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Hmmmm..... it's clear that the gap between camera lens and plastic rectangular bump should be filled to prevent intrusion of dust,,,,,
For all new Curtana users
Just apply a macro(small) drop of glue and rub it along sides of lens and let it dry for few min. it may make a seal to prevent dust from going inside ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, just a small drop , better use a transparent glue
For those users having dust inside camera lens
Use a strong jet of air , don't use HOT air it may damage internals (sometimes jet nozzle is available with vaccum pump) and blow it in all the 4 sides of rectangular lens this may help. Else go to Authorised Mi service center
This is a poll for CURTANA u may participate ?
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Smashed my camera glass got my phone from china not even for sale here. Hopefully u can source the glass
CFKod said:
Smashed my camera glass got my phone from china not even for sale here. Hopefully u can source the glass
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Now with broken nothing can be done
teardown your phone and find a Curtana glass protector (Amazon, Flipkart, Alibaba) and fix it in place for original camera lens( might be a hard process)
Or
Else go to Authorised Mi service center ?
Is there any photo for the guide?
Hiparci said:
Is there any photo for the guide?
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everyone concerned should have a look at this thread. apparently there is a gap between top-glass and the plastic camera hump with the worst gap in top right corner (main camera corner) and a smaller gap in bottom left corner supposedly letting dust through.
i took some macro shots of the four corners of mine.
both images are of the SAME worst top-right hand corner gap of my phone in slightly different angles . one seemingly has a gap other doesnt. visually its very tricky to find the gap, i would advise trying slotting the gap with a thin paper to find one if there is. i tried and could'nt. maybe it is fixed in the new ones, only time would tell.
the only proper solution i can think of is wicking some glue into the gaps with a piece of paper
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My Ray is 4-5 months old, and 1-2 months ago I noticed that glass on the camera is more and more peeling off...I have silicon case since day one, so it is not from scratches...maybe from removing smudges and dust here and there before thaking photo...I use my T-shirt on me (cotton, soft) and dont press hard...
It seems that this peel off and scratches doesnt affect photo quality as I dont see artefacts on photos - but, when whatching lens (glass) it can bee clearly seen as there is damaged somekind of protective film...
Does someone have same problems? Does this influence photo quality? It could bend light in different way...
Do you mean the protective piece of plastic on the center case covering the lens ?
Yeah, same prob here. The lens coating...but i think that's just protector against uv radiation from sunlight. Not sure though....
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Yeah picture quality has started to suck because of that need finda way to overcome it
I think it is some kind of filter because it is visible when tilting phone.
I dont know could i send it on repair? Is it covered with warranty?
Way to overcome this could be screen protector! Liquid fills that 'scratches' so light is bend same way..atleast that works with scratched screen!
Would lens screen protector ruin photos? Is someone using it?
Second way to overcome is peel that coating completly..only how? With what?
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mlesic said:
I think it is some kind of filter because it is visible when tilting phone.
I dont know could i send it on repair? Is it covered with warranty?
Way to overcome this could be screen protector! Liquid fills that 'scratches' so light is bend same way..atleast that works with scratched screen!
Would lens screen protector ruin photos? Is someone using it?
Second way to overcome is peel that coating completly..only how? With what?
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we are talking abt this part r8?
Yes. What else? That glass over a lens.
I must find another camera to take photo of that 'scratches'!
Well i was having the same blue looking coating on my MINI's camera glass but after 2-3 months it started peeling off so i totally removed it and i dont find decrease in picture quality also i dont think its a scratch protector as that thing itself get peeled off than how come it will protect you camera glass?
How did you remove it?
I saw that people say about Displex - that is scratch removal paste (not for touch screens). I will try it - must go find it to buy. I used it years ago for my phone screen...it was great...It polish edges of big scratches and litle scratches so scratches are not visible any more - even big ones. It polis rough edges so light dont get bend differently and everything is ok. So I belive displex could remove that coating and polish that glass over lens!
Alternative would be to change that glass with plastic or something like that (maybe another phones glass)... But for now, I think that displex would be best thing to try. It is 5-10$ and can last long...
