Hi all, this is my first post on XDA. It's not an unfamiliar place for me though. For the past 3-4 years I've owned 3 different sets of Android phones, and this is THE home that satisfied my software tinkering. I've many great memories of Android, especially Galaxy Nexus. But the joy of my reunion with Nokia is indescribable. Finally WP8. Finally Nokia. Enough of my "introduction". I've this question for you folks out there. Has anyone experienced the same - that new updates are available for installed apps but not showing up on the app store live tile? I've noticed this a few times, the latest being Nokia drive + beta. I learned about the available update through wpcentral. It's only when I searched for the app on the store that the live tile started showing"1" (means 1 update available.
I should clarify that this is not just on the live tile. In fact I didn't see any update notification even when the app store is launched. It was almost like I had to view the app on the store (that's where you see the "update" option) in order to trigger the notification.
hehedeba said:
I should clarify that this is not just on the live tile. In fact I didn't see any update notification even when the app store is launched. It was almost like I had to view the app on the store (that's where you see the "update" option) in order to trigger the notification.
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I don't currently have my 920 to hand (it's in for repair) but if memory serves you can go to Settings > Phone update and make sure it's set to automaticly check for updates.
I am getting at least some app update notifications, but I certainly did notice that the notification for Nokia Drive didn't appear. But I think that sometimes there is a delay between the update becoming available in the store, and the notification appearing on the phone. Perhaps because you knew there was an update for Drive, you got in there and looked in the store before your phone had had a chance to notify you.
I experienced the lack of notification for metrotube, nokia extras+info, and nokia creative studio all within this week. I only came to know of the updates all because of wpcentral. It really puzzles me. I'm certain there isn't any settings for toggling app update notification on wp8 (unlike android play store). Or is there..?
I think the app just have a day delay...
We know that those blog are much faster than the store app.
I got the updates today. Seems to be a delay or something. Patience I guess.
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Looks like another member has noticed the same. (qn #5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048394
The Store only checks for app updates at certain times, at which point if it finds something it'll update the tile. The tile does not update as soon as app updates become available. So there is a slight delay between the update going live, and the live tile being updated.
Nothing new, totally normal.
If you're reading about app updates on wpcentral, then you've most likely read about the update before the Store got a chance to check for updates.
Thanks. That makes sense.
After deliberately searching all my installed apps on app store, I just realized I have 2 apps that have new updates. They are My Stocks Portfolio and List & Things (paid). Updates were released on 12/12 and 13/12. Today is 17/12, but I never saw the available updates info on the store's main screen or live tile. After this deliberate exercise, I do see the available updates info on store app main screen as well as the live tile. I'm also now convinced this is a current shortcoming in wp8 app store.
Oh, and Evernote as well. I missed that out somehow. Update was released on 14/12.
If app is updated in lets say 10.12. It does not mean you can download in that day or even day later. I think thats date when they went to checking.
Ive been having the same thing...... The other day I had 12 all at once. Now some of the apps I knew had updates from reading on wpcentral so I thought I would leave it and see how long.
5 days later it pop up saying I had the update.
zolgi,
Your understanding is incorrect. The "last updated" information shown on app store is real time with the update's availability. I'd validated on a few apps. When you go to view the app, it shows update is available. It's only then the information gets pushed to the app store main screen and live tile (if you keeps it on your home screen). I accepted it as a temporary shortcoming which will get fixed in future. From other forum members in wpcentral, I also learnt it used to work on wp8 and is still working on wp 7.5 .
Push notification
Jim Coleman said:
I am getting at least some app update notifications, but I certainly did notice that the notification for Nokia Drive didn't appear. But I think that sometimes there is a delay between the update becoming available in the store, and the notification appearing on the phone. Perhaps because you knew there was an update for Drive, you got in there and looked in the store before your phone had had a chance to notify you.
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There is a known bug affecting push notifications on WP8 which can be triggered by a number of badly behaved applications, even with a small number of allowed backgroungs tasks in "settings". Further, the "Find my phone" setting is buggy: when you activate it by pushing the slider to the rightn when you go back to settings it will say "Find my phone is not activated". Further, the "Find my phone" page in settings does not offer a push notification setting on the Nokia Lumia 920, contrary to what WP8 Microsoft help says. Find my phone however works ok.
Anyone with a solution?
Hey everyone!
With the help of the excellent guides on this forum, I was able to root my Fire HD 6 and install GAPPs. However, I'm relatively new to the Amazon ecosystem, and rooting in general, and I was wondering if I could get some help on a few tasks that would make my experience way better.
First, I need to be able to allow notification access to a few apps I use, but since I'm still using the restricted Amazon settings menu, I can't see how to do it. How do I access the vanilla Android settings menu?
Second, I would love to use a lockscreen like Echo, but when I swipe in, it just shows the Amazon Special Offers lockscreen. How do I disable the Amazon one?
