I have a P40 Pro Plus on the way and I want to know if I should do the app search to get the apps from my old phone first or do the GMS sideload first?
Also I'm reading the sideload won't work anymore, so what's the procedure around it?
If you use phone clone it will transfer all your old phone data to new phone all google apps that would work on your phone will be transferred automatically.
I am using chrome maps calculator snapseed on my P40 Pro Plus without Signing In Ofcourse
Use F Droid Or Aurora Store those Work Perfectly well.
And after that if any Apps do not get transferred you can search for them in App Gallery Or Petal Search Even App Finder Is A Existing Choice already Installed in Phone.
Hope this Helps.
My Regards
Fujimens said:
I have a P40 Pro Plus on the way and I want to know if I should do the app search to get the apps from my old phone first or do the GMS sideload first?
Also I'm reading the sideload won't work anymore, so what's the procedure around it?
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I had before gmail, maps, gboard and maybe a few more Gapps working without GMS, and all worked really well, but I couldn't log in. Despite that, everything was working just fine.
Then I made a firmware downgrade to install GMS. But today I would not recommend it, because I think it's too much work for a small advantage... BUT, if you bought any app from PlayStore, you will need to install GMS to make them work properly.
I installed GMS just because I bought 2 games and 4 language apps.
I'm thinking to start the phone, not update the OS, do the GMS sideload install, do the app search, and then go from there with the OS update.
Fujimens said:
I'm thinking to start the phone, not update the OS, do the GMS sideload install, do the app search, and then go from there with the OS update.
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I think it is a good approach.
Fujimens said:
I have a P40 Pro Plus on the way and I want to know if I should do the app search to get the apps from my old phone first or do the GMS sideload first?
Also I'm reading the sideload won't work anymore, so what's the procedure around it?
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Side loading works even with the latest firmware. There is a date hack that needs to be done. Below is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utQ9q7pCGEM
Note that this is in spanish
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Side loading works even with the latest firmware. There is a date hack that needs to be done. Below is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utQ9q7pCGEM
Note that this is in spanish
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I think this is generating lots of confusion. Redskull has this in his latest video, if I'm not mistaken and people are not getting the "hack" portion of it. It's just turning the date update off and putting 2018 or 2019 in and done. Or is there more to it?
Also people are not listing the firmware they have on the phone that allows or rejects the installation. This is what Maik Reifschneider criticized in German in his video. I agree fully with Maik's complaint, especially considering how much investment of time is involved in downgrading and potential risk.
I mentioned the following to Redskull and he agreed it was a good path:
Check firmware at first start, if later than .136, then proceed to Maik Reifschneider's FW downgrade procedure. Then go through Redskull's installation of Google, then search for the apps via the play store and Huawei's app clone, update the FW.
Can you please confirm that this "hack" you speak of is simply turning auto date and time off and inserting 2018 or 2019 in there? We have to differentiate "hack" vs. changing a setting or a "trick" since we're already in fairly involved procedures. I surfed through this guy's video and he races through what looks like that with the phone off screen at a point.
Fujimens said:
I think this is generating lots of confusion. Redskull has this in his latest video, if I'm not mistaken and people are not getting the "hack" portion of it. It's just turning the date update off and putting 2018 or 2019 in and done. Or is there more to it?
Also people are not listing the firmware they have on the phone that allows or rejects the installation. This is what Maik Reifschneider criticized in German in his video. I agree fully with Maik's complaint, especially considering how much investment of time is involved in downgrading and potential risk.
I mentioned the following to Redskull and he agreed it was a good path:
Check firmware at first start, if later than .136, then proceed to Maik Reifschneider's FW downgrade procedure. Then go through Redskull's installation of Google, then search for the apps via the play store and Huawei's app clone, update the FW.
Can you please confirm that this "hack" you speak of is simply turning auto date and time off and inserting 2018 or 2019 in there? We have to differentiate "hack" vs. changing a setting or a "trick" since we're already in fairly involved procedures. I surfed through this guy's video and he races through what looks like that with the phone off screen at a point.
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Yes, the hack I was referring to is turning the date and time off, manually setting it and then set to auto again.
I have tried multiple times without the date hack, and it failed to sign in to the google account. But doing the date thing, allowed me to successfully sign-in.
