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Tips or App to optimize Battery Life?

Hello, I have been searching the forums for any tips or apps people use to get the most battery life out of their HTC One and couldn't find what I was looking for. I'm not complaining too much since I am getting around 4 hours of screen time per day. But was just wondering if anyone used any apps or has a tip that they used that saw boost in saving battery usage. Thanks
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Juice Defender, Green Power, OR BatteryGuru - Made specifically from Qualcomm for Qualcomm Snapdragon processors! Tried it on my Atrix HD and it did some impressive work at saving battery.
Never used Juice Defender personally, but I did use Green Power before on my Note I, and it was great. Saved me a ton of battery.
Currently using BatteryGuru atm for the One though.
Most important thing we could get is the ability to dial down the auto brightness, it's way too bright
I use startup manager, to have non-system apps not start at boot(saves alot of battery) I also use quad-core cpu sleeper(paid) worth it "when screen is off drops to one core, setcpu with profile to drop my max frequency to 1000 when screen is off and to full when screen is on, and finally use the stock htc power saver to only kill mobile date when off, can get 2 days on idle use and about 3/4 day regular use unless playing really graphic games
ps also using team seven kernel
powersaver is all this phone needs imho
CheesyNutz said:
powersaver is all this phone needs imho
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Agreed!
Im glad to see this thread, I was thinking about starting one like this. For the past 2 days my ONE is draining battery fast, Im at 33% right now after an overnight charge, been using it one and off all day. Im a bit lost. I just installed battery guru. Is there a good app to show where your battery usage is going? per app or process? I had a decent iPhone app for this, Im searching the Play Store now.
thanks
G Sam battery monitor is what I use
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Greenify to hibernate all the apps causing wakelocks
Mr.s ookipy
Always keep power saver on.
I am going to give Batteryguru a try. I don't know if I am just not using Greenify right, but I don't see much difference.
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I am going to give Batteryguru a try. I don't know if I am just not using Greenify right, but I don't see much difference.
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Same here. If anything I feel like greenify drains more battery.
I used Carat to identify the battery drainers. Then Froze/disabled a few apps.
The real battery drainer is how much I love this freaking phone!
I do miss the task manager from my GS3 though. Wish there was a way to free RAM like it used to have.
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curious... how long does it take you guys to charge your htc ones? and does it ever heat up? mine seems to be running warm from just charging.. is this normal?
DS battery saver - keeps your phone in deep sleep, most of android's battery woes come from apps randomly waking up the device to do their sync and whatnot. By default will wake the device up on a regular schedule and do a forced sync I think. Has options for whitelists so the apps you trust can still do what they want when they want. I've heard juice defender is a good one of this too, though I prefer DS battery saver for its simplicity.
Greenify - Takes a more iOS approach to apps in background. ie. it freezes them. This prevents them from consuming precious mAh
Disable location reporting (or GPS alltogether) in maps.
Disable sync for the weather/stock/news stuff in settings
Get a kernel that supports Undervolting (I prefer elementalX) and use a utility like system tuner pro to UV the everloving **** out of it. Our qualcomm chips seem to handle this particularly well.
That's all I can think of.
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choboii said:
Same here. If anything I feel like greenify drains more battery.
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Greenify will only do something if the app you put onto its list was being a problem in the first place really. I suppose it works best with carat. Use the latter to identify hog apps and then greenify to deliver sweet battery saving justice to them (or uninstall them). Most android apps (at least for me) seem to be pretty good with not wrecking my battery in the background though, just sit there and wait for me to call on them again like a good app should.
Am i the only one that read the manual? Pg. 37
Getting the battery to last longer
How long the battery can last before it needs recharging depends on how you use
HTC One. HTC One power management helps to increase battery life.
In times when you need to extend the battery life more, try out some of these tips:
Check your battery usage
Monitoring your battery usage helps you identify what's using the most power so you
can choose what to do about it. For details, see Checking battery usage on page 37.
Manage your connections
§ Turn off wireless connections you're not using.
To turn on or off connections such as mobile data, Wi‑Fi, or Bluetooth, go to
Settings and tap their On/Off switches.
§ Turn GPS on only when a precise location is needed.
To prevent some apps from using GPS in the background, keep the GPS
satellites setting off. Turn it on only when you need your precise location while
using navigation or location-based apps. Go to Settings and tap Location to
turn this setting on or off.
Manage your display
Lowering the brightness, letting the display sleep when not in use, and keeping it
simple helps save battery power.
§ Use automatic brightness (the default), or manually lower the brightness.
§ Set the screen timeout to a shorter time.
38 Your first week with your new phone
§ Don't use a live wallpaper for your Home screen. Animation effects are nice to
show off to other people but they drain your battery.
Changing your wallpaper to a plain, black background can also help a little. The
less color is displayed, the less battery is used.
§ Set the web browser to auto dim the screen while webpages load. Open the
Internet app, and then tap > Settings > Accessibility > Dim screen during
page loading.
For more details, see Settings and security on page 166 and Personalizing on page
56.
Manage your apps
§ Install the latest software and application updates. Updates sometimes include
battery performance improvements.
§ Uninstall or disable apps that you never use.
Many apps run processes or sync data in the background even when you're not
using them. If there are apps that you don't need anymore, uninstall them.
If an app came preloaded and can't be uninstalled, disabling the app can still
prevent it from continuously running or syncing data. In Settings > Apps, swipe
to the All tab, tap the app, and then tap Disable.
Limit background data and sync
Background data and sync can use a lot of battery power if you have many apps
syncing data in the background. It’s recommended not to let apps sync data too
often. Determine which apps can be set with longer sync times, or sync manually.
§ In Settings, tap Accounts & sync and check what types of data are being synced
in your online accounts. When the battery is starting to run low, temporarily
disable syncing some data.
§ If you have many email accounts, consider prolonging the sync time of some
accounts.
In the Mail app, select an account, tap > Settings > Sync, Send & Receive, and
then adjust the settings under Sync schedule.
§ When you’re not traveling from one place to another, sync weather updates of
only your current location, rather than in all of your named cities. Open the
Weather app, and then tap > Edit to remove unneeded cities.
§ Choose widgets wisely.
Some widgets constantly sync data. Consider removing the ones that are not
important from your Home screen.
§ In Play Store, tap > Settings, and then clear Auto-add widgets to avoid
automatically adding Home screen widgets whenever you've installed new apps.
Also clear Auto-update apps if you're fine with updating apps from Play Store
manually.
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Other tips
To squeeze in a little bit more battery power, try these tips:
§ Tone down the ringtone and media volume.
§ Minimize the use of vibration or sound feedback. In Settings, tap Sound and
choose which ones you don't need and can disable.
§ Check your apps’ settings as you may find more options to optimize the battery.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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Here's a really big tip I've found from trial and error... Turn off Google Location data, best wifi performance, and turn on power saver in settings. I have auto synchronize on, auto screen brightness, and other stuff and I'm getting 15+ hours with moderate usage with 32 percent left when I plug in at night and go to bed. That's also moving in and out of 4G and lte areas and using wifi where available
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thaks for the post,i've found the solution for a long time too
I don't believe in disabling everything a smartphone is supposed to be able to do. I'd just get a basic flip phone if that was the case.
I'm trying the snapdragon app atm
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CPU Awake time

