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You have no idea how happy I am this ROM exists!! But I cannot get SMS working. I get FC's on every SMS app I try including Hangouts. Anybody else getting this and/or have a remedy? Thanks
I was about to post the same error here, I have an Amaze with Videotron, S-Off, Super CID, HBOOT-1.93.2222 (JuopunutBear), TWRP as a recovery.
I tried everything, I tried different Gapps, I also tried without installing Gapps, I tried sms apps from the Play Store and Hangouts too. The only thing I haven't tried is formatting my internal SD card. (it was a clean install, all formatted and cache cleared). I also tried switching to ART but I had the same problems.
Everytime I try to just open the sms apps, the app crashes. I managed to see the error once and it was something about SQL but it might be a misinterpretation from my part.
Calls, 4G and WiFi were all working perfectly too.
After some research on Google, I tried installing busybox, xposed framework and uninstalling Voice+, but nothing works. The basic messaging app just closes without any kind of message and other apps show that it stopped working.
(I tried the Evervolv rom 4.4 and SMS were working on that one, maybe it's a setting with my network type as I am on Videotron in Canada and it is using AWS, maybe a setting under *#*#4636*#*# ??)
I want to contribute and sen some log of that error, how can I do that? I am familiar with roms, kernels, etc but not that much with logs... I tried many roms before and never got that specific problem...
Thanks to anyone who can help with this issue!
It's not just you SMS simply doesn't work on this rom and I was surprised to see that no one else pointed this out in the original thread. The default Messaging app closes immediately when you try and open it. Other SMS apps also crash either immediately upon opening them, or when you try to send a message (hangouts & SMS Pro for example). This is the only thing keeping me from using this amazing rom as my DD.
I have the same exact problem with SMS- will try the evervolv 4.4 though was really looking forward to CM11
Edit: also didnt have any other problems with the rom except for the black boxes and the camera
Let's hope there is a way to fix it!
I would post the question in the official thread but I do not have enough posts to do so unfortunately
Heck I couldn't even try SMS due to the black box issue, that's why I didn't mention it in the original thread.
For those with the black box issue--are you using the correct gapps?
In olden days there were some issues with some google things not working, and people uninstalling the ones that came in gapps and downloading them fresh from the play store.
Have you gone into recovery and fixed permissions?
Again, in days of yore, this might straighten some things out.
Is it possible that black-boxing has something to do with CPU frequency, and is it possible to tweak up the speed through developer options and lose the boxes?
I haven't tried this rom yet, as I'm currently sticking with the stable(r) cm10.
Good luck.
anybody get the SMS working on this ROM so far?
pbergonzi said:
For those with the black box issue--are you using the correct gapps?
In olden days there were some issues with some google things not working, and people uninstalling the ones that came in gapps and downloading them fresh from the play store.
Have you gone into recovery and fixed permissions?
Again, in days of yore, this might straighten some things out.
Is it possible that black-boxing has something to do with CPU frequency, and is it possible to tweak up the speed through developer options and lose the boxes?
I haven't tried this rom yet, as I'm currently sticking with the stable(r) cm10.
Good luck.
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The black box issue has nothing to do with GPU or CPU speeds. There are discussions on the dev threads. The issue affects other legacy devices on various KK based source builds, not just Amaze and CM. The consensus is this seems to be related to the default browser which has changed in KK. This would also explain why it effects other gapps too.
MS92 said:
anybody get the SMS working on this ROM so far?
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Not that I'm aware of.
Media Issues
The ROM is pretty good for the most part.
I just have this problem where Play Music gives this error, "Cannot play the music track you requested"
I clear my media storage and try to rescan my SD card but none of the apps work. They all crash.
Is there anyway to fix this?
ranwal said:
The ROM is pretty good for the most part.
I just have this problem where Play Music gives this error, "Cannot play the music track you requested"
I clear my media storage and try to rescan my SD card but none of the apps work. They all crash.
Is there anyway to fix this?
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Maybe app settings for the app and Erase App Data?
can i get a link for the updated adreno drivers? thanks!
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can i get a link for the updated adreno drivers? thanks!
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Yes you can its on last three pages of orignal thread you also have to sign up for that
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as the OP says and i quote that only non working things are
1. camera exposure
2. tethering
but as the thread goes ahead we read more prolems/bugs
May i ask what is the current status for bugs/not working and other issues and what has been fixed and any other stuff we should flash over the ROM like driver, may it be upoaded to the OP for ease as its reall hard to search for those things on mobile app. thank you and good luck.
