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Hello, new to XDA and specifically to Android devices. I love the whole experience with my redmi 5 plus. Just wondering why so many people use the lineageOS. I mean is it really worth it? MIUI looks awesome.
1. What's the huge advantage of using a CUSTOM ROM?2. Will I loose the warranty?
3. What's the success rate of flashing a ROM?
Miui is not bad too (better battery life, one hand mode, gestures, etc.) but I'm afraid there will be spy apps preinstalled in there so I have no choice but to flash custom rom. I think you can revert it to MIUI and not lose warranty. If you have past experience 99%. You have to unlock bootloader first then flash twrp and install su after that your choice if you want to flash roms. I forgot exactly what to do but you have to do additional steps after flashing twrp if you don't want that you can also try redwolf though I personally haven't tried that. Good luck
I say if you're satisfied with MIUI as it is, then don't install LineageOS etc.
Lightracer said:
I say if you're satisfied with MIUI as it is, then don't install LineageOS etc.
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I'm really satisfied, just wanna know why lineageOS is so overrated.
stavrakas2007 said:
I'm really satisfied, just wanna know why lineageOS is so overrated.
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It depends on the user, some are perfectly fine with MIUI & some still prefer stock android experience like LineageOS, AEX, RR, etc.(It's not just LOS, there's a lot of custom ROMs out there, personally i really don't like LOS coz it's just so plain), Me for example, i've been using MIUI for almost a year on my previous phone Redmi 4 Prime, i really like it that time because its smooth and it has a good battery life. In time i got tired of its UI & i want to try something new. Good thing there's a lot of great Custom ROM devs who maintain these ROMs, a got a good experience with it, at my current situation using a well maintained Custom ROM, i think i'm never going back to MIUI.
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It depends on the user, some are perfectly fine with MIUI & some still prefer stock android experience like LineageOS, AEX, RR, etc.(It's not just LOS, there's a lot of custom ROMs out there, personally i really don't like LOS coz it's just so plain), Me for example, i've been using MIUI for almost a year on my previous phone Redmi 4 Prime, i really like it that time because its smooth and it has a good battery life. In time i got tired of its UI & i want to try something new. Good thing there's a lot of great Custom ROM devs who maintain these ROMs, a got a good experience with it, at my current situation using a well maintained Custom ROM, i think i'm never going back to MIUI.
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It depends on user, I get it.
For me it just feels bad to know that you re not going to get any updates from xiaomi anymore. The only reason I should update in the Future is if Oreo never comes. Nougat is too old.
FYI, the custom ROM that could be said have almost complete functionality is Oreo (LOS or AOSP based).
But per my experience using custom ROM Oreo, battery drain faster than stock miui. I think this is due to the Oreo itself, not sure if later the stock MIUI oreo will have same battery problem or not.
Good thing you will get from those custom ROMs are, almost fully functional Google Camera mod. Mine only have problem with front camera portrait, the rest no problem.
But in stock MIUI, Google Camera mod quite buggy, frequent FC.
Btw, you also could try some MIUI based custom ROM, which should be still Nougat.
You can still get the feel of MIUI with more features, and should be more stable compare with non-MIUI based Nougat custom ROM.
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Miui is not bad too (better battery life, one hand mode, gestures, etc.) but I'm afraid there will be spy apps preinstalled in there so I have no choice but to flash custom rom. I think you can revert it to MIUI and not lose warranty. If you have past experience 99%. You have to unlock bootloader first then flash twrp and install su after that your choice if you want to flash roms. I forgot exactly what to do but you have to do additional steps after flashing twrp if you don't want that you can also try redwolf though I personally haven't tried that. Good luck
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Well according to miui flashing and tooting doesn't void the phone warranty i have personally asked to miui customer care service and they said that flashing or rooting won't cost you your phone's warranty. If you want you can ask tie customer care representative yourself.
Thanks man
Sudhangshu said:
Well according to miui flashing and tooting doesn't void the phone warranty i have personally asked to miui customer care service and they said that flashing or rooting won't cost you your phone's warranty. If you want you can ask tie customer care representative yourself.
Thanks man
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Sounds cool. Main reason I post this thread is to hear some users compare cons and plus to miui and custom roms. Thanks
I prefer stock android based roms . They are "light weight" and the phone runs faster in my opinion but miui is more stable because there are much more developers to support it . It's a matter of preference of course but now i use Resurrection Remix which is an amazing rom with a lot of customasation features way more than MIUI for example , also RR is also on Android Oreo with the latest security patch .
