Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Don't have a definitive answer but it's not likely. Carrier Branded devices are firmly opposed to giving their customers alternative network options. That's the same reason all US devices are single sim.
it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
https://imgur.com/a/AySogpp
More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
on samsung dot com, it said esim supported.
cjegan2008 said:
More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
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Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
mindseye0803 said:
it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
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Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
VICosPhi said:
Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
Yes it does support it, and I can use it on AT&T. However, only after flashing the U1 firmware and it being carrier unlocked did it work.
Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
This is true, it is supported. A lot of product reps don't really know much.
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S20 range has esim support - so it would make sense that s21 has it too - is not like it cost them more
the Q is whether or not your carrier supports it and most likely NO
at least here in UK no major career supports it yet or plans too
LTE Smart watches? Voda now supports https://newscentre.vodafone.co.uk/news/esim-support-comes-to-vodafone-uk-smartphones/ for certain phones S21 included
I spoke to Samsung on the phone yesterday about this. I ordered the S21U 512gb (brown) unlocked version and they said it’s esim + nano sim. For what it’s worth, it took three different people to get an answer on that and I’m not even convinced they knew for sure.
I don’t understand why Samsung is being weird about the specs...
Guys, please remember that Samsung uses AI Chat bots and the cheapest 3rd world labor for their support. Don't take ANYTHING they say as gospel, until you see it for yourself.
I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
ekerbuddyeker said:
I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
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I was just told yesterday by their Twitter team that the phone doesn't have DSDS but you can activate either the eSIM or nano SIM with only one activated at a time. The phone support team (E-commerce) told me very clearly that it IS dual-SIM DSDS. This is becoming more confusing as time goes on.
Sorry for off-topic, but, if supported, does eSIM consume more battery than nano SIM? Does eSIM have any impact on battery?
This is called Bait and switch, and is against the law. It clearly states on the S21 US website (https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s21-5g/#!) under FAQ "
Do Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G support eSIM?
Yes, you can use an electronic SIM, known as eSIM, with Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G. The eSIM allows you to activate a mobile network plan right on your phone, so you can switch data plans or add an overseas phone number without the physical Nano SIM."
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
ernstgot said:
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
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How did this harm you or impact you financially? Because without that, you don't have any basis for a class action suit. ****ty of Samsung to do, but that has nothing to do with the law.
Just got my S21 Ultra. UK, 512GB model, and it's dual sim, but doesn't seem to support eSim as well. I'm happy with dual sim
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A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Samsung dual sim unlocked model is usually have FD instead of U or F. There may be carrier dual sim idk.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
North American markets do not typically carry dual-sim Samsung phones.
shook187 said:
How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Same with Best Buy, Single SIM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-s9-64gb-unlocked-lilac-purple/6191424.p?skuId=6191424
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
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Yep, it's never easy getting a straight answer from their 500 station call center in India!
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
uzupan said:
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
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The US unlocked version will share the same as the previous unlocked devices
https://tinyurl.com/y7xgmtlo
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Unlocked SIM
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Now that's funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKI7RIpZFQ
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I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
iamrobk said:
Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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I feel the same way. If the device wasnt region specific to the US I'd say it would have a fighting chance. Especially if it were India/Asia. I'm not aware of a native CDMA USA device with Dual SIM.
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I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Here's why it's shady. Before you pre-order, Samsung's website only provides general features about the device. After you pay, only then can you download or view a Users Manual on Samsung's website. There are many variants with Galaxy devices and you should have the right to know what the features and capabilities are BEFORE you pay for the device.
No, unlocked as in SIM unlocked.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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Not sure why you think this is shady. Typically, unless it specifically states Dual SIM, you should always assume it's a single one. The dual ones are not very common in the USA at all so why would the unlocked version be dual?
