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Hi!
i am new to the treble-enabled stuff, this is the first phone i own that is treble capable and i have a few questions. I think they can apply to other NOBS, so here i go hoping some nice guy will help me understand:
Background: i have the redmi 5plus (global) which i have unlocked (after painful 720h) and i have flashed Pixel Experience 8.1 rom, but i like to experiment and it seems most of interesting roms are on treble.
1. By default, "vince" is not treble enabled. (treble check app says so)
2. "vince" seems to be an "A only" device, not A/B device,
Main Question: Now, what should i do to try (safely) some GSI roms (like here XDA LOS 16 GSI)?
Sub-Question 1: I must most likely flash some other things first, i guess... like a vendor or a treble image? Where do i find it?
Sub-Question 2: I have installed TRWP recovery, is it treble enabled or should i ALSO find a treble enabled recovery?
If i got it all wrong, please i would be happy to stand corrected!
Hi.
Well, yeah, you need to install another vendor, as far as I know, OrangeFox is the treble enabled recovery.
Someone already explained this in this post.
Have fun. :fingers-crossed:
Xyzko said:
Hi.
Well, yeah, you need to install another vendor, as far as I know, OrangeFox is the treble enabled recovery.
Someone already explained this in this post.
Have fun. :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you! Sometimes hard to find the right threads...
Installed orangefox, cool recovery!
One last question... how does kernel works with treble? Do i need treble enabled kernels if i want to change the kernel? Are they provided with the treble-enabled rom already or i get to keep the existing kernel? Is the kernel on a dedicated partition separated from the GSI and the Vendor? (i am starting to understand this, maybe)?
gardiol said:
Thank you! Sometimes hard to find the right threads...
Installed orangefox, cool recovery!
One last question... how does kernel works with treble? Do i need treble enabled kernels if i want to change the kernel? Are they provided with the treble-enabled rom already or i get to keep the existing kernel? Is the kernel on a dedicated partition separated from the GSI and the Vendor? (i am starting to understand this, maybe)?
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Months ago it started to appear some projects about android 9.0 before of Google revealed it as android Pie, then at this time devices with treble support also can support GSIs from these projects according two specific conditions: the processor (first qualcomm, then exynos, kirin and mtk were supported) and kind of partition system A-A/B.
At this first times was needed to flash a vendor treble supported rom to add treble support and flash over it a GSI 9.0. without the need to flash other kernel.
In this forum there are a lot of GSIs that eventually could work in our device but it could be many bugs https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development.
Now is not needed to complicate the job flashing a vendor, then a GSI and maybe a custom treblized kernel so started to appear first developments of roms running 9.0 and these roms will work as exactly did it any rom 7.1 or 8.1, in the future they could be include treble support.
This is the short story.
Hello,
Currently I'm using the good old unofficial TWRP 3.2.3-0 with encryption support, however I would like to update. Does the official versions from twrp.me website support encrypted phones? Would like to know before messing something up
Thanks!
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows if you can flash LOS 18.1 with TWRP 3.5.1?
As far as I could determine, TWRP does not yet officially support Android 11.
I am not really eager to use Lineage recovery because of the lack of backup support, but if there is no way around I guess I have to
Br,
GeForce66 said:
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows if you can flash LOS 18.1 with TWRP 3.5.1?
As far as I could determine, TWRP does not yet officially support Android 11.
I am not really eager to use Lineage recovery because of the lack of backup support, but if there is no way around I guess I have to
Br,
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Hey,
Ofc you can flash it via TWRP. It should work perfectly fine like any other ROM.
If you need any information about installation or something else, check my POCO F1 Ultimate Collection & Guides
Hi guys,
I am forced to upgrade my moto G5 plus due to a network update
In my moto G5 plus I have installed dotOS with android 11 and I am really happy with it, and I would like "clone" it on a Moto G Power.
Here are some questions:
1) since Moto G Power (2021) is not listed on dotOS but a GSI ARM64 available, has anyone experienced with that? I am also open to other custom ROMS (also Lineage OS doesnt have this devicelisted)
2) I also noticed that TWRP is not available for Moto G Power (2021), is there a good alternative or I have to use adb fastboot?
Thanks!