MIUI is a way faster and you will get Regular update.
Use MIUI and root it with magisk.
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2 things i love custom rom are.
1. ez to change icon size
2. smart notification bar
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I have tried all the custom roms and for lineageOS rom..
pro's
- Faster UI than Miui
- way more UI features
- it has an app drawer :silly:
- Battery lasts longer than Miui
- it is anddroid Oreo
- supports VOLTE
- fingerprint reader is faster
- google camera port and camera api2 owns Miui camera
Basically nothing in MIUI is better, it is slow, old and goofy, it is rubbish and if you don't install a custom rom you should give the phone to me to fix it by removing MIUI :victory:
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Lol, I see that most users prefer miui for battery performance coz Oreo is draining fast. Anyways, is there a guide for newbies on how to get Google Camera working portrait mode HDR+ step by step?
(Without losing warranty or changing ROM)
stavrakas2007 said:
Hello, new to XDA and specifically to Android devices. I love the whole experience with my redmi 5 plus. Just wondering why so many people use the lineageOS. I mean is it really worth it?
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Yes
Hey, I'm kinda out of the track for newest ROMs in Mido world but I'm looking for one which gonna ends up in hands of person that's completely not tech savvy.
Below some wishes:
0. not MIUI or MIUI mod
1. vanilla as much as possible, zero additional features like top bar customization - it's not gonna be used anyway
2. stable as much as possible, without any major issue or sys apps crashing, this person can panic when sees some kind of error
3. longest battery life (kernel changes can be made) - even if it's going to hurt performance or smooth experience but .2 is still more important
4. working encryption
5. Pie but I'm not gonna be mad if Oreo
6. future updates or OTA isn't needed, because .2 is more important, also not gonna be used
Oreo=LineageOS + Franco kernel + root (Magisk)
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Hey, I'm kinda out of the track for newest ROMs in Mido world but I'm looking for one which gonna ends up in hands of person that's completely not tech savvy.
Below some wishes:
0. not MIUI or MIUI mod
1. vanilla as much as possible, zero additional features like top bar customization - it's not gonna be used anyway
2. stable as much as possible, without any major issue or sys apps crashing, this person can panic when sees some kind of error
3. longest battery life (kernel changes can be made) - even if it's going to hurt performance or smooth experience but .2 is still more important
4. working encryption
5. Pie but I'm not gonna be mad if Oreo
6. future updates or OTA isn't needed, because .2 is more important, also not gonna be used
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Pie=IDK
Aex pie is very stable
I've been using aex+stock kernel
Maybe custom kernel can give better battery life but stock already gives 2 days of use
I had put this rom on someone else's phone and point 2 was very important for me too. Its been about 2 months and we've had no problems
AICP Oreo gonna be my advice
Pixel Experience
Havoc 2.9 I recommended. You can use stock kernel. I think batery performans perfect.
Hi,
I'm used to installing, testing and adapting custom roms for android. I even used to write one "minimoto" for the old Moto Droid series back when I had more time.
Nowadays, I'm a busy dad who can't spend lots of time testing things out, so I'm reaching out for help in finding a good, minimal, stable rom for my MI A3.
Don't care what version of android it is, just stability and minimalism/battery are all that matter.
So far I've tried
- CRDroid - fast, minimal, excellent battery life, but with no disrespect to the developers who are in the early stages with this port, it's got way too many bugs (like no GPS, website forms failing for weird reasons, busted playstore requiring manual fixes........).
- EvolutionX 6.22 - a weird mix of very fancy configurable UI elements, but missing apps like camera, and lots of bugs. Gallery doesn't work at all, phone hard locks apps like signal at least once a day, requiring a reboot. A bit slow, and again with no disrespect to the developers, too buggy for daily use.
Can anyone help me find something that just works, and has the minimal amount of services/apps pre-installed?
Failing that, any stable rom and I'll use ADB as root to remove the clag myself.
Thanks for your time,
Thingonaspring
Cool, you've tested those already.
Have you tried PixelExperience? (I've not tested yet, been waiting for someone else to do it )
Now testing pixelexperience, and it appears so far to be very solid.
Fast, has working GPS and camera, no gallery app, but installing google photos fixes that.
@thingonaspring be on the lookout for lack of updates, one of the maintainers declared the ROM as EOL'd but I'm not sure if someone else picked it up.
