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I don't know how many chefs read this side of the forum, but I know I'll get my hand slapped for posting this in the development side.
But now that Swype beta is available to pretty much everyone, why are we including the stock version anymore? Everyone seems to do it, and it's difficult to remove to install the beta.
It's obvious that the old version doesn't play nice with Gingerbread's text selection process, and the new version has solved that issue.
Can anyone explain why we're still including an almost useless version?
gspitman said:
I don't know how many chefs read this side of the forum, but I know I'll get my hand slapped for posting this in the development side.
But now that Swype beta is available to pretty much everyone, why are we including the stock version anymore? Everyone seems to do it, and it's difficult to remove to install the beta.
It's obvious that the old version doesn't play nice with Gingerbread's text selection process, and the new version has solved that issue.
Can anyone explain why we're still including an almost useless version?
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I can cook you up a straight stock rom without it. It's only an apk you can uninstall with tb
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aray92 said:
I can cook you up a straight stock rom without it. It's only an apk you can uninstall with tb
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Thank you, but that's not really the point. I can remove it from any ROM, just asking why we're bothering to include something that generally doesn't work with our version of the OS.
gspitman said:
I don't know how many chefs read this side of the forum, but I know I'll get my hand slapped for posting this in the development side.
But now that Swype beta is available to pretty much everyone, why are we including the stock version anymore? Everyone seems to do it, and it's difficult to remove to install the beta.
It's obvious that the old version doesn't play nice with Gingerbread's text selection process, and the new version has solved that issue.
Can anyone explain why we're still including an almost useless version?
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gspitman said:
Thank you, but that's not really the point. I can remove it from any ROM, just asking why we're bothering to include something that generally doesn't work with our version of the OS.
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its included because its the only authorized version allowed to be distributed by the manufacturer, if the developer ( the Rom maker ) included it, swype could get pissed and ask for a take down. you need to sign up for an account and be part of the beta to get it.
so in short.. its against Swype's ToS and EULA. in order to avoid complications, rom makers dont include it
Spyderekz said:
its included because its the only authorized version allowed to be distributed by the manufacturer, if the developer ( the Rom maker ) included it, swype could get pissed and ask for a take down. you need to sign up for an account and be part of the beta to get it.
so in short.. its against Swype's ToS and EULA. in order to avoid complications, rom makers dont include it
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That's just it, I'm not asking to include the new version... just to NOT include the old one.
The old one doesn't really work, and prevents the easy installation of the new one.
So why include broken software?
gspitman said:
Thank you, but that's not really the point. I can remove it from any ROM, just asking why we're bothering to include something that generally doesn't work with our version of the OS.
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It's not just the APK, there's a file in system/lib that needs to go too. Last paragraph:
http://forum.swype.com/showthread.p...install-Swype-Swype-PreLoad-Production-Device
Edit: Instead of requesting the devs remove, write a quick script that will remove the old. Then you just need run it once whenever you install a new rom.
lyric911 said:
It's not just the APK, there's a file in system/lib that needs to go too. Last paragraph:
http://forum.swype.com/showthread.p...install-Swype-Swype-PreLoad-Production-Device
Edit: Instead of requesting the devs remove, write a quick script that will remove the old. Then you just need run it once whenever you install a new rom.
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Again, I know how to remove it, I know that it's possible to remove.
The question that no one is answering is WHY INCLUDE SOFTWARE THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH GINGERBREAD?
Sorry for yelling, but I'm trying to grasp the value of having the original package.
gspitman said:
Again, I know how to remove it, I know that it's possible to remove.
The question that no one is answering is WHY INCLUDE SOFTWARE THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH GINGERBREAD?
Sorry for yelling, but I'm trying to grasp the value of having the original package.
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Am I the only one who's seeing the same trend here that happened in the movie "Anger Management"?
He's only asking "Who you are." LOL
gspitman said:
Again, I know how to remove it, I know that it's possible to remove.
The question that no one is answering is WHY INCLUDE SOFTWARE THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH GINGERBREAD?
Sorry for yelling, but I'm trying to grasp the value of having the original package.
