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Hello,
Have any one noticed that the Droid RAZR surrounding plastic border, at the back, color gets dim from putting it on your desk or table. It's not very obvious, you wont see it except in strong light, but it's obvious enough to bother me every time I look at my RAZR
I have attached a pic I found online which has the same problem as mine and I highlighted the scratched or the dim parts on the plastic border.
Is there a fix for these scratches?
What were you thinking in, Motorola. Why didn't you choose a stronger material around the phone, I mean you did a great job by choosing gorilla glass to protect the display and Kelvar fabrics on the back, and the coating which protects the internal body parts. Yet you made the material which gets the most damages and is highly vulnerable out of plastic...
If you ever owned an iPod with a stainless steel back you'd know that being plastic or metal won't change the eventual appearance of fine scratches. Glass stays shiny and doesn't scratch as easily, but we all saw the crap people gave Apple for making the back of their phone out of that.
I doubt that the scratches can be removed even if they could be you're just going to get them back by putting the phone on your desk again. If you have to go out of your way to look for it under a strong light, it sounds like you either need a case, a hobby, or both.
There actually is a method for removing scratches:
1. Fine grain abrasive paper
2. Abrasive paste
But that will eliminate the paint on your backplate and you should re-paint it with an acrylic paint (like spray paint).
If you're so brave to do that...well..do it...but consider the idea of taking your RAZR as it is and to not put it directly on your desk but like me, put it on its pouch.
The fact that it's going to be scratched is absolutely normal... it's a phone..!
The coolest thing you can do would be to take out the back plate and sent it to a powdercoater. That's what I would do but I think it will mess up the warranty. it would be so cool though.
Isn't it an excess to powdercoat it?
Hey probably in 1 year you won't have it anymore xD
....But I have to admit it would be cool.
Can't polish and compound fix it?
The ones I use for my car =D
mzaza said:
Hello,
Have any one noticed that the Droid RAZR surrounding plastic border, at the back, color gets dim from putting it on your desk or table. It's not very obvious, you wont see it except in strong light, but it's obvious enough to bother me every time I look at my RAZR
I have attached a pic I found online which has the same problem as mine and I highlighted the scratched or the dim parts on the plastic border.
Is there a fix for these scratches?
What were you thinking in, Motorola. Why didn't you choose a stronger material around the phone, I mean you did a great job by choosing gorilla glass to protect the display and Kelvar fabrics on the back, and the coating which protects the internal body parts. Yet you made the material which gets the most damages and is highly vulnerable out of plastic...
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I have the same problem with my first Droid Razr. Then returned it to Verizon Wireless because I got the deal from Amazon.
And on second one, I put more care over that plastic bezel and put carefully a slice of transparent tape to cover it.
Though running at the risk of scratching the plastic bezel, I still let it run nakedly because it is the thinnest phone in the world and any cover will blow that title.
Mine scratched in the same places. I used car polish (Meguires Scratch X) to remove them. Just be gentle. I keep mine in my Casemate case now to prevent more.
That! One of the reason I moved from sgs2 because the plasticky body also collect the scratch at the same area (top and bottom). But it turned out razr metal body also can collect scratch... Geezz, i always put in my left pocket together with handkerchief, never ever put any coins or metallic substances near my phone....
And now, while i look closer to my screen, it too has collect two fine scratch line. Small, but i can see it. I think gorilla glass is way overhyped... As i wander around i also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358493
p.s: can we sue corning? or those guys who hammered their gorilla-glassed phone on you tube with knife?
The title of your thread implies that you already have a fix. You should have it edited.
Otherwise just buy a dang cover/case for the phone or buy little soft towels for every spot you put it down...
Howdy all,
What size double sided tape should I use to stick my Asus TF201 digitizer and LCD back together? I have 3 options, a 1mm, 2mm and 3mm double sided tape. Not sure whats on it now, but if anyone has an idea I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
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Howdy all,
What size double sided tape should I use to stick my Asus TF201 digitizer and LCD back together? I have 3 options, a 1mm, 2mm and 3mm double sided tape. Not sure whats on it now, but if anyone has an idea I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
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I recommend not using any foam tape at all to stick the digitizer to the LCD. I thought there'd be light leaks if I didn't. There were no light leaks. I used double-sided scotch tape to stick the digizer to the front bezel. It worked very well.
If you *do* use foam tape to stick the LCD to the digitizer, you'll go ape-**** crazy if you notice any fingerprints or particles on the inside of the digizer. Without sticking the two together, you can easily separate the two if you need to.
So double sided scotch tape eh? Whats the difference, just easier to take apart if you have to?
Might be an idea, seems to be more of it around here and waaayyy cheaper
Would this be it (put in b0p 1n0 if it asks for a postal code)? : http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/c...191,4,6&name=CA_SK_SCOTCH+-+Double-Sided+Tape
here's another, says it's removeable tape so I don't think that's a great idea : http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=3,3191,4,6&webid=33734&affixedcode=WW
Here's mounting tape, would this work too you think? http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_skuset.asp?CatIds=3,3191,4,6&name=CA_SK_3M+-+Mounting+Tape
And here's a tape of MC Hammer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
LOL on the MC Hammer!
