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Hey guys!
I am thinking about buying this phone this month. But I just have one question. I know that I can't expect the pictures from the camera to be able to hold up to other flagship phones but how is it compared to the Nexus 4?
I currently own a Nexus 4 and the camera is average. If the camera of the Z ultra is better than the nexus 4 then I'll buy it tomorrow
But if not, then I may buy the Z1. Although I really want the Z Ultra because I want a bigger screen.
If possible can you also post actual pictures taken from the Z ultra and the Nexus 4 so that I can compare them?
Thanks in advance!
You could have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395123
In my opinion, the Nexus 4 takes way better photos than the Z Ultra. It is more or less accepted around here that camera quality is one thing you sacrifice by buying this device. The pictures just tend to look washed out I'd say. But there are some who feel it is adequate
Also, just look right below your thread... An entire thread dedicated to discussing why the camera is so bad, hehe
Well if your phone is main imaging device, better look elsewhere, but if you own SLR you'll know none of the smartphone can actually achieve a good SLR quality (maybe the 1020 but then again) so for me for instance, doesn't bother much about the camera. At least it can capture the moment for me.
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life YES
IPXX Certification YES
Magnetic/fast charging YES
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs YES
5 poles audio jack YES
Memory card support YES
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6 YES
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night YES
The fastest mobile GPU available YES
Mini/Compact body desing YES
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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SO YES Upgrade to XZ5c
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[email protected] said:
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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Bro, just get the Z5 compact......unless if you are picky on the design and pricey, then get the Z3 compact
Okay
So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
[email protected] said:
So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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That's true at this moment. The manufacturers are all looking for the big screens.[emoji174]
㊙Send from somewhere on the earth™ ?
I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
Unfortunately, the Z5 compact is the only hi-end (2015) Android phone with small size. Your other 2015 option is the iPhone 6S but it has a totally different OS as you probably know.
Other old options are:
Z3 compact: still a good phone, still supported, not too old.
Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
itaq said:
I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
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Yeah, I read that about the volume button position. But, Ok, it's nothing really severe.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 too. Do you feel the camera better or worse? (I really like the HDR+ quality of the Nexus 5).
I have moved from Z3c into Z5c and I can't complain. The only issue i have is its little but slippy but my old iPhone was that too.
Build quality is very good as well as screen and speakers (which are btw louder than in Z3c)
New UI looks more vanilla which if you are Nexus fan a good think (I am )
I havent tested camera yet nor battery life but it drops around 4% in 7 hours standby (considering push emails, bt on)
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Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I recently sold an unlocked Moto X 2013 and it had Lollipop on it. I doubt it will get updated again but it was good to get it to 5.1.
About z5c vs nexus 5 camera: I can't compare because after I dropped my nexus, the camera became useless. It could not focus anymore.
There is a local store selling the international version of the Moto Z Droid (32GB) on sale for the equivalent of U$375.
Is the phone still a good buy today at that price? Why?
Yes it is in my opinion.
It's a great phone but the camera isn't the best. It's a good camera but just not the best, The pixel, s7, s8, and Iphone 7 have better cameras.
That price is a little high and you can get it cheaper on swappa or ebay.
Thanks for the feedback.
I decided to go for it and so far, very happy. The phone seems to have very nice build quality with a premium feel to it, beautiful display and even the camera is not too bad. I like the thin design.
I also really like the motion sensing feature which displays time and notifications when the screen is off and its also nice to have a front-facing speaker.
It may not be right up there with the latest flagships but the internal hardware is still very decent and I still consider it near flagship level.
I am looking at buying a phone with a good camera for work, I work in the property business and now and again I will need to take a few snaps of houses for sale for a website. The camera on the 11 LITE 5G seems to have a good camera.
Any opinions if the camera on this is good enough for professional use ? Maybe it's asking too much but the phone is within my price range and any digital camera for the same price is going to have a pretty crappy lense.
Thanks
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camera good enough for professional use
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Matching DSLR? No.
Find the relatively good camera within your price range is enough.
What's needed is the knowledge of photography. How to take a photo good, or at least fair enough to satisfy customer is what you need.
No matter how good the camera is, people can take bad photos.
You can search and compare specs of phones: https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?
