If I read the spec on different websites, there is written that the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 plus (5G Version) should include a proximity sensor.
Now I owned a Flip cover and I would expect, that the screen goes on/off if I open /close the cover. Nothing at all.
After check the proximity sensor via app, it looks not as a valid or defect sensor .My device is not rooted till moment.
Does I've a problem or is there really no proximity sensor anymore included?
I own a tab s7. And it certainly has a proximity sensor. It wakes or sleep with my official keyboard case. Just verify if your flip case supports it or is magnetic.
S7 and S7 plus (5G) contains different Hardware.... starting with the Display, Fingerprint sensor ....
The plus non 5g uses magnetic sleep wake not a proxy sensor. That is how mine works.
krypticos said:
The plus non 5g uses magnetic sleep wake not a proxy sensor. That is how mine works.
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Does you use the original Samsung book cover or one from the OEM market?
I've a cover, which should have a magnetic strike inside, but the Tablet goes not into the sleeping mode if I close the cover....only after time
I have both a dux Ducis Case and the keyboard cover both work for sleep wake
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If I read the spec on different websites, there is written that the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 plus (5G Version) should include a proximity sensor.
Now I owned a Flip cover and I would expect, that the screen goes on/off if I open /close the cover. Nothing at all.
After check the proximity sensor via app, it looks not as a valid or defect sensor .My device is not rooted till moment.
Does I've a problem or is there really no proximity sensor anymore included?
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I have no problem in screen waking on open/close of the cover (official cover). AFAIK, this feature doesn't work based on the proximity sensor. It uses the magnetic field.
Now we have 2 answer
NFC and Magnetic.
NFC I can believe, magnetic with the T976 (7plus 5 G) looks like, that it doesn't work
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Using elixir from the market the proximity sensor is listed as being present. Where is it and why does it not display any values?
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Using elixir from the market the proximity sensor is listed as being present. Where is it and why does it not display any values?
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Something seems to be wrong with my proximity sensor as well..it worked before but since .13 (now on .15 and still not working)..It was working back when I was on .11.1 though.
I know this because I was trying out apps like Smart Screen Pro etc. which turn off the screen when the sensor is covered and all.
Now apps like those don't work for me anymore...and I got AndroSensor to check on my device sensors and the Proximity Sensor sometimes says failed to start, while other times it says "Waiting for event" either way, it never works now
Any help with this?
On my SGS, I had a problem with accelerometer before and I just had to delete a file and let the system recreate it and the problem was fixed. Perhaps something similar can be done with the proximity sensor since it's kinda similar to the accelerometer in the sense that well..they're both sensors of some sort lol
While it actually has a chip that supports the proximity sensor (and thus reports having one), the chip is only used for the ambient light sensor. It doesn't have a proximity sensor.
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While it actually has a chip that supports the proximity sensor (and thus reports having one), the chip is only used for the ambient light sensor. It doesn't have a proximity sensor.
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Ohhh thanks for the info! I soon realized this as well when I was looking through the apps I was testing out before.. Turns out they were using light sensor and not proximity. D'oh!
Oh well, a proximity sensor on a big tablet doesn't make much sense come to think of it.
Ya it does light sensors use more energy than proximity sensors and control via cover state is quite desirable
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Ya it does light sensors use more energy than proximity sensors and control via cover state is quite desirable
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The Prime has a cover state sensor, its magnetic just like that other tablet it is close to the webcam. It is used by the dock to turn off the screen when you close it.
Why no other covers are using it... I have no idea.
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The Prime has a cover state sensor, its magnetic just like that other tablet it is close to the webcam. It is used by the dock to turn off the screen when you close it.
Why no other covers are using it... I have no idea.
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There are some reports that the magnetic sensor only works when the dock is connected. If thats true then one would have to find a way to trick the tablet into turning on the mag sensor manually before it would be any use.
There were some people wanting to use tasker to check the status of the mag sensor for various reasons, detect if its in a case, etc. but they had minimal luck.
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The Prime has a cover state sensor, its magnetic just like that other tablet it is close to the webcam. It is used by the dock to turn off the screen when you close it.
Why no other covers are using it... I have no idea.