Hey everyone,
After playing a bit with my Honor battery this week, I realized that my phone barely goes into deep sleep mode.
I have few Power consuming apps running in the background such as Facebook, Google App, Google Play Store, Textra, Gmail or Pebble.
Using tasker I periodically turn on and off the Auto Sync parameter (1 min of auto sync every 30 minutes) and I always shut down all the applications running in the background.
In my previous Nexus 5, I didn't had much of a problem with the CPU Deep sleep but now that I'm on EMUI without Root on I feel like I can barely control anything that's happening on my phone anymore, especially on the battery.
Overall the battery is still correct but I'm just wondering whether I'm the only one noticing this.
Thanks !
If battery life is normal then it doesn't matter. All cpu operate differently, maybe its just how kirin is. If apps are consuming power in background , emui will tell you.
Have you gone through the power saving and background apps managers of EMUI itself ? Maybe there is conflict of that with Tasker.
I just create battery discussion thread, I appreciate if you can post info here , Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/battery-life-discussion-t3196324
warea said:
Have you gone through the power saving and background apps managers of EMUI itself ? Maybe there is conflict of that with Tasker.
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Yeah, I'm spending a lot of time checking out the power saving in the background and after a few day it seems that the phone kinda got used to it.
Facebook and G+ are still coming up first in term of power consumption (I actually wonder why every time I kill them, they just come back... even though they're both not synchronized anyway)
I've gotta admit that the on screen time is pretty amazing! The one thing that's kinda scaring me is the background power consumption but I'll try harder to get this right if anything can be done about these app running in the background. (I'll try rooting and grenifying it)
Other than that, yeah the phone last me a good day with a good amount of on screen time!

Hibernate and aggressive doze

I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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1. Any app which is not greenified will run in the background once it is opened and then dismissed by the Home button. As far as the IM apps are concerned, the advice of the Dev is not to greenify them if you rely on them. However, some people have successfully greenified those IM apps which use GCM without issues but some others complain of delayed notifications. So it may be better not to greenify them if you rely on them. Of course they will consume more battery since they are running in the background.
2. If you want iPhone like behaviour, use shallow hibernation. Otherwise, the apps will start afresh.
3. It is better to add such apps to the white list.
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
realista87 said:
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
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Similar observation on battery savings. In most cases any power related benefits of aggressive doze are wiped out when the device wakes from its comma and performs a bunch of 'catch up' tasks. Such behavior can lead to lag immediately after wake which is a common complaint associated with aggressive doze. That said, aggressive doze may have other situational benefits...especially over longer durations. As always YMMV.
yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
realista87 said:
yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
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The sensor issue is device specific. I enable 'doze on the go' on all my devices and have yet to encounter the brightness glitch. However, I don't use the more aggressive sensor suppressions available in some apps. Note 'doze on the go' is enabled by default w/Android 7+.
After experimenting with countless apps/tools/techniques (ugh) my Android power management methodology has evolved to a 'lite touch' minimalist approach. I only take overt action when a specific drain can not be contained by other means. Greenify is the tool of choice with only a few bad actors in the explicit hibernation list. Android defaults handle everything else. My devices sleep soundly, behave predictably and score admirably low drain rates. App selection obviously plays into that. Big pigs like Facebook, Google everything and WhatsApp are not part of my portfolio as lighter alternatives exist. Good luck with your own adventures.

Greenify+ Servicely= Good combination?

Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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OK, understood. Will try this combination and see how.
Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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I see, so is there any good one to go?
thomas140 said:
I see, so is there any good one to go?
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Naptime works fine alone since you only need to optimize sleep behavior. The Pie itself can perfectly manage apps' battery usage already.
I'm using Servicely + Naptime during the night, and I get about 0,3% idle drain! So f.....ing amazing!
thomas140 said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
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I use both, together with franco kernel, and battery life is awesome. I could use Naptime too in place of Greenify. I don't know about it being deprecated, it still is alive in the Play Store.
I use Greenify more for its Doze On the Go feature, I don't know if Pie caters for that. Naptime has it too.
On my Huawei phone which is unrooted, I use Naptime since Greenify's Doze On the Go is inactive.
Naptime:
"Why?
Because why the hell not?
Doze is amazing but with it has its quirks. It can take at least 2 hours to kick in (if the device is stationary, not charging etc). If you move around, even with the screen off, doze won't kick in, so there are a lot of potential battery saving opportunities lost, gone with the wind."
For Greenify :
"Doze on the Go
Android system uses a low power "significant motion sensor" (if present in hardware) to track movement and exits Doze Mode if significant movement is detected, because the stock Doze Mode is designed for battery-saving in stationary state. Doze on the Go effectively removes this restriction and keeps your device in Doze Mode even during movement.
Android 7.0 introduced native support of Doze on the Go and a new light doze mode, which blocks network access but not wake-up timers of the app. When movement is detected, it exits deep doze and keeps in light doze, and then goes back into deep doze after device is stationary for some time. The Greenify version of "Doze on the Go" will always keep your device in deep doze on Android 7.0, regardless of movement."
Using greenify on pie will likely break **** tbh