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Woops. Meant to quote aray92, not you since he/she said only the apk must be removed.
lyric911 said:
It's not just the APK, there's a file in system/lib that needs to go too. Last paragraph:
ht tp://forum.swype.com/showthread.php?2287-Unable-to-uncheck-uninstall-Swype-Swype-PreLoad-Production-Device
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Thank you for the link. The Swype beta always crashed for me and now I know why. I removed the files and now Swype works. Thanks!
I agree, I want to be able to install the latest swype. If I recall correctly, couldn't they make it so we could uninstall? I think that's how it was with OG Evo custom roms.
It's been removed from mine from day one.
I thoroughly inspect my ROM for every instance of software that I don't want.
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That's just it, I'm not asking to include the new version... just to NOT include the old one.
The old one doesn't really work, and prevents the easy installation of the new one.
So why include broken software?
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1) It works just fine.
2) It takes 10 seconds to uninstall with TB.
3) Did you ever consider the possibility that some people may not have another version of swype?
nabbed said:
1) It works just fine.
2) It takes 10 seconds to uninstall with TB.
3) Did you ever consider the possibility that some people may not have another version of swype?
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1. It doesn't work right.
2. Takes longer than that including removal of the lib files and a half dozen reboots to get the beta installed
3. F%#@ them. Majority wins and its a fantastic idea to remove it, let's get rid of car panel, Twitter, footprints, friendstream, stocks, htcfacebook, fm radio too
its not in my rom either
NewZJ said:
1. It doesn't work right.
2. Takes longer than that including removal of the lib files and a half dozen reboots to get the beta installed
3. F%#@ them. Majority wins and its a fantastic idea to remove it, let's get rid of car panel, Twitter, footprints, friendstream, stocks, htcfacebook, fm radio too
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Done, agreed, done, may not play right, and maybe!
anyone got the new Swype beta? Haven't tried it out yet
Hi everyone
A lot of Chinese (non licensed) phones won't allow paid apps to be downloaded from the android market. On the other hand, I DO have a Chinese "no name" phone that downloads everything, including paid apps.
I'm trying to find out where all the information is located how the android market identifies the android device and either allows to download paid apps or denies it
My first guess of course was the build.prob, my friend copied the build.prob from my (paid apps download working) phone to his paid apps non working phone, NO SUCCESS, he still can't download any paid apps with my build.prob.
So, I'm guess there have to be other files(?) that also play a role on how a phone is recognized by the market?
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I don't think you are using official market...
And cheating is not recommended here
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melvinchng said:
I don't think you are using official market...
And cheating is not recommended here
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Excuse me?
Of course I am trying to download paid apps from the official market, where else would I download paid apps?
And what you do mean by cheating? I don't want to cheat anyone, all I want is to fix a phone so I can buy apps from the OFFICIAL android market with that phone as well
Edit: Maybe I should keep it simpler? Here's the situation:
The official android market lets me buy apps when I am using my Chinese Phone A
When I try to buy apps with my Chinese Phone B, the download won't work, I can only download free apps.
What I want is to be able to buy apps with phone B as well. Nothing illegal, I just want to give Google some of my money
ColonelZap said:
Excuse me?
Of course I am trying to download paid apps from the official market, where else would I download paid apps?
And what you do mean by cheating? I don't want to cheat anyone, all I want is to fix a phone so I can buy apps from the OFFICIAL android market with that phone as well
Edit: Maybe I should keep it simpler? Here's the situation:
The official android market lets me buy apps when I am using my Chinese Phone A
When I try to buy apps with my Chinese Phone B, the download won't work, I can only download free apps.
What I want is to be able to buy apps with phone B as well. Nothing illegal, I just want to give Google some of my money
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The main problem is that google doesnt allow China based phones to do this. There are reasons for this. It could also be that the phone tells the market where you are based on location.
zelendel said:
The main problem is that google doesnt allow China based phones to do this. There are reasons for this. It could also be that the phone tells the market where you are based on location.
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That's what I'm trying to bring out. Because it is non licences phone, it won't allow you to do so. Even it is open source, phone maker still need to buy the license (Android 2.3 and above, the higher the os is, The more expensive it is. 2.2 and below is free ) from Google.
You can try using amazon if you want to burn some cash.
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melvinchng said:
Because it is non licences phone, it won't allow you to do so.
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Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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What is your arc s clone 7th and 8th imei numbr and you current phone 7th and 8th imei number?
