I am looking at buying a phone with a good camera for work, I work in the property business and now and again I will need to take a few snaps of houses for sale for a website. The camera on the 11 LITE 5G seems to have a good camera.
Any opinions if the camera on this is good enough for professional use ? Maybe it's asking too much but the phone is within my price range and any digital camera for the same price is going to have a pretty crappy lense.
Thanks
SurroundSound said:
camera good enough for professional use
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Matching DSLR? No.
Find the relatively good camera within your price range is enough.
What's needed is the knowledge of photography. How to take a photo good, or at least fair enough to satisfy customer is what you need.
No matter how good the camera is, people can take bad photos.
You can search and compare specs of phones: https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?
SurroundSound said:
I am looking at buying a phone with a good camera for work, I work in the property business and now and again I will need to take a few snaps of houses for sale for a website. The camera on the 11 LITE 5G seems to have a good camera.
Any opinions if the camera on this is good enough for professional use ? Maybe it's asking too much but the phone is within my price range and any digital camera for the same price is going to have a pretty crappy lense.
Thanks
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Quite honestly I would not recommend any Xiaomi phone for its camera.
Especially the Mi 11 Lite 5G (I have it) is somewhat disappointing, it punches lower than expected considered the phone's price. I would not recommend any particular phone because I don't know what your preferences are in terms of other stuff (and price brackets) but don't waste your time on the Mi 11 Lite 5G if you really need a good camera. This thing does not even have OIS.
Do NOT buy any phone without OIS (except Pixel series) if you ever want to shoot free-hand.
The upcoming Pixel Premium might be a good choice for you (it's not released yet.)
Samsung Ultra series (S21 Ultra, Note 20 Ultra) are also good.
Huawei has godlike cameras, but they cost an arm and a leg, and they don't have proper (sometimes any) Google Play support.
I mean, if you get a tripod, it helps a ton of course. But it can't fix a very bad phone camera. OnePlus cameras are bad. Even the 9 Pro camera is "bad". Bad compared to any other flagship brand. If you are on a budget, Pixel 4a series might be OK, but they don't produce high res pictures.
pl1992aw said:
Matching DSLR? No.
Find the relatively good camera within your price range is enough.
What's needed is the knowledge of photography. How to take a photo good, or at least fair enough to satisfy customer is what you need.
No matter how good the camera is, people can take bad photos.
You can search and compare specs of phones: https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?
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Truth.
Or get a used DSLR body and some used L glass for it.
Example:
Canon EOS-1DS Mark II, 16.7 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera (Camera Body)
Buy Canon EOS-1DS Mark II Digital Camera (Camera Body) Review Canon null
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In this review the quality of the camera seems really good for the price, what do you think ?
https://youtu.be/Un0FJCYKTcM
Seems he put alot of into the manual customization and got a good product. Seems like the low light camera as is, is pretty much a lost cause. Nothing too new
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In this review the quality of the camera seems really good for the price, what do you think ?
https://youtu.be/Un0FJCYKTcM
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I don't know if i would call it good for the price. It is a strange choice of camera sensor which seems like it was some kind of Samsung R&D experiment that didn't go quite right. The camera performs fine in prefect conditions, but the low light, the lens flaring, the AF hunt and slow re-focus, HDR ghosting, bad OIS, worse EIS... i hope it's software correctable but i don't think ZTE will put that much work into fixing it and I don't expect Samsung to help either (not in their interest). It has good manual controls except the focus locking, but that means you are bound to miss some shots or walk away with blur. Shame considering other specs, but camera is a big part of the phone now, it's probably the 3rd most reviewed feature after performance and design
Get a G5 if you care about the camera a lot. You can get them for $400 mint condition on ebay easily and the camera is pretty good. Not S7 good but close to second best.
Good, in-depth review
max1001 said:
Get a G5 if you care about the camera a lot. You can get them for $400 mint condition on ebay easily and the camera is pretty good. Not S7 good but close to second best.
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I would probably get HTC10 in that case, not a fan of LG. I am at this point waiting to see what new nexii will look like.
I agree that the G5 is also a good deal considering the price drop, but as I'm going to China next month I'm looking for the perfect chinese phone...
And yes, camera is an important feature of phones now.
Hi,
I am now looking to buy a camera focussed phone but do not want to spend a flagship budget. With a camera spec of 16mp and 21 mp, this seems to be the best non-flagship camera phone. Read few reviews but none give it a absolute buy rating. Wanted advice from real world users.
Are the cameras really good and are of the top quality atleast when compared to a phone like Oneplus 3T?
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Hi,
I am now looking to buy a camera focussed phone but do not want to spend a flagship budget. With a camera spec of 16mp and 21 mp, this seems to be the best non-flagship camera phone. Read few reviews but none give it a absolute buy rating. Wanted advice from real world users.
Are the cameras really good and are of the top quality atleast when compared to a phone like Oneplus 3T?