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With the help of the excellent guides on this forum, I was able to root my Fire HD 6 and install GAPPs. However, I'm relatively new to the Amazon ecosystem, and rooting in general, and I was wondering if I could get some help on a few tasks that would make my experience way better.
First, I need to be able to allow notification access to a few apps I use, but since I'm still using the restricted Amazon settings menu, I can't see how to do it. How do I access the vanilla Android settings menu?
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LOL. Welcome to our world, where all roads lead to Amazon settings. Seriously, there's no such thing as a vanilla Android settings menu. I haven't tested latest OS, but on last version Push notifications tended not to work or to be very late--Hangouts didn't work at all. Other kinds of notifications (from Gmail, xda a few others) were pretty good. I'm doubtful anything's changed with this release, but you can try one of the Xposed modules that offer per-app notification settings. Might be something at the Play Store.
Second, I would love to use a lockscreen like Echo, but when I swipe in, it just shows the Amazon Special Offers lockscreen. How do I disable the Amazon one?
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You can disable the ads and get Amazon's stock lockscreen wallpaper. See here. I've tried a few lockscreen apps and Xposed modules, but they either didn't work or made the lockscreen look wrong or behave badly. Maybe you can get something to work after disabling ads.
hi folks, I have a Mate 20x bought off ebay (should be Chinese version)
I am in US
I have a big issue, which is the notification from my home security apps (ring/arlo)
1. the notification setting for these two apps is often changed anonymously by the system, thus I often miss notifications
2. there is no pushed notification shown at locked screen, although there is sound alert. I need to drag down to see what notification has come up
3. when phone is switched off at night and switched back on in the mornign, no notification from ring/arlo for last night would show up. I will need to open the apps and check history.
This has been a concerning issue for me as today I missed the postman who has an important package. Did anyone has a solution?
also a minor issue, google map would not speak street name, and google assistant could not be summoned at lock screen. But compared with the notification issue, these are more minor.
I have the same issue with the ring app. I talk to support and the say the app its not fully compatible with android 9.0. I have and via twitter the say the 360 security system is blocking something. But I can't disable the app.
Huawei says that they cant help because each model in this Chinese one it's made for other kind of service. The I don't find any logical explanation in that. I have because that means no one in China can have a functional ring service.
I think this it's an ring app issue but they don't care about this issue.
Did you remove Ring from battery optimization? I have ring, and most of the time it works. Its just i cannot assign a ringtone provided by ring, it has to be stock huawei ones..
1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
Me too, this phone Is very good and pleasant to use as a daily driver . I have imaginée this phone before (i used the nec 05e,thé royole
flexpai 1,thé fold1and flold2 and several zflip). A little'more slimmer and lighter would bé perfect...but its ok.
M'y only complaint is about wifi calling with erratic behavior and disconnection ..maynbe a solution will occur..(more accurzte localisation or wiffi setting
i missed...)
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1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
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Useful info here, thank you very much
Thanks for sharing your experience.
The Nokia N9 was one of the greatest phones ever.
And I too love the Oppo Find N.
After rolling with the Asus Padfone seriess for years (used the first gen Padfone for 1.5 years, and killed 3 new Padfone Infinities after that ). After that I had to switch to "boring" Asus Zenfones (had the 3 and 6)...
But now I finally have a fun and special phone again!
The best foldable ever this phone shifted me from iOS back to Android
To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
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To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
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Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
lombrozo said:
Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
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I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
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I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
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Ah ok. Beeper is still invite only I think?
I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
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I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
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How do I do that?
Register on the waiting list and email [email protected] or tweet them.
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
wagz said:
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
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Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
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Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
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Yeah, I just use the Force LTE app because it looks like they removed the preferred carrier band preference from settings on the find n. On all my other android phones, under mobile networks, there's usually a setting that allows you to pick which bands you want your phone to use. Like I said, 5g is actually slower for me than 4g, so I need a way to basically shutoff 5g when I'm in my home area. So without that setting on the android settings of the phone, I have to rely on an app like Force LTE. There's a lot of discussion on the interwebs about why 5g ends up being slower in some areas, like rural areas, than 4g. So it's something that will eventually get fixed and I won't have to worry about. But I just mentioned it in case someone needed a replacement for that android setting, not that people need it.
I've been using a Find N for about 2 months. I set up mine much like other people on this thread . Background on for almost all apps, auto-launch for main messaging apps, Google keyboard, Google assistant, GPay, default launcher, GCam/default Cam, Brave/Samsung Internet, Gmail/Outlook. I set up apps as full screen or 4:3 if they open sideways (still good to use). For social apps I use regular apps and WebApps too because the WebApps take full advantage of the big display (Instagram, Twitter and Instagram).
I've been playing games on emulators for the past 2-3 weeks (Switch and GameCube) and noticed yesterday that the screen protector on the big display has tiny marks (probably fingernails?). Is it ok to remove the factory screen protector and apply a new one? The marks are tiny and only on the "joystick area" so they don't bother me but I'm gonna eventually sell this in the future and may consider replacing the screen protector.