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I couldn't help but realize that Android could never get something as detailed as Infinity Blade, but is there hope? And what handset could handle such graphics?
Here is the trailer/article of Infinity Blade:
http://www.redmondpie.com/epic-game...for-iphone-4-is-mind-blowingly-awesome-video/
Well the Samsung Galaxy S has a more powerful GPU than the iPhone 4 (SGX540 vs iPhone's SGX535). So theoretically better games can be made for Android.
But with Android being so widespread the high end games won't run on all Android phones. For example, my old HTC Hero doens't have OpenGL 2.0 support and sucks at all types of gaming.
xoltrix2000 said:
And what handset could handle such graphics?
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The main problem isnt the hardware, android has the hardware to support most iOS games (excluding the first few models) but we're lacking the developer support. One day they might realise and then start android development, and then we'd have the definitively winning devices
Well both ID with their RAGE mobile engine have said they are using it for android development and EPIC has shown their unreal engine running on android...both on tablet and phone...its a matter of time now
the short answer... no at the moment.
Despite the fact I loathe apple, one thing I have to give to them is that their graphic engine for 3d games is much more superior than any android on the market.
Just compare playing Hero of Sparta on a SGS(which I own) as opposed to the Ipod touch. You can really feel the lag on the android.
However considering the fact that Sony annouced the PSP android phone, which is scheduled for next year, I am sure it is a issue that would be addressed by next year,
Apple has all good games, android do but not that much. I hope next year more developers will be porting games to android. I really would like to have a tap tap revenge on my vibrant.
I also think its quite difficult to develop games on the android due to the large range of resolutions and styles of each android phone. its a lot easier to develop a game if its based on a single type of phone with a single resolution - like the iphone is.
You guys are right. Perhaps is a matter of time, once they some how manage the fragmentation, like creating a gaming classification for handset manufacturers to encourage developers to make apps to that set class.
Hmmmm,
They should require a "minimum specification" phone for more advanced games (i.e >=1Ghz, >=Adreno 205/SGX535, <=512Mb ram, < 800*600 pixels screen, etc).
No one would expect a game like Crysis, etc to run on an Atom CPU? Why should it be any different on mobile phones?
dopeee said:
I also think its quite difficult to develop games on the android due to the large range of resolutions and styles of each android phone. its a lot easier to develop a game if its based on a single type of phone with a single resolution - like the iphone is.
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iphone DO NOT HAVE Standard resolution any more
Iphone 4: Retina Display 640X960
Iphone 1/2/3: HVGA 320X480
and almost all android games can now run on QVGA/HVGA/WVGA without problems
it's just a developer thing...
bountygiver said:
iphone DO NOT HAVE Standard resolution
Iphone 4: Retina Display 640X960
Iphone 1/2/3: HVGA 320X480
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This is exactly 2x size of iP3. Also the screen in iP4 from the API is handled the same as iP3 (so the resolution is treated as 320x480) but on iP4 we can have half-pixels, thus we can display a small dot in the position 100.5 that has size of 0.5 pixel. So this is exactly the same screen from developer's point of view.
The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
zarpy said:
The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
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That's a really bad blanket statement. I think you missed the recent article that said the developer of Pocket Legends made more money on Android than iOS.
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/08/pocket-legends-developer-makes-more-money-on-android-than-on-ios/
RE the trailer:
The video was 98% renders from the PC and the other 3 seconds was from a phone, and it looked just as good as the best Android games.
zarpy said:
The problem is money. If there was infinity blade for android people will file-share instantly. Iphone there are jailbreakers , but most of iphone population doesnt mind paying for the game.
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Um... you never heard of Installous??? It's the one and only best iPhone black market app that provides the most convenient way of downloading pirated apps, where as for Android you need to rely on warez sites, then transferring them onto your device and then browse for it to install.
So technically the ratio of piracy on iOS is much much greater than Android. I haven't met a single person where I live that doesn't have Installous.
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Um... you never heard of Installous??? It's the one and only best iPhone black market app that provides the most convenient way of downloading pirated apps, where as for Android you need to rely on warez sites, then transferring them onto your device and then browse for it to install.
So technically the ratio of piracy on iOS is much much greater than Android. I haven't met a single person where I live that doesn't have Installous.
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I have a few friends with iPhones that pirate apps, and none of my friends with androids do. Also when it comes down to it iOS or Android, the majority of users aren't pirating apps.
You need to Jailbreak to use installous. You don't need root to install warez. Might affect your ratios...
