Dear friends,
I am posting because i am not able to find any information related to this. I am aware of DEX, PRoot, Anlinux, Androlinux, etc. etc., but this is NOT about using VNC or any kind of garbage like that.
What I would like to know is if it is possible to BOOT NATIVELY a Linux distribution that works on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+? SO, for example, I power it on and it boots to Ubuntu, Manjaro, Debian, or whatever.
Thank you.
poincare said:
Dear friends,
I am posting because i am not able to find any information related to this. I am aware of DEX, PRoot, Anlinux, Androlinux, etc. etc., but this is NOT about using VNC or any kind of garbage like that.
What I would like to know is if it is possible to BOOT NATIVELY a Linux distribution that works on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+? SO, for example, I power it on and it boots to Ubuntu, Manjaro, Debian, or whatever.
Thank you.
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Nope.
poincare said:
Dear friends,
I am posting because i am not able to find any information related to this. I am aware of DEX, PRoot, Anlinux, Androlinux, etc. etc., but this is NOT about using VNC or any kind of garbage like that.
What I would like to know is if it is possible to BOOT NATIVELY a Linux distribution that works on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+? SO, for example, I power it on and it boots to Ubuntu, Manjaro, Debian, or whatever.
Thank you.
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Of course it's possible. Ubports is working on some tablets currently. We don't know the likelihood that developers will figure out how to boot such a system on THIS tablet.
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Anyone try out the Ubuntu Installer on the Play Store with the TFP( link below ) I wanna give it a go but was wondering what other peoples experience with it is first. I saw there is a way to run Ubuntu nativly on our device, but it seems like it may be a bit 'new' ( as in driver support etc... ) which I'd be ok with, but the dual boot process seems like a pain to have to change the boot image everytime you want to use it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ubuntuinstallpaid&feature=more_from_developer
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Anyone try out the Ubuntu Installer on the Play Store with the TFP( link below ) I wanna give it a go but was wondering what other peoples experience with it is first. I saw there is a way to run Ubuntu nativly on our device, but it seems like it may be a bit 'new' ( as in driver support etc... ) which I'd be ok with, but the dual boot process seems like a pain to have to change the boot image everytime you want to use it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ubuntuinstallpaid&feature=more_from_developer
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Hi
Yes, I have been messing wth it since I got my Prime a few months ago (running Linux on it was the reason I bought in the first place). Like you, the native stuff seems a little too "fresh" and the risk of a brick a bit too much.
Anyway, the Linux Installers Zac is doing can work well on the Prime. There is an issue with the Ubuntu 12.04 Unity at present which I have not been able to figure out as I can't deal with Unity for longer than bout 60 seconds before reaching for Xfce anyway.
I have had good results using the Ubuntu 12.04 image and installing Xfce. The VNC client you choose makes a huge difference. I have found Jump Desktop by far the best (middle and right mouse buttons, scroll wheel, dock keyboard all work great) and it is quite close to using it natively.
The real downer with the chroot methods is there does not appear to be any way to do it except by running the GUI/X as root while in Ubuntu. Not really a workable option for any long term use. This is down to how Android handles permissions and the use of TCP/UDP ports. If you try to run the VNC server as anything other than root you just get a permission failure. I have not been able to figure out a way around this yet.
Worth the download to try it out.
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I'd like to ask a serious question here.. and I'm not trying to put down Ubuntu or anything - if you're into Linux, it's a good choice...
But..
*Why* would someone want to take an Android tablet and install an OS that's not really tablet friendly on it? What's the benefits?
Unless you plan to keep it in the dock all the time - then why not just buy a netbook?
What am I missing here?
You don't have to take two devices with you if you have Ubuntu installed on Transformer. If you had a tablet AND a netbook the weight would be doubled... Netbooks also have poor screens and probably less battery life.
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I'd like to ask a serious question here.. and I'm not trying to put down Ubuntu or anything - if you're into Linux, it's a good choice...
But..
*Why* would someone want to take an Android tablet and install an OS that's not really tablet friendly on it? What's the benefits?
Unless you plan to keep it in the dock all the time - then why not just buy a netbook?
What am I missing here?
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Versatility, choice, and because we can
Android is great for some things but a lot of what I do would be much better done in a Linux environment. The Prime has replaced my laptop, and having a dual boot option would make it pretty much the perfect piece of kit for me.
I didnt realise this was available !
I will be giving it a go as soon as i get home!!
Would prefer a native install, but this looks pretty easy and quick to do, so i'll give it a shot.