Curious about a few battery saving things. Need clarification

I know that a lot of folk use apps like Greenify, Power Nap, Amplify, Force Doze, etc along with things like Pixel Filter, Smart Pixel feature in some roms etc, but are all these really necessary with current phones?
I have used all of the above together for years but curious about if I really need to now and if they are just impacting my battery more than they save? Do I really need them all now? I'm not using ForceDoze currently as Havoc OS has it's own doze settings and aggressive profile, but I'm wondering if Power Nap is even needed if I have Greenify and Amplify.
Just trying to reduce the apps I need without compromising my standby drain as I am running into odd issues like Magisk failing to grant root after a few minutes or so uptime unless I restart the phone and quickly open the app I need to grant root (once in the allowed list, they work flawlessly. It's just the initial prompt), messages like Whatsapp/Facebook not coming through even though they are exempt from battery optimisations and whitelisted in all the above apps and fingerprint/double tap to wake not working after 10 minutes unless I hit the power button first. I feel there are conflicts going on here which I have only had since having my OnePlus 6 this month. Not an issue with my S5 with this exact setup which was running for years and all my issues are non-existent if I leave the phone stock.
I am obviously going wrong somewhere and need to figure out where.
Also, if I run pixel filter or the smart pixel feature built into Havoc OS, am I better doing that or just turning it off and lowering the brightness? Smart pixel dims the screen slightly which I have to counter by raising the brightness. That's the one thing that has me confused as to which is actually using more juice.
Just in case I am doing something wrong, I have written down what I do in order after installing a new ROM in the attempt of maximising battery life. Doesn't seem tied to Havoc OS, but to my OnePlus 6 as I never had these issue with my previous S5.
Below is after the usual TWRP, Magisk, ROM and setting up settings etc
-Install Greenify (donation package), Amplify, Power Nap, EdXposed, Riru Core, Riru Yahfa, NFS, Better Battery Stats.
-After enabling all of them in EdXposed and restarting, I fire up Greenify and turn on all Xposed features and donation features but leave smart hibernation, ignore background free and aggressive doze off.
-Greenify all games, apps I use rarely and system apps like Camera, Print Spooler and Bookmark Provider
-Open Power Nap, select Endurance mode and whitelist Magisk, EdXposed, Greenify, Tasker, Messages, Phone, WhatsApp, BBS and LastPass (Power Nap seemed to disable it's autofill service)
-Start up Amplify so it does it's checks and exit
-Set up BBS
-Remove all these apps from OS battery optimisation
-Reboot to recovery and copy over the Amplify settings file to it's folder within data/data/Amplify folder/shared prefs and restart to system. (basic Google and app specific wakelocks you will find in all Amplify guides on XDA and nothing else)
-Add Play Store, Services, Framework, Google Pay and my banking app to Magisk Hide list and EdXposed blacklist to pass SafetyNet.
And this is where my problems start happening. This is what I have done for years and I never had issues. I suppose I could do these one at a time until I hit that wall where things go wrong, but thought I would ask here in case any of you can spot the mistake. Thanks in advance for the help or roasting lol
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If anyone has any other ideas to reduce battery drain, you can tell me. I'm trying to maximise both screen on and screen off time without compromising too much.

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