Before i Jailbroke all my friends iDevices and showed them installous I didn't know anyone apart from myself that used installous. Cant really judge this just by the ppl around you.
All I can be sure of is what i know, and i know my inexperienced mind was much happier to install warez on my unrooted hero than it was to jailbreak my iPod touch.
It's really not safe to pirate apps on android. I remember one guy here reported that his phone got a virus because of installing pirated apps. That's why I don't think about pirating apps, and all the apps I need are free. :-D
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Its most definetly possible, infinity blade only looks good because they use normal mapping and other tricks to give a "hi-res" model look, the problem was there wasnt really any android game engines that easily support those features, and its only supported on open gls 2.0.
Unity3d for android has come out afew months ago for the public and it supports all the fancey extras to get that graphically edge, same with unreal 3 engine, dungeon defenders was done in that and it looks pretty damn good, but i dont know when the android version of U3 will be released.
Im currently developing a game in unity3d and im blown away with current tests to how powerful these devices actually are.
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Keep in mind infinity blade is a pretty crap game, swipe swipe swipe, repeat,
evilkorn said:
That's a really bad blanket statement. I think you missed the recent article that said the developer of Pocket Legends made more money on Android than iOS.
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/08/pocket-legends-developer-makes-more-money-on-android-than-on-ios/
RE the trailer:
The video was 98% renders from the PC and the other 3 seconds was from a phone, and it looked just as good as the best Android games.
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Did you read the whole articule before saying thats a bad statement. The articule tells you its an exception rather than the rule.
Look its very simple to understand. Developers will go where they will make the most money. Sure iphone has jailbreakers which I stated in my 1st post. But Android has easy file-sharing access. No developer will bust his a$$ just to make $100 off a game that takes him 6 months to make.
File-sharing is easy on android just like windows mobile 6,6.1, and 6.5 . Unless developers can make money the way they do in the iphone market , they will not make the games for Android. This is not opinion but plain real life facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM88uL5LB3E&context=C49788a9ADvjVQa1PpcFP3U3pMTYAB1aOu-Ydq0GTAjLHTNzgvp3g=
Android wins again
It is largely supported, customizable and fairly easy affordable compared to the two other large smart phone operating systems available
open source, lots of customization. fast. lots of variations.
Android supports powerful Handsets.
Android can run dirt3 on OnLive app on the market and other xbox games
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
the best
For me android is the best software that is ever made!!! its fast nice very customizable...
I agree. But I'm surprised more people aren't afraid of android, and google especially. They have too much power, and they're getting much more with this new google market. One day, everything we do will go through them.
Nothing is free.
lots of customization rom , open source can get or create many apps , and more free apps !!
Also on android its easy to get paid apps for free (i cant tell you how to get them because there everywhere).
Download onlive if you have a fast connection and try out dirt 3 or battlefield three. I advise you have a fast handset
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
I love android. I had an iPhone and its so boring.. and I feel like I'm watched
Android:
Very powerful
Open source
Highly customizable
Custom Roms, OS's
Overclocking
and it's just awesome
Customizations, open source, and like the way it's set up.
On a side note, I find it fascinating that most people that are touting the open source aspects of android are using windows or mac on their home pc. Android is afterall linux based.
Wider selection of hardware, and better bang for your buck.
Greater customizability.
Compared to iOS, user interface always ahead of the curve.
But the tradeoffs are significant too, let's not forget:
Too little product control on Google's part results in often bad or worse stock ROMs.
Too little standardization of hardware means bugs, glitches, and app compatibility issues galore.
Because of the above issue, app developers often only stick with iOS and never make Android ports of their products. (Probably most significant with games.)
ROM switching is not nearly as easy as it could be, and this is of most practical importance for the new user for whom it may be an intimidating and laborious process.
Because of the above issues, I do not begrudge iPhone users of their choice, despite the jacked up price, the fad-ness of the device, and the degree to which it's locked down.
For many people, the capabilities of stock iOS straight out of the sleek, stylish box provide basically all they need, and for these people dealing with the headaches of Android may not be worth it.
wolfen69 said:
On a side note, I find it fascinating that most people that are touting the open source aspects of android are using windows or mac on their home pc. Android is afterall linux based.
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I use my PC as my primary gaming platform. I could use a virtual machine, though plenty of games probably just would never work, in which case I'd have to use a dual boot and thus be using Windows anyway.
I would guess that's a common and reasonable excuse on here.
mattymillz said:
I love android. I had an iPhone and its so boring.. and I feel like I'm watched
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Now THAT is irony.