BTW I have tested it on the 10.1.0.155 firmware, and it was successful.
In my opinion, downgrading to install google services is a little risky considering we have a very limited support for this device by developers.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, the hack I was referring to is turning the date and time off, manually setting it and then set to auto again.
I have tried multiple times without the date hack, and it failed to sign in to the google account. But doing the date thing, allowed me to successfully sign-in.
BTW I have tested it on the 10.1.0.155 firmware, and it was successful.
In my opinion, downgrading to install google services is a little risky considering we have a very limited support for this device available by developers.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for clearing this up. Will likely avoid the downgrade and I'll inform Redskull of the findings (and so should you) because he's also unde the impression a downgrade could be necessary for unknown reasons specific to some phones, not necessarily the FW.
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I rooted my S9+ SM-G965F/DS (Pie version) with TWRP recovery.
I was wondering if there was an easy way to change my android ID(that could possibly be repeatable in the future) so I can bypass a ban on Uber that stops me from using it. Or if anyone knows of a simpler way to bypass that ban it would be helpful as well. I already created a new account for Uber on a new device and can use it normally, I just want to be able to use it on this one instead (S9+) and I heard changing android ID would do the trick.
Thank you in advance.
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I rooted my S9+ SM-G965F/DS (Pie version) with TWRP recovery.
I was wondering if there was an easy way to change my android ID(that could possibly be repeatable in the future) so I can bypass a ban on Uber that stops me from using it. Or if anyone knows of a simpler way to bypass that ban it would be helpful as well. I already created a new account for Uber on a new device and can use it normally, I just want to be able to use it on this one instead (S9+) and I heard changing android ID would do the trick.
Thank you in advance.
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You might try Magisk hiding the app, but I have had S9+ for some time and rooted thru all of it and never had an issue with Uber - use it all the time.
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gaww said:
You might try Magisk hiding the app, but I have had S9+ for some time and rooted thru all of it and never had an issue with Uber - use it all the time.
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My issue isn't with the root, I rooted specifically to fix the issue but I still don't know how I just know it's the first step. I'm just trying to bypass a device ban by changing android ID which Idk how to do.
How to change Android ID ? ^^
try running uber app inside secure folder. its a container with, in theory, a different ID.
Also, did you try to factory reset?
create a different gmail account? many apps let you choose which gmail account you want to associate with it if you have more than one on your phone. Not sure if itll work, but worth a try. Also not sure is this topic is kosher as its specifically trying to circumvent a ban that was placed on the user, probably for a reason or 2
Forget about Uber, how do I change android ID for my device ? I cant use secure folder as its not available once you root your device. Also I need to repeat the process in the future so even in that case secure folder would only allow one different ID.
Pamperz said:
Forget about Uber, how do I change android ID for my device ? I cant use secure folder as its not available once you root your device. Also I need to repeat the process in the future so even in that case secure folder would only allow one different ID.
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not related to your post, but why is your device id banned?
Hangoverr said:
not related to your post, but why is your device id banned?
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To be clear this isn't related to the question/thread in any way, but since you asked.
I'm not sure, I bought some vouchers(Promotions to be exact) online for very very cheap and was using them for my trips. One time I decided to give them to an Uber driver who I thought was incredibly nice and thought he'd needed them more than me. So I gave him around 40$ of trips divided into multiple trips so I had to re-order him after each trip consecutively in a short period of time. I'm not sure if that's what did It but it sure stopped my ability to pay Cash on that account, I created a support ticket and after reviewing the ticket they just banned the account for "Fraudulent Activity". I believe they thought I was the driver somehow and was ordering them for my self, I know this because the driver contacted me a few days later (we exchanged numbers) and told me he received a warning(nothing more) for suspicious activity. And If that's not what did it then maybe it was because I was sharing my account with my sister and she would regularly cancel orders or not end up finding the driver (Poor gps routes in my country).
Did you try VPN or modifying build. prop?
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Did you try VPN or modifying build. prop?
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VPN doesn't do it as it's not related.
Any free apps you can recommend that change build prop?
If you tried VPN then ok.
You can find them on Google Play Store or edit it yourself by finding its location which I do not know by heart.