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That's a ambient light sensor.
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That's a ambient light sensor.
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Hrm. No.
I have tested this already myself, going to mod my leather case to allow a small magnet on it so the screen turns off when i close it.
The right spot is tricky to find, but it is there, it works and the dock does not have to be connected for it to work.
You can try it yourself, get one of those weak magnets from the freezer and put it around the frontal camera until the screen turns off. Just remember to deactivate the auto-off timer first
Nope. It does not have one.
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Hrm. No.
I have tested this already myself, going to mod my leather case to allow a small magnet on it so the screen turns off when i close it.
The right spot is tricky to find, but it is there, it works and the dock does not have to be connected for it to work.
You can try it yourself, get one of those weak magnets from the freezer and put it around the frontal camera until the screen turns off. Just remember to deactivate the auto-off timer first
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Can you post a pic with the EXACT placement if this sensor, if it exists?
I have rubbed a magnet over every inch of my Prime and the screen never turns off because of it. With regards to the dock it makes much more sense that a mechanical switch would dictate when the screen turns off, since this would be more reliable and since the dock hinge can function like a switch, and the dock plugs directly into the tablet usurping certain tablet functions so it wold be easy to make the dock take over the function of the power button in certain conditions.
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Can you post a pic with the EXACT placement if this sensor, if it exists?
I have rubbed a magnet over every inch of my Prime and the screen never turns off because of it. With regards to the dock it makes much more sense that a mechanical switch would dictate when the screen turns off, since this would be more reliable and since the dock hinge can function like a switch, and the dock plugs directly into the tablet usurping certain tablet functions so it wold be easy to make the dock take over the function of the power button in certain conditions.
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Ill make one once i get home
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It makes absolute no sense to use an ambient light sensor to turn off a screen. Going from a room or a place with a bit of light into a dark room would turn the screen off.
There are 2 holes on the top of the prime bezel. One is the frontal camera, the other the light sensor. The magnet is not there.
If you are facing your Prime it is to the right and a bit down of your frontal camera.
The manget is in the dock right off the track pad.
You can get the exact location with a paper clip. it will stick there.
So, here is the video...
Sadly like other user noticed, it does not work without the dock Probably happened after one of the updates, cause it was working without dock before.
I found the spot myself.
On my BBOK Transformer Prime, the magnetic sensor is just to the right of the camera, but about one inch down into the screen area. If you play with with the keyboard using a magnet you can find a magnet under the right end of the spacebar.
Unfortunately I can confirm that the tablet won't turn off in this way without the keyboard dock connected.
In the app Sensor List there is listed a proximity sensor, however I have only heard of people saying the Prime has no such sensor.
The sensor is listed as: Intersil isl29018 Proximity sensor
It doesn't seem like the app can get any readings from the sensor though. Is my sensor broken or what?
Dont see why the TP would need a proximity sensor, its not like your gunna be putting your face on it !
The app is probs just detecting the light sensor as the proximity sensor or similar ..
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In the app Sensor List there is listed a proximity sensor, however I have only heard of people saying the Prime has no such sensor.
The sensor is listed as: Intersil isl29018 Proximity sensor
It doesn't seem like the app can get any readings from the sensor though. Is my sensor broken or what?
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The TP has no proximity sensor.
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The TP has no proximity sensor.
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Then how do you explain the listing of "Intersil isl29018 Proximity sensor"? Other apps list the same thing. Try it.
Elixir 2 lists a proximity sensor as well, and actually shows it as active and drawing power. But, the app doesn't show it as responding. So, who knows? Maybe proximity sensor functionality is part of a multipurpose sensor, only there's no component to actually take the required readings?
Actually, yes, that's my guess. That part number is a light and proximity sensor, and there's likely just a component to enabling the light sensor part.
http://www.intersil.com/products/deviceinfo.asp?pn=ISL29018
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Then how do you explain the listing of "Intersil isl29018 Proximity sensor"? Other apps list the same thing. Try it.
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Already have tried it. The TP doesn't have a proximity sensor.
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Already have tried it. The TP doesn't have a proximity sensor.
