I see that B&H Photo sells XQ-BC62 model in US as "Sony XPERIA 1 III Dual-SIM 256GB 5G Smartphone (Unlocked)", i.e. the dual-SIM capability is explicitly claimed.
Meanwhile other US web sites (e.g. BestBuy) also sell XQ-BC62 model in US without mentioning the dual-SIM capability.
So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
I understand that Sony devices whose designation begins with X are supposed to be dual-SIM, at least hardware-wise. But there could be software differences, right? Or not?
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A more specific question that interests me is about future AT&T compatibility. The AT&T's compatibility list clams support for XQ-BC62. So, does it mean that the dual-SIM phone from B&H is going to be supported? Or is there a chance that it will stop working on AT&T network after February 2022, despite being on the list?
Uh... Sorry. My mistake. BestBuy page also says it is dual-SIM. Missed it.
Everything's clear now.
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So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
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As shown on GSM Arena, all model numbers of the Xperia 1 iii are hybrids. That means they have one regular sim slot and one sim/sd card slot even though only one of the two sim cards can use 5G at one time.
I did have the same experience when ordering my Xperia 10 III. On the website I ordered from. It said it would only have one sim slot. But I did some research and found out it was a hybrid, which I did confirm on delivery.
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Uh... Sorry. My mistake. BestBuy page also says it is dual-SIM. Missed it.
Everything's clear now.
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Oops, I did not see your reply, lol. But hope my answer did still help you in any way.
bc62 is dual sim
TheKorbenDallas said:
I see that B&H Photo sells XQ-BC62 model in US as "Sony XPERIA 1 III Dual-SIM 256GB 5G Smartphone (Unlocked)", i.e. the dual-SIM capability is explicitly claimed.
Meanwhile other US web sites (e.g. BestBuy) also sell XQ-BC62 model in US without mentioning the dual-SIM capability.
So, is XQ-BC62 sold in the US a dual-SIM phone or not?
I understand that Sony devices whose designation begins with X are supposed to be dual-SIM, at least hardware-wise. But there could be software differences, right? Or not?
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A more specific question that interests me is about future AT&T compatibility. The AT&T's compatibility list clams support for XQ-BC62. So, does it mean that the dual-SIM phone from B&H is going to be supported? Or is there a chance that it will stop working on AT&T network after February 2022, despite being on the list?
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Don't count on Telco support improving. All Sony needs to do is update the firmware but that hasn't happened. Only upstream security patches and critical bug fixes (boot loops, firmware self-destruct, and dangerous overheating) have been released. I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes.
"I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes."
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Don't count on Telco support improving. All Sony needs to do is update the firmware but that hasn't happened. Only upstream security patches and critical bug fixes (boot loops, firmware self-destruct, and dangerous overheating) have been released. I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes.
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Would you be kind enough to elaborate? I own this phone, and though I choose to run Nova Prime, I have no usability or performance issues at all!
jaseman said:
"I haven't seen any badly needed performance or usability fixes."
Would you be kind enough to elaborate? I own this phone, and though I choose to run Nova Prime, I have no usability or performance issues at all!
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I put a post at https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xperia-1-iii-and-xperia-pro-i-fatal-flaws.4374813/post-86157973
Many countries are releasing phones with dual sim, but there are some countries like Japan that does not provide dual sim, Many phones in Japan does not support dual sim.
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I'm thinking of picking up a Z5 Compact for my switch to AT&T. But which model should I get?
I already know that the E5823 supports cat 6 LTE while the E5803 only supports cat 4 (which I don't care about) and that both models will work in the US, but I'm more curious on the software update front. Since the E5803 is obviously an older batch, will it get updated less frequently and have less dev support than the E5823? Are mods and roms between the two models different?
I'm only asking since I can get the E5803 for $20-$30 cheaper on Amazon and is eligible for Prime shipping, while the E5823 is more expensive and doesn't have Prime shipping. I'd like to go the cheaper and faster route if possible.
The 5823 is the International version, the 5803 is the US version. The US version has the fingerprint sensor disabled. You can flash different firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working, I've read. I bought the International version. Works just fine here in South Carolina.
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bigdfmartin said:
The 5823 is the International version, the 5803 is the US version. The US version has the fingerprint sensor disabled. You can flash different firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working, I've read. I bought the International version. Works just fine here in South Carolina.