I recently received a new matepad in the UK and have been struggling for days to get anything up and running so far.
Successful so far is YouTube Vance, it's the only Google related app that I've managed to get working.
Any third party app I've tried is either outdated or outright doesn't run on the device. Examples are Lzplay chatapp and insalling everything manually.
Nothing has worked so far. I was also wondering why there isn't a development channel for this device as it has such big potential but just suffering from the lack of a play store.
Any advice / help would be greatly appreciated. I've tried all the usual stuff but it's hard to find anything online about this tablet.
Bumping for visibility
@gog3219
Youtube Vanced isn't a Google authored app.
Due to an order of the madman in the White House, Huawei since almost a year is no longer allowed to pre-install Google Play Store and/or GMS on their devices.
You have to install Google Play Store ( consists of 4 APKs ) and/or GMS manually by yourself.
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@gog3219
Youtube Vanced isn't a Google authored app.
Due to an order of the madman in the White House, Huawei since almost a year is no longer allowed to pre-install Google Play Store and/or GMS on their devices.
You have to install Google Play Store ( consists of 4 APKs ) and/or GMS manually by yourself.
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Hi thank you for your reply. I'm aware of the reasoning behind the idiotic decision, I was just wondering for my device specifically speaking as its so new and has a lot of problems with the preexisting methods. I've found no way to load GSM onto the device as of yet and made this thread to explore if there were any potential way whatsoever. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
@gog3219
Look here: https://huaweiadvices.com/download-google-installer-3-0-apk-for-android/
Hi,
Just joined a new company that requires Company Portal to access Outlook email and other apps on my phone.
Evidently even if you manage to hide root from Company Portal, a major requirement is having an encrypted device with Company Portal.
In order to get rooted 2 years ago, I ran Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt during the TWRP setup process so my rooted V30 is not encrypted.
Is there any way to restore encryption now without losing my current stock rom settings and data and maintain root?
I see in LG Settings there is an option to Encrypt Phone and SD Card. Will this suffice so I can maintain root?
If not, is there a way to root and install a TWRP LG Pie Rom zip without disabling encryption via Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt?
Or is it impossible to root and use Company Portal with the LG V30?
Thanks in advance!
Drew
drewcu said:
Hi,
Just joined a new company that requires Company Portal to access Outlook email and other apps on my phone.
Evidently even if you manage to hide root from Company Portal, a major requirement is having an encrypted device with Company Portal.
In order to get rooted 2 years ago, I ran Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt during the TWRP setup process so my rooted V30 is not encrypted.
Is there any way to restore encryption now without losing my current stock rom settings and data and maintain root?
I see in LG Settings there is an option to Encrypt Phone and SD Card. Will this suffice so I can maintain root?
If not, is there a way to root and install a TWRP LG Pie Rom zip without disabling encryption via Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt?
Or is it impossible to root and use Company Portal with the LG V30?
Thanks in advance!
Drew
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My only solution to this problem was to always use webaccess for my Office365 account. They required the portal to use Outlook, and part of that requirement allowed them to wipe my phone whenever they wanted. It's my phone, so I guess I won't use their email on my phone.
Sounds like your company has yet another behind-the-times IT department (like mine). Although mine is also exceptionally incompetent. They left the IMAP server open and available to anyone, so I simply used that with my GMail account instead. It did require me to allow them admin access to the phone to wipe the device (though I think they can only wipe the email) but it worked. They finally got modern and are using 365 so now it doesn't need these extra things. You might want to see if you can wait until they wake up and/or see if there is a server you can connect to. I found mine because, due to their incompetence, they let iPhones use the native mail app via the IMAP server, but forced Android to use some garbage 3rd party software for it instead of GMail. In both cases, the IMAP server was easily seen and setup.
I also have a company phone, so I don't really care if they can wipe it. Again, if I was going to take data from them, I'd do it before I announced I was leaving like any reasonably-intelligent person... so wiping accomplishes nothing. But, again, these IT departments are really dumb and incompetent...
To answer your initial question, I don't know if there's a way to re-enable encryption... but I also don't think that this is something that they can detect anyway. I'm thinking it may be something else they're tripping over. You may consider installing Magisk, and then using it's HIDE feature to see if you can hide the typical "signs" of rooting/etc. It may be good enough to get you working. If it doesn't you simply remove Magisk again (or just stop using it)?