Anyone else have issue disabling their microphone while in a call? I tried with both the speaker phone and regular handset mode, the "no mic" icon enables but my caller can still hear me. The Hold button seems to work fine though.
FYI, it took a while for the battery to figure itself out. I wiped the battery stats before flashing everything and the first few days I got a lot of jumping battery levels. I let it charge all the way down as much as I could then rebooted and did a full charge and rebooted again and then full charge again. That seemed to reset the battery level to the correct state.
I also , enabled Device/GPS only for the location detection other wise the google services at 50% or more battery.
I'm running the 2014-02-16 build, with the updated video drivers.
Camera is not working
I have also installed this pacman rom 4.4.2. all is well instead of camera.
Any updates for the camera isssue??
Shahxz said:
I have also installed this pacman rom 4.4.2. all is well instead of camera.
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Since PAC uses the CM device tree for its source any issues with CM will also be evident in PAC. Until the CM devs are able to resolve the camera exposure issue it will exist in both ROMs.
Librastar said:
Any updates for the camera isssue??
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Think about your question for a minute. Have you seen any recent posts in the CM dev thread indicating an update which solves this issue? If you had just taken a moment to look at the dev thread instead of posting this you would have answered your own question. It's not like the CM-11 thread is incredibly long, it's only 28 pages total. This post is just laziness on your part and an unnecessary waste of bandwidth.
is there any alternate app in the market, i tried couple of apps but nothing useful
@Odysseus1962
If I were to compile AOSP, which variant would you suggest for me to build?
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I have a Nexus 5, unmodified and unrooted on 4.4.4
I disabled background data recently because I was running out.
I noticed that the Google Now Launcher had a "No Internet Connection" box even when connected to home Wi-Fi.
I re-enabled background data and pulled down to refresh.
I now have no cards at all, when there were previously some old ones.
I have cleared data and cache of both Google Now Launcher and Google Search.
I have rebooted multiple times.
I have uninstalled updates and reinstalled updates for both Google Now Launcher and Google Search.
I don't know what to do at this point, other than a full device reset.
I am facing the same issue since morning
You can try deleting the home network and then reconnecting to it.
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I'm having the same issues.. But remember, people were having this issue after last year's Google IO.
It's definitely an issue on Google's end. I'm having problems on both my Nexus 5 and iPad Mini...
Yeah, tried everything but still no luck. I wish google sends an update
I have the same problem on Nexus 4, (4.4.4). I hope Google will fix this issue soon.
I know its not a wrong thread to ask but I am facing this issue whenever I recieve call and using the phone, no option comes up to accept or reject plus navigation bar also hides. Can anyone please suggest me whats the issue. Have searched other threads but no luck.
Hi guy i can help you
Try to change/modify the Kernel ROM, or even change your Smartphone if you are under warranty
I have tried stock, franco nd elementalx.. In all three issue persists.
Has anyone tried a full device reset?
I got some cards. When I pull to reset, I get "no internet connection again."
Forgetting and reconnecting to the Wi-fi had no effect.
I'm having the same problem with my N5. Some searching seems to indicate that it may be due to Google Now's new "Google Now Everywhere" option, only officially available on the L preview, but unofficially by a hack here:https://plus.google.com/+AdamLawrence/posts/46A68S7Dytb
I installed the L preview and played with it for a few hours and enabled the "Google Now Everywhere" option, which I assume toggles some setting at Google, so that's probably how it happened for me.
Did anyone else try the L preview or use the hack above?
Gene Poole said:
I'm having the same problem with my N5. Some searching seems to indicate that it may be due to Google Now's new "Google Now Everywhere" option, only officially available on the L preview, but unofficially by a hack here:https://plus.google.com/+AdamLawrence/posts/46A68S7Dytb
I installed the L preview and played with it for a few hours and enabled the "Google Now Everywhere" option, which I assume toggles some setting at Google, so that's probably how it happened for me.
Did anyone else try the L preview or use the hack above?
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I used the hack, but Google Now Everywhere is supposedly rolling out to KitKat devices too with the latest update. But with the above person seeing an issue on an iPad tells me it's on Google's end.
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I used the hack, but Google Now Everywhere is supposedly rolling out to KitKat devices too with the latest update. But with the above person seeing an issue on an iPad tells me it's on Google's end.