Is it safe to remove it and use ?
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Try tooth paste! Polish, and leave 5min. Try few times!
So the problem is, that the body design of the hox+ (like older HTCs phones), has one major issue: When you put it on a flat surface i. e. table face up, it lays on two points: The first is somewhere down besides the loudspeaker, which is ok, but the second is the camera ring and/ or the camera glas (?) cover. I know there is already a thread regarding the material(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128442&highlight=camera+cover) , of which the cover is made of, but nobody was really sure about that. Because of this issue, i had to send in my device some weeks ago, because the scratches on the cover influenced the picture quality heavily ( bloom-effect ; there are some threads too) . In the end the phone is still getting repaired (status: "waiting for parts".:crying and im thinking about how to solve the problem for the future. I´m no smartphone- rapist, just the opposite thing and it was bought on 10th January, so i was really wondering: why the hell are so many and so fast scratches on the camera glas cover? Would it be meaningful to cut a display glas foil to the size of the camera objective?? In the matrial-thread, somebody was talking about a special "anti glare coating" so maybe you could polish the lense lets say every 4th month with a appropriate polish spray ??? I have always used a bumper to protect the phone, but nevertheless the scratches came! So what to do? And of course this is not a single problem, i suppose, so this increases the importance of this thread/question....
For the camera have you try to take off your bumper and shoot...cause some bumper is bad and it affects the camera when you shoot while using the lights..
The glass if you scared to scratch it...just use the scren protector and cut round until it fits...
The scratch camera glass I think is not affect picture quality accept if you colour the glass with ink..hahha joking
Hope it helps
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No I think you didn´t understand the problem of the camera bloom effect: The special anti glare coating is damaged and this causes photos with a lot of bloom, unclearness and bad colours, because the chip is not able to choose the right parameters for "white balances" and other different adjustments, that usually are set automatically. The bumper should only show, how I care about my phone....
I was looking at a faint scratch on the glass cover and I noticed that it moved. As in the whole thing, within the outer ring, as if it was mounted on some sort of suspension, Is it possible the glass lens protrudes slightly from the outer ring, making it a point of contact as opposed to the outer plastic ring? Just a thought.
Have you take out the bumper or back cover what ever you call it...and try to shoot...is your phone custom rom or
Stock...
My first bumper having issue...the right one is the whole have to be big
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Hi, it´s repaired now, and im going to cut a suitable cover. Of course I have taken of the bumper off?? are you really talking about a kind of this http://www.amazon.de/Exklusiv-Cad-S...8O/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1362481786&sr=8-26 ???
I've loved my Poetic case, it's a real winner in my opinion, but last night, sitting on the couch, I felt a rough corner and on examination found the plastic had cracked and fell off in my hand.
I've never dropped my tablet. The piece that broke off was near the speaker and it's relatively thin there.
I sent in for an RMA, hopefully they will just replace it.
Has anyone else had this issue?
Only issue I have with the case is it would be nice if it had a 2nd hole for the camera on the front so when the front is folded all the way back you could still take pics.
mknewman said:
Only issue I have with the case is it would be nice if it had a 2nd hole for the camera on the front so when the front is folded all the way back you could still take pics.
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You can do this hole itself. It's not so hard.
Find some pen or ballpoint which one have metallic body and this body is with needed diameter. unscrew the body to pieces. Now take off the case, place on some cutting board. Measure the correct place where the hole must be and measure again three times. Take the small hammer and with this metal body make the hole, hammering once or twice. It cuts good hole.
Actually i'm not familiar with this case material but for some materials you can heat the pen metal body.
And yes, you can use any small metal pipe which size is for you needs.
Hello,
im not using my X with any case and recently saw that my back lens is really, reallly scratched. I cant understand why Sony did not use glass to protect it. Any idea how to remove this scratches?
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58db60c5c607c/IMG_20170329_092200739.jpg?