Thanks @ldeveraux and @schwinn8 for the replies!
I know we use Office 365 but I'll have to ask about web access to see if that is possible. It's my phone and supposedly it's "not required" that I install Company Portal/Outlook/Teams on my phone, but I would be the only one at the firm not doing that and I am a new hire so... kind of a bad look so soon. I am not really comfortable with them being able to wipe my phone either, but that wasn't mentioned to me... yet.
Also would have to ask about IMAP, but I doubt it. No company phones either which is fine.
Pretty sure it is the encryption (or lack thereof in my case) that is the issue. I already use Magisk v22 and Hide all signs of Company Portal and pass Safetynet. On another XDA thread where Company Portal is discussed, I followed the suggested steps to no avail:
1) Install Company Portal V5.0.5067.0
2) Magisk Hide ALL of Company Portal checkboxes
3) Reboot
4) Still pass SafetyNet
5) Launch Company Portal
While the app doesn't specify the encryption as to why it cannot get me to the login screen, that's the only conclusion I can reach at the moment.
Did either of you try or look into encryption built into the LG/Android Settings menu? I don't want to do that unless I know of someone with success with it, but am curious if that would allow root via Magisk Hide, encryption, and Company Portal.
Thanks!
Drew
No I stopped carrying when they wanted permission to wipe. If the company was paying for the phone, that's one thing. If I'm using my personal phone for company use, that doesn't fly.
I realize this doesn't answer your question at all, but it's food for thought!
ldeveraux said:
No I stopped carrying when they wanted permission to wipe. If the company was paying for the phone, that's one thing. If I'm using my personal phone for company use, that doesn't fly.
I realize this doesn't answer your question at all, but it's food for thought!
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Carrying? Or did you mean caring?
drewcu said:
Carrying? Or did you mean caring?
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Caring. I don't own a firearm.
ldeveraux said:
Caring. I don't own a firearm.
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Lol got it. Just making sure I understood what you meant.
Assume you didn't look into the LG rom based encryption then?
drewcu said:
Lol got it. Just making sure I understood what you meant.
Assume you didn't look into the LG rom based encryption then?
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No at that point I gave up
Hopefully you'll get some help here, because I'd still like to be able to actually use Outlook on my phone!
So, a quick search says that there are modules available and other things that need to be tried. One further thing is to hide root from various Google modules. I remember hearing that for some other apps... that you had to hide root from Google services. I also remember hearing that, in some cases, you have to clear data for apps after the hide, because they apparently save the rooted-status in their own data.
Basically, I doubt encryption is the issue... root is usually the problem and can be a bit tricky to hide properly. You just have to try things. I have never seen any app fail to work because encryption is not available... it's always a root-detection issue.
As for the IMAP thing, the point there is to use the settings you find elsewhere to access email. You're not asking IT for permission or info... you just need to find it. Most Microsoft-based IT places I have worked with have zero clue that this is open and offered, so once you find it it's just a matter of plugging in the right info.
As for the web-interface, again, my company (for example) doesn't tell us that we can use the Outlook app, but it works with no tricks whatsoever. Plug in your company account info and it figures out how to connect.
FYI, the module I mentioned above is referenced here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ne-company-portal-hider-intune-hider.3780451/ - no idea if this is necessary or even the latest version...
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So, a quick search says that there are modules available and other things that need to be tried. One further thing is to hide root from various Google modules. I remember hearing that for some other apps... that you had to hide root from Google services. I also remember hearing that, in some cases, you have to clear data for apps after the hide, because they apparently save the rooted-status in their own data.
Basically, I doubt encryption is the issue... root is usually the problem and can be a bit tricky to hide properly. You just have to try things. I have never seen any app fail to work because encryption is not available... it's always a root-detection issue.
As for the IMAP thing, the point there is to use the settings you find elsewhere to access email. You're not asking IT for permission or info... you just need to find it. Most Microsoft-based IT places I have worked with have zero clue that this is open and offered, so once you find it it's just a matter of plugging in the right info.
As for the web-interface, again, my company (for example) doesn't tell us that we can use the Outlook app, but it works with no tricks whatsoever. Plug in your company account info and it figures out how to connect.