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Hi, I have a Oneplus3 and a XA Ultra at home. If you have to choose between them don't hesitate and get the OP3T XA Ultra have a good picture quality but very poor support from Sony, OP3 is a very little more expensive but have a very good support and a little better picture quality. "Screen on time" is near the same, overall performance of the OP3 is far better than the Ultra (and even better for the OP3T).
If it's only a budget question choose the Ultra.
Hello,
i have the oppertunity to buy an LG G6 for 360€ and i want a phone with a good camera. Is the G6 still its money worth? Or should i buy another phone, like a S7 or something?
G6 is still the best choice. I also just got it 3 weeks ago for 380€.
The cameras on the G6 are average, at best. I wouldn't recommend the S7 instead though, overall the G6 would be better.
Average? lol
my new g6 will arrive monday, if all goes well. i narrowed my choices to the g6, the s8, the mi mix 2 and the oneplus 5t. i chose the g6 because it's the cheapest, the smallest (i don't care for the curved display of the s8 a bit). for me the only thing against it is that it has the 2016 snapdragon, but i figured it will still be ok with my usage. otherwise the g6 seems on par (and in some respects better) than the other choices.
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Average? lol
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Yeah, that's right, G6 uses a IMX258 sensor which is REALLY awful for a flagship device.
If you're good and you plan using the Manual mode then go for G6, with Manual (thanks to the good lg software for camera) it takes beautiful photos, but if you plan to use the Auto Mode more go for something else.
Camera is trash.
Other features is decent.
Design is good (optional).
Software is stabile.
And why is it in your opinion trash?
Camera is decent with very natural colors. If you want more eye catchy processed pictures, then you have Google HDR+ camera port.
the camera is average. i would give it a 6. maybe 7 if you play with with manual mode. but front facing camera is totally horrible. a 3 at best.
The camera is excellent. Though that's only if you're using the GCam port. The LG app photo quality is just....bad.
My gf have s7 and she love my g6 camera so idk what you all talkb about s7 camera sucks
My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
Cant take photos lul
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My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
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G6 has a sensor of low budget phone, here is the list with other phones that use it: https://www.kimovil.com/en/list-smartphones-by-lens-model/sony-imx258
I'll repeat myself, if you're able to use manual mode at it's best then G6 can take beautiful photos if compared to any other flagship (beside in low light conditions and for the Front Camera), but in auto it sucks, and when i say "sucks" i compare it to other flagship devices, it does not take horrible photos like a 100 euros phone, but they're not as good as the photos taken with other flagship or in manual.
Don't believe it? I don't care, i just wanted to give you an answer based on my experience on almost 12 months with the G6, and after 10 months with G5, which, in Auto Mode, is still better.
And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera, the Auto Mode is always a compromise.
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And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera.
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Yes, and G5 is still better imho, obviously i'm always talking about auto mode, in manual it's a completely different story since the camera app on G6 is better than the one found on G5.
Take in count that the other flagships has also modded version of stock camera/porting, or other camera apps that improve considerably the performance of it.
As i said before the problem of G6 is that you start from a way worse sensor than competitors, that's it, you can do a lot trough software, but the hardware is still limited.
Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
Many cameras are looking supersaturated and thats not a sign for a good camera. Bud sadly many people like this unrealistic look.
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Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
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Probably because HTC's software is worse than the one found on LGs, better hardware doesn't necessary means better performance, power is nothing without control.
The most debatable thing is the Camera on G6. Just get the Gcam port and you'll never regret purchasing this device (Except the slow updates ). Its cheaper than Op5t and offers amazing screen and build quality over it. The Hi-Fi dac is fun to. And it's Ip68 water and dust resistant so it will handle Water dip easily . But if you prefer Latest hardware and high specs Op5t is the option. Although Lg G6 can handle all task easily too.
So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
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So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
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Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
Guntas ROMANA said:
Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
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Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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No bro nothing at all
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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No not often but it can happen. It's not really a deal breaker but the S8 I would say is the better phone because it's made by a better company, has a better screen (though smaller than the Poco) better 3rd party support. Yes the SOC is older than the SD845 bit all depends on what you want from a phone. I brought the Poco mainly because it has a headphone jack, a card slot and was in the price bracket of what I could afford and didn't want to buy a second hand phone
I replaced my s8 for the poco,the camera is decent if you use Gcam but of course is worse than the s8.
The battery life and the modding possibility are much better but you should decide what are you looking for in a phone before buying it.
The Samsung water resistance, wireless charging, amoled and NFC are hard to turn down, but a new F1 still wins in my book - bigger battery, better SoC, plus it's new
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes).
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
mecoromeo said:
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes). I just want to take a few good pictures to show my workflow and be done with it while using a flagship phone performance.
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
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To tell the truth I might take 10-15 pic a year so yeah not much of a camera guy. The reason I ask about the camera is because I'm a programmer and need some pics of my workflow so I though might as well take them with my new phone.