I could have sworn when I first looked at the specs on the Samsung site before I did a pre-order it listed the device as being Dual SIM. Maybe they just had a generic spec list that included specs for International variants, but I was under the impression that it would be Dual SIM. That might be why the person above thought it would be as well.
heh... not sure why you feel it's shady. Dual sim phones are 90% all the time international models. US models are single sim, unless otherwise specified.
Hi
1. I am looking at purchasing two Samsung Galaxy S9+ Plus (256 GB) G965FD Dual Sim (SIM-Free / Unlocked) phones from a UK company in Leeds UK called Empire Hut. They are imports and are sourced from the UAE and are brand new sealed boxed. The company (Empire Hut) give a two year warranty but if there is a problem it is handled by them who send to/from Samsung. I have no problem with that.
I will be putting them on the a BT SIM only (4GB) contract because I am already with them and can get a good family deal at £10 monthly for the 1st SIM and £8 for second SIM.
Some questions if I may!
a). I live in a very poor signal area and will be using Wifi calling always in the house. Both phones we have at present are Samsung S7's and work successful in this mode in my house. Also looking at the BT site they list many phones that do support wifi calling and list the S9+
I asked Empire Hut if they knew if these imports (G965FD Dual Sim)(different supporting configuration) would work using Wifi calling, because it is important to my wife and myself that they do. The operative did not know the answer and would not commit herself in chat. I also asked the new guy in the new Samsung shop just opened in Reading Berkshire and he is fairly sure it does. Does anyone on this forum know for certain because they already do it?, Perhaps I am being overcautious with this question? Belt and braces so to speak.
b). Browsing the internet (as one does), I did read somewhere that the ROM versions are different (region specific) and certain payment systems (samsung pay) will not work. This is not important to me and is not a show stopper.
c). Also searching I saw mentioned (sorry no link) that I may not be able to update this android system (regional differences) with the latest patches. Has anyone any information on whether this is true or false?
I would be most grateful if anyone can advise on these 3 questions and also if anyone has knowledge of any other potential pitfalls (if any) operating this UAE version of the S9+ in the UK. Extensive searching reveals nothing.
I look forward gratefully to any replies.
Kind regards and Thank you.
Peter
Broadmarsh said:
Hi
1. I am looking at purchasing two Samsung Galaxy S9+ Plus (256 GB) G965FD Dual Sim (SIM-Free / Unlocked) phones from a UK company in Leeds UK called Empire Hut. They are imports and are sourced from the UAE and are brand new sealed boxed. The company (Empire Hut) give a two year warranty but if there is a problem it is handled by them who send to/from Samsung. I have no problem with that.
I will be putting them on the a BT SIM only (4GB) contract because I am already with them and can get a good family deal at £10 monthly for the 1st SIM and £8 for second SIM.
Some questions if I may!
a). I live in a very poor signal area and will be using Wifi calling always in the house. Both phones we have at present are Samsung S7's and work successful in this mode in my house. Also looking at the BT site they list many phones that do support wifi calling and list the S9+
I asked Empire Hut if they knew if these imports (G965FD Dual Sim)(different supporting configuration) would work using Wifi calling, because it is important to my wife and myself that they do. The operative did not know the answer and would not commit herself in chat. I also asked the new guy in the new Samsung shop just opened in Reading Berkshire and he is fairly sure it does. Does anyone on this forum know for certain because they already do it?, Perhaps I am being overcautious with this question? Belt and braces so to speak.
b). Browsing the internet (as one does), I did read somewhere that the ROM versions are different (region specific) and certain payment systems (samsung pay) will not work. This is not important to me and is not a show stopper.
c). Also searching I saw mentioned (sorry no link) that I may not be able to update this android system (regional differences) with the latest patches. Has anyone any information on whether this is true or false?
I would be most grateful if anyone can advise on these 3 questions and also if anyone has knowledge of any other potential pitfalls (if any) operating this UAE version of the S9+ in the UK. Extensive searching reveals nothing.
I look forward gratefully to any replies.
Kind regards and Thank you.