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I haven't used any hacks at all. I think the Google Now Everywhere thing might be it. Can someone link to what it's about? I haven't found anything specific by googling.
Particicutor said:
I haven't used any hacks at all. I think the Google Now Everywhere thing might be it. Can someone link to what it's about? I haven't found anything specific by googling.
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The latest version of Google Search, 3.5.14, has the OK Google Everywhere thing. If you're not on that version, I don't think it'd be what's causing the connection issue.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...gs-ok-google-hotword-detection-to-any-screen/
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The latest version of Google Search, 3.5.14, has the OK Google Everywhere thing. If you're not on that version, I don't think it'd be what's causing the connection issue.
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I was on that version. Downgrading Google Search has fixed my issue. Thanks for the workaround! Also, I was not able to get OK Google hotword detection to on the lock screen, despite being on 3.5.14...
Particicutor said:
I was on that version. Downgrading Google Search has fixed my issue. Thanks for the workaround! Also, I was not able to get OK Google hotword detection to on the lock screen, despite being on 3.5.14...
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Cool, well mine came back too without me doing anything.. so yay?
Hello.
Any updates or ideas about this error?
I have a device suffering this same. But by having installed CM11/12 all the time never experienced until go back to stock Motorola. Just to sold it and see the new owner told me about the problem, wanting to have his money back.
Version 4.2.x and lowers are working. Once the phone installs last 4.3.x or 4.4.x the problem starts.
Yes......This seems to be a bug.
I'm using Google Now with android 4.4.4, same issue.
I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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I have the same problem as you. A lot of my news apps sometimes work, and sometimes won't open any articles. I can't find any rhyme or reason for it. My Yahoo Mail app has the same problem as well. Sometimes it works fine, and other times it won't display the body of the email.
Found a potential solution in another thread, but I haven't tried it yet. Here is his post.
DNFDD said:
I think I might have solved this issue myself and it might be useful information for others:
In the battery-section of the settings, there is an option to control if an app can auto-start, be started from a different app and is allowed to keep running in the background. Either you allow the phone to control this automatically, or you can do it manually: the latter possibility is the one I turned on as I wanted to have the control over the apps. Apparently, this was a bad choice as it stopped the apps from getting the information from the internet?
After I switched it back to completely automatic, all apps were working normally again. This is something that Huawei should address as I don't believe this should happen .
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Thanks for the update
I had it as well manual and everything was off and this was the reason for the problem!
I just set it to automatic and seems that the problem is fixed!
I will keep you updated the following days!
Thnx ppl
Problem solved
Everything is working fine!
I don't think you need to turn everything to automatic, "Chrome" should be enough as I think those apps use some built-in Browser features from "Chrome". So leaving everything as is (no matter if automatic, manual on or manual off) worked for me as long as "Chrome" was set to automatic or manual on.
Problem solved
You are absolutely right! Only chrome has to be automatic!
Yes Chrome is used instead android web wiew on oreo
I have exactly the same Problem with Amazon App! Any solution?.
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Same here! Chrome on automatic and amazn app works fine!!
GetAlife13 said:
I have many app issues with the current phone!
I have received a major update and I currently run BLA-L29 8.0.0. 127 (C432)
I have app issues especially with apps that are news related!
I tried installing them again, I made factory reset and all possible solutions but the problem is still there!
For example (IMDb, Gazzetta, Sdna, sport24, 90 minutes) apps are launching but when I press to a specific article won't open!
When I force stop them and clear cache sometimes works but it's like 1 out of 20-30 attempts.
I contacted Huawei and they said that the apps don't work because they are not optimised to oreo 8.0 and it's totally an app problem, but I think is more than that!
Keep up the good work guys!
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i'm facing similar problems and many app developers said "Huawei developers have set restriction for the device system"
As we mentioned before you should change the battery settings...
Settings
Battery
Launch
Manage All Automatically {on}
...... Or you just turn Chrome to automatically and see if it works....
So, I updated my Moto to Oreo yesterday using fastboot method. Quick and painless process.
But after initial setup and check "what's new" I've noticed first bug. Then I thought : maybe we could make a list with all the bugs we spotted ?
Just in case, so maybe we could also keep track when (or if) they will be eliminated ?
So, put your findings there - but I propose that it should be done only by those who already tried factory reset on their phones or complete wipe during flashing. Just to avoid the bugs which come from previous setup leftovers on the phone.
So, my entry to the list is :
- when setting up ringtones - notifications, when I play the selected sound it's most often played back very quietly for the first time, the second time I click the same sound it's played back with normal volume.