And another nice thing we are not able to use because of missing root rights
I really hope somebody finds and publishes a new way to gain root. (without unlocking)
Running Linux on it was also a reason for my to chose the Prime.
Great comments all... Personally I want Linux on the Prime for some of the reasons above ( portability, not having to carry two machines, "because we can" lol ) however I mostly want it because it should offer a much better development environment on the Prime which would be great. Still haven't gotten it up and running yet, but bought everything I need, should be able to play today
will installing ubuntu thru this app break future ota updates? I do have root, but i only use it for a working ipsec vpn right now
Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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Haven't tried that one yet, gonna start with 10.10 large, then move to 12.04 after...
Do you have to unlock prime to use this? I have root, but it says something about needing kernel or something on the app.
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will installing ubuntu thru this app break future ota updates? I do have root, but i only use it for a working ipsec vpn right now
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No it shouldn't have any affect. It does not touch anything outside of /data/local (or wherever you install the ubuntu.img file - could be your sdcard) - no system files are changed.
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Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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I think there was an issue with the Full V1 file. The dev re-uploaded today so you might try it again. However, the default Unity interface on Full does not seem to work on the Prime for whatever reason (Tegra 3 differences it has been said) so it might not be worth the effort until that is fixed. Firefox also does not work (I have never got Firefox of Chrome to work on any of these builds)
The older Ubuntu version (10.10 was it?) works fine, except Firefox just crashes, and Midori is the only currently working browser
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Do you have to unlock prime to use this? I have root, but it says something about needing kernel or something on the app.
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Your kernel needs to support the loop device which is the way that the ubuntu.img file gets "mounted" on the system. I dont recall if the stock kernel supports this but I would be surprised if it doesn't
Stock kernel apparently has the loop device, as I have been able to run Ubuntu on stock (rooted of course).
Thanks for info on new upload of 12.04 full. Didnt you say you installed Xfce and 12.04 worked well?
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Stock kernel apparently has the loop device, as I have been able to run Ubuntu on stock (rooted of course).
Thanks for info on new upload of 12.04 full. Didnt you say you installed Xfce and 12.04 worked well?
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Yes, Xfce I find works well. Just did not know how much effort you might be willing to put into it
Bit of advice - don't use "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to change to Xfce. That wants to install a ton of stuff that is not needed. Just try installing the the meta package "xfce4" and then add the other bits you want. I then removed the Unity desktop and it booted straight in to Xfce.
Edit: Actually, in this 12.04 image doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" does not appear to be as bad. A previous image wanted to download 750Mb of stuff!
Edit2: Oh, and to get xfce loading instead of Unity, you need to edit /root/.vnx/xstartup and change the last line:
/etc/X11/Xsession
to be
startxfce4
..then restart the linux chroot by typing exit
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Yes, Xfce I find works well. Just did not know how much effort you might be willing to put into it
Bit of advice - don't use "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to change to Xfce. That wants to install a ton of stuff that is not needed. Just try installing the the meta package "xfce4" and then add the other bits you want. I then removed the Unity desktop and it booted straight in to Xfce.
Edit: Actually, in this 12.04 image doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" does not appear to be as bad. A previous image wanted to download 750Mb of stuff!
Edit2: Oh, and to get xfce loading instead of Unity, you need to edit /root/.vnx/xstartup and change the last line:
/etc/X11/Xsession
to be
startxfce4
..then restart the linux chroot by typing exit
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Great info I have the 10.10 full image up and running and Firefox does seem to be working fine for me "out of the box". Think I'm going to try the 12 image and Xfce next.
Anyone have any optimization tips and tricks to get this running as fast as possible? I'm trying the Jump VNC client, seems pretty nice, just need to get some kind of gesture to hide the tablets nav bar as it covers the screen.
Hey Barryflanagan, I'm playing with Zac's images and I am wondering if you got ubuntu to read any external storage media plugged into the dock : like sdcard or usb external drive. I don't know if it's because of the dock proper, or ubuntu, or chroot, but I got the prime on ubuntu to read microsd on the prime proper but nothing routing through the dock..
As to why I'd want both linux and android, most of the time I'm fine with android, sometimes with the dock sometimes without. I don't have a laptop anymore and 2 weeks ago I happened to get to my first need that android couldn't handle: I have to trim and clean 10 000+ files of music library with many copies and variations by file names, lengths, quality, and tags, and to pick the good tracks manually, and nothing on the android's ecosystem is as good or useful as mediamonkey. I've had to borrow a laptop from somebody to get the job done. I'm pretty sure in linux I could have found a working application-- if the usb hard drive for those 70gigs could have been recognized through the dock. Anyway -- also, some more intensive work like the occasional flyer or poster I design for friends.