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ColonelZap said:
Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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Hi, I have same problem....I've buyed Star A3 from china, and the paid apps I've buied I can't download it from the market it say to me impossible download "app name" error , I've make some try....modding myself rom mixed with other phone rom I've made a success ,but the mixed rom give me a lot of problem, I've changed to default rom adn still have same problem, I've also try to change some references at build.prop and now my phone is recognized from the android market like a samsung galaxy s gt-i9000 but still no work.....
excuse for my poor english
Have you tried Market Enabler?
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pirolisi80 said:
yes I've tried
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Me, too, that doesn't do the job.
Question remains if all the impotant info in stored in the build.prob or what other file(s) might also be important in order how a device is recognized by the android market.
ColonelZap said:
Me, too, that doesn't do the job.
Question remains if all the impotant info in stored in the build.prob or what other file(s) might also be important in order how a device is recognized by the android market.
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can you pubblish here your build.prop?
edit: please
This is the build.prob from my x18i phone that lets me download paid apps:
As you seen I've tried to change build.prop with yours until the build proprites I've also delete data and cache from market apk service framework and partner setup...for a clean try...but nothing I can't download my paid app from my market....thanks whathever...excuse me ror my poor english I hope you understand my words
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No problem understandig you I'm not surprised it didn't work, I still think the information must be stored elsewhere beside the build.prob, if only I knew were, hence this thread
if it's possible can you upload system /app folder from your phone....I think is in this folder the solution...bye
pirolisi80 said:
if it's possible can you upload system /app folder from your phone....I think is in this folder the solution...bye
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You really think so? That's the last place I would have guessed.
Here you go:
http://chinamobiles.org/downloads/zap/appx18i.zip
Let us know if you find anything
You could try this solution:
http://www.slatedroid.com/wiki/index.php/Fix_Market_For_Slates#Get_AndroidID_From_A_Phone
Essentially it involves finding the androidID on your phone (or emulator) where the market works using
Code:
adb shell sqlite3 /data/data/com.google.android.googleapps/databases/gls.db "select * from meta";
and then copying that to the phone where the market doesn't work using
Code:
adb shell sqlite3 /data/data/com.google.android.googleapps/databases/gls.db "update meta set intvalue='idnumber_from_above' where name='androidId'";
It's not a ROM fix but at least it might help some people.
can anyone modify the last working google music apk to not look for updates and or clone it and make it standalone. I know i for one am looking for something that allows me to have the nexus q enabled music apk and the new one both on my phone at the same time.
or is someone can inform me what to do I will work to try and do it.
I am willing to donate for the guy who can.
ianandamy said:
can anyone modify the last working google music apk to not look for updates and or clone it and make it standalone. I know i for one am looking for something that allows me to have the nexus q enabled music apk and the new one both on my phone at the same time.
or is someone can inform me what to do I will work to try and do it.
I am willing to donate for the guy who can.
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If you don't care about using Google Play Music 5.0:
Find old apk (4.5.9 I think)
Uninstall 5.0
Turn off automatic updating in market
Install old apk
???
Profit
This is the only thing I did, wasn't too wowed with the new features of 5.0.
I also don't know what it would take to add the functionality to 5.0 :/
Hope this helps.
Sora3087 said:
If you don't care about using Google Play Music 5.0:
Find old apk (4.5.9 I think)
Uninstall 5.0
Turn off automatic updating in market
Install old apk
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Profit
This is the only thing I did, wasn't too wowed with the new features of 5.0.
I also don't know what it would take to add the functionality to 5.0 :/
Hope this helps.
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I know you can do that I'm hoping for a modded apk
ianandamy said:
I know you can do that I'm hoping for a modded apk
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Ok well the no updating might not be possible from editing the 4.5.9 app.
I looked around the 5.0 app and it definitely doesn't have the Tungsten support files so it isn't just missing visually
I'm wonder what is involved with porting the Tungsten code to the 5.0 app...
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Ok well the no updating might not be possible from editing the 4.5.9 app.
I looked around the 5.0 app and it definitely doesn't have the Tungsten support files so it isn't just missing visually
I'm wonder what is involved with porting the Tungsten code to the 5.0 app...