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That's weird, the E8503 on Amazon that's cheap claims to be an international version and has no warranty. I'll investigate further. It is tempting to get the US version and enable the fingerprint sensor just for the warranty though. I want a fingerprint sensor, that's the only reason I'm going for the Z5C over something like a Z3 or any other last generation flagship.
I see the listing you're talking about. Judging from the comments and Q&A, it's not really clear which model it is. If the US warranty is important to you, you may need to make sure you can return it if it is the wrong model. From what I've read about Sony service, though (especially here in the US), you're probably gonna be frustrated if you ever need to use it.
I opted for the International version so that the fingerprint sensor would work right out of the box. I've owned several Sony and Sony-Ericcson phones and never had any problems with them. I've rooted and flashed all of them except for my Z5c because it's already very capable unmodded,, the firmware is still current, and I didn't want to lose the DRM keys.
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I went for the international the day the US version came out as it was cheaper and had fingerprint scanner. Now that we know the only difference between the two is software you should just get whatever is cheapest.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/zteusainc/m...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
They still sell it on the regular website and Best Buy and New Egg are still selling them on ebay. But this is very interesting that they have stopped selling it on ebay.
If they don't have any stock, how would they be running anything on eBay? I don't think ebay lets you run pre-orders and such. I'd bet it will come back up when stock arrive shortly.
It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
how is that the U model is better then G?
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how is that the U model is better then G?
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Easy for Unlock bootloader and easy to fix soft-brick , probably more buy those 2 comes first!!
oh ok , now that they halt the sale outside us ,seem like its just for you guys , well it should promote more and increase the community , frankly speaking just this year i heard of this brand , hmmm where has it been all these years
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It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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The G model has a lower volume cap, possibly due to EU regulations, while the U model has a much higher cap. The G model also seems to have more issues with bootloader unlocking, while the U model is pretty straight forward.
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Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
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Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
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Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
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That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
Seems that many of you forget that having US version in Europe you are out of warranty.
To many customers warranty is very important to them.
Also EU has 3 years warranty policy while US 2 years.
I'm having a month now both gold and gray G version and no reception /WiFi issue at all.
Compared to my S7 Edge the call reception is the same level and WiFi is better.
Also G version will have in coming weeks official root and boot loader unlocked from ZTE without loosing the warranty.
Even that US version is getting first the official software updates it's just matter of time(less than 1 month) until G version also received the software update for the specific region(Europe)
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Just curious does the u model comes from the ZTE USA down in texas? I presumed warranty is by them as well?
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That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
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You could be right. That's how the world works. You also are not enemy of your money as well as no one else.
Regarding the price I would say that EU price contains the average 21% EU VAT. So it means that price of EU version would be between $410 or 415 in US. So it is not a big deal. Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
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No, bad band support.
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Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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They do. Just not on specific electronics like Notebooks, Computer Hardware, Cell phones etc
Oddly enough, amazon has also stopped selling the phone. I guess it could just be sold out though.
Hm, still "in stock" at amazon.com:
https://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Axon-unl...TF8&qid=1476347129&sr=8-3&keywords=zte+axon+7
Amazon.com has gold for $399.98, but the grey (which is what I want...) is $479.00. What gives???
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Samsung dual sim unlocked model is usually have FD instead of U or F. There may be carrier dual sim idk.
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A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
North American markets do not typically carry dual-sim Samsung phones.
shook187 said:
How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Same with Best Buy, Single SIM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-s9-64gb-unlocked-lilac-purple/6191424.p?skuId=6191424
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
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Yep, it's never easy getting a straight answer from their 500 station call center in India!
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
uzupan said:
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
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The US unlocked version will share the same as the previous unlocked devices
https://tinyurl.com/y7xgmtlo
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Unlocked SIM
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Now that's funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKI7RIpZFQ
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I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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I feel the same way. If the device wasnt region specific to the US I'd say it would have a fighting chance. Especially if it were India/Asia. I'm not aware of a native CDMA USA device with Dual SIM.
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I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Here's why it's shady. Before you pre-order, Samsung's website only provides general features about the device. After you pay, only then can you download or view a Users Manual on Samsung's website. There are many variants with Galaxy devices and you should have the right to know what the features and capabilities are BEFORE you pay for the device.
No, unlocked as in SIM unlocked.
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A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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Not sure why you think this is shady. Typically, unless it specifically states Dual SIM, you should always assume it's a single one. The dual ones are not very common in the USA at all so why would the unlocked version be dual?