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Actually, you're wrong. The Prime has a proximity sensor--only it's a light and proximity sensor (check out my link above). The proximity sensor functionality simply isn't enabled in the Prime.
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Actually, you're wrong. The Prime has a proximity sensor--only it's a light and proximity sensor (check out my link above). The proximity sensor functionality simply isn't enabled in the Prime.
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Wrong. There is a light sensor, but it isn't a proximity sensor. Check the FCC materials.
actually i think the prima has one.
I think it is inside the dock. Because androsensor (app from the market) gives me an error on this sensor when the dock is not pluged in.
When i plug my tablet in the sensor says no signal.
Can be a bug, but mayby the dock uses the sensor in the hinge to see if it's open or closed?
There has to be the sensor its used when you close the tablet when plugged into the dock that's how it now to shut the screen off
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There has to be the sensor its used when you close the tablet when plugged into the dock that's how it now to shut the screen off
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This could be the case, that it only activates it when coupled with the dock. However, pretty sure I haven't heard of people accidentally putting it to sleep using its touch-screen while docked, so I doubt this is the case; more likely there's a mechanical switch on the dock that let's the Prime know when to turn the screen off.
As linked above, the proximity sensor is one and the same with your light sensor (pretty sure it's like this on my phone too... will have to have a look just to be sure). We just have no need for it to be used: that being said, I wonder if dev's can unlock it just for the hell of it
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Already have tried it. The TP doesn't have a proximity sensor.
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Actually, you're wrong. The Prime has a proximity sensor--only it's a light and proximity sensor (check out my link above). The proximity sensor functionality simply isn't enabled in the Prime.
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Wrong. There is a light sensor, but it isn't a proximity sensor. Check the FCC materials.
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Selhati said:
actually i think the prima has one.
I think it is inside the dock. Because androsensor (app from the market) gives me an error on this sensor when the dock is not pluged in.
When i plug my tablet in the sensor says no signal.
Can be a bug, but mayby the dock uses the sensor in the hinge to see if it's open or closed?
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all wrong. the Prime doesnt exist.
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Easy test
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This could be the case, that it only activates it when coupled with the dock. However, pretty sure I haven't heard of people accidentally putting it to sleep using its touch-screen while docked, so I doubt this is the case; more likely there's a mechanical switch on the dock that let's the Prime know when to turn the screen off.
As linked above, the proximity sensor is one and the same with your light sensor (pretty sure it's like this on my phone too... will have to have a look just to be sure). We just have no need for it to be used: that being said, I wonder if dev's can unlock it just for the hell of it
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Easy to prove/disprove. O have tried it when I 1st got the Prime. Put it in the dock. Close it most of the way, leaving it open about an inch or so. Put your finger over the light sensor (about 2 inches to the left of the camera) It does NOT put it in sleep mode. Close it the rest of the way. It goes to sleep. Shine a bright halogen light in to the area at top of screen, after just cracking the tablet and doc apart a fraction. It does NOT come out of sleep. There seems to be a mechanical switch in the hinge. Which I am not very thrilled about. Too easy to break, the light sensor would probably have been more durable. Another great engineering decision by Asus, going for the "Persistent Perfection" or a reasonable workaround to simulate it, LOL!
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Easy to prove/disprove. O have tried it when I 1st got the Prime. Put it in the dock. Close it most of the way, leaving it open about an inch or so. Put your finger over the light sensor (about 2 inches to the left of the camera) It does NOT put it in sleep mode. Close it the rest of the way. It goes to sleep. Shine a bright halogen light in to the area at top of screen, after just cracking the tablet and doc apart a fraction. It does NOT come out of sleep. There seems to be a mechanical switch in the hinge. Which I am not very thrilled about. Too easy to break, the light sensor would probably have been more durable. Another great engineering decision by Asus, going for the "Persistent Perfection" or a reasonable workaround to simulate it, LOL!
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while the light sensor would have been more durable, it would also prevent deep sleep mode as the OS would have to constantly read the state of the light sensor for keeping screen off and for turning it on immediately upon opening docked tablet.
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I think the Prime has a magnetic open/close detection system.