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Have a look at drawable-hdpi/ic_media_route_on_holo_light.png or ic_q_solo.png or ic_q_multi.png and tell me that again
It really looks like its partially there, just not up front. Wonder why....
animal24 said:
have a look at drawable-hdpi/ic_media_route_on_holo_light.png or ic_q_solo.png or ic_q_multi.png and tell me that again
it really looks like its partially there, just not up front. Wonder why....
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wonder if we can add it to the code in 5.0 and make it work rebuilding the apk
ianandamy said:
wonder if we can add it to the code in 5.0 and make it work rebuilding the apk
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It may be built out but disabled, maybe because they had to disable it to get the contracts for Google music unlimited access.. Wonder if there is a labs type thing in Google music...
animal24 said:
it may be built out but disabled, maybe because they had to disable it to get the contracts for google music unlimited access.. Wonder if there is a labs type thing in google music...
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i am not up on how to program i know some mild code but im sure this can be done if a dev would have a few hours to figure it out for the community i for one would happily donate to whoever gets it figured out
Can anyone with a Verizon Wireless LG G6 please provide me with the Verizon Visual Voicemail APK. I just received my unlocked LG G6 and cannot seem to find the visual voicemail app for it. So I figured someone here can probably extract their phone and share it here with me and anyone else that may have an unlocked device. Thx :good:
Anyone? ...
synplex said:
Anyone? ...
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Here you go: http://downloads.codefi.re/networkingpro/Voicemail_com.lge.vvm.apk
Sorry for the delay - I just now saw this.
TCPDump said:
Here you go: http://downloads.codefi.re/networkingpro/Voicemail_com.lge.vvm.apk
Sorry for the delay - I just now saw this.
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Thanks for this, but won't install. I got a "package appears to be corrupt" error . Can u repackage the apk? Thanks
synplex said:
Thanks for this, but won't install. I got a "package appears to be corrupt" error . Can u repackage the apk? Thanks
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It may have some dependencies or framework requirements that aren't padded into the non-VZW images. Sorry for the luck, man!
synplex said:
Thanks for this, but won't install. I got a "package appears to be corrupt" error . Can u repackage the apk? Thanks
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I am in the same boat and got the same error.
Setup Google Voice. Works great and isn't carrier dependent. Here's a link:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/voice/2Zgc2AjG9Pw/ZAxj4sRQAE0J
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It may have some dependencies or framework requirements that aren't padded into the non-VZW images. Sorry for the luck, man!
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Sorry thought it would work as a stand alone but you might be right (Might be missing framework requirements).
steelersnsox said:
Setup Google Voice. Works great and isn't carrier dependent. Here's a link:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/voice/2Zgc2AjG9Pw/ZAxj4sRQAE0J
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Did this on my Nexus 6p last last and remembered having issue. I'll try to set it up again tonight. Thx
steelersnsox said:
Setup Google Voice. Works great and isn't carrier dependent. Here's a link:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/voice/2Zgc2AjG9Pw/ZAxj4sRQAE0J
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Working perfectly for me using the (*71 [Your Google Voice number] ) option. Thanks
It gave me the same error and I had vvm working during the promo period so all the framework should still be in place.
I just got a LG G6 model US997 and would also be interested in getting Verizon Visual Voicemail working. If anyone has a solution, please share. Thanks.
Verizon VVM for Unlocked Phones
Having the same issue after just buying an LG V20 unlocked CDMA. Funny thing is i cannot understand why i did not have this problem when i bought my MOTO X pure edition CDMA unlocked phone in 2016. I think it is because the app was still available on Google Play then. I also get the APK corrupt message when i try to install the downloaded APK. First of all, when i did a transfer of all my apps to a new phone, i noticed that the Verizon Voicemail wasn't copied. I later saw in the Google Play app under library that it is not compatible with my phone, which is bull hokey because i just got an additional Verizon version of that same phone and it is preinstalled on that phone. I even used an APK extractor on that phone to copy out the VVM APK but got the same corrupt message when i tried to install it on my unlocked version. I believe it is due to a couple of things. I noticed that Verizon made a considerable amount of changes to the OS because the same phones with Android 7 have different settings screens. the language in the menu screens is even different. SO i think they embedded system or other files for this APK into the framework or OS of Verizon version phones and that is why the APK will not install.