FYI, the module I mentioned above is referenced here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ne-company-portal-hider-intune-hider.3780451/ - no idea if this is necessary or even the latest version...
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Thanks for the suggestions! I actually have tried different modules without success both for EdXposed (Security Bypass for Company Portal with CP version 5.0.3013.0 and Bypass Exchange Policies). The closest I got was with CP 5.0.3013.0 where I could enter my credentials but then wasn't able to agree to the Terms and Conditions which is a prerequisite and got denied. The module you linked is no longer needed if using Magisk v22 with Magisk Hide according to people in the thread.
Have also tried the Outlook app, Outlook web access, Gmail, IMAP, POP3 -- all smartly locked down tight for compliance reasons by our IT. Just says to enroll with Company Portal after entering credentials.
Pretty sure the Magisk Hide route would work with V5.0.5067.0 if my device was encrypted. Company Portal checks whether your device is encrypted supposedly, so either you have to actually be encrypted or find a way around that. I am willing to be encrypted if I can still be rooted...
Not sure where to go from here to get it working without an encrypted device... but thanks for the post.
As I recall, Xposed is not really working or functional these days. The module I linked to is a Magisk module. Did you follow those directions, because it sounds like you didn't.
It sounds like you don't want to believe me... that's fine. I believe the answers are out there and it's just a root issue. You probably just need to do more reading and searching. I'm going to give up since you don't seem to want to hear it from me, so good luck...
If you find a solution, do let people know on this thread so the matter can be closed/completed.
I remember the other reason I stopped trying to use the Company Portal. They need permission to wipe my phone, which obviously I'm not cool with. Whenever I disable the Company Portal, mail stops working. That's reason enough!
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As I recall, Xposed is not really working or functional these days. The module I linked to is a Magisk module. Did you follow those directions, because it sounds like you didn't.
It sounds like you don't want to believe me... that's fine. I believe the answers are out there and it's just a root issue. You probably just need to do more reading and searching. I'm going to give up since you don't seem to want to hear it from me, so good luck...
If you find a solution, do let people know on this thread so the matter can be closed/completed.
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Yes I am aware that the module you linked is for Magisk. If you go to the OP, all the text is struck through because the module is no longer necessary as I stated previously.
[MODULE] Microsoft Intune Company Portal Hider (Intune Hider)
Introduction: Simple Module To Hide The Root From Microsoft Intune Company Portal. - After The Installation & 1st Reboot, It Hides The Rooting & Disables Itself [P.S. Disabling Itself For Some Versions] - Enabling This Module From Magisk Manager...
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It is easy to be confused. The "module" from the OP was needed before but is now obsolete since Magisk has gained the necessary functionality alone without the "module". There is no "module" in Magisk. Now go back and read the past posts over 2 months. First you hide Magisk so it passes safety net. Then you go into superuser MagiskHide, go into the app (eg Portal) and check everything. You need to understand that they updated Portal so you need to downgrade it so Portal will work again. You need to understand to use latest Magisk and Magisk changed. Not surprising you are confused. Now perhaps you have figured out the basics and the details will make sense.
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So I followed the steps on page 23 of that thread using Intune Company Portal V5.0.5067.0:
[MODULE] Microsoft Intune Company Portal Hider (Intune Hider)
Introduction: Simple Module To Hide The Root From Microsoft Intune Company Portal. - After The Installation & 1st Reboot, It Hides The Rooting & Disables Itself [P.S. Disabling Itself For Some Versions] - Enabling This Module From Magisk Manager...
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IlyaKol said:
Good call on the GitHub ticket.
For anyone reading, this is the process I followed:
1) Uninstall the existing Intune Company Portal
2) Reboot
3) Install the APK listed above or from another source (I used APK Pure). DO NOT LAUNCH INTUNE!
4) Before launching, go into Magisk and make sure to hide ALL of it as well as all of Outlook, OneNote, OneDrive, Teams, etc. (whatever uses your company credentails)
5) Launch InTune and set it up.
6) Disable auto-updates of the app as he stated in Google Play Store.
7) Profit.