In a hardware thread someone observed that the Prime will switch off the screen if a magnet is placed in the upper left quadrant. And since the dock is quite magnetic right of the touch pad it seems to fit. I never tried it with a magnet myself though.
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Then how do you explain the listing of "Intersil isl29018 Proximity sensor"? Other apps list the same thing. Try it.
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There use to be a GPS sensor listed in the specifications too. I'm guessing if it doesn't work - it will just mysteriously disappear.
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Easy to prove/disprove. O have tried it when I 1st got the Prime. Put it in the dock. Close it most of the way, leaving it open about an inch or so. Put your finger over the light sensor (about 2 inches to the left of the camera) It does NOT put it in sleep mode. Close it the rest of the way. It goes to sleep. Shine a bright halogen light in to the area at top of screen, after just cracking the tablet and doc apart a fraction. It does NOT come out of sleep. There seems to be a mechanical switch in the hinge. Which I am not very thrilled about. Too easy to break, the light sensor would probably have been more durable. Another great engineering decision by Asus, going for the "Persistent Perfection" or a reasonable workaround to simulate it, LOL!
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Eh, I think I'd hate using a proximity sensor for this. The explanations about magnets is interesting, and definitely not an easily-broken method.
Really though, I plan to use my touch screen even when docked and would be pissed trying to swype/tap/play anything and accidentally send the tablet to sleep.
If there is no light sensor how do you explain the "auto" brightness? It has to be sensing something from somewhere. Unless we're talking about something else here.... cuz i kinda just skimmed through the posts..... >_>
I had a bunch of requests for Wave Control to have this functionality. I thought it best to do a dedicated app so here it is!
Flip Case Control was designed to work with Samsung's Flip Case on the I9300 while using as little battery as possible. (I left it running all night ~8.5 hours and the battery dipped 1% more than usual)
IMPORTANT: If your case is black or dark on the inside, the sensor doesn't read correctly when the case is closed. To fix this, put a piece of light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor (located next to the front camera)
Note: A Samsung based ROM is required. CM won't work well.
Here's a demo video:
Play Store Links:
24 Hour Trial Version
Full Version
Could you guys with the Flip Case test it out?
All feedback is appreciated greatly!
I would like to try it for you but unfortunately i don't have flipping cover for this lovely device as it is not here yet everyday im searching everywhere but nothing
Waiting OP to give us their opinion about this app
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I have the combination.Let me try it and i ll report back
edit: works fine with stock rom and flip case.
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I have the combination.Let me try it and i ll report back
edit: works fine with stock rom and flip case.
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Great, thanks for letting me know!
Is there something special about Samsung's Flip Case? I have a generic flip case but can't get this to work. Running rooted Deodexed LJ1.
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Is there something special about Samsung's Flip Case? I have a generic flip case but can't get this to work. Running rooted Deodexed LJ1.
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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I bought the full version ystd. Yes it does work sith my rock flip case but i had uninstalled ot as it does turn off my screen for no obvious reason when im using it.
Hopefully you can come up with a fix for it soon
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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It's a cheapo from ebay until I can find a decent one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-G...sPouches&var=540094094344&hash=item4d05abf35b
But you're right - the sensor doesn't like black. If I use a piece of lighter coloured tape on the inside of the cover it works! The only issue I have now is that the app is not auto loading at boot.
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I bought the full version ystd. Yes it does work sith my rock flip case but i had uninstalled ot as it does turn off my screen for no obvious reason when im using it.
Hopefully you can come up with a fix for it soon
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I'm working on an update right now to help reduce the unintentional triggers. I need to test it a little bit more but it should be out soon.
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It's a cheapo from ebay until I can find a decent one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-G...sPouches&var=540094094344&hash=item4d05abf35b
But you're right - the sensor doesn't like black. If I use a piece of lighter coloured tape on the inside of the cover it works! The only issue I have now is that the app is not auto loading at boot.
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Are you running the full version? I limited that function to that version. Great to hear the tape fix worked
According to me proximity autolock works well and it is available on play store
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It works OK at the moment, I think the sensitivity should be decreased though as something passing an inch or two above the proximity sensor will still turn off the screen. Seeing as flip covers get up close and personal with the proximity sensor this seems a bit too sensitive.
