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Welcome to my Thread, I hope that you will enjoying it and get benefits of it. I believe that there is many users not knowing about The battery killer or To be more realistic "killers". I will provide you an informations that I had collected from science research and sources and give a summary of it.
There Is Med-kit stuff you must follow to avoid bad battery life because:
Unhealthy battery = - performance & - life usage
Healthy battery = + performance & + life usage
So, I will set up to you tips that's makes your Redmi Note 10 battery better.
I can be the science man and explain to you all the tips that I will mention it, but I won't just want to be easy on you and get you on the boat.
NOTE: This thread not tellings you how to optimize your rom for better SOT this about take care of your battery life.
As you know we have non-removable "Li-Po" 5000 mAh battery, We need to:
1- low voltages is recommended for a battery’s lifespan, According to british university research, charging up your phone in that 30% to 80% range keeps the voltage lower and prolongs the battery lifespan.
2- Never play Games or watching videos while charging is bad because they distort charging cycles.
3- Try to not use your device while charging, and if you can turn it off while charging till get charged enough.
4,1- Don't ever makes your device temperature get higher because it's will kill your battery in long term. there is many ways to get your device temperature higher, such as: play while charging, put device on charging in hot place under pillow or whatever and using wrong bad kernel -_-...etc
4,2- It's recommend to take off your device case while charging, that's help to decrease temperature degree.
5- This device is not flagship device or has an expensive CPU & GPU, so stop playing heavy game with 60 frame rate for an hours ! this bad habit and will kills your battery in long term. when you feels your device get hot stop what you doing till temperature get normal.
6- If you are traveling or storing your device charge it to 80% and leave it switched off but not for more than 5~6 months. and for your knowledge you can store your device for 10 years and your battery can works after because the lithium-ion batteries shalf life 10~12 years.
7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Now, maybe you asking "Can I get step back to get my bad battery healthy again ?"
Answer : half yes ! You can't restore the water you droped on sand but you can save the rest that left
Glad to see this thread coming up to Sunny device.
7- Charge your device from 0% to 100% once a month
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You do not need to do this with today's lithium-ion batteries. There is no memory effect.
Suzy Turquoise Blue said:
You do not need to do this with today's lithium-ion batteries. There is no memory effect.
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After researching, It can be confirmed thanks besides it's Li-po.
"7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries)."
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besides it's Li-po.
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My mistake. When it comes to battery health they can be treated the same. They are like close brother/sister anyway.
greeet
I would like to disclose that this phone has managed to provide sustainable maximum power managed in case of thermal overload. I am using the Pixel Experience Plus ROM and there is no longer any problem with overheating under load. This was solved at one time by the ROM developer and his associates.
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As the title says:
Anyone tried high capacy batteries for our Wizard?
I found one Ebay a 2350mAh battery and would like to know if it really expands the battery life a lot!
link
I have the extended battery for my T-Mobile MDA. Works great, gets about 3 days under continuous usage at work. Never had the normal battery, but with the extended it doesn't seem to have any battery issues I read about before purchasing my device. I got mine on ebay too, they're from some cheapo Japanese manufacturer, but working well so far.
what's the mah that comes standard with our varios?
I bought one of those 2400 mAh batteries and it makes the difference of a couple of days. It's funny, tho...the standard battery sits at 100% forever and then when it starts dropping, it appears to drop relatively quickly. The 2400 mAh battery, on the other hand, appears to drop fairly quickly until it hits 50%. Then it sits there forever before dropping below that. But anyway, the stock battery would last me about three days, the large one lasts about 5.
Thanks for the answers!
I checked but it seems that the extended batteries are also a lot thicker.
And you will get a new backcase because otherwise it wont fit...
I do like a good extended battery but I dont want my phone to be any bigger
An alternative might be one of those battery powered "quick chargers"....I saw a link for one on a .nl site somewhere in this section. Anyway, I believe it uses a AA battery and it appeared to have a wizard compatible plug. You could always keep a couple charged NiCad AA batteries in your pocket and if your phone battery runs low, give it a boost with the charger. Then you get some extra battery life without increasing the size of the phone itself.
i have one from lion battery.....love it.
got pictures of how much bigger the battery sticks out on the mda ? thanks in advance
It will stick out a fair bit:
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I find the standard (1250mAh, not the 1000mAh) battery lasts for two full working days plus travel time worth of heavy use. I use it for listening to music for about six hours a day as well as working.
I charge it every two days and find this good. If I only use it as a phone it can go all week with one charge.
I replaced the standard Cellexpert battery with the one from Sino that is also rated at 1250 mAh and it seems to last approximatelly 50% longer than the original one. Maybe it is fresher or the mAh rating is more conservative than that of Cellexpert.
(http://cgi.ebay.com/BATTERY-FOR-O2-...5QQihZ004QQcategoryZ75446QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
O2 uses the 1.25Ah battery as standard. Don't see the point in the 1Ah battery if the 1.25 is the same size...
Too Big
I bought one. but it's too big for my case. It works at least twice as long as the standard. I use it when camping or boating with a big waterproof case, were the size isn't an issue.
My standard battery works OK. as long as I let it discharge about 80% every couple weeks.
my mda dies (drops below 20%) after ~8-9 hrs of use. granted i'm on it a lot. i still dont understand how they could POSSIBLY rate this phone's standby time of 240 hrs.
banta80 said:
my mda dies (drops below 20%) after ~8-9 hrs of use. granted i'm on it a lot. i still dont understand how they could POSSIBLY rate this phone's standby time of 240 hrs.
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cuz they turn the screen to nothing, set every shutoff timer to 1 second, and turn off all radios. try it! max battery life!
I would love more battery, but this thing is a behemoth anyway (for those of us who won't use a holster) and i'm not willing to go any thicker.. bah.. looks like i'll carry a second battery charged in a bag as an emergency go to.
I get about 24hrs of MP3 playback on my Wizard with the 1250mAh battery screen off and volume at 80%. It lasts more than a week on standby with minimal use.
next question. with the oem battery, did u guys charge it for ~ 4 hours on the initial charge, or did u guys charge it over night?
I charged it off the USB port for less than 4 hours and the batterylife is still really good.
I had the skyrocket originally but didn't like the lack of custom ROM and not to mention I don't really care about LTE. SO i've been thinking about getting the Samsung galaxy S II since I loved the skyrocket. One thing I did experience with the skyrocket and everything I've been able to research up to this point also indicates the same on the galaxy S II. It takes nearly 3-4 hours to fully charge the phone. Is there any way with custom rom or Kernel or any other tweaks to make this faster? I understand increasing the current to the battery does make it degrade faster, and quite honestly I don't really care. If the battery lasts me 1 year I'm happy with it as the batterys are inexpensive and easily changeable.
its internally controlled by the chip and cannot be changed. period.
Unfortunately, unlike the original GalaxyS series, our device has a fixed charger that only charges at 400 mA (USB) or 650 mA (regular charger). There appears to be no way to change these current limits.
There's a slight chance I might find a way to make the MAX8997 handle charging instead of the MAX8922, but I'd estimate the chances of this happening at <5%.
Entropy512 said:
Unfortunately, unlike the original GalaxyS series, our device has a fixed charger that only charges at 400 mA (USB) or 650 mA (regular charger). There appears to be no way to change these current limits.
There's a slight chance I might find a way to make the MAX8997 handle charging instead of the MAX8922, but I'd estimate the chances of this happening at <5%.
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SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A CHANCE!!
Been awhile since I've seen dumb and dumber
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Entropy512 said:
There's a slight chance I might find a way to make the MAX8997 handle charging instead of the MAX8922, but I'd estimate the chances of this happening at <5%.
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well, thats about 100% better than my chances of doing it But on a serious note, I heard that the faster you charge the less your battery life would have. is that correct? I thought I read that slower charging is better for the battery.
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You can try and change the values using voltage control, but not sure if it will actually lower the charging time.
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that isnt an option on my phone.
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well, thats about 100% better than my chances of doing it But on a serious note, I heard that the faster you charge the less your battery life would have. is that correct? I thought I read that slower charging is better for the battery.
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True - There are two ways you can use "life" to describe a battery:
1) Capacity for a given charge
2) Number of charge/discharge cycles before 1) gets reduced - Charging a device faster and "bump charging" that last little bit of juice in at the end is bad for this
On the Infuse I had a custom algorithm that was intended to provide improved charge rates for deeply discharged devices, but not stress the battery TOO much - The algorithm dropped current early as voltage increased, and also cut off charging earlier. So it took longer for the last phase of charging, but could charge a deeply discharged battery much faster.
cfaberlle said:
You can try and change the values using voltage control, but not sure if it will actually lower the charging time.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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Siyah removed those features in later versions after this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL71G2YEIHU
I use my HP Touchpads charger and it seems to charge pretty quickly, though I never timed it. CurrentWidget says its charging at around 1800mA.
*sigh*
Someone didn't read the first post of the thread for the kernel they're using in its entirety...
You are not charging at 1800 mA.
I did not....:x good to know though, my bad!
Hey guys, I know these threads aren't exactly welcome, but this was kind of weird.
I was carrying out my papers, listening to my Spotify playlist. After about three hours, I had 34% battery charge left. About ten minutes later, 11%. Then my phone died, because the charge was gone and it didn't get past the boot logo.
I arrived home about 10 to 15 minutes ago and tried to boot my phone, it booted and had 24% charge - how does that work?
Here's a screenshot
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I'm running MIUI polimorph JB 4.1.x.
Any explanations would be nice.
CyanogenModded Very China-like, from my Samsung Galaxy S III
LG Familyguy59/Beatsleigher
Internal resistance of the battery increased due to high temperature, voltage dropped to shut off threshold. After the phone was allowed to cool the resistance dropped and voltage returned to the actual 24% level remaining.
It sounds like your battery could do with replacing.
boomboomer said:
Internal resistance of the battery increased due to high temperature, voltage dropped to shut off threshold. After the phone was allowed to cool the resistance dropped and voltage returned to the actual 24% level remaining.
It sounds like your battery could do with replacing.
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Sounds reasonable, but I don't think so. I was doing my paper round at ~1 degrees C and my phone was in my front pocket of my jacket, so it was pretty cold. (Now thinking of that, maybe I should have written that in the OP, as well.)
But I think you're right with the battery exchange. Ever since I got my replacement S III I've been having better and yet again worse battery charge-durations. It lasted longer, but took from ~10PM charging through my XBox 'till 2PM when I go out and stuff...
But still, thanks
My S3 (2nd phone) battery lasted ages when I first got it but now a few weeks later it seems the battery just doesn't last as long as it did when brand new. I'm simply going to replace the battery with a new 1 every 3 months
Small price to pay for 24hrs plus battery life with at least 6hrs intense screen on activities. Gaming & videos mainly at work
Sent from my GT-I9300
There are several possible causes to your issue
- When batteries are cold, their capacity drops so when you get home it warms up and has some charge left
- Your battery's electronics had an incorrect counter. Do a full load/unload cycle and it should calibrate correctly
d4fseeker said:
There are several possible causes to your issue
- When batteries are cold, their capacity drops so when you get home it warms up and has some charge left
- Your battery's electronics had an incorrect counter. Do a full load/unload cycle and it should calibrate correctly
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I don't think it would be a faulty counter. The phone was so dead it didn't reach the boot logo.
I'd say option one is most likely.
CyanogenModded Very China-like, from my Samsung Galaxy S III
LG Familyguy59/Beatsleigher
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
Sources:
Link
Link
nauvho said:
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
Sources:
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Link
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In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
TheMadScientist said:
In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
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Totally agree with you, it really depends on the usage and purposes from the user for the device. In general i don't like non removable batteries but unfortunately there is no flagship phones with removable batteries anymore so sad
I have read an very detailed article on batteries and its seems that slow charging between 20 to 80% can greatly improve the battery life, for example assuming you charge your phone once per day (24h) charging it to 80% instead of 100% can improve the battery life from roughly 2 years to 4-5 years which is dramatic difference. See the chart below.