By the way, the audio equalizer is working properly now - for me this was the most important change
Found a few.
- Sound glitch is still here, can be unnoticed, but I found a funny thing now. When playing music, with Spotify, YT or similar; you can get a weird glitch in where the sounds goes up and down fast. You need to stop the audio source, and wait few seconds to keep playing.
- Nav Bar, moves a lot so you can really notice when the icons are slightly up or down. I understand why; to avoid damaged pixels, but is funny.
- Nav Bar again. It can be unresponsive, needing to press it twice to allow usage. Solve for this was to start the Moto App, enable the fingeprint sensor and just disable again. It makes the nav bar Works normally then.
- EQ finally Works. But you need to get into a move few options unless is gonna be bass oriented even after you open the EQ settings, you would see a flat config, but the sound match a bass oriented way. Solve is just to mess aroung a Little until is working correctly.
- Moto App Launcher still stops working along with Google. Easy workaround is just Forcing Quit, and go back home. Other workaround for me was being in the Beta testing for the Google. alongside better performance and less problems with Moto App Launcher you can use the Pixel at Glance widget.
So far what I got
Hey there, I've got a few bugs to report to the INDIAN unit of MOTO Z2 PLAY 64GB 4G
1. I've MOTO Z PLAY too and i compared both the devices after the oreo update, in Z i can change the icon shape to round, circle square etc. But it's missing in the MOTO Z2 PLAY
2. I cannot make or receive calls using JIO 4G sim even though i can use this sim on another android mobile MOTO Z and can easily make and recieve calls from there, although the internet is working fine with. MOTO Z2 PLAY
Theae are the major 2 bugs I've found till now..
My Battery life is lower.
ive never seen Batterysaver orange until I updated. Now I have to dust off my TP mod.
Hey guys i need help, i have stock oreo on my Z2. After upgrading it was giving up some issue while on lockscreen and even delay in showing up moto display. then i format my phone and it all well, then i installed greenify and gave it access via adb commands, and the passing of lockscreen again start giving issues, i revoked the greenify commands and still it is giving the same lag on passing lockscreen and drlay in moto display to appear. Can i do something other than full format and without loosing my data.
Mine's performance and battery life have actually improved. I get 6+ hours battery life throughout the day, something I never got in nougat.
The only thing I've noticed is that the screen sometimes doesn't wake up when I pick up the phone, but it's very rare and it also happened to me in Nougat.
So far so good.
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Mine's performance and battery life have actually improved. I get 6+ hours battery life throughout the day, something I never got in nougat.
The only thing I've noticed is that the screen sometimes doesn't wake up when I pick up the phone, but it's very rare and it also happened to me in Nougat.
So far so good.
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Yeah, the battery is now amazing. First day i got 9h SOT and 20h total. With less usage I get 40 hours with 5,5h SOT! On Nougat it was like 24 hours and 6h SOT.
The only issue I have is that Moto Key force closes sometimes.
Is it normal, that gmail syncs like every 10 min. and that on Oreo this is shown in the Statusbar?
I've found the Nav Bar unresponsive, too.
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I've found the Nav Bar unresponsive, too.
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Same here, went back to FP navigation, and that's a pain with Screen protector installed....
P2P feature
P2P feature not working for YouTube or Google map or any app
I also have this issue, PiP is not working for me, there is no option in settings for this but the specific for every app, and for all of them it is active. What I have noticed is that the camera image seems to be more "dusty" like with a higher ISO this did not happened with Nougat, I have not verified image results after photographs. I also have a very impressive battery life.
I don't think this counts as a bug, but it is something that is making me crazy since I upgraded to Oreo:
-"Ok Google" detection now only works when the screen is on (if "trusted voice" is on, it will work in the lockscreen, but never when the screen is off).
The option related to "Ok Google" detection changed from "anytime" to something that indicates that the screen has to be on. I had a Moto X (2013) some time ago, and something that I loved about that device was how I could ask google to do some things even if the screen was off. I loved that about my Moto Z2 Play running Nougat, and I didn't expect it to stop working like that with the upgrade.
Does anyone know if it is possible to make it work with the screen off like before? Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much for posting this, you saved me man! I was just about to tap update before i saw this post. The only reason i bought a Moto Z2 Play in the first place is because it was one of the few phones that allowed OK Google detection while the screen is OFF. Very sad to learn they removed this feature in Oreo, though now i think i understand why everyone is reporting better battery life. In Nougat a microphone was always listening for "OK Google" and thus constantly consuming a certain amount of power. According to your post this is seems to no longer be the case.