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The result is I am still stuck on the "Open the Intune App" screen... No other error messages related to rooting, but cannot even get to log in or download Outlook or Teams. Have tried downloading the Intune App from the Play Store and that tells me to open Company Portal... so going in circles... I'm told I need to only use Company Portal from our IT firm.
I went through the same Magisk module thread and found others talking about not having encryption, and they are in the same position as I am -- following the steps or using the Magisk module (before Magisk v22) and still not getting CP to work.
Thus I am 99.9% sure I cannot use CP because I don't have encryption. You don't have to believe me, but I have tried everything I can think of save for using LG's Encrypt Phone feature... Would do it if I got confirmation I could stay rooted, not lose my data/settings, and then use Company Portal.
But yes, I absolutely would post the solution here if I find it!
Thanks anyway.
I'm rooted and have long had corporate email (two different companies) on a paid app called "Nine". First company was Fortune 100 global media company, and 2nd (past 3 years) is smaller but still has aggressive IT policies. Neither paid for my phone. I specifically remember with the first having to agree they could wipe the phone if it was lost -- but I think due to me being rooted they wouldn't be able to.
Nine - Email & Calendar - Apps on Google Play
Nine is a full-fledged and intuitive email app which supports Exchange and IMAP
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ChazzMatt said:
I'm rooted and have long had corporate email (two different companies) on a paid app called "Nine". First company was Fortune 100 global media company, and 2nd (past 3 years) is smaller but still has aggressive IT policies. Neither paid for my phone. I specifically remember with the first having to agree they could wipe the phone if it was lost -- but I think due to me being rooted they wouldn't be able to.
Nine - Email & Calendar - Apps on Google Play
Nine is a full-fledged and intuitive email app which supports Exchange and IMAP
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Just tried Nine and it also tells me after entering my credentials that I need to use Company Portal (just like Outlook and Web Access).
Do these two companies you worked for use Intune Company Portal to manage policies?
drewcu said:
Just tried Nine and it also tells me after entering my credentials that I need to use Company Portal (just like Outlook and Web Access).
Do these two companies you worked for use Intune Company Portal to manage policies?
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I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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For Nine I only needed the email server name.
For the previous Fortune 100 company I worked for, it was almost 4 years ago so I don't remember all the details but I remember granting them the privilege but I don't remember adding them as an admin.
ldeveraux said:
I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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Company Portal didn't used to work for you, correct? What changed? Can you please list your steps this time?
I think to check encryption you use Termux and enter 'getprop ro.crypto.state' -- mine says unencrypted.
One other question is what version of Twrp are you using? I'm using one from 2 years ago -- 3.2.3 and never wanted to bother with the Pie one 3.3 or whatever is latest... Might have something to do with it...
I decided to root ky Pixel 6 and found out that i couldn't get around the security from germans banking apps.
simple soloution. have magisk/zygisk installed and set the root mode to "user" in the settings of magisk manager.
then go to your settings and setup a second user (wont have root) install your banking apps and enjoy the ability to use them with an rooted device
edit: this method was tested for Sparkasse app's
• S-Push Tan
• Mobiles Bezahlen
IndubidablyStoned said:
I decided to root ky Pixel 6 and found out that i couldn't get around the security from germans banking apps.
simple soloution. have magisk/zygisk installed and set the root mode to "user" in the settings of magisk manager.
then go to your settings and setup a second user (wont have root) install your banking apps and enjoy the ability to use them with an rooted device
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I'm not being critical of your choices but why would anyone chance having a banking institution or any financial app including
GPay on a rooted device? Isn't there a much greater chance of being compromised by an app or inadvertent web link? And if the banking institution sees that a bogus user was created what are the chances of recovering funds obtained through fraudulent activity? I understand why people want to root don't get me wrong, but money transfers and transactions on that device seem a little reckless to me. But I could be wrong, just curious of the thinking here.
i Understand, but if you want to have an custom DAC like Viper4Android you kinda need root. my intention isnt to do fraudulent activity, as i mentioned in the Post you dont have Root access on that second user
IndubidablyStoned said:
i Understand, but if you want to have an custom DAC like Viper4Android you kinda need root. my intention isnt to do fraudulent activity, as i mentioned in the Post you dont have Root access on that second user
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You misunderstood my concern wrt banking activity. I didn't suggest that you were doing anything fraudulent but if you were the victim of fraudulent activity would the bank still cover you with a bogus account you created? I don't know if what you did was entirely proper or not but that was not the issue I thought you might be concerned about.