Agreed.. it keeps getting better.. lol
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Very bored for IP, Lov Android
DPMAce said:
I agree. But I'm surprised more people aren't afraid of android, and google especially. They have too much power, and they're getting much more with this new google market. One day, everything we do will go through them.
Nothing is free.
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LOL. Colorado government is switching from hundreds of outlook servers to google servers for emails and cloud storage/services. The takeover continues...
Anyhoo, I like Android for its general functionality of the OS and ease of access to toggles, running apps, and true multitasking. I recently purchased an iPhone 4S and while its a great device and very very customizable, I have come to the conclusion that navigating through Android just makes more sense. In addition, the lack of true multitasking on the iPhone is ridiculous. If I want to upload pictures to SugarSync, it will only do so while the app is in the foreground; thus, to upload 150 ~2.5 mb pics, I have to simply start the process and leave the phone alone til it finishes. Kinda silly.
Open source enough said
I think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
Android is #1
My main reason is because all of the emulators! i love having NES SNES GBC GBA N64 PS1 ATARTI SEGA GG, MASTER SYSTEM AND GENESIS. i have all of my favorite games, mario sonic zelda spyro dragon ballz z... its amazing you never get bored
Simple Android it's a future because it's open source
guys i love to play games on Mobiles phone
i have android phone sgs2 now i want to move on iphone 5 because of gaming capcom now releasing the tekken x street fighter for ios
i wonder that why gaming companies not release the best games for android on the other hand there are many greats game are releasing for ios
is android is not good as ios ?
is there something in android os which prevent gaming companies to release the games?
if some one explain it
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thanks
Piracy.
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Piracy. ?????
there has been couple of years of the generation of the iPhone...
that's why the iphone has more games suppot..
but now Android is getting more and more support
Piracy and Fragmentation.
Yes, I'm aware that there are strong cases that both those are mythical shortcomings, but they are the perception nonetheless.
Buy hox, Sony games soon
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So you're letting a single game impact your choice on what phone you are buying?
Most games released on iOS end up on Android now, just after a delay. But like other replies, there's big piracy thanks to native sideloading ability
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Piracy.
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Google Play license check on start up, problem solved. This can be kind of a pain for wifi only devices, maybe an email registration code could be used as well with only periodic online checks. Paid software still exists on Windows (desktop) despite it being just as easy to copy and load a program on another computer. Everything has some sort of online registration these days.
The real reason games appear on iOS quicker is because thinks are all optimized for one GPU type and up until recently one screen ratio. Many android games seem to have to port graphics to each GPU type (adreno, powervr, tegra, etc). I'm not familiar with how game deving works on android, but you'd think Google would have some universal graphics method like DirectX where GPU type doesn't matter.
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Google Play license check on start up, problem solved. This can be kind of a pain for wifi only devices, maybe an email registration code could be used as well with only periodic online checks. Paid software still exists on Windows (desktop) despite it being just as easy to copy and load a program on another computer. Everything has some sort of online registration these days.
The real reason games appear on iOS quicker is because thinks are all optimized for one GPU type and up until recently one screen ratio. Many android games seem to have to port graphics to each GPU type (adreno, powervr, tegra, etc). I'm not familiar with how game deving works on android, but you'd think Google would have some universal graphics method like DirectX where GPU type doesn't matter.
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is google have some universal graphics method like directX? or google will make it in feature?...OR this is only your thought?????
NOMIOMI said:
guys i love to play games on Mobiles phone
i have android phone sgs2 now i want to move on iphone 5 because of gaming capcom now releasing the tekken x street fighter for ios
i wonder that why gaming companies not release the best games for android on the other hand there are many greats game are releasing for ios
is android is not good as ios ?
is there something in android os which prevent gaming companies to release the games?
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There are 2 point of views, where you can estimate which is better: Android or iOS.
1) Developer/coder/publisher point of view. Here, in general, Android platform is more comfortable due to:
- More easy start develop and test application (in comparison with iOS)
- More wide range of available (and not ewxpensive) devices to test. In the same time this is negative factor: you need to ensure that your app runs fine on any device with any screen resolution.
- More adequate SDK help and a lot of resources in web for developers (Some Apple Help texts on their developer site has errors!)
- Post-moderation of uploaded applications (Apple uses pre-moderation model)
- Freedom for app design. Apple has large HIG document, and can refuse your app just because "it is not so fun"... Google Play not!
2) Seller point of view. Here iOS platfom is only and the best selection. I mean typical developer, not market sharks like Gameloft, etc...
There are a lot of statistics stated that ios market is better google in times! This kills all Android positive factors.