I will go for this only for the reason from where I am people here sell refurbished phones without saying it. A refurbished S8 (it might be) is worthless against a new phone. Also Xiomi is kind of known for custom roms.
ps: to the one saying S8 has better community. From what I could tell on xda the s8 didn't have much compared to xiomi phones ( I compared it to my note 4)
I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
Nope I would sell this for a s8 because it lacks so many features
Bad eis
No ois
No 60 fps in any mode
It's screen doesn't support real hdr its just plastic looking with very innaccurate colors.
The only purpose in upgrading would be the processor.
I think the only differences in this phone is that
The official dev community and the xda community are very active like posts each day.
But if you really want a phone for pubg this phone can handle it at hdr 60 fps 720p mode. It's viewing angles and lighting are about 75% of what you would get with an oled panel.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
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For me, I haven't experienced any lags. I'm on pie now btw. My only issue is for some reason they removed the system option to hide the notch(not really an issue since I use nacho notch a 3rd party app to remove notch). Everything works fine for me. I can run simultaneous programs with no lags, I can play heavy games with no stutters and the rom community is amazing.
As for your camera usage, it takes clear pictures and is sufficient enough (I use it sparingly since I'm not a picture buff). I use it sometimes for document scanning and it's clear enough to show the letters in the docs. For selfie and family pics, it's nice and adequate, though you shouldn't compare it to phones who specifically target photo buffs since the main point of poco is SD845 and I can say it's fast and smooth. Though as mentioned photog is good and adequate to take clear photos for normal use
Some people say there are issues but I haven't experienced any of them at all. No touch lag, no screen bleed and the Poco team really has good aftersales since they respond and really converse with their consumers (see xiaomi forum app about latest updates with Poco and you will see they do acknowledge most of the issues, unlike some manufacturers). I'd say for the price it is a snatch and I do hope they launch more of these "flagship killers"
Almsot forgot, there is one more thing you should be wary of, the notifications. I think you already know this but notifications do not stay in the status bar, so if I were you, use this mod. It moves the clock up a bit sk that the notifications will stay below it:
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notch-notification-mod/?codename=beryllium
And for more info
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notification-icons-for-notch-phones/
I would always recommend buying anything other than Samsung but as a Poco user my advice is, skip both and buy Oneplus 6, if you can find it somewhere affordable
So the china launch of the Mi 9 is today. Anyone buying it? I most likely will if it's around £450 for 8gb /128gb variant. I want me some Snapdragon 855 goodness.
No 4k60fps and 3300 battery? I will pass for the next phone when maybe they choose to upgrade the baseband to global 4g+
My next phone will be OnePlus or Pixel
Full specs
6.39” FHD+ AMOLED Display
Triple Camera
-48MP primary f/1.75
-12MP telephoto f/2.2
-16MP ultra-wide f/2.2
Front 20MP f/2.0 @Qualcomm Snapdragon 855
6GB RAM
64GB/128GB Storage
In-screen fingerprint sensor
3300mAh Battery
20W wireless charging
I'm so disappointed by the battery size. 3300mah is less than the Mi 8's battery.
Battery is not that important for me. The disappointing thing for me is lack of OIS. No matter how good the sensor is, OIS is a must have in my opinion. Sensor itself is small enough to have lots of struggle capturing enough light in poor light conditions, removing the OIS will only make the situation worse. I hope that they change their plans for Mi Mix 4 camera or whatever gonna be their next flagship.
The lack of OIS will be felt while capturing photos in low light. Its a big drawback for me
No OIS, no IP rating, no stereo speakers, smaller battery...no thanks!
No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
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No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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"DxO is not the best place?" Then where need check camera?
GSMarena? In my opinion the worst place to check the camera..
Hello.
In gsmarena picture compare tool, view 20 is much better with the same sensor, so it must be software.
Especially in lower light, mi9 is weaker than mi8 and also redmi note 7... Dxo mark score is not logical, maybe there are phones with diferrent software... Despite the score, it does not seem like a great camera, just average, a little bit weaker than mi8. But it has a wide sensor and better hw so, price wise....good enough phone and camera.
Mi 9 gives you sooo much for 500$, but you are looking for some meaningless details in pictures that no one will mention when you post it in FB, Instagaram, Twitter....etc. For sure ~2000$ phone makes much worst pictures for a bucket of money it costs
There is no such offer for hi-end hardware on the market and I`ll take advantage of it when Global version is out.
It has A LOT of things going for it:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9_specs_and_features_officially_revealed-news-35564.php
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_announces_more_mi_9_features-news-35578.php
But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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Same unless I can get it with those ebay discount codes cheaper. I'll probably go for the S10e.
What was the deal breaker is probably no OIS and low light photos suck.
My next phone will be pixel
After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
droiduser said:
After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
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I think they pledged to make it simpler, imagine with that the Mi 9 Xiaomi has already provided the source code lol.