On the mounting tape, keep in mind that the Prime's display has two types of mounting tape. The digitizer glass is affixed to the plastic bezel with very thin (and very sticky) double-sided celophane type adhesive. Then, the LCD is affixed with black foam tape (and screws). i used the Scotch tape to stick my digitizer to the bezel. This had the advantage of being very easy to trim with an exacto. I chose not to use any foam tape at all with the LCD and just rely on the screws to hold it in place. I was needlessly worried about light bleed. It did not. It was fine.
By not using foam tape, I had the HUGE advantage of being able to later remove a tiny speck of debris that got sandwiched between the LCD and digitizer. It was very small, but drove me nuts. If I had used foam tape to mount the LCD, the risk of breaking the damned thing again would have been too great to try removing the speck. It'd still be there.
I highly recommend not using any foam tape. At least try without first. You can always add it later if your heart is set on it. I've read other threads where folks ended up breaking the digitizer or LCD when having a foam-tape malfunction (stuck to the wrong spot, wasn't lined up right, etc.).
I don't use cheap tape or scotch tape (3m) as generally it's not sticky enough for most jobs like this.
I highly recommend mammoth tape for this job. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...AW81oG4Bg&sqi=2&ved=0CFoQrQQ&biw=1067&bih=693 don't get the one with the cloth membrane (labeled as Heavy duty double sided tape) as its too thick and very hard to cut, the one you need is labeled "multi purpose double sided tape".
I get it from a builders merchants but you can get it online. I have tried many brands and alternatives but mammoth is the best stuff I have found.
Ultimately folks can do whatever they want and feel comfortable with. I would council any close friends to just go with the double-sided Scotch tape to stick the digitizer glass to the bezel. It's plenty sticky enough and there's enough (around 1m total perimeter) that you get a good stick. BONUS: It's good and cheap.
With as fragile as the digitizer glass is, you really don't want to screw around with ridiculously sticky adhesives. On the likely chance (unless you're a pro) that you don't set the glass in the bezel just right, highly sticky adhesive is going to make repositioning much harder and you may very well break the new glass trying to reposition.
I highly recommend not using any adhesive at all to hold the LCD to the digitizer for the reasons I've already mentioned. You'll really wish you hadn't.
Jgrimoldy said:
Ultimately folks can do whatever they want and feel comfortable with. I would council any close friends to just go with the double-sided Scotch tape to stick the digitizer glass to the bezel. It's plenty sticky enough and there's enough (around 1m total perimeter) that you get a good stick. BONUS: It's good and cheap.
With as fragile as the digitizer glass is, you really don't want to screw around with ridiculously sticky adhesives. On the likely chance (unless you're a pro) that you don't set the glass in the bezel just right, highly sticky adhesive is going to make repositioning much harder and you may very well break the new glass trying to reposition.
I highly recommend not using any adhesive at all to hold the LCD to the digitizer for the reasons I've already mentioned. You'll really wish you hadn't.
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That's what I was thinking. My LCD was slightly cracked on the edge, but not noticeable. With the 2 sided Scotch tape ($5 here) if it breaks again I can replace it without totally busting the LCD. And if it's sitting in a decent case the screen is going to be reinforced anyway.
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That's what I was thinking. My LCD was slightly cracked on the edge, but not noticeable. With the 2 sided Scotch tape ($5 here) if it breaks again I can replace it without totally busting the LCD. And if it's sitting in a decent case the screen is going to be reinforced anyway.
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I'm not sure going without the foam is the right thing in all instances. I'm working on a Casio G'Zone Commando, replacing the digitizer, and noticed that the digitizer will only work accurately if it is elevated slightly more than if it just sits on the frame where the foam tape was at. I can't tell if the digitizer is just wonky or if the slight elevation caused by the foam tape is needed with this phone.
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
add video replace touch screen.
VirtueToVice said:
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
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Please post updates....with pics etc.
Have a perfectly good LCD at home now with damaged digitizer and frame I'd rather use vs playing around with these crappy Ebay replacement parts I've gotten in the past month
It is not easy to replace but it is very easy to damage LCD, it's not so expensive to buy new screen with digitizer and frames (90-100$) so i prefer to buy full lcd and dont try to replace digitizer.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
nightanole said:
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
luceri84 said:
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
luceri84 said:
But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
My display was broken so I had to buy a new display and bought it along with the side frame. It's perfect but there's one problem-- the screw holes are kinda not in perfect size so none of the 16 screws fit in tightly. They are just somehow screwed in, holding the inner back cover with the sideframe. I'm afraid that if the phone falls, the inner back cover might rip off the sideframe and display assembly and totally rip apart damaging the motherboard, etc.
Since the screws aren't holding the phone tightly in place, I wanna take some measures so as to prevent it from ripping off incase of a fall. I applied very little amount of super glue (fewikwik, popular in India) at two places. But I DO NOT want to use super glue further around the frame because it'll become impossible to remove the inner back cover in future.
My question is, is there any sort of "super glue" available that stick things (plastic here) very firmly but can be removed as well when needed? You can say I am looking for something stronger that typical fevicol but less stronger (and not permanent) than super glue (fewikwik).
you're looking for glue on XDA.
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you're looking for glue on XDA.
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It's related to phone repair and I didn't wanna sign up at a new place for asking this.