I doubt that this will ever be addressed so i won't be upgrading to Oreo, having to approach your phone for Google Assistant to acknowledge voice commands is unacceptable, and the fact that only some flagship phones allow it is an embarrassment.
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I don't think this counts as a bug, but it is something that is making me crazy since I upgraded to Oreo:
-"Ok Google" detection now only works when the screen is on (if "trusted voice" is on, it will work in the lockscreen, but never when the screen is off).
The option related to "Ok Google" detection changed from "anytime" to something that indicates that the screen has to be on. I had a Moto X (2013) some time ago, and something that I loved about that device was how I could ask google to do some things even if the screen was off. I loved that about my Moto Z2 Play running Nougat, and I didn't expect it to stop working like that with the upgrade.
Does anyone know if it is possible to make it work with the screen off like before? Thanks in advance!
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Clear data of the Google App.
I'm on Oreo on the Z² Play and Ok Google works just fine with the screen off.
ClowReedd said:
I don't think this counts as a bug, but it is something that is making me crazy since I upgraded to Oreo:
-"Ok Google" detection now only works when the screen is on (if "trusted voice" is on, it will work in the lockscreen, but never when the screen is off).
The option related to "Ok Google" detection changed from "anytime" to something that indicates that the screen has to be on. I had a Moto X (2013) some time ago, and something that I loved about that device was how I could ask google to do some things even if the screen was off. I loved that about my Moto Z2 Play running Nougat, and I didn't expect it to stop working like that with the upgrade.
Does anyone know if it is possible to make it work with the screen off like before? Thanks in advance!
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Also turn it on as a "Trust Agent" in settings-->security, if you have a screenlock.
You'll also find Moto Voice's Screen unLock activation there. if you use it.
I am scared of upgrading to Oreo since i have no sure way of knowing if i my phone will lose the ability to recognize "OK Google" when the screen is off. If i suffer the same fate as ClowReedd there would be no way for me to roll back and i would lose the functionality i bought this phone for in the first place. Motorola support is incapable of understanding the difference between a phone that can be unlocked with "OK Google" when the screen is completely off and a phone that can achieve the same only when you manually push the power button so you can see the lock screen. But to be fair there is no company in the world whose support is capable of understanding this, i had an extremely difficult time selecting a phone to purchase because of this. Multiple Samsung employees for example would either claim a certain Samsung model that i know has this capability doesn't have it, or claim that a phone that i know doesn't does. Google is also of no help, i have tried to find a list of phones with this capability and got nowhere. Most flagships have it( though some do not), but most midrange phones do not. Which is the only reason i bought a Moto Z2 Play.
Hopefully ClowReedd will respond whether or not clearing the Google app data fixes the issue, since if it doesn't nothing can be done. Google provides absolutely no support for it's assistant other than copy pasted responses online from what i have to assume are bots.
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I am scared of upgrading to Oreo since i have no sure way of knowing if i my phone will lose the ability to recognize "OK Google" when the screen is off. If i suffer the same fate as ClowReedd there would be no way for me to roll back and i would lose the functionality i bought this phone for in the first place. Motorola support is incapable of understanding the difference between a phone that can be unlocked with "OK Google" when the screen is completely off and a phone that can achieve the same only when you manually push the power button so you can see the lock screen. But to be fair there is no company in the world whose support is capable of understanding this, i had an extremely difficult time selecting a phone to purchase because of this. Multiple Samsung employees for example would either claim a certain Samsung model that i know has this capability doesn't have it, or claim that a phone that i know doesn't does. Google is also of no help, i have tried to find a list of phones with this capability and got nowhere. Most flagships have it( though some do not), but most midrange phones do not. Which is the only reason i bought a Moto Z2 Play.
Hopefully ClowReedd will respond whether or not clearing the Google app data fixes the issue, since if it doesn't nothing can be done. Google provides absolutely no support for it's assistant other than copy pasted responses online from what i have to assume are bots.
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Exactly how many people have reported such an issue? If it was common, Motorola would probably know exactly what you are talking about. Have you searched the MZ²P forums? how many posts have you found?
'Special'...
The ability for Google Now, to unlock phone and carry out tasks/commands. Is the User Agent, as I posted above.