Checking back in. It's defintely pixel experience for the win.
29% battery use in a day, no crashes.
Admittedly I didn't use it much, but that's just a superb result.
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@thingonaspring be on the lookout for lack of updates, one of the maintainers declared the ROM as EOL'd but I'm not sure if someone else picked it up.
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I hear you on the lack of updates. As long as the security layer updates itself, I'm not inclined to worry too much.
I do wish I had enough time to maintain my own rom again. Maybe in a few years when the kid starts college......
@thingonaspring which one of the many PixelExperience versions did you test? How is testing going? My gf's Mi A3 stock has many bugs and I'd like to get a custom ROM on it for her. Is the process easy enough (bootloader unlock, recovery, flash)? Any guide you followed I could use too?
Good point, there's more than one pixelexperience. I used this one :-
[ROM][12][MI-A3] PixelExperience [AOSP] [Permissive]
[ROM][12][MI-A3] PixelExperience [AOSP] [Permissive] PixelExperience for MI-A3 [laurel-sprout] What is this? PixelExperience is an AOSP based ROM, with Google apps included and all Pixel goodies (launcher, wallpapers, icons, fonts, boot...
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There are still quirks to this rom, I had to switch off adaptive battery (the default) as I was missing loads of notifications from Signal app, and it's crashed once or twice requiring a reboot, but nothing as bad as I've seen from other MI A3 custom roms.
I had a bit of a journey figuring out the flashing process. It turns out the trick is to ignore the slot a/b stuff and just flash everything everywhere. So flash recovery to slot a+b, the flash the rom to slot a+b, and wipe the data partition (factory reset, all data lost). To guard against that, copy any data you can to SDCard, or better still a PC, before flashing.
See this question, and @heinhuiz excellent answer, for more info on how to flash a slot a/b system.
Confused by slot a/b and recoveries
Previous android phones I've used - and there have been a lot of them - have used TWRP for recovery, and that's allowed backup of system+data. You then flash a rom to test, decide it's not for you, restore the system+data, job done. The MI A3...
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TL;DR - it's not like twrp recovery on older phones. The recovery+kernel both occupy the boot partition, so it's more a case of flashing the recovery+kernel that ships with your chosen rom via fastboot, then using that new recovery to install the rom itself, from a zipfile on sdcard.
In this process having an a/b slot for the boot and system partitions is just an unnecessary confusion. Flash the a+b recovery both to the same version, then do the same with the new custom rom (flash A, reboot, flash B, reboot), then clear data and get on with your life.
thingonaspring said:
Checking back in. It's defintely pixel experience for the win.
29% battery use in a day, no crashes.
Admittedly I didn't use it much, but that's just a superb result.
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I've had PixelExperience installed for a couple of days and it seems to chew through a LOT of battery. have had to leave it plugged in while at work. also hate the Camera Go app. missing a lot of features
thingonaspring said:
Hi,
I'm used to installing, testing and adapting custom roms for android. I even used to write one "minimoto" for the old Moto Droid series back when I had more time.
Nowadays, I'm a busy dad who can't spend lots of time testing things out, so I'm reaching out for help in finding a good, minimal, stable rom for my MI A3.
Don't care what version of android it is, just stability and minimalism/battery are all that matter.
So far I've tried
- CRDroid - fast, minimal, excellent battery life, but with no disrespect to the developers who are in the early stages with this port, it's got way too many bugs (like no GPS, website forms failing for weird reasons, busted playstore requiring manual fixes........).
- EvolutionX 6.22 - a weird mix of very fancy configurable UI elements, but missing apps like camera, and lots of bugs. Gallery doesn't work at all, phone hard locks apps like signal at least once a day, requiring a reboot. A bit slow, and again with no disrespect to the developers, too buggy for daily use.
Can anyone help me find something that just works, and has the minimal amount of services/apps pre-installed?
Failing that, any stable rom and I'll use ADB as root to remove the clag myself.
Thanks for your time,
Thingonaspring
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Bro, I'm using Corvus OS 12L. Can't believe this is more smoother and faster than stock rom. Best rom ever. Better than pixel experience it has no customisation, but the corvus has a lot.
couldn't find corvus, but I've settled on this now
[ROM][12.1][LAUREL_SPROUT] PixelPlusUI [OFFICIAL] [Twelve][AOSP]
* Your warranty is now void. * We are not responsible for anything that may happen to your phone by installing any custom ROMs and/or kernels. * You do it at your own risk and take the responsibility upon yourself and you are not to blame us or...