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Also temperature affect battery life tremendously too, chart below.
By the way, is there any app that can monitor Battery and CPU temp and set alarms similar to GSam battery monitor but with option to record full history and backup data in the cloud? I'm curious to see how will my battery hold and change in a year period for example.
Thanks for the infos guys, can only support your opinion. My HTC 10s battery was reduced in performance greatly after 2 years...i charged it every night with HTCs quick charger. So i killed it myself, i just figured it out too late. Now for my S9+ im using a slower 2A charger and only charge it every second night. Hope that will save me some battery life on the long term. Samsungs charger is my mobile option i keep in my backpack if im on the go.
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As long as @pnin believes in Old-school stuff, and he has made for us map for Guides index of poco x3 threads on XDA. I believe too that there is many users not knowing about The battery killer or To be more realistic "killers".
There Is Med-kit stuff you must follow to avoid bad battery life because:
Unhealthy battery = - performance & - life usage
Healthy battery = + performance & + life usage
So, I will set up to you tips that's makes your POCO X3 battery better.
I can be the science man and explain to you all the tips that I will mention it, but I won't just want to be easy on you and get you on the boat.
NOTE: This thread not tellings you how to optimize your rom for better SOT this about take care of your battery life.
As long as we have non-removable "Li-ion" battery, We need to:
1- low voltages is recommended for a battery’s lifespan, According to british university research, charging up your phone in that 30% to 80% range keeps the voltage lower and prolongs the battery lifespan.
2- Never play Games or watching videos while charging is bad because they distort charging cycles.
3- Try to not use your device while charging, and if you can turn it off while charging till get charged enough.
4,1- Don't ever makes your device temperature get higher because it's will kill your battery in long term. there is many ways to get your device temperature higher, such as: play while charging, put device on charging in hot place under pillow or whatever and using wrong bad kernel -_-...etc
4,2- It's recommend to take off your device case while charging, that's help to decrease temperature degree.
5- This device is not flagship device or has an expensive CPU & GPU, so stop playing heavy game with over 60 frame rate for hours ! this bad habit and will kills your battery in long term. when you feels your device get hot stop what you doing till temperature get normal.
6- If you are traveling or storing your device charge it to 80% and leave it switched off but not for more than 5~6 months. and for your knowledge you can store your device for 10 years and your battery can works after because the lithium-ion batteries shalf life 10~12 years.
7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Now, maybe you asking "Can I get step back to get my bad battery healthy again ?"
Answer : half yes ! You can't restore the water you droped on sand but you can save the rest that left
Glad to tell me If I had missed something.
Thanks in advance.
regards
any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
ecrum said:
any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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If I understood you, There is "smart charging" feature on some AOSP roms for poco x3 such as: Arrow os,Pixel extended,...etc
let your device when to stop charging and when to charge. It's really helpful for life spin.
I don't know if this feature same as Pixels phone that lower battery refresh rate or something common. Because there is no explain to how it's really works.
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any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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There are a couple of Magisk modules for that. YMMV.
Valuable Information thanks
From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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Thanks for this reach info. Yes it's important but you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
We can tell as you showed.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
which I believe hardcore gamers that playing games all the time using they are 33 waat charger for more than 4 times a day.
which it's a killer habit for the battery indeed.
for a normal users one charge would be enough for a full-day.
I'm charging once a day and If I playing for more than 1 hour then day and half to charge.
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[...] you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
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No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
ema93a said:
We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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What I meant that there is a lot of users ( Gamers ) whom always playing (always heating) which they are don't care about temperature and charging a lot per a day will make heating most the time and will end the cycle life as soon as possible .
anyway it's not hard it easy steps and advices.
my regards
Thread Updated!
After researching I had changed common habit these days and updated number 7:
"7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries)."
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