Peter
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I bought the S9+ 256GB Dual SIM in Dubai. Thing is that you'll have to flash any Official ROM from your region that supports VoLTE/WiFi calling, because the ROM from UAE (XSG) has VoLTE and WiFi calling disabled by software.
I've tried everything and only flashing Indian (INS) ROM solved it (I live in Argentina and here Samsung sells Snapdragon version, instead of Exynos one).
My case flashing INS Official ROM didn't trip Knox, and flashing official ROMs without any customization shouldn't trip it. But have in mind it can happen (read a couple of people had that). So do it at your own risk and only flash it with ODIN.
I think you'll have to flash BTU ROM in order to have your region stuff (VoLTE, WiFi calling, Samsung Pay)
Oh, about updates don't worry, unless you root your phone ot flash any custom ROM, you'll continue getting updates for your phone via OTA.
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Broadmarsh said:
Hi
1. I am looking at purchasing two Samsung Galaxy S9+ Plus (256 GB) G965FD Dual Sim (SIM-Free / Unlocked) phones from a UK company in Leeds UK called Empire Hut. They are imports and are sourced from the UAE and are brand new sealed boxed. The company (Empire Hut) give a two year warranty but if there is a problem it is handled by them who send to/from Samsung. I have no problem with that.
I will be putting them on the a BT SIM only (4GB) contract because I am already with them and can get a good family deal at £10 monthly for the 1st SIM and £8 for second SIM.
Some questions if I may!
a). I live in a very poor signal area and will be using Wifi calling always in the house. Both phones we have at present are Samsung S7's and work successful in this mode in my house. Also looking at the BT site they list many phones that do support wifi calling and list the S9+
I asked Empire Hut if they knew if these imports (G965FD Dual Sim)(different supporting configuration) would work using Wifi calling, because it is important to my wife and myself that they do. The operative did not know the answer and would not commit herself in chat. I also asked the new guy in the new Samsung shop just opened in Reading Berkshire and he is fairly sure it does. Does anyone on this forum know for certain because they already do it?, Perhaps I am being overcautious with this question? Belt and braces so to speak.
b). Browsing the internet (as one does), I did read somewhere that the ROM versions are different (region specific) and certain payment systems (samsung pay) will not work. This is not important to me and is not a show stopper.
c). Also searching I saw mentioned (sorry no link) that I may not be able to update this android system (regional differences) with the latest patches. Has anyone any information on whether this is true or false?
I would be most grateful if anyone can advise on these 3 questions and also if anyone has knowledge of any other potential pitfalls (if any) operating this UAE version of the S9+ in the UK. Extensive searching reveals nothing.
I look forward gratefully to any replies.
Kind regards and Thank you.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
You're in luck since the UAE S9+ is NOT region locked, which means as soon as you insert a British SIM card, the device will prompt you to reset it, which will change the devices CSC (Carrier Specific Customization) to UK Unlocked, once the phone restarts and you set it up, it will function as if it was an S9+ bought directly from Samsung UK.
Question 1) The S9+ sure does support both VoLTE and WiFi calling, as long as you activate the phone with a British SIM card, and then do a factory reset right after, you'll get WiFi calling.
Question 2 and 3) Yes, they are technically different. Since the UK and UAE have a slightly different update schedule, you will have to manually flash your device to the latest UK firmware to continue getting software updates as they are released for the UK.
After converting your devices CSC to UK as I mentioned in the answer to your first question, you'll have to flash this UK firmware:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603871251
The tutorial for which can be found in my thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ficial-stock-firmware-thread-samsung-t3764479
Let me know if you didn't understand any part of my post, and I'd be happy to clarify anything.
MeltdownSpectre said:
Hi Peter,
You're in luck since the UAE S9+ is NOT region locked, which means as soon as you insert a British SIM card, the device will prompt you to reset it, which will change the devices CSC (Carrier Specific Customization) to UK Unlocked, once the phone restarts and you set it up, it will function as if it was an S9+ bought directly from Samsung UK.