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And it's good. One tip, goto settings->battery and disable the pixel battery plan, just use the default one. Without that change I had apps hanging and deep-sleeping, causing me to miss messages from signal/whatsapp.
Battery is fine - I get 2 days out of it with no drama.
thingonaspring said:
Hi,
I'm used to installing, testing and adapting custom roms for android. I even used to write one "minimoto" for the old Moto Droid series back when I had more time.
Nowadays, I'm a busy dad who can't spend lots of time testing things out, so I'm reaching out for help in finding a good, minimal, stable rom for my MI A3.
Don't care what version of android it is, just stability and minimalism/battery are all that matter.
So far I've tried
- CRDroid - fast, minimal, excellent battery life, but with no disrespect to the developers who are in the early stages with this port, it's got way too many bugs (like no GPS, website forms failing for weird reasons, busted playstore requiring manual fixes........).
- EvolutionX 6.22 - a weird mix of very fancy configurable UI elements, but missing apps like camera, and lots of bugs. Gallery doesn't work at all, phone hard locks apps like signal at least once a day, requiring a reboot. A bit slow, and again with no disrespect to the developers, too buggy for daily use.
Can anyone help me find something that just works, and has the minimal amount of services/apps pre-installed?
Failing that, any stable rom and I'll use ADB as root to remove the clag myself.
Thank
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Cherish OS A13. Best rom ever with lots of customization.
Hi, I'm interested in picking up a BC62 but are any of the currently available ROMs stable enough for daily driving?
I'm still living in the last decade and prefer the fully custom experience, but I suppose just getting root and bootloader unlock may be sufficient nowadays...
Apologies if this question is an easy one or frequently asked, I couldn't find much.
as you see, there is no supported custom roms for this device. You can try GSI roms.
unfortunately price too high and community not enough for devs
Well technically there's one custom ROM...but idk if it's still gonna be supported...i may try to build some now that the guides are up tho
I see there are a few abandoned ones under development but there's little talk about living with them. Guess nobody really does, ha.
Circumstances are just pushing me to switch carriers (and therefore phones) and it's hard to part with the custom ROM life. At least Sony OEM software is decent and root/unlock is actually supported.
I look forward your future projects, @Ainz_Ooal_Gown !
Stormwing said:
I see there are a few abandoned ones under development but there's little talk about living with them. Guess nobody really does, ha.
Circumstances are just pushing me to switch carriers (and therefore phones) and it's hard to part with the custom ROM life. At least Sony OEM software is decent and root/unlock is actually supported.
I look forward your future projects, @Ainz_Ooal_Gown !
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Im using GSI a11 on xq-bc72. Everything works fine battery life is pretty good.
Im debating if I should go back stock but im trying to build 13
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Im using GSI a11 on xq-bc72. Everything works fine battery life is pretty good.
Im debating if I should go back stock but im trying to build 13
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And how it works?
i just tried GSI a12 rom and camera didn`t work, ambient display didn`t work, autobrightness didn`t work. Back to stock
I used the Lineage ROM that's here ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-unofficial-lineageos-18-1-for-xperia-1-iii.4431701 ) for a few months. Unfortunately it comes with an outdated VideoPro app that can't be updated due to missing libraries (Theoretically you can if you mod a newer APK, but I'm not very experienced in coding and wasn't able to make it work). Also this meant Sony-specific apps like 3D creator, etc... won't install or update without modding them.
The only other problem I noticed was 5G NSA didn't work, just LTE with carrier aggregation at best. This wasn't a big problem personally since 5G NSA isn't reaaaallly an improvement all else being equal.
There were a couple other bugs / differences. The assistant button wouldn't function even with the Xperia+ app, and using the camera button to open the camera app behaved differently in a way that I didn't like. Probably a couple smaller things I'm forgetting about that I just lived with without issue.
Not being able to update or install Sony-specific apps was the deal breaker eventually. If I knew how to mod APK's to install/update them, I'd still be on that ROM today. It was actually really good. My battery life was noticeably better (probably mostly due to lack of 5G), I had no stability issues, the ROM was light and fast and I got all the customization that comes with Lineage out of the box.
i get it why there arent custom roms. what i dont get why arent any debloated stock rom either. sony does not have bloatware ?
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i get it why there arent custom roms. what i dont get why arent any debloated stock rom either. sony does not have bloatware ?