By the way, have anyone tried to get Wine working on the chroot ubuntu? Maybe with kernel overclocked to 1.8 it might work?
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Is it possible to run Ubuntu offline, like without VNC, or do you need internet to use it? I followed the instructions on the app and connected with vnc. I would rather use splashtop and connect to my desktop if ubuntu cant be run offline.
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Is it possible to run Ubuntu offline, like without VNC, or do you need internet to use it? I followed the instructions on the app and connected with vnc. I would rather use splashtop and connect to my desktop if ubuntu cant be run offline.
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I'm confused as to what you're asking. Technically, Ubuntu is running offline. You're only connecting to the GUI over VNC. You do not need internet.
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Parastie said:
I'm confused as to what you're asking. Technically, Ubuntu is running offline. You're only connecting to the GUI over VNC. You do not need internet.
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Ah, I see. But what use has ubuntu without the GUI? I'm obviously new to this, but I assumed that you could use the ubuntu OS offline. Like open and use programs like open office. How would you be using ubuntu if you were at a place without internet?
Hi all,
this may be a silly question, and i apologise if its already been asked....
so on my Windows 7 laptop, i want to run some old programs...i use the Windows XP virtual machine feature....
is there an equivalent app for ANDROID that i can install on my HDX8.9 that would effectively allow me to run a stock rom 'inside' the virtual machine?
...and obviously get full play access ....or there would be little point.
obivously there would most likely be performance issues etc. and you are running and O/S within an O/S which some may find confusing or cumbersome.
just a thought....anyone know?
regards
Dale
Safestrap I believe. 13.3.1 or 14. You have your original OS and then allow you to create another Android OS(kinda).
I think I missed the whole idea you were getting at...
purec0de said:
Hi all,
this may be a silly question, and i apologise if its already been asked....
so on my Windows 7 laptop, i want to run some old programs...i use the Windows XP virtual machine feature....
is there an equivalent app for ANDROID that i can install on my HDX8.9 that would effectively allow me to run a stock rom 'inside' the virtual machine?
...and obviously get full play access ....or there would be little point.
obivously there would most likely be performance issues etc. and you are running and O/S within an O/S which some may find confusing or cumbersome.
just a thought....anyone know?
regards
Dale
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There is a way to mount linux in a rooted device- without actually installing it. Oracle might have worked around that- but the problem with a virtual machine is they are not actually installed. Something as easy to run as android could work- but seriously, that could work.
purec0de said:
Hi all,
this may be a silly question, and i apologise if its already been asked....
so on my Windows 7 laptop, i want to run some old programs...i use the Windows XP virtual machine feature....
is there an equivalent app for ANDROID that i can install on my HDX8.9 that would effectively allow me to run a stock rom 'inside' the virtual machine?
...and obviously get full play access ....or there would be little point.
obivously there would most likely be performance issues etc. and you are running and O/S within an O/S which some may find confusing or cumbersome.
just a thought....anyone know?
regards
Dale
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Your only option is an emulator, since windows runs on x86 and kindle has arm. Snapdragon 800 might be powerfull enough to emulate a windows xp, but be prepaired for serious perfomance issues. You should use the oldest version of windows that your software runs on. But for native android apps use 1mobile market.
Thanks all for the responses....just to clarify, what I was trying to ask is is there an app for android like the Virtual PC app on Windows that runs Android.....so I would be running a sandboxed android on android lol, kinda hoping for an alternative solution to the current root crisis....I.e. I have no root and its really frustrating that the awesome hardware in my HDX is crippled by not being able to access the play store....never mind the fact I can't load additional keyboards or wallpapers etc.
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I'm sure you could run it in chroot, you'd have to create a bash script to boot it
purec0de said:
Thanks all for the responses....just to clarify, what I was trying to ask is is there an app for android like the Virtual PC app on Windows that runs Android.....so I would be running a sandboxed android on android lol, kinda hoping for an alternative solution to the current root crisis....I.e. I have no root and its really frustrating that the awesome hardware in my HDX is crippled by not being able to access the play store....never mind the fact I can't load additional keyboards or wallpapers etc.
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No there is no application that allow that which I am aware of. But this almost what safestrap does.
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Hi.
I'm new here, so apologies in advance if i ask a question that was handled in a previous thread.