Question 1) The S9+ sure does support both VoLTE and WiFi calling, as long as you activate the phone with a British SIM card, and then do a factory reset right after, you'll get WiFi calling.
Question 2 and 3) Yes, they are technically different. Since the UK and UAE have a slightly different update schedule, you will have to manually flash your device to the latest UK firmware to continue getting software updates as they are released for the UK.
After converting your devices CSC to UK as I mentioned in the answer to your first question, you'll have to flash this UK firmware:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603871251
The tutorial for which can be found in my thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ficial-stock-firmware-thread-samsung-t3764479
Let me know if you didn't understand any part of my post, and I'd be happy to clarify anything.
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. You have covered all my questions that has made me review my thinking.
I was not specifically wanting a dual SIM card option phone, it was just that the larger storage of 256gb for the S9 Plus from UAE came with that option and was a reasonable price.
Going through all the hoops is not appropriate for myself and my wife when a single SIM phone will do nicely and fits our needs, so I have decided not to go forward with getting one from UAE, but get a 64gb European version one (G965FZKADBT) that is sold by Debenhams UK and fit it with a Samsung Mobile UK 128 GB 100 MB/s Class 10 U3 Memory Evo Plus MicroSD card, or even a 256gb card.
Taking this route is only £20 more per phone. Hardly worth worrying about, given that I get the full support from Samsung UK where it is sourced from. Samsung do not make a 64gb version for the UK market, only a 128gb version. They know that anyone in the whole of the EU can source that smaller 64gb size (with the german code ADBT) from the EU and fit with the appropriate size memory card. I spoke to debenhams who spoke to Samsung to confirm.
As a matter of interest the prices for the S9+ are as follows:
From UAE are £569 (128gb) and £599 (256gb). (no Samsung support) (I can sell my phone on ebay for £140)
From Samsung with UK firmware £769 (128gb) Can get £150 cash back for S7 phone = £619). (with UK support).
From Debenhams UK with EU software (identical software as UK) it is £599 (64gb). I can fit this with a 128gb card at £20 (totals £619) or £41 for a 256gb card (total £640). Also I can get £140 for my S7s.
Do you have any comments on this? How about micro SD cards for 4k recording or 1080p?
Thanks again.
Peter
Broadmarsh said:
Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. You have covered all my questions that has made me review my thinking.
I was not specifically wanting a dual SIM card option phone, it was just that the larger storage of 256gb for the S9 Plus from UAE came with that option and was a reasonable price.
Going through all the hoops is not appropriate for myself and my wife when a single SIM phone will do nicely and fits our needs, so I have decided not to go forward with getting one from UAE, but get a 64gb European version one (G965FZKADBT) that is sold by Debenhams UK and fit it with a Samsung Mobile UK 128 GB 100 MB/s Class 10 U3 Memory Evo Plus MicroSD card, or even a 256gb card.
Taking this route is only £20 more per phone. Hardly worth worrying about, given that I get the full support from Samsung UK where it is sourced from. Samsung do not make a 64gb version for the UK market, only a 128gb version. They know that anyone in the whole of the EU can source that smaller 64gb size (with the german code ADBT) from the EU and fit with the appropriate size memory card. I spoke to debenhams who spoke to Samsung to confirm.
As a matter of interest the prices for the S9+ are as follows:
From UAE are £569 (128gb) and £599 (256gb). (no Samsung support) (I can sell my phone on ebay for £140)
From Samsung with UK firmware £769 (128gb) Can get £150 cash back for S7 phone = £619). (with UK support).
From Debenhams UK with EU software (identical software as UK) it is £599 (64gb). I can fit this with a 128gb card at £20 (totals £619) or £41 for a 256gb card (total £640). Also I can get £140 for my S7s.
Do you have any comments on this? How about micro SD cards for 4k recording or 1080p?
Thanks again.
Peter
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Go with whatever route is cheapest for you, since all the phones are the same.