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Because there's no value in doing this.
Just get a root uninstaller and yeet the bloat.
As someone who tried a lot of roms, just don't. They all have serious demerits that are just not worth it.
Honestly it's quite jarring coming from Xiaomi/Samsung where custom roms are extensive are necessary or a worthwhile alternative respectively. I hoped we wouldn't need the size of community for this phone as everything is supposedly open source (or provided), but experience tells us otherwise. The phone is just too expensive -> phone doesn't go to eastern (read: eastern-europe and SE asia) developers and development just never takes off.
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And how it works?
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it works pretty good. i dont care for 5g camera works. its pretty fast. thev only thing is camera from lockscreen and reverse wireless charrging
So im looking into getting a custom rom installed on my ZF9 now that they have finally begun development, but im really unsure of which i should uses. Omnirom seems to be the one with most interactions, Blissrom seems like a nice rom but its fairly new and bugs are probably everywhere. Topaz seems like a little in between, a fair amount of interaction but still under omnirom.
Im not after the one with most features, just best battery life and stability.
Which one of them would you recommend? Currenty running magisk with stock .113 FW with Kirisakura kernel.
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So im looking into getting a custom rom installed on my ZF9 now that they have finally begun development, but im really unsure of which i should uses. Omnirom seems to be the one with most interactions, Blissrom seems like a nice rom but its fairly new and bugs are probably everywhere. Topaz seems like a little in between, a fair amount of interaction but still under omnirom.
Im not after the one with most features, just best battery life and stability.
Which one of them would you recommend? Currenty running magisk with stock .113 FW with Kirisakura kernel.
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Hi,
No offense here but without even trying any of the custom roms u mentioned in your list how are you even judging that these roms have bugs and that rom is between ?
jackeagle said:
Hi,
No offense here but without even trying any of the custom roms u mentioned in your list how are you even judging that these roms have bugs and that rom is between ?
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Cause Ive gone through all of the roms topics on here. Omniroms comments arent as bug focused as like Paranoids, more like how to install it. Blissrom is fairly new and got like no comments at all. And i know, Roms can be bug free, but these Roms have been out for like a month or two now, so can they really be bug free after 2 months development?
I just wanted the opinions of someone thats used one of them.
I no longer have the ZF9, but when I did I tried OmniROM and AOSPA Topaz Beta. I preferred the smoothness of Topaz over OmniROM by far. However, that was many months ago and OmniROM may have been improved since then.
The battery on Topaz was also slightly improved over stock, if that matters to you!
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I no longer have the ZF9, but when I did I tried OmniROM and AOSPA Topaz Beta. I preferred the smoothness of Topaz over OmniROM by far. However, that was many months ago and OmniROM may have been improved since then.
The battery on Topaz was also slightly improved over stock, if that matters to you!
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Battery performance matters a lot to me, might try Topaz first, and then maybe omnirom.
The only issue i have so far is that bluetooth EATS the battery. Checking the battery usage graph doesnt show anything out of the ordinary, bluetooth uses like 2% after 3h etc.
However i always have like 15% left after a whole day (8h) with bluetooth on, and thats with 10h since last fully charged along side 2-3h of SoT. Without bluetooth i can EASILY get over a day on standby with 6h+ of SoT.
Im hoping the issue im having is software related since other people have reported it too.
@DankDeuxez, have you tried both of them? What is your opinion?
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@DankDeuxez, have you tried both of them? What is your opinion?
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Ive not tried one yet because of other things. Although since you asked i might as well go ahead and try and flash omnirom tonight. Omnirom seems like the most polished rom so far.
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Ive not tried one yet because of other things. Although since you asked i might as well go ahead and try and flash omnirom tonight. Omnirom seems like the most polished rom so far.
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UPDATE: Ok, so i tried almost all of the available roms yesterday, but it seems like none of them worked on my phone. Topaz wouldnt even install. Got the recovery installed perfectly fine, but whenever i tried to install the rom, it just wouldnt work, stating it was missing certain files etc.
Omnirom also wouldnt work. I managed to install TWRP after a few tries with random things going wrong such as not being able to show up on the computer, random decryption etc. BUT even if i got TWRP to work in the end, Omnirom would still just fail upon installation and trying to boot the phone just froze on the ASUS logo.
But since i got TWRP to work as intended i just installed the stock rom in the end. Everything is back to normal and im not sure when or even IF im going to try a custom rom again.