As I said, I completely understand your desire to root be it V4A or DAC or even ad blocking. I just wonder the benefit vs the exposure if you are using banking apps. Without financial transactions occurring on the phone I doubt there is much to worry about other than what we are all concerned about root or not.
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I'm not being critical of your choices but why would anyone chance having a banking institution or any financial app including
GPay on a rooted device? Isn't there a much greater chance of being compromised by an app or inadvertent web link? And if the banking institution sees that a bogus user was created what are the chances of recovering funds obtained through fraudulent activity? I understand why people want to root don't get me wrong, but money transfers and transactions on that device seem a little reckless to me. But I could be wrong, just curious of the thinking here.
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Considering DirtyPipe exists and has not been patched yet (plus how long it already took to even acknowledge the problem in the first place), rooting is the least of our worries when it comes to monetary transactions/banking and android.
Bear in mind that DirtyPipe is only one elevation exploit that we've heard about. And for every disclosed vulnerability there are dozens of others that nobody's aware of. The market for rooted android users is very small compared to the overall android phone-user market. Creating exploits specifically targeting rooted phones would be a waste of time and effort compared to working on privilege escalation on non-rooted devices; from a hacker's perspective you want to hit the largest volume of targets in cases like these.
I've been rooting my phones for 10 years now, and my usage of banking/fintech apps on my devices has increased consistently. Applying common sense opsec/infosec practices can negate a large percentage of the perceived risk that root access exposes you to.
On the other hand, if someone wants to target you specifically, as an individual, you're screwed, root or no root, unless you're aware of the risks that come with technology and the pitfalls of android (iOS can be perceived as more secure but when it comes to individual targeting/attacks, there are expensive tools made by some of the world's top intelligence organizations that can wreck havoc on iOS as well)
TL;DR you're never truly safe, root or no root.
Unfortunately that doesn't worked for me
I tested the following apps:
SecureGo
VR SecureGo
Mobiles bezahlen
Every App doesn't launch. Sparkasse is quitting instantly and SecureGo Apps are stuck with their logo.
On the rootet user I get the Browser-warning (of SecureGo) that my device doesn't meet the security requierements. So far so good, but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
i dont know currently, i dont have root anymore since i had to update to the April Update. i'll update if there is something that can be done
Maybe you could confirm that these Apps launch on April build without root? That could help to research the problem a bit. Thanks!
hanni2301 said:
...but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
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Maybe these apps are not supporting fully Android 12?
I have an app which, until recently, was freezing when the location was enabled. To be exact, when "Use precise location" was enabled. Only location access the app was not freezing, but couldn't get the coordinates.
Maye this is a similar situation here.
Cheers
Tom
hanni2301 said:
Unfortunately that doesn't worked for me
I tested the following apps:
SecureGo
VR SecureGo
Mobiles bezahlen
Every App doesn't launch. Sparkasse is quitting instantly and SecureGo Apps are stuck with their logo.
On the rootet user I get the Browser-warning (of SecureGo) that my device doesn't meet the security requierements. So far so good, but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
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I managed to get the VR Secure Go app working by doing the steps in the op plus using ice box and freezing magisk and the bank apps. I'm on April, too and I'm using radioactive kernel. Rooted stock kernel works as well on my device, but I had issues with the bank apps on some other kernels.
So to confirm, you need to freeze magisk on the rooted user and you're able to use the bank apps on the second (non rooted) user?
On which user you would freeze the bank apps? I doesn't have them installed on the rooted user.
Thanks in advance that you can definitely confirm its not the fault of April built.
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So to confirm, you need to freeze magisk on the rooted user and you're able to use the bank apps on the second (non rooted) user?
On which user you would freeze the bank apps? I doesn't have them installed on the rooted user.
Thanks in advance that you can definitely confirm its not the fault of April built.
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I only have one user (the rooted user). I've done the following steps:
1. Configure magisk: activate Zygisk and setup deny list for the banking apps
2. Hide magisk app
3. Freeze magisk and banking apps with Ice Box
ok, that is the normal way which is different to the approach the thread starter has chosen.