SurroundSound said:
I am looking at buying a phone with a good camera for work, I work in the property business and now and again I will need to take a few snaps of houses for sale for a website. The camera on the 11 LITE 5G seems to have a good camera.
Any opinions if the camera on this is good enough for professional use ? Maybe it's asking too much but the phone is within my price range and any digital camera for the same price is going to have a pretty crappy lense.
Thanks
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Quite honestly I would not recommend any Xiaomi phone for its camera.
Especially the Mi 11 Lite 5G (I have it) is somewhat disappointing, it punches lower than expected considered the phone's price. I would not recommend any particular phone because I don't know what your preferences are in terms of other stuff (and price brackets) but don't waste your time on the Mi 11 Lite 5G if you really need a good camera. This thing does not even have OIS.
Do NOT buy any phone without OIS (except Pixel series) if you ever want to shoot free-hand.
The upcoming Pixel Premium might be a good choice for you (it's not released yet.)
Samsung Ultra series (S21 Ultra, Note 20 Ultra) are also good.
Huawei has godlike cameras, but they cost an arm and a leg, and they don't have proper (sometimes any) Google Play support.
I mean, if you get a tripod, it helps a ton of course. But it can't fix a very bad phone camera. OnePlus cameras are bad. Even the 9 Pro camera is "bad". Bad compared to any other flagship brand. If you are on a budget, Pixel 4a series might be OK, but they don't produce high res pictures.
pl1992aw said:
Matching DSLR? No.
Find the relatively good camera within your price range is enough.
What's needed is the knowledge of photography. How to take a photo good, or at least fair enough to satisfy customer is what you need.
No matter how good the camera is, people can take bad photos.
You can search and compare specs of phones: https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?
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Truth.
Or get a used DSLR body and some used L glass for it.
Example:
Canon EOS-1DS Mark II, 16.7 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera (Camera Body)
Buy Canon EOS-1DS Mark II Digital Camera (Camera Body) Review Canon null
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A few hands-on reviews are out. The consensus is decidedly mediocre. Disappointingly so.
Some common themes: battery life not great, device runs hot, and surprising to me, the camera in basic auto mode is really not that great. Causing me to rethink my pre-order.
https://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-1-III-Review_id5164
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Early...-heel-for-the-US-1-299-99-phone.549203.0.html
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/sony-xperia-1-iii-review-it-could-have-been-magnificent-phone/
Another review. More detailed, and equally underwhelming.
Sony Xperia 1 III review
The Xperia 1 III launches with an asking price of $1300/€1300, and even if that includes a pair of noise-canceling headphones in most regions, the number...
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count me in too on questioning my pre order. not sure what i'm going to do but leaning towards cancelling.
Last review I will post as they are all consistent:
My requirements are a headphone jack and micro SD storage. So I'm stuck as no other premium phone offers both. My only other option is a Moto G, I'm not inclined to move that far down the performance ladder.
The reviews got me thinking whether the Xperia 5 III may be a better choice. In principle, the screen should be less demanding on the same sized battery... Other downside is the lack of ToF sensor which I'm still not sure how much it downgrades the image quality of the otherwise same camera setup.
I mainly want this as my pocket camera. I find the cnet review as promising. He was impressed by the cameras, all of them. With any smartphone camera, imo you should only use the telephoto cameras outdoors in good light. He got some nice images with all 4 focal lengths of the camera. I'm now confident I can get some nice photos with the telephoto lenses, especially when using the pro camera app and choosing ISO and shutter speed. as far as the cnet review he disliked the price and the battery life. But he had a pre production unit and battery life is the last thing addressed usually with new software and devices. I'm kind of excited again.
elwuero said:
I mainly want this as my pocket camera. I find the cnet review as promising. He was impressed by the cameras, all of them. With any smartphone camera, imo you should only use the telephoto cameras outdoors in good light. He got some nice images with all 4 focal lengths of the camera. I'm now confident I can get some nice photos with the telephoto lenses, especially when using the pro camera app and choosing ISO and shutter speed. as far as the cnet review he disliked the price and the battery life. But he had a pre production unit and battery life is the last thing addressed usually with new software and devices. I'm kind of excited again.
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I think all the reviews I read, including this most recent one from Android Authority, are critical of the camera in low light settings. Another issue for me as I like to get a photo or two at concerts.