I want to port "Desperados Wanted Dead or Alive" and "Robin Hood the Legend of Sherwood" (two of my all time fav pc games) to Android. I used to spend so much time playing these games when I was a lil kid. Amazing games. Dont understand why they havent yet been ported to Android. I reckon they would sell a few millions on the GPlay if the pricing was right. (Profit guaranteed) I would definitely buy them if they were available on the GPlay. Anyway since they are not and probably never will, I am trying to find out how to port these games to android. Since they both are 2D point and click games they would be perfect to play on the android platform and also much easier to port to android than 3D pc games.
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I want to port "Desperados Wanted Dead or Alive" and "Robin Hood the Legend of Sherwood" (two of my all time fav pc games) to Android. I used to spend so much time playing these games when I was a lil kid. Amazing games. Dont understand why they havent yet been ported to Android. I reckon they would sell a few millions on the GPlay if the pricing was right. (Profit guaranteed) I would definitely buy them if they were available on the GPlay. Anyway since they are not and probably never will, I am trying to find out how to port these games to android. Since they both are 2D point and click games they would be perfect to play on the android platform and also much easier to port to android than 3D pc games.
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i'd like to see a port of gta2!!!
JamesDoakes said:
I want to port "Desperados Wanted Dead or Alive" and "Robin Hood the Legend of Sherwood" (two of my all time fav pc games) to Android. I used to spend so much time playing these games when I was a lil kid. Amazing games. Dont understand why they havent yet been ported to Android. I reckon they would sell a few millions on the GPlay if the pricing was right. (Profit guaranteed) I would definitely buy them if they were available on the GPlay. Anyway since they are not and probably never will, I am trying to find out how to port these games to android. Since they both are 2D point and click games they would be perfect to play on the android platform and also much easier to port to android than 3D pc games.
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If they are available on ps2 then you can download the roms of them (game .bin file) and run them in a PS2 emulator on android. Same with PSP games, there is PPSSPP!
You may find roms on coolrom.com!
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If they are available on ps2 then you can download the roms of them (game .bin file) and run them in a PS2 emulator on android. Same with PSP games, there is PPSSPP!
You may find roms on coolrom.com!
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They were released only for the pc.
Thanx for the suggestion though as I would love to play a few of my old ps2 games on android smartphone.
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I want to port "Desperados Wanted Dead or Alive" and "Robin Hood the Legend of Sherwood" (two of my all time fav pc games) to Android. I used to spend so much time playing these games when I was a lil kid. Amazing games. Dont understand why they havent yet been ported to Android. I reckon they would sell a few millions on the GPlay if the pricing was right. (Profit guaranteed) I would definitely buy them if they were available on the GPlay. Anyway since they are not and probably never will, I am trying to find out how to port these games to android. Since they both are 2D point and click games they would be perfect to play on the android platform and also much easier to port to android than 3D pc games.
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I don't know about these games. But if they are DOS based games (like Dangerous Dave, Digger, Prince, Prince of Persia),
then you can use DOSBox to play the games.
More information is at DOSBox Play Store Page here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fishstix.dosbox
Even if these games are not for DOS, you seem to be a person interested in old games (just like me). Then you can play those charming old games on DOSBox.
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Dangerous Dave
Dangerous Dave is already on Google Play, it's pretty good too.
Hello,
I've recently created different flappy bird clones and tried to jump on the flappy bird train, but it didn't work out, as there simply is too much competition.
I wonder if creating apps for android is profitable for small developers anyway. Are there any suggestions on which kind of games to focus? Which genres are you targeting on?
What are your experiences with casual games?
Everyone likes high end graphics games.... but so far the only game i havent seen on the play store... its a soccer game...fifa 15 & 16 just sucks... cant play international games ect... maybe a worl cup game with narrators? Since its just around the corner!!.. & maybe charge $5 bucks for it..
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The thing is, as a single developer, I can't afford high end graphics. So I'm looking for market gaps.
Never thought of a football game... I might give it a try, thanks.
Simple games sometimes do very well. Look at flappy bird. I would go for a simple game with simple easy to understand input.
Phone games are meant to kill time. Make a game that requires no skill at all.
Side scrolling 2d games....that have a storyline!
There is no silver bullet. You could never know which one will be hyped.
If you have a lot of money to spend on marketing you can sell any game, otherwise it doesn't matter if your game has high- or low-end graphics. If some people start to play with it and start to share it you'll win
Just make games you would like to play with
jglm4u,
Its too hard to develop soccer games on android and need expensive licenses for stars like messi or ronaldo.