So I used a program from the play store called Resource Extractor and extracted the Voicemail app from the Verizon LG V20 and copied the contents of the extracted files to the SD card. Interestingly enough, all of the file folders indicate 0 files until you copy to another folder on your SD card. There are now 662 files and folders in that folder. My problem is that i know nothing about APK development or coding on Android so i do not know how to take the extracted folders and files and create an APK from them. Has anyone had any success with this since the first posting here??? I like Verizon's visual voice mail application because it works much better than all the rest, but i refuse to pay Verizon 800 bucks for a new one. The one i recently purchased on the net is going back because the screen doesn't look right and the fingerprint reader is either not functional or disabled. It was claimed to be "New" but i have doubts because the screen colors do not look right. Here is the really funny thing. There is no reference in any of the setup process or in settings later for the fingerprint reader at all. So either this model did not have one or Verizon disabled it when they over wrote the OS. I don't really know.
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hello,
am on miui 11.0.5.0 global and was able to remove the stock mi browser(v10.....etc).
am trying to install an older version of mi browser that had better features than newer versions , it installs but keeps closing everytime i open it!
is there any workaround to make it work?
I know I'm not answering your question.
But why exactly do you prefer to use a browser filled with ads and junk?
Alrich said:
I know I'm not answering your question.
But why exactly do you prefer to use a browser filled with ads and junk?
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I was wondering that too
Poco launcher gives you a neat way of hiding those bits of xiaomi scurf that you can't uninstall - why not just do that and browse with Iron or something better?
Alrich said:
I know I'm not answering your question.
But why exactly do you prefer to use a browser filled with ads and junk?
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the older version am talking about has no ads and its the only version that has the feature am lookin for!
thesoupthief said:
I was wondering that too
Poco launcher gives you a neat way of hiding those bits of xiaomi scurf that you can't uninstall - why not just do that and browse with Iron or something better?
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I never said i cant uninstall it.....read reply #4
Regardless of ads or not, why do you still insist on using a inferior browser when there are so many others out there that do a better job.
Alrich said:
Regardless of ads or not, why do you still insist on using a inferior browser when there are so many others out there that do a better job.
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i already mentioned the cause above!......the old version am talking about has a certain feature that isnt working anymore in new versions!.
All you mention is "the feature I'm looking for" or the "cause I'm looking for"
There's no direct mention or explanation of what you're looking for. Maybe more people will help you if you choose to explain a bit more rather than shut down every comment that's trying to help you.
Alrich said:
All you mention is "the feature I'm looking for" or the "cause I'm looking for"
There's no direct mention or explanation of what you're looking for. Maybe more people will help you if you choose to explain a bit more rather than shut down every comment that's trying to help you.
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the reason for posting this topic is to get help regarding running an older version of miui browser that installs but closes everytime i open in oreo/pie/q ......it runs fine on other android phones on nougat!!.
specifying the feature thats working on this old browser and not working on recent versions wont help coz poeple who "try to help" would simply recommend using other newer versions or even different browsers!!
if i wanted to shut comments ....i would have simply ignored any replies without a direct solution!!.
Okay, so you know how it works in the software world. Nobody codes everything from scratch. What we do is build upon the work of others to get what we want. Your previous browser would have been built with various libraries that it hooks into to provide different functionality. Now a new one has come out which was installed on your fone and this is using later versions of the libraries and possibly some APIs may have been dropped. So you're trying to use the old browser with the new libraries and it's entirely possible that the APIs/ABIs it needs are no longer available. So you're SOL. You're going to have to run your browser in debug mode to see what's wrong. I hope it works out for you.
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guhvanoh said:
Okay, so you know how it works in the software world. Nobody codes everything from scratch. What we do is build upon the work of others to get what we want. Your previous browser would have been built with various libraries that it hooks into to provide different functionality. Now a new one has come out which was installed on your fone and this is using later versions of the libraries and possibly some APIs may have been dropped. So you're trying to use the old browser with the new libraries and it's entirely possible that the APIs/ABIs it needs are no longer available. So you're SOL. You're going to have to run your browser in debug mode to see what's wrong. I hope it works out for you.
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ok,this is what i call a helpful reply :good: