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Hi i just wanted to ask if its worth buying the pocophone f1?
I read some problems with the touch screen is that a thing? any other problems that i should becarefull?
Im Between mi8, f1, and honor 10 which one you think i should chhose?
The touch screen issue is fixed in the latest beta it should roll out in the next stable build ~ 1 month. I never had this issue, i have tried many beta and stable builds and no issue with touch. Other than that this phone is solid. I live in Europe, bought it local, don't regret the decision.
Thanks for the answer.
So I guess it's random if you get the touch screen issue or not.
The phone performance is outstanding. However my only issue is with the screen: is oversensitive and it has a notch (I don't like it). The notch can be hid using developer options, so that is solved for me xD.
But again, the phone performance is godlike.
If you can afford the xiaomi mi 8.. then go.for the mi8..
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
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Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.
It's nearly Christmas and I'm looking for a gift for my mum. For the past 4 years she's been using a Samsung Galaxy s3 and has been reluctant to upgrade, though at this point it's become so temperamental that Santa's gonna put his foot down and get her a new phone
I love my pocophone, she loves the photos I take with it and I've got a chunk of cash burning a hole in my pocket. I've seen the 128 gb version new for €240 which seems a no brainer
MIUI is no harder to use than the antiquated junk on her s3 and she'll love the 2 day battery life
My question to you good people is:
I haven't been watching the other phones on the market. Is there anything that competes seriously in the same price range? I'd rather not get her anything second hand as Santa still doesn't recycle, surprisingly enough
Thanks for any suggestions
I was hoping for the note 10 / cc9 pro but I'd say other than the camera it is worse and costs 450€, like wtf. The only thing which the poco is lacking in my opinion is nfc. If she is not going to use it she'll be perfectly fine with the phone. Ah and ghost touches. Lets hope that there are no fts panels around anymore or whatever the reason for that is.
I would say the Poco F1 might be overkill. Go checkout the Redmi Note 7 or Redmi Note 8 plenty fast and also very good camera. Might be a bit cheaper and will work just as good.
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I was hoping for the note 10 / cc9 pro but I'd say other than the camera it is worse and costs 450€, like wtf. The only thing which the poco is lacking in my opinion is nfc. If she is not going to use it she'll be perfectly fine with the phone. Ah and ghost touches. Lets hope that there are no fts panels around anymore or whatever the reason for that is.
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I miss NFC too, but mum wouldn't know what to do with it! Agreed about the note 10. Wondered about getting her a Redmi Note 8, but I gather the camera lets it down
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I would say the Poco F1 might be overkill. Go checkout the Redmi Note 7 or Redmi Note 8 plenty fast and also very good camera. Might be a bit cheaper and will work just as good.
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Perhaps you're right - any opinions of the camera?
I guess the battery life would be huge too, given the processor
The Moto One Action And One Vision are pretty good fones...
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Perhaps you're right - any opinions of the camera?
I guess the battery life would be huge too, given the processor
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If she has an S3 now she will be over the moon with the Redmi Note 7 or 8 camera, my colleague was really happy with the pictures. A serious advantage over the S3 in darker wintertime etc. Also the speed of the camera is a lot faster. You can also install Gcam on them without rooting or modding them which is also great if you want to get her into photography.
When it comes down to battery life, yup, both phones are really amazing.
I also own a Redmi Note 5 pro and to be honest and fair, the processor in the Poco F1 is overkill for what I do. The Redmi Note 5 already handles everything more than fast enough without any waiting. Click and it's there, no frustration or lag. The 7 and 8 even have faster cpu's so no worries on that front.
Just some advice if you buy for your mother (my mother has a Redmi Note 5 pro also, guess how that happened ). What I did was order a glass screen protector and some cases. I guess for 20 euro on Aliexpress you are more than settled. Giving her the phone is really nice but giving it completely protected and usable is a must and she will really like that.
Redmi Note 8 pro or Mi 9 lite
I followed the above recommendations and bought a Redmi note 8
It arrived this week
It's great! She's gonna love it!
(Unfortunately I got it from an AliExpress seller meaning I was hit for another chunk of vat - should have bought it from eglobalcentral where I got my f1; they ship from within the eu)
Thanks for the advice peeps!
Interesting to note the feel of it - felt at least as well put together as my pocophone. Obviously a tiny bit of lag noticeable here and there, but it was minimal - though I saved it the burden of trying PUBG on it!
fones €240
Realme note 5 pro
Nokia 6.x
Mi8
xiaomi A3 (but ram is only 4gb , however xiaomi Cc9e chinese version has 6gb, camera result is not so good)
y7 (amazing camera)
and ofcourse
Galaxy M30 ! (or if you can go €300) (m30s 6/128 variant is something you should seriously check out)
Go with Redmi Note 8 Pro
As i strongly believe she doesn't require anything like Snapdragon 845
Hello!
I'm need a new phone ASAP since my last one died a few days back, my intention is to use it for a few years and eventually once the updates sto and the phone starts slowing down, unlock the bootloader, root the device, flash TWRP and get strated with some ROMs.
Is Redmi Note 9s a good choice considering this?
Is the 4GB version good enough or would the upgrade to 6gb be substantialy noticable and worth it? (I initially wanted to get the 8T but it's only ~$25 upgrade to go with the 4gb 9s instead and over $75 for the 9s in the 6gb version.)
I also considered the Note 8T and 8 Pro.
From what I've read it seems that the 8 Pro is the best of the budget Xiaomi phones but it's the most problematic one with a big potential to get bricked.
The 8T would also probably be fine, but it's a very small difference in price between it and the 4gb version of the 9S which seems to be better in every way.
The 9S seems to have great potential for modding, with easily unlockable bootloader and a Snapdragon that afaik doesn't like to brick itself like the mediatek in the 8 Pro does.
9 Pro is a bit pricy for me, and it seems like tehe only difference is the NFC that i don't need.
What do you guys think i should get?
I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask but since it's a forum dedicated to the development for a phone i consider buying with modding in mind i think it fits here nicely.
I think your best choice right now is the Note 8/8T. It have time on the market, so it have a mature scene of development. The Note 9S is new on the market, and also comes with Android 10 preinstalled, that means there is no official TWRP available and so means less development. Also the Note 8/8T have a Snapdragon SoC, best choice for modding compared to MediaTek on the RN8 Pro. Finally, the RN9S have some bugs that isn't resolved, and we don't know if they are hardware or software bugs, because Xiaomi isn't capable of fixing it, even with a couple of software updates. (wifi on sleep bug, pocket mode bug, bluetooth volume bug)
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I think your best choice right now is the Note 8/8T. It have time on the market, so it have a mature scene of development. The Note 9S is new on the market, and also comes with Android 10 preinstalled, that means there is no official TWRP available and so means less development. Also the Note 8/8T have a Snapdragon SoC, best choice for modding compared to MediaTek on the RN8 Pro. Finally, the RN9S have some bugs that isn't resolved, and we don't know if they are hardware or software bugs, because Xiaomi isn't capable of fixing it, even with a couple of software updates. (wifi on sleep bug, pocket mode bug, bluetooth volume bug)
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Was in OP's situation with my LG G5, went for the 9S Global. Has all the bugs you listed and MIUI is aggravating as all heck. I came from LOS 17 and I appreciate the hardware. I think it'll sell a lot and those bugs will be fixed, but I don't think I will wait much before moving to a GSI - Project Treble, man!
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Was in OP's situation with my LG G5, went for the 9S Global. Has all the bugs you listed and MIUI is aggravating as all heck. I came from LOS 17 and I appreciate the hardware. I think it'll sell a lot and those bugs will be fixed, but I don't think I will wait much before moving to a GSI - Project Treble, man!
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Yeah, I'm also thinking of install GSI ROM by Sooti, but it very annoys me, because isn't right to unlock and mod a month-old device. That really speaks bad about Xiaomi, I think the aggresive phone launching cycle (10 or 20 only the first half of this year!) is affecting the quality control.
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Hello!
I'm need a new phone ASAP since my last one died a few days back, my intention is to use it for a few years and eventually once the updates sto and the phone starts slowing down, unlock the bootloader, root the device, flash TWRP and get strated with some ROMs.
Is Redmi Note 9s a good choice considering this?
Is the 4GB version good enough or would the upgrade to 6gb be substantialy noticable and worth it? (I initially wanted to get the 8T but it's only ~$25 upgrade to go with the 4gb 9s instead and over $75 for the 9s in the 6gb version.)
I also considered the Note 8T and 8 Pro.
From what I've read it seems that the 8 Pro is the best of the budget Xiaomi phones but it's the most problematic one with a big potential to get bricked.
The 8T would also probably be fine, but it's a very small difference in price between it and the 4gb version of the 9S which seems to be better in every way.
The 9S seems to have great potential for modding, with easily unlockable bootloader and a Snapdragon that afaik doesn't like to brick itself like the mediatek in the 8 Pro does.
9 Pro is a bit pricy for me, and it seems like tehe only difference is the NFC that i don't need.
What do you guys think i should get?
I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask but since it's a forum dedicated to the development for a phone i consider buying with modding in mind i think it fits here nicely.
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You are in the same situation I was in, I finally decided on the 9s for precisely the same reasons that you say. Good choice (I bought 4gb versión, I think 6Gb will do lightly better, but unless its price is similar, I don't think it's worth it
I'm looking to buy a new phone. I'm looking at OnePlus, as I want something close to Android stock.
I'm not a power user, I just want a good daily driver that will last me a few years and has a good camera.
I initially thought about the Nord 8/128 for €300. Then, I noticed the 12/256 version is at 350, and thought it might be a better option due to extra RAM and space. appvalley tutuapp tweakbox
Then, I noticed that the Oneplus 8T is at 400 for the 8/128 version, and thought about going for that even thought it's slightly out of my initial budget... but all reviews point out that it has a crappy camera.
On the other hand, all reviews I've seen say that the Nord 2 has a good camera (or, at least, it's the better out of these 3). The 8/128 version is at 400, while the 12/256 is at 440.
So, in a pure Black Friday fashion, I went from planning to buy the Nord for 300 to aiming for the Nord 2 for 440. Am I aiming correctly, or is this a mistake I'm going to regret?
Nord 2 is much better than Nord. Period. You can do own research.
Compared to 8T the camera is better. Even get better score than OP 9
You can check:
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I cannot find better balanced phone than Nord 2. Reviewed OPPO, Motorola, Pixel, others OnePlus, Xiaomi, even Realme...
Few problems with being a OnePlus product and Mediatek SoC - so no easy to customize and custom ROM development. The update to Android 12 seems to bring Color OS to the phone. And seems a bit buggy, as per reports.
After almost 1 year of use rooted , very happy and stuck with latest OOS 11.3.
Edit: DN2103 12/256 bought for ~430€ on Amazon offer.
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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I need a second phone so I looked few models. 2T was one of them. I didn't like the Android 12 + Color OS, which came out of the box. Reviewed the sub-forum for the model here.
I am concerned about Android security updates. Unfortunately with every update OP brings new, unpolished features, imho.
I like Oxygen OS. Not sure if Color OS introduced in Android 12 update and remove fastboot mode are better decisions, regarding end users ...
About the updates when feel outdated will switch to custom ROM. We will have mature ones in few months. There is some right now, too.
Cheers.
Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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OPPO and Realme are the same like OnePlus. Considering OPPO X3 Pro which is about 800€ now or less. Or X3 Neo ( a bit dated soc and screen ) but I am afraid that what happens with OnePlus will happens with two other brands. Realme GT2 an GT2 Pro are interesting, but as part of BBK we can expect the same. Buggy software and zero support as you stated.
About Samsung there are some not user friendly problems as I read, with the latest models, so discarded. Vivo 80 plus look great but it's price is 3x of my Nord 2.
What you really suggest to buy for 400-800€? Pixel 6? There are few review about it. Motorola Edge 30+ is now 600€. Maybe will go for it. And again, what are your suggestions? Thanks.
@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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You are right. They focused on quantity and not on quality, to be more " competitive ". Investing in production and not in support.
My goal is to get a mid range phone with stable lineage os support. Hope this one will get such, despite of the Mediatek SoC.
Cheers.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Nord 2T get 2 update for Android 13 & 14
Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Thank you.
ColorOS better than Oxygen OS? I hope you are right. 2T vs 2. Can you provide data? Not the marketing ones. Any benchmark or unbiased review? Newer not always means better, trust me.
1300 is rebranded 1200 with less performance.
The new firmware become more 'closed' to avoid need of support...
Two examples.
Sold my Nord 2 after two months. Far to many errors with it....
Assistant wont work from the lockscreen
Whatsapp voice message recording stops after 2 secs
Often charging only to 80% with optimized charging disabled
Bluetooth volume in car all over the place and not staying where I set it.
And also this "still on Android 11" update farce.....
Got a Xiaomi 11 T pro now which is much better value for money....
@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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Yeah, their reason is that GC3 has better scratch resistance than GC5. So it's ok if you never drop your phone
Few bad decisions about this phone avoid it to be really good.
Really hope to have good 100% working custom ROM with easy update for the Nord 2. It's very popular and there's a lot projects...