It's not glass? It feels like it.. weird, I thought all of the X series were with glass lens. I have no scrathes nor in the lens nor on the screen (actually in the screen there are 2 super small invisible scratches you can view only with a specific angle under bright sun, other than that, it's like new. Been using a flip case and now ordered screen protectors and a good TPU. You got your lens TERRIBLY f*cked up, how did you manage to do that? and the metal is scratched too, right? I suggest you get a TPU now to prevent more damage. I don't think you can fix it, and I don't recommend the toothpaste DIY "trick" since chances are it won't do anything and paste will get stuck in the gap between the lens. I do suggest you to find lens in ebay and replace them yourself, or if you haven't rooted and still have warranty ask what they can do about it in a local store. Can't be very expensive...
What did you do in the end? I had this phone for little over a week, and the camera is full of scratches.
Did you contact Sony? Did they repaired the phone? Or have you removed the scratched layer with alcohol/toothpaste?
I've owned many, many phones over the years, some with a plastic lens. This is the first time I've seen my camera so scratched.
Just by looking at the pic, I'm pretty sure the protective plastic camera has not been removed yet..
This is old people, and I highly doubt OP will reply. Whoever says their lens are getting scratches either didn't remove the plastic cover or you are doing something VERY wrong. Phones aren't meant to be placed on rocks or something. Other than that, I have not idea how you scratch it and it looks like glass to me. The X series phones after the z5 were all upgraded with glass lens.
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This is old people, and I highly doubt OP will reply. Whoever says their lens are getting scratches either didn't remove the plastic cover or you are doing something VERY wrong. Phones aren't meant to be placed on rocks or something. Other than that, I have not idea how you scratch it and it looks like glass to me. The X series phones after the z5 were all upgraded with glass lens.
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There's no protective plastic on my lens, and it scratches with jeans denim, I've tested it. I own phones with actual plastic lenses, and they do not scratched by fabric. My guess is there are some units where the antiglare layer on the camera lens have some kind of defect.
Before the "you're using it wrong" argument: no. My phone is in pristine condition, it does not have any marks of use anywhere but the camera. It was never near any rough surface. My 2.5 years old Moto E2 plastic camera lens is in a much better condition.
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There's no protective plastic on my lens, and it scratches with jeans denim, I've tested it. I own phones with actual plastic lenses, and they do not scratched by fabric. My guess is there are some units where the antiglare layer on the camera lens have some kind of defect.
Before the "you're using it wrong" argument: no. My phone is in pristine condition, it does not have any marks of use anywhere but the camera. It was never near any rough surface. My 2.5 years old Moto E2 plastic camera lens is in a much better condition.
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Interesting. Mine is great though.
m4tt94 said:
What did you do in the end? I had this phone for little over a week, and the camera is full of scratches.
Did you contact Sony? Did they repaired the phone? Or have you removed the scratched layer with alcohol/toothpaste?
I've owned many, many phones over the years, some with a plastic lens. This is the first time I've seen my camera so scratched.
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Hi, I just bought original replacement back panel on aliexpress and replaced it - 3min of work. Tryed with toothpaste before but it didnt help at all.
Item is not available anymore but it was from this seller for 9usd and it was real orginal part:
http://s.aliexpress.com/JRF77VZ7
Does it have a protective plastic on the cam? I didnt notice any.
gemtin92 said:
Hi, I just bought original replacement back panel on aliexpress and replaced it - 3min of work. Tryed with toothpaste before but it didnt help at all.
Item is not available anymore but it was from this seller for 9usd and it was real orginal part:
http://s.aliexpress.com/JRF77VZ7
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Did you heat the back panel with a heat gun?
izyer said:
Does it have a protective plastic on the cam? I didnt notice any.
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Yes, it was blue so very visable.
FoxTheLegend said:
Did you heat the back panel with a heat gun?
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No, u used my gf hair dryer [emoji14]
So far I dont have any scratches on lens for months, so sth was ****ed up with previous back panel.
gemtin92 said:
Yes, it was blue so very visable.
No, u used my gf hair dryer [emoji14]
So far I dont have any scratches on lens for months, so sth was ****ed up with previous back panel.
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Very weird stuff going on with this phone, good job on fixing it
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
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djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
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From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
deadsea said:
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
stubey said:
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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