Edit:
I just found the thread:
[RECOVERY][UNOFFICIAL] TWRP 3.6.0-11 [BORNEO] Android 11 Based (updated 12/11/2021)
I can try that for question 2
Efone said:
Hi guys,
I am forced to upgrade my moto G5 plus due to a network update
In my moto G5 plus I have installed dotOS with android 11 and I am really happy with it, and I would like "clone" it on a Moto G Power.
Here are some questions:
1) since Moto G Power (2021) is not listed on dotOS but a GSI ARM64 available, has anyone experienced with that? I am also open to other custom ROMS (also Lineage OS doesnt have this devicelisted)
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Presently I don't believe it is possible to have a custom rom as we need the kernel be released for it to have a chance, or a compatible similar device and its kernel.
Hi Onoitsu and thank you for the reply,
so I guess I could go with the stock ROM. I noticed that I can use https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/borneo/ has an official and blankflash (not sure what the difference is). If I understand the process correctly I could:
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash twrp in recovery
3) flash blankflash.zip (or official?) through twrp
4) flash magisk through twrp
5) restore my old phone dotOS android 11 backup through twrp
and I should have all the apps and data as in the old device?
Efone said:
Hi Onoitsu and thank you for the reply,
so I guess I could go with the stock ROM. I noticed that I can use https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/borneo/ has an official and blankflash (not sure what the difference is). If I understand the process correctly I could:
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The blankflash is only if you can no longer flash anything by usual methods
Blankflash and EDL Mode
Is my device in EDL Mode?
How to boot into EDL Mode
Thanks for the info!
Should the reasoning above work if I use official instead of blankflash?
Efone said:
3) flash blankflash.zip (or official?) through twrp
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Neither the blank flash nor official firmware are twrp compatible.
Thanks sd_shadow for the info, it is really helping me out.
I saw your post for using LSMA, but I couldnt find a Linux version. Is there one? Or the only other option I have is going through the fastboot process?
Can anyone tell me if there is going to be custom roms made for Borneo?
Hatrackman said:
Can anyone tell me if there is going to be custom roms made for Borneo?
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Still the reason I cite in post 2 above, indeterminate, sadly.
Onoitsu2 said:
Still the reason I cite in post 2 above, indeterminate, sadly.
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Mostly concerned because google has said they're going to stop their 'less secure app' thing at the end of this month and it might mean textnow will stop working outright for people that don't use play services.
Hopefully anyone working on making a custom rom for Borneo will see this thread and maybe give an idea if its going to happen.
Does this help?
If I wanted to start from scratch what would I need to know to make my own custom rom? Don't need a phone, will only ever use wifi. Just need microg basically.
The following statement is on the dotOS FAQs:
Q: My device is not supported! What should I do?!A: First reason can be that our development team doesn't have your device to support it or we no maintainer applied for this device. You can always use our GSI builds if your phone supports Treble Project.
Here we have this statement:
... Google requires every Certified Android device launching with Android 8.0 Oreo and above to support Treble.
Here borneo is listed as a supported device.
Does this mean dotOS GSI supports MotoGPower 2021 without the need of vendor blobs?
Onoitsu2 said:
Presently I don't believe it is possible to have a custom rom as we need the kernel be released for it to have a chance, or a compatible similar device and its kernel.
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@sd_shadow
Two sites that potential rom developers may want to check out:
1) https://github.com/moto-common
check out: https://github.com/moto-common/andr...ernel/blob/12/dtb/bengal-moto-base-borneo.dtb
2) https://github.com/moto-sm6115
Scroll through the list of repositories, particularly in the moto-common site
@sdembiske that looks promising, I am willing to give it a shot and contribute to the community. Is there a good guide on how to build the kernel with vendor tree/blobs etc...?
Reference "Moto G Power 2021 XT2117-4 Firmware Extractions" - You will find the extracted kernel etc. in the boot.img extracted link that you can download - there are many other extractions that you hopefully can use to build a custom or AOSP rom.
Your best bet would be to add a pre-built kernel in the build - you can google that for how-to's.
Onoitsu2 said:
Presently I don't believe it is possible to have a custom rom as we need the kernel be released for it to have a chance, or a compatible similar device and its kernel.
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The Xiaomi poco m3 has the same SoC and other innards as the Moto G Power 2021 and it also has unofficial Lineage OS 19 support. I am considering hitting them up and using their code as part of the build. I'm also requesting Motorola Mobility LLC to release the kernel source for Android 11. I already have a device tree for Borneo on my github. Me and Fazwalrus have a telegram chat set up for the ROM development here
Hey, I want to install Pixel Experience custom rom on my Android Phone but unfortunately my phone vendor is not present on devices tab. In this case what should I do? How can I install custom rom on my Android phone?