Sony Xperia 1 III review: Elegant, exhilarating, expensive
Sony's flagship smartphone packs some of the best hardware around, but should you buy it? Find out in this Sony Xperia 1 III review.
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gmfeld said:
I think all the reviews I read, including this most recent one from Android Authority, are critical of the camera in low light settings. Another issue for me as I like to get a photo or two at concerts.
Sony Xperia 1 III review: Elegant, exhilarating, expensive
Sony's flagship smartphone packs some of the best hardware around, but should you buy it? Find out in this Sony Xperia 1 III review.
www.androidauthority.com
they reject the phones night mode. Just go into the manual mode and do an exposure adjustment according to the histogram. Or just adjust the shutter speed and iso yourself and you should get a fantastic picture. Takes literally 7-8 seconds. And then you'll have the settings ready to go to take as many pictures as you want at the concert.
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I haven't cancelled my pre order (yet). i can live with only using the main camera in low light. at f1.7 the photos should be good and the reviews so far seem to support that.
from this review all i can say is as long as you know how to use the camera, all photos should look good. on my xperia 1 ii i would almost always shoot in program mode and would just keep the iso at 100 and occasionally raise it to 320. in this review he seems to be doing the same thing. love the histogram on screen, so helpful.
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from this review all i can say is as long as you know how to use the camera, all photos should look good. on my xperia 1 ii i would almost always shoot in program mode and would just keep the iso at 100 and occasionally raise it to 320. in this review he seems to be doing the same thing. love the histogram on screen, so helpful.
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I used a 1 Ii for quite some time and was able to get great pictures in program mode by just fiddling with the exposure compensation while looking at the histogram. Takes like 5 seconds and you've got a great picture. I guessing the 3 will take very similar pictures.
elwuero said:
count me in too on questioning my pre order. not sure what i'm going to do but leaning towards cancelling.
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You can always play with it for a few days and re-sell it for the same price as an "open box" product. It will certainly work if you live in the country where Sony doesn't sell phones officially and you have to import your device.
gmfeld said:
Last review I will post as they are all consistent:
My requirements are a headphone jack and micro SD storage. So I'm stuck as no other premium phone offers both. My only other option is a Moto G, I'm not inclined to move that far down the performance ladder.
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I bought LG V60 ThinQ for around $350 (4 times cheaper than Xperia!) for exactly the same reasons. Yes, it doesn't look as sexy as Xperia 1 III but it has plenty of power (more than I actually need), great battery life, best in business sound, not getting hot as hell etc.
It's all theory. To get any good night shot on Xperia 1 III you'll have to use stand and bluetooth shutter button. I used to had Xperia 1 II / 5 II and taking night photos with Xperia handheld was impossible. Don't think that Xperia 1 III is different.
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I used a 1 Ii for quite some time and was able to get great pictures in program mode by just fiddling with the exposure compensation while looking at the histogram. Takes like 5 seconds and you've got a great picture. I guessing the 3 will take very similar pictures.
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Too much effort for $1300 smartphone to my opinion.
Not a complete review but I found this video entertaining.
btw, I decided to not cancel my pre order. B&H says I will have 30 days to return. I expect it will be my main camera/phone for at least a year.
Waiting on my pre order to arrive soon.
I really like my 1II and look foresees to the III. The only other phone that gets me excited is the Pixel 6 (if it doesn't have a curved screen)
Can't ever go Chinese as I need updates decently on schedule. Samsung has dropped prices a bit but no sd card and the same cameras and worse screen...
Their ultra is too heavy for comfortable one hand usage
I bailed on the Experia and cancelled my order with B&H. Going to get the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. No headphone jack and no sd storage slot, but I couldn't get comfortable with the Experia reviews I was reading, particularly the camera.
I had the ultra also. Traded it in while it was still worth a lot. The weight and one handed use was not my favorite and its hard to get a glass screen protector that works with the ultrasonic finger print reader. It didn't have enough memory and with no sd card I was forced to stream music.
But it takes great pics.
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I bailed on the Experia and cancelled my order with B&H. Going to get the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. No headphone jack and no sd storage slot, but I couldn't get comfortable with the Experia reviews I was reading, particularly the camera.
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The same. Really kept my finger on pre-order button for a week but after numerous rather underwhelming camera performance reviews decided to buy nearly 3 times cheaper Galaxy S21.