I went with the 64 GB S9+ and I've got a 64 GB SDCard in it. Plenty of storage for me and I'm not even close to occupying all of it.
I'm not sure if Samsung allows 4K recording to SDCards, however 1080p should be fine. You can record 4K to internal storage and then shift to SDCard after you're done.
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MeltdownSpectre said:
Go with whatever route is cheapest for you, since all the phones are the same.
I went with the 64 GB S9+ and I've got a 64 GB SDCard in it. Plenty of storage for me and I'm not even close to occupying all of it.
I'm not sure if Samsung allows 4K recording to SDCards, however 1080p should be fine. You can record 4K to internal storage and then shift to SDCard after you're done.
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Thanks!
1. When you say this, are you saying the path/route is fixed by internal coding or is it down to the detection of the type of memory or the flash memory speed?
2. Once shifted to a microsd card, presumably it play it from there?
3. I have experience of a microSD UHS memory card, because I purchased a larger one( to V30 standard) from DELKIN to use on my Dashcam because I saw errors with a lower standard card.
4. On the subject of memory types, do you have any recommendations for memory types/standards? I would be after the fastest. I do understand the differences and classes?
Kind regards and thanks again.
Peter
Broadmarsh said:
Thanks!
1. When you say this, are you saying the path/route is fixed by internal coding or is it down to the detection of the type of memory or the flash memory speed?
2. Once shifted to a microsd card, presumably it play it from there?
3. I have experience of a microSD UHS memory card, because I purchased a larger one( to V30 standard) from DELKIN to use on my Dashcam because I saw errors with a lower standard card.
4. On the subject of memory types and so forth, presumably there is an online .pdf for the S9+ that I can download? If so could you point me in that direction.
Kind regards and thanks again.
Peter
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1) I believe fixed by internal coding. Don't think the phone can detect the type of SDCard inserted, although I could be wrong.
2) Yes.
4) Not that I know of. Most newer class 10 and UHS-1 cards should work fine. To rule out any compatibility issues, grab yourself a Samsung EVO SDcard and use that.
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1)
4) Not that I know of. Most newer class 10 and UHS-1 cards should work fine. To rule out any compatibility issues, grab yourself a Samsung EVO SDcard and use that.
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Yes I have been looking at that!
Thanks.
Broadmarsh said:
Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. You have covered all my questions that has made me review my thinking.
I was not specifically wanting a dual SIM card option phone, it was just that the larger storage of 256gb for the S9 Plus from UAE came with that option and was a reasonable price.
Going through all the hoops is not appropriate for myself and my wife when a single SIM phone will do nicely and fits our needs, so I have decided not to go forward with getting one from UAE, but get a 64gb European version one (G965FZKADBT) that is sold by Debenhams UK and fit it with a Samsung Mobile UK 128 GB 100 MB/s Class 10 U3 Memory Evo Plus MicroSD card, or even a 256gb card.
Taking this route is only £20 more per phone. Hardly worth worrying about, given that I get the full support from Samsung UK where it is sourced from. Samsung do not make a 64gb version for the UK market, only a 128gb version. They know that anyone in the whole of the EU can source that smaller 64gb size (with the german code ADBT) from the EU and fit with the appropriate size memory card. I spoke to debenhams who spoke to Samsung to confirm.
As a matter of interest the prices for the S9+ are as follows:
From UAE are £569 (128gb) and £599 (256gb). (no Samsung support) (I can sell my phone on ebay for £140)
From Samsung with UK firmware £769 (128gb) Can get £150 cash back for S7 phone = £619). (with UK support).
From Debenhams UK with EU software (identical software as UK) it is £599 (64gb). I can fit this with a 128gb card at £20 (totals £619) or £41 for a 256gb card (total £640). Also I can get £140 for my S7s.
Do you have any comments on this? How about micro SD cards for 4k recording or 1080p?
Thanks again.
Peter
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You are buying it too expensive. Look around, s9 should not be more than 500 gbp and s9+ 579.