I use deny list plus hide my applist and works fine with Sparkasse, s-push and mobil bezahlen no need to freeze or use a second user profile
How do you do that, hide applist?
You can bypass it by
Download App Named Shelter from Play store.
The App will create work profile and you can bypass any bank or app you facing issue with it.
When completed create work profile you can clone Bank App and use if.
As Information, It works out of the Box with Magisk denylist,
You only need to Install Ice Box and hide Magisk Manager, even if it is using a random name, "Mobiles Bezahlen" would detect it.
Magisk + Ice Box is sufficient on latest Miui 13 as well!
Regards!
Not sure but I think island could help not sure though as I'm not rooted the app is made by greenify
Only as info, these 2 Apps, Postbank Finanzassistent and Postbank BestSign working by default on a rooted device.
I like Postbank
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Midea Air allows you to control your AC from wherever you are
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Would some of you Pixel 6 users mind installing and seeing if it crashes on you, please?
Because it's not 100% of users encountering the issue, they blame some Pixel users due to a "classnotfound" error within their application.
Since we've all seen people copy & paste code and other silly things they shouldn't do, which cause crashes, I asked them if they used a root checker:
Yes, and we also have our test team both in China and the U.S. using a couple of problematic models which are reported by users too. But nothing more is found and none of the trails show the problem. And according to the feedback situation, not all users using these phone models are having issues, so we assume it is related to a specific user environment.
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But they didn't expand on it beyond "yes", unfortunately.
Spoiler: my thoughts & minutia
Other than Play Store app updates and automatic Google-pushed Play/Services updates, all I've done in the past 10-14 days is update Lsposed. I've disabled and rebooted without it, and the issue remains. I've also used a stock boot.img and the app still crashes, which makes me think it's detecting an unlocked bootloader or some similar and unnecessary check(s), and moving forward with its checks which then fails due to Google no longer supporting whatever methods the app is using, and they don't know how to figure it out since it's probably copied & pasted code from many months ago and they're unwilling to suspect that old code is the cause, even though Google normally rolls out subtle security changes like this, very gradually.
Is it really just me and 5-8 other users in the entire world with this issue, or does it crash on some of you as well? I can't imagine it being such bad code that it's only rooted/unlocked bootloaders with the issue. It must be non-rooted and stock Pixel users with the issue as well, and those devices just haven't been pushed the Play Store/Services update yet.
I'd like to know if I'm just getting older and dumber or not, and if I'm truly the cause for the crash, haha. I'm open to being entirely to blame for this, but I don't want to wipe my phone and relock the bootloader for testing quite yet. Thanks for testing and voting in the poll!
Huh? If you've got a "class not found" it seems like it would be pretty easy to determine where the problem lies.
Is it some esoteric Kotlin thing or java.util.boring?
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Huh? If you've got a "class not found" it seems like it would be pretty easy to determine where the problem lies.
Is it some esoteric Kotlin thing or java.util.boring?
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Yeah, I figured something like that should be pretty simple, unless they have zero failures in their own testing. But...is there some new background auto-report for crashes on Android, which ties in to the email address, that I'm unaware of?
I never said anything to them other than email them my phone model, Android build, and posted a google app review (under the same name & email address) with no information other than it crashing. And they repllied, via email, with this:
Due to the uniqueness of this bug, no more code trace can be reported as you received only a line of error indicating "classnotfound". normally there will be at least a few lines more which helps with debugging.
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Well, there could easily be conditional code for almost anything.
If you can repeatedly bomb this, why don't you get a logcat and see where the problem is?
Code:
$ logcat
The logcat should say what the class is and where it's called from.
Heck, it could even be in JNI code.
I just tested it, opened but due I am not registered and have no compatible AC, I didn't processed further. My cast vote is given, but not sure whether this is helpful, due not sure whether the app crashes when you open it or after login.
Pixel 6, A13, rooted and unlocked bootloader.
Cheers
Tom
oops!
So.... they have test teams in... China? You want to give CHINA control of your air conditioner? And access to data on your phone?
I'm same with tom1807
Yesterday Instagram app started crashing after I got a video message from a friend, I had to clear cache and reinstall it and reboot the phone, its now working fine, it was weird though