I'm looking for a decent app that will allow me to control an android device from a pc. I have a tablet that is being used as a kiosk device and i would like to connect remotely and check the status of apps, run scripts, generally just troubleshoot issues that might pop up from time to time. I would like screen sharing also, that would make things a lot easier. I've tried webkey, teamviewer, airdroid but none of them give me the kind of functionality I need
At the moment I'm using a Nexus 7, but I'd like the app to work on any device. In future we might start using generic android devices, nothing brand-specific.
Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated
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Hi.
I'm new here, so apologies in advance if i ask a question that was handled in a previous thread.
I'm looking for a decent app that will allow me to control an android device from a pc. I have a tablet that is being used as a kiosk device and i would like to connect remotely and check the status of apps, run scripts, generally just troubleshoot issues that might pop up from time to time. I would like screen sharing also, that would make things a lot easier. I've tried webkey, teamviewer, airdroid but none of them give me the kind of functionality I need
At the moment I'm using a Nexus 7, but I'd like the app to work on any device. In future we might start using generic android devices, nothing brand-specific.
Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated
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Hey,
once there was ShareKM the dev kinda dropped the projekt. I found some Guides for it because the old version stopped working.
Here is the original thread ShareKM on XDA
If you read it a bit they start to talk about the workarounds.
Hope that helps you I'm also very interested in this.
i found app that will help you to remotely control your tablet
BBQ Screen Remote Control
screen.bbqdroid.org/
it is a paid app
but you can search and download its apk in google
shubham1358 said:
BBQ Screen Remote Control
screen.bbqdroid.org/
it is a paid app
but you can search and download its apk in google
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Thanks. But as far as I can see, this only works if the pc and android device are on the same network. My kiosk devices are hundreds of kilometers away, so I need something that works over the internet
Hello everybody,
I was wondering if there is a X86 release of Ubuntu Touch, to try on a touch-enabled notebook. Anyone knows?
There is the ubuntu-desktop-next distribution which currently shows the tablet/smartphone UI: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/
BUT don't forget these are daily builds. Things might be broken on those.
Sent from my awesome Ubuntu Touch device using the Forum Browser app
Thanks I didn't know that. I am currently downloading it. Is the switch feature already pre-installed in the live?
Talking about that, what is this about?
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
PC (Intel x86) preinstalled touch image
For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
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Thanks I didn't know that. I am currently downloading it. Is the switch feature already pre-installed in the live?
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Which switch feature do you mean?
fparri said:
Talking about that, what is this about?
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
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Ubuntu Desktop Next is a Ubuntu distribution which is based on the PC images but uses Unity 8 (the new desktop environment) and Mir (the new display server). It was set up to check the current state of Unity 8 and Mir on the desktop and will be used for the development of the Unity 8 desktop version. Since the work on the desktop version hasn't started yet, it still shows the tablet version though.
Oh, one last note: Last time I tried, it did not work with Virtual Box or VM Ware. I don't think this has changed yet.
Thanks for helping me out.
My last link was about "Ubuntu Touch 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Daily Build".
Have you tried this, too, by any chance?
Sorry, I did not see it was a link to Ubuntu Touch builds. I haven't seen those x86 builds before. If you get them to work, please tell me.
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nikwen said:
Sorry, I did not see it was a link to Ubuntu Touch builds. I haven't seen those x86 builds before. If you get them to work, please tell me.
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Sure. I will try and run them on a PC, one of these days, as soon a I find one which I can format
Can we install Windows 10 on the S7/S7+?
LMFAO
Please tell me you're kidding?
Yes we can.
FAQ
It's not as stupid of a question as you guys make it seem. Windows 10 ARM version exists (but there is no way to get a legal license and/or installation media for it) for the Surface Pro X and a few other devices. Of course there would most likely be no drivers, but in theory Win 10 COULD be possibly.. but yea in reality it's not at the moment.
Is anybody able to use a windows emulator? I tried Linux on it but wondering if there's a better way to use Windows apps if I need to other than remoting into my PC
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IFNg said:
Is anybody able to use a windows emulator? I tried Linux on it but wondering if there's a better way to use Windows apps if I need to other than remoting into my PCi highly appreciate your factual statement, thankyou for elaboration, i wasn't aware of much of the info.
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I've found a few solutions to this. Ibochs works but is basically unusable. TeamViewer allows you to wake up your home PC and control it. This works surprisingly well if you have a good connection. Microsoft also has an app called Azure that lets you use a virtual desktop for less than $.01/hr if you can't wake up your home PC over ip for some reason
I'm going to go out on a limb here and use a throwback analogy... Much like a free ride from a partner with an STD... Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should... LOL