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omeryounos said:
You are buying it too expensive. Look around, s9 should not be more than 500 gbp and s9+ 579.
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Not really. I am not interested in the S9 and I have misquoted for th S9+. It should read, £589 from 3 separate vendors. I consider within £10 is OK when I can pick up the phone and ask relevant question. Anyway at no time was I was asking forum members where I could get it cheaper.
Thank you very much for your interest in my financial circumstances.
Have a nice day.
sentinelvdx said:
I bought the S9+ 256GB Dual SIM in Dubai. Thing is that you'll have to flash any Official ROM from your region that supports VoLTE/WiFi calling, because the ROM from UAE (XSG) has VoLTE and WiFi calling disabled by software.
I've tried everything and only flashing Indian (INS) ROM solved it (I live in Argentina and here Samsung sells Snapdragon version, instead of Exynos one).
My case flashing INS Official ROM didn't trip Knox, and flashing official ROMs without any customization shouldn't trip it. But have in mind it can happen (read a couple of people had that). So do it at your own risk and only flash it with ODIN.
I think you'll have to flash BTU ROM in order to have your region stuff (VoLTE, WiFi calling, Samsung Pay)
Oh, about updates don't worry, unless you root your phone ot flash any custom ROM, you'll continue getting updates for your phone via OTA.
Sent from S.G. S9+ Duos
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Do you mean to say that the Indian ROM fixes VoLTE with an Argentine SIM card? Very interesting!
duraaraa said:
Do you mean to say that the Indian ROM fixes VoLTE with an Argentine SIM card? Very interesting!
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Yes, but ensure mobile carrier enables it for your number. It not ensbled by default
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duraaraa said:
Do you mean to say that the Indian ROM fixes VoLTE with an Argentine SIM card? Very interesting!
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Forgive me, what has this got to do with my original question? Gone off topic I would say.
I was in touch with samsung support. They said that unlike the note 20, the s21 unlocked has noth Esim and standard sim and can be set up as a dual sim.
I find it hard to believe it's true. anyone have the unlocked version yet can tell us?
ekerbuddyeker said:
I was in touch with samsung support. They said that unlike the note 20, the s21 unlocked has noth Esim and standard sim and can be set up as a dual sim.
I find it hard to believe it's true. anyone have the unlocked version yet can tell us?
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Came here for this
Customer service rep is like asking a random person on street though.
Said it before, I'll say it again:
Guys, please remember that Samsung uses AI Chat bots and the cheapest 3rd world labor for their support. Don't take ANYTHING they say as gospel, until you see it for yourself.
No eSIM; received the phone today. US unlocked, no eSIM options. Do not believe Samsung.
I am ready to file a class action suit against them for "Bait and Switch" as they have now done this with both the S20 and the S21
I see that B&H Photo sells XQ-BC62 model in US as "Sony XPERIA 1 III Dual-SIM 256GB 5G Smartphone (Unlocked)", i.e. the dual-SIM capability is explicitly claimed.
Meanwhile other US web sites (e.g. BestBuy) also sell XQ-BC62 model in US without mentioning the dual-SIM capability.
So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
I understand that Sony devices whose designation begins with X are supposed to be dual-SIM, at least hardware-wise. But there could be software differences, right? Or not?
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A more specific question that interests me is about future AT&T compatibility. The AT&T's compatibility list clams support for XQ-BC62. So, does it mean that the dual-SIM phone from B&H is going to be supported? Or is there a chance that it will stop working on AT&T network after February 2022, despite being on the list?
Uh... Sorry. My mistake. BestBuy page also says it is dual-SIM. Missed it.
Everything's clear now.
TheKorbenDallas said:
So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
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As shown on GSM Arena, all model numbers of the Xperia 1 iii are hybrids. That means they have one regular sim slot and one sim/sd card slot even though only one of the two sim cards can use 5G at one time.
