I was hoping for faster Android 11 update, or at least a beta shortly after the 8/8 Pro, and more devs interested (not knocking the ones doing great work now). It almost feels like the Nord was pushed out, then almost forgotten. The fact the other 2 "nords" are getting just one update also doesn't give me faith for future support. I used to love 1+ but now I'm heavily loosing faith in them.
We get 2 mayor android updates and 3 years security updates. Nord is not affected by those other 2 variants of the low-end Nord`s
Android 11 is now closely tested by users in Slack. We might get A11 end of November or half-way December 2020. As I'm informed.
(ps one buddy of mine got kicked out of the test team, for no reason. So he gave me the latest news couple days ago)
Yes
Yes i am now there is a port of stock dialer for 8t .and not for nord
You also need to understand that all phone manufacturers (don't know about Xiaomi though) behave like that. You can't expect getting 3 or 4 major updates on a mid range phone model. Also getting fast updates (having compiled my own ROMs with my previous phone) is also questionable as you either push them out too soon and people complain about broken peripherals or they come (hopefully well tested but) too late, then people complain why they come so late. Anyways also here the high end phones are getting upgrades earlier as there are people spending more money on the manufacturer's phones
Take it easy, have some patience and enjoy these well performing phones until we will get a notification about Android 11, pretty sure we have more important things to worry about other than getting upgrades (too?) soon
It's nice to have "some" support but it isn't a big deal breaker how long OnePlus keeps maintaining a certain device. If you buy a device with enough XDA community support and the manufacturer stops updating, just start flashing custom roms and go ham I kept my Bacon (OnePlus One) alive for 5 years (!) ( it's running LOS17.1 atm) when I got my Avicii. Or just buy an iPhone
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lol. Let me list the people torn between buying a OnePlus Nord or an iPhone...:
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FWIW, I upgraded from OnePlus 3T, to OnePlus 5T and recently to the OnePlus Nord and loving it. Really happy with the Nord's value and price point. 5G, VoLTE, VoWiFi, Battery Life, etc.
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I was hoping for faster Android 11 update, or at least a beta shortly after the 8/8 Pro, and more devs interested (not knocking the ones doing great work now). It almost feels like the Nord was pushed out, then almost forgotten. The fact the other 2 "nords" are getting just one update also doesn't give me faith for future support. I used to love 1+ but now I'm heavily loosing faith in them.
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Patience is virtue mate, Just because updates are not on time doesn't mean support team is bad,
Mind you, There is a reason the updates are delayed, If updates were given this early without the alpha testers (Which are still ongoing in secret) So called "Community Members" will be screaming out saying "This isn't working" "That isn't working" , So It's better for to stay calm and wait other than being sad over updates are delayed
oh I almost forgot, even though they released the "2 nords" they won't be getting the major updates It was thoroughly mentioned in the news articles.
Oos 11 might come begin Januari 2021. We may not expect another 10.5.10 update, but straight OOS 11.
Source from insider @slack Beta Testers.
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I have an HTC M9 that we have now changed to being the "home phone". My wife picked up the Oneplus 3 and I got the Axon 7. Well guess what, my older M9 just got an OTA and updated to nougat..
While my Axon 7 and her oneplus 3 has no release yet (except hers has a beta).. One of the reasons for my Axon 7 purchase was because I thought it would have faster release times but I was wrong apparently. Anyone else feel this way?
I've been very pleased of the hardware of the phone, but the lack of software support is on the verge of me never getting another zte phone again. Wi-Fi calling, which was promised before the phone was released (which was the main reason I convinced my wife we needed new phones) still hasn't come. This is a huge issue to me, and zte has not commented on it for a while now. Very disappointing. They've definitely been dragging their feet on a lot of stuff.
Before we got these phones, we had the moto x pure edition. Great phone in terms of software, and hardware was pretty good for the time. All it was lacking for me to love it was wifi calling. Software updates were a lot slower than I had imagined they would be as well, but overall pretty good.
Yep. The software side of it stinks and is the only thing that lets this phone down. They really need to invest in giving a much better user experience. The phone rocks but the user experience sucks. They should try and stick to android and expand on features instead of trying copy ifeatures like a lot of phone manufacturers are trying to do.
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Hate to beat a dead horse, but I am going to anyway. Daydream was a big selling point for me. Still waiting for that. Also, future official cyanogenmod support for those who choose to go that route. I'm really rethinking my decision. If ZTE doesn't do an about face soon on pushing out updates and fulfilling the features they advertised, I won't be buying another ZTE in the future.