My Phone is Techno Spark 6 GO.
you could try GSI but that device shipped Android (Go edition) usually for low ram. bootloader is unlockable?
Wnat is GSI? Generic System Image? Even if I am able to unlocked bootloader on my device then what then? Since I am not able to find custom OS for it.
Haziq12345 said:
Wnat ks GSI? Generic System Image? Even if I am able to unlocked bootloader on my device then what then? Since I am not able to find custom OS for it.
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same problem here i want to install custom rom for my devce but theres is no availablecustom rom for it
Generic System Image is generic. you won't find GSI especially for this device. it's trial and error
[GSI][13] LineageOS 20 "Light"
LineageOS is a free, community built, aftermarket firmware distribution of Android, which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device. LineageOS is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks for the explanation, but by testing what if tested wrong GSI and phone become brick. Then it would be useless.
unlock bootloader first. if bootloader is unlocked, we will talk about *what if* questions
It's now easy to bypass MediaTek's SP Flash Tool authentication
A group of developers has created a Python utility to bypass the authentication routine of MediaTek SP Flash Tool. Check it out now!
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aIecxs said:
unlock bootloader first. if bootloader is unlocked, we will talk about *what if* questions
It's now easy to bypass MediaTek's SP Flash Tool authentication
A group of developers has created a Python utility to bypass the authentication routine of MediaTek SP Flash Tool. Check it out now!
www.xda-developers.com
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Does this works in oppo too yes my bootloader is unlocked my phone is oppo a71 cph1717
Unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI released for Project Treble compatible devices
You can now get LineageOS 17, based on Android 10, on any Project Treble compatible device thanks to this unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI release.
www.xda-developers.com
How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices
So your device supports Project Treble, what does that mean for you? It means you can flash a Generic System Image such as LineageOS or Resurrection Remix! Enjoy AOSP-based custom ROMs! Here's a guide on how to install these ROMs.
www.xda-developers.com
aIecxs said:
Unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI released for Project Treble compatible devices
You can now get LineageOS 17, based on Android 10, on any Project Treble compatible device thanks to this unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI release.
www.xda-developers.com
How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices
So your device supports Project Treble, what does that mean for you? It means you can flash a Generic System Image such as LineageOS or Resurrection Remix! Enjoy AOSP-based custom ROMs! Here's a guide on how to install these ROMs.
www.xda-developers.com
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So its really possible to install gsi on my oppo a71? Right sir?
you tell us
aIecxs said:
you tell us
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Hmmm its said there that i need to be android 8 or higher to flash the gsi but my phone is android 7.1.1
probably not... double check with that app
Treble Check - Apps on Google Play
Check your device for Project Treble support and more
play.google.com
found this guide but seems dangerous, most likely you will end up bricked
[GUIDE] [Q&A] [TREBLE] From Stock to Treble - everything you need to know!
Here I will share all the info you need to know about using Treble on the Mi A1. Everyone is more than welcome to ask questions and clarification here, I am happy to answer and will update this thread over time. Thanks! Contents 0. Key Terms...
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aIecxs said:
probably not... double check with that app
Treble Check - Apps on Google Play
Check your device for Project Treble support and more
play.google.com
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My phone doesnt supported but could it possibly work although its not supported?
Anonymous V said:
My phone doesnt supported but could it possibly work although its not supported?
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No. search for custom ROM for your device
aIecxs said:
No. search for custom ROM for your device
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Nah i already did but no i cant find anything im like searching for 2 months but nothing i cant find something fit on my device so i hope gsi would work for me it should be easy for me my phone is running in oreo or pie but nah i cant find custom rom for my device also i know this link custom ROM its says he that he have the same phone as mine so he prted ressurection os pie for his phone and it work im a bit worried about it pls sir if you can tell me if this rom is safe just confirm it to be safe ill try this out
Anonymous V said:
pls sir if you can tell me if this rom is safe ill try this out
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that's not how xda works.
aIecxs said:
that's not how xda works.
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Yeah i know i just asked if this is safe like there no virus or trojan somthing because it happens to before my phone broke because of virud from the rom thats why and if ever i bricked my device i know how to fix it and backup is already in standby