I could have sworn when I first looked at the specs on the Samsung site before I did a pre-order it listed the device as being Dual SIM. Maybe they just had a generic spec list that included specs for International variants, but I was under the impression that it would be Dual SIM. That might be why the person above thought it would be as well.
heh... not sure why you feel it's shady. Dual sim phones are 90% all the time international models. US models are single sim, unless otherwise specified.
Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Don't have a definitive answer but it's not likely. Carrier Branded devices are firmly opposed to giving their customers alternative network options. That's the same reason all US devices are single sim.
it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
https://imgur.com/a/AySogpp
More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
on samsung dot com, it said esim supported.
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More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
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Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
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it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
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Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
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Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
Yes it does support it, and I can use it on AT&T. However, only after flashing the U1 firmware and it being carrier unlocked did it work.
Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
This is true, it is supported. A lot of product reps don't really know much.
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S20 range has esim support - so it would make sense that s21 has it too - is not like it cost them more
the Q is whether or not your carrier supports it and most likely NO
at least here in UK no major career supports it yet or plans too
LTE Smart watches? Voda now supports https://newscentre.vodafone.co.uk/news/esim-support-comes-to-vodafone-uk-smartphones/ for certain phones S21 included
I spoke to Samsung on the phone yesterday about this. I ordered the S21U 512gb (brown) unlocked version and they said it’s esim + nano sim. For what it’s worth, it took three different people to get an answer on that and I’m not even convinced they knew for sure.
I don’t understand why Samsung is being weird about the specs...
Guys, please remember that Samsung uses AI Chat bots and the cheapest 3rd world labor for their support. Don't take ANYTHING they say as gospel, until you see it for yourself.
I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
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I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
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I was just told yesterday by their Twitter team that the phone doesn't have DSDS but you can activate either the eSIM or nano SIM with only one activated at a time. The phone support team (E-commerce) told me very clearly that it IS dual-SIM DSDS. This is becoming more confusing as time goes on.
Sorry for off-topic, but, if supported, does eSIM consume more battery than nano SIM? Does eSIM have any impact on battery?
This is called Bait and switch, and is against the law. It clearly states on the S21 US website (https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s21-5g/#!) under FAQ "
Do Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G support eSIM?
Yes, you can use an electronic SIM, known as eSIM, with Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G. The eSIM allows you to activate a mobile network plan right on your phone, so you can switch data plans or add an overseas phone number without the physical Nano SIM."
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
ernstgot said:
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
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How did this harm you or impact you financially? Because without that, you don't have any basis for a class action suit. ****ty of Samsung to do, but that has nothing to do with the law.
Just got my S21 Ultra. UK, 512GB model, and it's dual sim, but doesn't seem to support eSim as well. I'm happy with dual sim
Hello,
The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is supporting DUAL SIM DUAL ACTIVE (DSDA) . The question is the galaxy s23 ultra have that feature ?
if not , why ? and how to enable it .
Thank you
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
fal4fal said:
Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
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They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
jcsww said:
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
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Eu regions support dual standby SIM not dual active SIM
hoss_n2 said:
They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
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Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
But take care pro
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fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
hoss_n2 said:
But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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thanks bro. the issue i will get it thru installment . that's why i don't think i can get it from china for the time being. Will wait and hopefully will hear good news .
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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Seeing how that person is in Pasadena, CA, I question if it has to be the Chinese model.
It's stupid if Samsung doesn't support DSDA but I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't really affect me, as I use one SIM for calls and text and the other for data.
Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
hoss_n2 said:
No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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Have you tried Modded Odin?
jcsww said:
Have you tried Modded Odin?
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
How to flash a different model firmware (i.e. SM908E onto a phone currently running SM9080)
Hi everyone, I do have a Snapdragon S22 Ultra that is currently running SM9080. However, non of the CSC versions available for this firmware has eSim support. Therefore I would like to try flashing the SM908E firmware (which should have eSim...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
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Interesting. This year though, no Exynos might be the game changer. EU firmware tends to be a lot more friendly for North American use from my experiences flashing OnePlus devices. This is my first Samsung since the Note 9 though. Definitely looking forward to some flashing goodness once developers start taking an interest in the S23 devices.
Edit: T-Mobile should get me my SIM unlock by launch day so I am definitely interested in trying once the SIM lock is gone on my device.
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
DarkenMoon said:
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
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It is also region dependent on one plus 11 you have to get Chinese version & unfortunately this year Chinese oneplus 11 units are region locked & cant make phone calls outside china
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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Because carriers want to make your life miserable.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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eSIM is illegal in China.