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Exactly how many people have reported such an issue? If it was common, Motorola would probably know exactly what you are talking about. Have you searched the MZ²P forums? how many posts have you found?
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The ability for Google Now, to unlock phone and carry out tasks/commands. Is the User Agent, as I posted above.
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Well we already have 1 report in this thread, and it is not hard to imagine that a detail like this would go unreported since i am not even sure if it is a bug. Also a lot of people including yourself don't even know the difference between Google Assistant(i am guessing that is what you mean by Google Now) being able to unlock the phone and being able to wake and then unlock the phone when the screen is completely off.
Most people do not care one way or the other which is why this change could easily go unreported, assuming it is indeed a bug and not just an intentional change to conserve battery life.
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Well we already have 1 report in this thread, and it is not hard to imagine that a detail like this would go unreported since i am not even sure if it is a bug. Also a lot of people including yourself don't even know the difference between Google Assistant(i am guessing that is what you mean by Google Now) being able to unlock the phone and being able to wake and then unlock the phone when the screen is completely off.
Most people do not care one way or the other which is why this change could easily go unreported, assuming it is indeed a bug and not just an intentional change to conserve battery life.
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if you look hard enough, you'll find ONE person who's phone exploded.
These forums are for solving problems, not to alleviate your FEARS.
Many things MIGHT happen, there is no point clogging up the threads listing all of them.
If you have a problem, let's solve it,. If you are worried your phone will attract lightning ?, there's no helping you.
Handsfree is important to me, since the 2013 Moto X, (I've had many Moto phones since), It's an invaluable function when phone is lost in the couch cushions.
You are thinking too hard, and making assumptions, I know exactly what you are talking about. Waking the phone and unlocking it are lumped together, what good is a feature that wakes the phone but doesn't unlock it (it can be optionally restricted), likewise what good is handsfree activation, if it can't wake the phone? it seems redundant to spell that out!
Google Now, was the original name for the Google Assistant, phased out last year, let's not nitpick.
BTW: it's fairly easy to go back to Nougat, should you desire it.
Regarding Picture in Picture mode, particularly for Youtube - this is a limitation that Google has put in place that only USA users can access, unless you purchase Youtube Premium. Can confirm PIP works with VLC media player. Netflix only has PIP with 8.1
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
Monty Burns said:
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
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Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
prophet558 said:
Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
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Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
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Monty Burns said:
Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
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That's very reassuring for me. Are you able to view the screen on time in this device? (Dunno why colorOS hides that).
radioraheem2 said:
1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
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Thanks for the response. Hope backgeound app management better with the Global ROM.
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
KOLIOSIS said:
1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
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Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
prophet558 said:
Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
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If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
krabman said:
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
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They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
Screw it I just pre-ordered it (Bordeaux Red). Shipping starts from 4th of August. Hope the phone gets relatively better with the Global Indian ROM. Thank you all for your inputs.
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
rowihel2012 said:
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
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No it doesn't.
KOLIOSIS said:
If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
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As a Wear OS user (Polar M600) i can absolutely CONFIRM what Koliosis is saying and this is not just limited to Samsung Watches.
That said, my watch has been fine now for 2 days and, even after a reboot, the same apps are still auto-run and remain locked. I actually like this solution now BUT, why the FRACK have they restricted it to only 5 apps!?
Anyway, as an example, my locked and running fine apps are:
Wear OS
The Crypto App (so it's widget runs OK - take note, to run a widget, the PARENT app needs to be locked sometimes)
WhatsApp
Gmail
Google Calendar (again, for it's widget)
Now, for me, this is perfectly OK and I have no need to even want to lock other apps (like Facebook) as i'm not interested however, you need to assess YOUR needs which may be more apps.
edit: Oh, oddly, i've got the Sony Experia clock widget installed and that runs perfectly even without being locked and I've no idea why!
Also, I've got the red and it looks stunning. Easily the best looking phone i've ever owned. You'll be happy with the physical design.
prophet558 said:
They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
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Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
Funk Wizard said:
Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
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Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
KOLIOSIS said:
Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users here have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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If these restrictions do not exist on a non-Chinese version, I'll be flashing as soon as it is possible and a method is detailed!
KOLIOSIS said:
Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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I am positive for a better experience on the Indian version which is already better in terms of bloat and hopefully we can do a workaround for the other issues. I will keep you posted. Currently it's a long wait as the tentative delivery is 5th August so I'll share my inputs after playing with the machine for a couple of days
Many thanks for your inputs so far and the adb workaround for bloat.
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