EDIT: Definitely too sensitive, seems to turn off at random at times. Just had a phase where it wouldn't let me keep the screen on.
Maybe a failsafe of sorts could be implemented? Leave the screen on until timeout/power button press if turned on by the power button?
Edit 2: I uninstalled the app to stop it turning the screen off constantly, but it continued even after a reboot, I went into the display settings and saw the screen timeout had been changed to "()"and this was causing the issue, as soon as I changed it back to 30 seconds it was fine. Is this supposed to happen?
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Are you running the full version? I limited that function to that version. Great to hear the tape fix worked
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Yeah, just running the trial version - that explains it.
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It works OK at the moment, I think the sensitivity should be decreased though as something passing an inch or two above the proximity sensor will still turn off the screen. Seeing as flip covers get up close and personal with the proximity sensor this seems a bit too sensitive.
EDIT: Definitely too sensitive, seems to turn off at random at times. Just had a phase where it wouldn't let me keep the screen on.
Maybe a failsafe of sorts could be implemented? Leave the screen on until timeout/power button press if turned on by the power button?
Edit 2: I uninstalled the app to stop it turning the screen off constantly, but it continued even after a reboot, I went into the display settings and saw the screen timeout had been changed to "()"and this was causing the issue, as soon as I changed it back to 30 seconds it was fine. Is this supposed to happen?
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Ah.. crap. I thought I fixed that bug before I released it. I guess there's still a way for that to happen.
I'm working on an update to help filter out false triggers and will patch that bug. It shouldn't happen. Sorry.
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According to me proximity autolock works well and it is available on play store
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Proximity Autolock is a nice app with some excellent features but uses too much battery on The Note 1, an additional 8% overnight. And it doesn't work well on my Note 2.
The app works well. I bought it
It's a very useful feature that Samsung should have built in, but hey, I don't mind supporting you.
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The app works well. I bought it
It's a very useful feature that Samsung should have built in, but hey, I don't mind supporting you.
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Thanks!
I agree Samsung should have made this app. When I first showed it to a friend, he said "Isn't it already supposed to do that?"
A Beta
Here's what I'm playing with right now.
It should hopefully fix the bug D3_ ran into as well as reduce the false triggers. There will still be some due to sensor placement but this should make it much less sensitive. Also response time to turn on the screen should be a little bit faster. It's working well on my I9300, hopefully it should be the same on the Note II.
Let me know if this is performing better for you guys.
Still coming:
Disable in Landscape Mode
Disable when plugged in
[Edit: Removed Old Beta]
Just installed the beta, will report back after some use of it.
V1.05
Just uploaded version 1.05 to the Play Store
Changes:
Reduced false triggers for screen off
Changed button UI
Added notice about dark cases
Updated icon
Sped up screen on response a little bit
Cant you just do this using Tasker? I already spent money on the flip cover, so kinda hesitant to spend more for this functionality (which should be there in the first place!)
Hi.
I seam to have a strange issue with the proximity sensor on my SGS3. I just got a flip cover that replaces the default back cover. When this is covering the screen, I thought that the sensor would register this, but it don't. It does register if I keep the cover just a multimeter above the screen, but if it touches the screen just above the sensor, it does not register that it is being covered.
This means that I have to keep the flip open during calls, otherwise the screen will be kept on. It also means that I can't use any of the flip-screen-off apps on the market.
This is even an origin Samsung cover http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EFC-1G6FBEGSTA
Anyone knows how to deal with this issue?
I am coming this phone from Huawei P9 that has got Hall Sensor so i am looking for my habits....
I used active flip cover case and my calling screen was different when my phones cover opened and closed on Huawei P9 and i can lock my phone with open and close covers front part.
But i learned that, Redmi Note 8 hasnt got hall sensor and i am having some difficulties...
There is some cover accessories on some shopping websites that look like doing hall sensors job (i think they uses proxymity sensor instead of hall sensor) with an app...
Can they work with those programs with using proxymity sensor with covers instead of hall sensor? (i know they are different but may be act like each other)
Sorry for my bad English but i hope i can describe what i mean...