Hey everyone. I was just wondering what was everyone's take on the settings for the camera. I'm still undecided on the Anti-Shake usage in camera mode. It seems that it has a tendency to add more grain/noise to the picture (you can even notice it by carefully looking on the screen when you enable and disable it). Does it really help reduce blurry photos (since the phone does have digital image stabilization)? Also, same thing for video mode using video stabilization. Is it really beneficial to have it enabled? Since if you take pictures while recording, I think the resolution of the photo alters. Just wanted to know what would be the best settings in overall day-to-day usage.
I was just coming in here to complain about the camera myself and see what others are saying for best settings. I cannot either seem to get mine to take pictures without being blurry - in any type of light or with the flash.
I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
TheEndHK said:
1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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Thank you!
In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
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langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
HypeZ85 said:
coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.
Ok, I wrote also in other threads but haven't been asnwered at all. I have a Snapdragon 435 device from Xiaomi and a high end sensor of the front camera! An OV5675 Omnivision 5 mpx. My problem is devided into two parts. The main part is that I can take extremely high quality pictures with Google Camera, even if the preview image is a very bad one even with camera2api activated, blury and low on framerate ( abou10-12 if high brighness and smoother if I lower the lights of the sensor when simply opening the camera app and not taking pics ) . When it comes to make a video call, in any app like Duo, Whatsapp etc .... The quality of the preview AND of the call is awful! It is vey blury and low fps, just like in the cheap stock camera viewfinder ( preview mode) . I want to understand, is this limited by the software or it is because the hardware is low end?
I will tell you why I am so concerned of this question - When I open the camera app and switch to the video, I get a very cool FPS on the preview ( not when recording, just the preview viewfinder ) and the image is very clear, not blury. When I switch back to the photo camera, the fps of the preview goes down and the image becomes blury and awful ( even in the Google Camera, even in the stock camera) but when I take a picture in any of these, I get clear images in both.
So! Let's go to the point - The quality of the video call in any of the apps, is the same as in the camera preview mode of the photo mode ( in the viewfinder ). How do I comunicate to these 3rd party apps to use the camera mode/ sensor of the video preview mode? How to make the image durinng a video call be clear and not blury like in the photo preview state? The app code should be edited or the rom?
Has anyone tried recording 4K at 60fps using Open Camera?
I'm thinking of buying this phone but there are others around the same price that support that.
I have an Xperia XA2 Ultra. Open Camera allows the main selfie camera to record video in 4K 30fps when by default
it can only record 1080p
Could anyone try the app and let me know?
I would really appreciate it
"Serious Camera Error" when 4k 60fps is set.
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Has anyone tried recording 4K at 60fps using Open Camera?
I'm thinking of buying this phone but there are others around the same price that support that.
I have an Xperia XA2 Ultra. Open Camera allows the main selfie camera to record video in 4K 30fps when by default
it can only record 1080p
Could anyone try the app and let me know?
I would really appreciate it
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I just installed open camera, though I dont find the HDR option in video settings, but setting to 4k/60 with max buffer of 200 seems to record without a problem. I tried front facing camera, same goes...
I dont see an issue but again, I dont see HDR option in it, also the selfie camera on photo mode, max buffer and max quality seems only as good as normal camera app, the default camera app maybe even a little sharper but barely noticeable but if you really care for 60fps both back and front worked in [email protected] which is weird lol I never expected that, I need to go further testing to see how good the open camera is, compare 60fps in 4k to 60fps 30 and compare quality as well to get the full idea, but I did play around with photos a little bit, and to be honest open camera seemed to have much more artificial sharpness, the photo zoomed out looks sharp even sharper than default camera, but put on a big screen or zoomed in, the default camera has much more respectable sharpness that has way less noise and grain which makes the photo more realistic and more natural overall thats why I feel like the open camera is just a gimmick, all it can provide is 60fps in 4k in both cameras, but again I have to check the quality to see if its even worth it because even with quick tweaking in open camera, I still cant get the best combination of brightness sharpness and color accuracy, yet the default camera app gives a splendid true mix of those, maybe going deeper in manual settings adjusting all these aspects manually could lead to good quality outcomes, but to be honest, no one will ever want to adjust every time they wanna take a pic/video so yah
Thanks a lot Man
I get a lot of noise when recording 4K with the selfie camera, maybe because it wasn't meant to do that or it is just Open Camera.
Thanks again
I would like you to check something that drives me mad with my new Oppo Reno 2. In camera settings, I always set video settings in 1080p and 60 fps. Whenever I change to bokeh effect or wide angle for example, when I untick one of them, values for camera reset to 1080p 30 fps. It´s annoying changing this every time I want to make a video. Even if I do not change anything and shoot a video in 60 fps non ultra stabilization mode, and get out of the camera app, a time later when I enter again, values for camera are changed to 1080 30 fps again. I do not know the reason why or because it is something about performance or battery saving or not.
I just would like you to check if this happens. Change settings to 60 fps and change to wide angle or do not change anything and do whatever you want with your smartphone and after a while, don´t know how much, enter again and see if it changes. Much appeciate it.
EDIT. I must add that it seems that setting main camera to 48 mg also resets to default after a while. What´s this?
Haha. Happens to me either.
I was like "what the hell, didn't I switched to 60fps the other day?"
Let's just hope that Color OS 7 will fix this little issue.
Thanks a lot mate. Thanks a lot for answering. It's a really great great beautiful stylish smartphone and I'm glad I'm not the only one facing that bug. Anyway, I will always stick on 1080p 60 fps through ultra stabilization button every time I use the video because I think it's incredible the result, too much to miss it. That's the trick I use.
I'm new with this Oppo, only two days and I'm getting used to it. And one thing around my mind is the aspect ratio of photos. The gorgeous screen invites me to take photos in full screen mode as the difference in quality seems not to be enormous and this full screen makes people astonish when they see a photo just taken at the moment in all its splendor without any black bars at both sides.
But I know the quality is 4000x1800 in full screen mode and 4000x3000 in 4:3 aspect. Do you prefer taking photos in one or other aspect ratio? The screen is so good that I don't want to miss anything at all. And as we can't yet use our personal preferences in settings such as 48 megapixels mode, which I'll stick if its solved by an update, which are your preferences when taking photos according to these two aspect ratios? And thanks again. Writing from Spain here.
Well, i'm no expert at all, but i'd say that 48mpx mode is the only mod i would not advise, as there's always some loss in terms of color.
Using full-screen mode or default 4:3 is probably based on personal taste. You're losing much information (as the photo is much narrower) and it can be harder to put everything you want in the frame.
Though, it looks very good in the phone's gallery indeed.
I'd probably go for using full screen if you watch your photos only on your phone, but 4:3 for a more versatile use.
Mates, absolutely solved everything with new update to Color 7. Camera settings will remain as our personal preferences. More intuitive camera options. Now it's perfect.
About using one or other aspect ratio in photos, I mean in terms of quiality, I don´t know what to do. I do not want to loose quality using full screenmode if that means that using 4.3 aspect ratio implies a better quality. But what I can tell is that versatility is also present in full screen mode because if we see photos on tv, it aproaches to that aspect ratio and there´s more space taken by the picture on screen. Making a photo report or video report also takes advantage of this ratio because when we use the programs to edit photos and make a photo compilation, it adapts to that kind of format. So the only dude here is quality. Perhaps is the same in both modes.