I don't know any informed buying would expect ZTE release Nougat update sooner than OnePlus, for obvious reasons. Also the title of the thread implies there's a date for Axon 7's Nougat release... which is not the case.
So yeah, I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I'll leave this here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/news-nougat-preview-release-registration-t3515489
Hi, I've had Moto phones like the Razr-i, G4 Play, and G7 Play but am growing unhappy with their limited security updates. I worry more about being up to date with security patches as there is always more news about exploits. I'm not familiar with OnePlus. Are they consistent about security updates? I see a claim of more years of support, but wonder how it works in practice for the budget models. In my experience, Moto has been pretty lackluster in pushing updates even before the 2 year window expires.
Has anybody here also used budget Moto phones and already switched to the N200 5G? How much difference would I find using this phone?
As my username says, I am a light user of Android. I mostly use it to glance at the Google Calendar, Slack notifications, and calls and SMS. I use desktop and laptop computers for most of my regular email, web browsing, etc. But, I've noticed that it is hard to read web pages on a 720 pixel wide screen because it is fuzzy if you scale so that the whole page fits. I also see it stutter, and assume this is because my current phone only has 2GB RAM.
I disable the Google assistant and actually want a phone to be more like an idle pocket computer, not a busy bee trying to be clever and annoying me with suggestions, integrations, etc. I have been able to configure the Moto launcher to be boring like that. Can that be done with the N200 or would I need to install Nova launcher or something?
I use Mint, a T-Mobile MVNO and care about stability for calls with both VoLTE and WiFi Calling. I don't really care about 5G speeds vs LTE but would hope it makes the cell connectivity more stable rather than less?
Thanks for any feedback or real world review!
You'd rather get a pixel 4a for that kind of usage and concerns about security patches, not a oneplus.
Huh... you don't think the N200 will get regular updates? Or are you saying OnePllus doesn't provide good security even if it is up to date? Do you think OnePlus is less secure than Moto or the same?
I feel like the pixels are in a different price bracket.
I'm just gonna point out that OnePlus is a Chinese company, and uses an Android OS variant made in China.
Chinese companies are not exactly known for keeping other countries (or their own) personal data secure (quite the opposite).
Take that how you will.
Hmm, do people think OnePlus is any less secure than Moto? Moto is also a Chinese company (part of Lenovo).
I find this hard to sort out.... those factories have to be trusted to put together the hardware and image the firmware. Even the pixel phones are made there, aren't they? If you go down this path questioning it, why assume that any software update afterwards can secure it, if the origin is murky? :-/
Edit: I've wondered the same thing about used phones and how permanently someone can tamper with it. That's one reason I am buying new budget phones and wondering about the N200 versus the Motos!
I don't mean to take this away to off-topic land. Can anybody report what security patch level they have received with a retail (unlocked) US N200 5G?
And if anybody is using one with T-Mobile or Mint, do you find it to be getting stable network connectivity and calls?
yes, stables calls and connectivity in Los Angeles area with Tmobile. As of the time of this writing its on July Security Patch. If you are worried aobut exploits and want the latest patches it best to just go with a official google supported phone the like Pixel series or a Iphone as they keep up to date with security patches on their latest devices.
In my experiance if you just want it for calls and text and the like you should be ok. I just came off a pixel 3a for this phone and before that I did the samsung s thing and before that the motorola cliq series. Am I totally thrilled with the phone? No, it's a budget phone that runs better than any other budget phone I have seen, however, it is still a budget phone My hope is that as soon as we can get root that the phone will rock due to it actually having decent hardware. So it's more of an expectation thing. Sounds like it will be fine for your use case, Good readability screen and enough horsepower for what your doing.
Hey lightuser, which company are you conducting this "questionnaire" for?
If I may?
Motorola?
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Huh... you don't think the N200 will get regular updates? Or are you saying OnePllus doesn't provide good security even if it is up to date? Do you think OnePlus is less secure than Moto or the same?
I feel like the pixels are in a different price bracket.
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Im saying you want cheap and android and stable security patches? Go with the mother of it all, pixel (not the high-end ones of course).
I got the n200 because of "free" from tmo, it's not what im used to thought. This phone is weak and slow and 5G/wifi speeds suck.
If those basic functions are sooo weak and you oneplus officially said: 1 major upgrade of the OS, you just know this little weak guy doesn't have a long life in the security updates either
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I don't mean to take this away to off-topic land. Can anybody report what security patch level they have received with a retail (unlocked) US N200 5G?
And if anybody is using one with T-Mobile or Mint, do you find it to be getting stable network connectivity and calls?
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I've got the unlocked variant from the OnePlus store. I got an update on August 4th with the July 2021 security patch, so that's what I have now. Before that, I had the 2021-04-01 update.
I'm going to join in and *not* recommend OnePlus for light android users. They don't have a great long-term update policy - see articles like https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/...e-commitment-is-uninspiring-yet-unsurprising/. They also anecdotally don't have a great support team, and don't deal with factory-broken hardware well (for example, the microphone issues with the OnePlus One which left many users without a very inconsistent microphone when making calls on phone speakers or speakerphone).
The reason the community likes OnePlus is not their updates, though. It's the custom ROM community: every OnePlus phone has its ROM released, and has an unlockable bootloader.
What this means is *if you're willing to install a custom ROM*, you're almost guaranteed the community - XDA forums and the like - will provide updates above and beyond the product's lifetime. With this, for example, the OnePlus One, released in 2014, still has new community-based updates today! See threads like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...1-july-10th-lineageos-17-1-june-11th.3693223/.
This also means you get a guaranteed ability to root the phone, and thus can change and optimize the OS for your usage.
To be clear, if you're willing to use comumunity-produced ROMs, and understand the benefits and drawbocks of that, OnePlus phones are great. Lots of people will be drawn to them, similar to google phones, and you'll get software for into the future at the cost of having to rely on builds provided by strangers on the internet.
If you aren't, or have never installed a custom ROM and would rather not, don't get OnePlus. The three things they've had going for the are: custom ROMs, hardware that's specced above what you'd expect at the price point, and marketing. Software is not their strong suite.
I really like the Nord N200's hardware design, it's great bang-for-buck, and it seems quite sturdy. But people have *already* reported microphone issues when using cases which with OnePlus's track record will probably never be fixed unless you apply the fix yourself as part of a custom ROM, and you won't be happy 2 or 3 years down the road when your options are to run an outdated OS or rely on strangers online to provide custom OS builds with no guaranteed support or bugfixes, and which automatically void your warranty when installed.
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Im saying you want cheap and android and stable security patches? Go with the mother of it all, pixel (not the high-end ones of course).
I got the n200 because of "free" from tmo, it's not what im used to thought. This phone is weak and slow and 5G/wifi speeds suck.
If those basic functions are sooo weak and you oneplus officially said: 1 major upgrade of the OS, you just know this little weak guy doesn't have a long life in the security updates either
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the ATLEAST "one major update" will probably be a jump to the next major android version, however the " regular maintenance updates" will be the regular security patches that they most likely roll out in a timely fashion as they are known to do usually. It sounds like it will be s supported just like any other oneplus phone in my opinion. The hardware is decent for the price and considering its free from tmobile (cant beat that), its actually runs everything fine including all the games ive played just fine (Call of Duty , CLASH OF CLANS), the only super major weak disaappointment is the camera, considering Xiaomi can make sub $250 budget phones with a impressive budget camera, it puts the N200 camera to shame. I dont know your 5G test environment but in Los Angeles where i am, if i lock onto the same 5G bands as my friends Iphone 12,, i actually get better 5G speeds than my friend who has a Iphone 12 Max. WiFi speeds seem normal to me, but then again i am only 10-15 feet away from the router most of the times.
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Hey lightuser, which company are you conducting this "questionnaire" for?
If I may?
Motorola?
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Sorry, I'm just a user looking at my G7 Play which says "your software is up to date" and a February patch level, and finding only disappointment when I look at the available replacements and consider how soon I'll see this again...
Thanks all! I guess I am hearing the message that I need to either adjust my belief about what "budget" means (to consider Pixels etc) or accept that security is not included at the budget level...
posted on Google Pixel Community just now:
"We have provided the monthly software update for March 2022. All supported Pixel devices running Android 12 will receive these software updates as part of the March 2022 update, which begins rolling out for most users today. The rollout will continue over the next week in phases depending on carrier and device. Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro devices will receive the update later this month."
And it looks like they fixed a lot of stuff too.
Bummer.
Oh boy, they're taking a piss again
I like my P6.....but.....come on Google.......
Check out the long list of fixes, including fingerprint sensor performance!
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/153884074?hl=en
Definitely not a good look for the flagships to face repeated delays. Phone was announced nearly 5 months ago, right? Sheesh.
I'm guessing that there is something about the Tensor chip that's slowing down the software build process. Note that all the other Pixels have a build number of SP2A.220305.12, the Pixel 6 and Pro have SP2A.220305.013.A3.
Here we go again with the crying and whining.
Gas prices are what you should be crying about.
This is why l came back from OnePlus to get timely updates 🫣
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Here we go again with the crying and whining.
Gas prices are what you should be crying about.
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Think your on the wrong forum my friend this one is for phone's Not for energy prices
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I'm guessing that there is something about the Tensor chip that's slowing down the software build process. Note that all the other Pixels have a build number of SP2A.220305.12, the Pixel 6 and Pro have SP2A.220305.013.A3.
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Yeah all the other SOCs are Qualcomm and we essentially have an exynos. But they should have the bugs ironed out by now. I understood at first but it is getting to the point where it is unacceptable. Tensor was supposed to improve updates not hinder them.
Sorry you find that offensive l will edit my post. In my country the UK it doesn't mean the same thing
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Mate is a gay slur? Since when? I always thought it was a term of friendliness among guys in other countries like Australia, GB, Ireland etc. usually spoken when at a pub. Perhaps it was from matey, a pirate saying like Ahoy Matey. But I don't know really. Either way we're once again getting screwed by the oligarch oil companies jacking up prices because then they can even pay less taxes than the minus (read subsidized) taxes they now (don't) pay. But I digress... Ok where the heck is the update for those poor folks that have no signal or very intermittent call quality? Thankfully, I'm not in that camp but there are a lot of folks who are and need this update. They already had an extra week due to the date issue and they still couldn't get the update done? I find it unacceptable and this will really hurt their brand outside of us die hards.
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I am from the US. A mate is a girl friend, a wife.
Mate means screwing your partner.
So you can understand better, what do animals do when they pair up?
Sigh.......
Anyone know if the March update will bring us 12L?
Yes it is 12L if l am not mistaken
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500907414845022208A friend just shared this with me
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500907414845022208A friend just shared this with me
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Might be, since all the other pixels are on a 4.x kernel. Only the Pixel 6 and Pro are on a 5.x kernel
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Kernel update to 4.9.292 for Pixel 3a & Pixel 3a XL.
Kernel update to 4.14.257 for Pixel 4, Pixel 4 XL & Pixel 4a.
Kernel update to 4.19.220 for Pixel 4a (5G), Pixel 5 & Pixel 5a (5G).
Kernel update to 5.10.66 for Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro.
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Maybe a mod can step in a clear this mess up.
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Nah we'll be fine. A little OT never hurts as long as it doesn't get out of hand. I don't think this will.
Dam l hate the xda app now it's such a nightmare to use, nothing like the old days.
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Dam l hate the xda app now it's such a nightmare to use, nothing like the old days.
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Agree. I usually need to get on my computer to respond accordingly.
people should finally SHUT UP.
its delayed and still coming this month.
ever had a xiaomi/oneplus/huawei? you need to wait 6-12 months for a possible update.
So I recently picked up the Nord 2 after swearing off of OnePlus phones following my 8T not receiving notifications properly (returned it) and the Oppo merger was scaring me off a little but I decided to take a risk and try the Nord 2 after MUCH deliberating between it and the POCO F3. And I can happily say I am very happy.
Coming from the S20 FE I haven't noticed any real difference in performance aside from the 90hz screen which I'm now used to. The phone is snappy, the ColorOS integration is actually really well done and I'm happy with it, way more than I would have been with MIUI. I'm really interested to how Android 12 is going to look on this thing and I'm happy to get at least to Android 13 before this thing isn't supported anymore.
Overall? For £400 I'm very happy. I'm happy to answer any queries people have about the device.
I guess you aren't rooted?
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So I recently picked up the Nord 2 after swearing off of OnePlus phones following my 8T not receiving notifications properly (returned it) and the Oppo merger was scaring me off a little but I decided to take a risk and try the Nord 2 after MUCH deliberating between it and the POCO F3. And I can happily say I am very happy.
Coming from the S20 FE I haven't noticed any real difference in performance aside from the 90hz screen which I'm now used to. The phone is snappy, the ColorOS integration is actually really well done and I'm happy with it, way more than I would have been with MIUI. I'm really interested to how Android 12 is going to look on this thing and I'm happy to get at least to Android 13 before this thing isn't supported anymore.
Overall? For £400 I'm very happy. I'm happy to answer any queries people have about the device.
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Never had a Nord (yet) but I have had three OnePlus phones - 6, 7-Pro, 8T and they all have functioned quite well for me. I know many people say they're never going to buy a OnePlus phone again for various reasons, and reading these statements can have an effect on us readers causing us to reevaluate our decisions. While I hope that using a Chinese phone will not be detrimental to my data, I have also owned a Huawei phone that I gave to my sister - Mate 10 - and she is still using it without any issues. I also had a ZTE Axon 7 which I truly loved and wish I could find an equivalent even now. So I guess what I'm saying is that OnePlus does make good phones...in my opinion...and I am actively watching to see what the Nord N20 brings to the table here in the US! If it checks off enough boxes then I just may buy my 4th OnePlus phone!
Don't let others negative opinions sway your decision. Research the facts and then you will hopefully get a good phone that meets your needs.
I've had a OP3T, a 5 (which is up to day still GF's daily driver), a 7 pro (which I am currency de-googling with E/OS) and now the Nord 2.
I love OP in general and the Nord 2 in particular as well (not too big, not top heavy as the 7 pro, fast as hell, nice vibrations, not too heavy, all good).
BBut for me rooting is the most important. And hell what a disaster this particular phone is to root. After a year still TWRP able to make Nandroids and almost no development going in.
That last thing wonders me most. Even the OP1 still gets new roms coming out. But the Nord 2.... A few spin offs that's it. And that sucks.
Hi there! Just a quick question about what phone I should get next. I've been with OnePlus for a long time, first using a OnePlus 5T then a OnePlus 7T and now a OnePlus Nord. While I think the brand has slowly moved away from what I originally chose it for, cheaper price point for flagship specs, I am still happy with the phones and would get another one. I just smashed my OnePlus Nord and since I've already had it repaired before and I've had it since it launched, I was looking at getting a new phone. I really really liked the One Plus Nord, possibly my favorite of the bunch, so I was thinking of getting the OnePlus Nord 2. I wanted to ask first, what are people's opinions and user experience with the Nord 2, is it worth it?
Honestly, best consumerism practice states to never have "brand loyalty" and instead consider all options and pricepoints available to you. Do your research thoroughly, and don't let brands sway your decision too much.
If you are a fan of rooting and modifying your device on the software side the experience isn't great on the nord2 due to it's less common mediatek chipset, complete lack of official stock rom from oneplus, and the ensuing lack of custom roms and mods that this entails. Also the lack of AB partitions meaning OTA updates are inconvenient on this phone if running stock OS rooted.
And even if you're not into aftermarket software or rooting, the quality of the stock OxygenOS is declining. Judging from your previous phones, you should be aware that OxygenOS used to be very highly regarded within the community, but that is becoming less and less the reality in the past year or two, which the community is blaming mostly on the Oppo merger and ColorOS influences, with their latest OxygenOS 12 rollout being fraught with bugs and almost unuseable at times, without an option to rollback without very advanced knowledge / image files from other xda forum users.
As for performance, battery life, camera performance and the other hardware side consideration, you can look up plenty of data about this from youtube and various reviews around the internetl They're pretty decent but definitely not flagship standards by any means.
So in summary;
Aftermarket software/tweaks/rooting score = F (worst grade possible)
Stock software/Oxygen OS = D (pretty bad, getting worse by the month)
Hardware = B+ (pretty decent)
So basically, worthwhile if you don't plan to root/modify the phone and just want an ordinary phone for daily use, you're getting decent hardware as long as you can pick up the phone for a reasonable price and don't plan to use wireless chargers with it. Do note the phone is around 1 year old now so don't pay premium price for it anymore, phones of this kind of spec and age are only worth considering for a good price point, otherwise the midship phone market is totally saturated with good choices. The Google pixel 6a coming out in a few weeks time is a good example.
Could not agree more with @Zombnombs. I am using the phone for almost a year now and tweaking and rooting this phone is a nightmare. at the moment iam on a broken OS / firmware, so i cannot update the phone anymore (As OTA update refuses to work). Very dissappointed in that regard as i was used to easily tweak OP phones in the past. Oneplus is not the same company anymore as it was in 2014 :/
This phone is good for the average Joe. does everything you want a smartphone to do, and is pretty fast, takes decent pictures, but i think there are better options out there now.
Is there a decent Android phone in less than $600 / 600€ ?
Nord 2 5G is one of them. Once figured how to root without bootloop ( no TWRP) do great the job.
I am not happy with some stupid OnePlus decisions but in general the phone performs well.
Don't find oxygen so bad. My other driver is lineage os and feel the same comfortability.
Yeah, OTA update on rooted is pain and mtk is not my favorite SoC, but the overall experience is great.
Almost a year on customized & rooted.
If someone suggest better phone in this price segment will consider the change.
Particularly I cannot find one.
Best.
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After few days of research and looking on OPPO, Realme, OnePlus, Motorola, Samsung, (Xiaomi - no), didn't liked one more than mine DN2103. Will keep it, hopefully with oxygen 11.3.