I did have the same experience when ordering my Xperia 10 III. On the website I ordered from. It said it would only have one sim slot. But I did some research and found out it was a hybrid, which I did confirm on delivery.
TheKorbenDallas said:
Uh... Sorry. My mistake. BestBuy page also says it is dual-SIM. Missed it.
Everything's clear now.
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Oops, I did not see your reply, lol. But hope my answer did still help you in any way.
bc62 is dual sim
TheKorbenDallas said:
I see that B&H Photo sells XQ-BC62 model in US as "Sony XPERIA 1 III Dual-SIM 256GB 5G Smartphone (Unlocked)", i.e. the dual-SIM capability is explicitly claimed.
Meanwhile other US web sites (e.g. BestBuy) also sell XQ-BC62 model in US without mentioning the dual-SIM capability.
So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
I understand that Sony devices whose designation begins with X are supposed to be dual-SIM, at least hardware-wise. But there could be software differences, right? Or not?
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A more specific question that interests me is about future AT&T compatibility. The AT&T's compatibility list clams support for XQ-BC62. So, does it mean that the dual-SIM phone from B&H is going to be supported? Or is there a chance that it will stop working on AT&T network after February 2022, despite being on the list?
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Don't count on Telco support improving. All Sony needs to do is update the firmware but that hasn't happened. Only upstream security patches and critical bug fixes (boot loops, firmware self-destruct, and dangerous overheating) have been released. I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes.
"I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes."
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Don't count on Telco support improving. All Sony needs to do is update the firmware but that hasn't happened. Only upstream security patches and critical bug fixes (boot loops, firmware self-destruct, and dangerous overheating) have been released. I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes.
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Would you be kind enough to elaborate? I own this phone, and though I choose to run Nova Prime, I have no usability or performance issues at all!
jaseman said:
"I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes."
Would you be kind enough to elaborate? I own this phone, and though I choose to run Nova Prime, I have no usability or performance issues at all!
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I put a post at https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xperia-1-iii-and-xperia-pro-i-fatal-flaws.4374813/post-86157973
Many countries are releasing phones with dual sim, but there are some countries like Japan that does not provide dual sim, Many phones in Japan does not support dual sim.
Hello,
The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is supporting DUAL SIM DUAL ACTIVE (DSDA) . The question is the galaxy s23 ultra have that feature ?
if not , why ? and how to enable it .
Thank you
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
hoss_n2 said:
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
fal4fal said:
Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
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They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
jcsww said:
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
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Eu regions support dual standby SIM not dual active SIM
hoss_n2 said:
They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
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Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
But take care pro
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fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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thanks bro. the issue i will get it thru installment . that's why i don't think i can get it from china for the time being. Will wait and hopefully will hear good news .
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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Seeing how that person is in Pasadena, CA, I question if it has to be the Chinese model.
It's stupid if Samsung doesn't support DSDA but I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't really affect me, as I use one SIM for calls and text and the other for data.
Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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Have you tried Modded Odin?
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Have you tried Modded Odin?
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
How to flash a different model firmware (i.e. SM908E onto a phone currently running SM9080)
Hi everyone, I do have a Snapdragon S22 Ultra that is currently running SM9080. However, non of the CSC versions available for this firmware has eSim support. Therefore I would like to try flashing the SM908E firmware (which should have eSim...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
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Interesting. This year though, no Exynos might be the game changer. EU firmware tends to be a lot more friendly for North American use from my experiences flashing OnePlus devices. This is my first Samsung since the Note 9 though. Definitely looking forward to some flashing goodness once developers start taking an interest in the S23 devices.
Edit: T-Mobile should get me my SIM unlock by launch day so I am definitely interested in trying once the SIM lock is gone on my device.
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
DarkenMoon said:
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
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It is also region dependent on one plus 11 you have to get Chinese version & unfortunately this year Chinese oneplus 11 units are region locked & cant make phone calls outside china
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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Because carriers want to make your life miserable.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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eSIM is illegal in China.