Looking for some Roms compatible with the Redmi note 5/ Redmi 5 plus
Just btw., after thoroughly testing everything there is for my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (for example, even including unofficial LineageOS on Android 10) I've been able to see that:
Everything is based on LineageOS, and since there are issues with it: everything gets carried down the line, and no way around it (meaning that seems to be the situation with 90% of ROMs, except for the serious projects - such as mostly ones made for Google Pixel devices)
Battery will only, ever, last 1/2 that of stock (and there will be heating issues). Besides of the ROMs, also had tried running a combination of all different kernels. From what I've been able to figure out (which is very little, as if you couldn't tell), it's probably the case of having no throttling management - and the SoC is simply running unclocked all of the time; also, it's the question of not properly implementing any refresh-rate management, so, again, there's no throttling and it's just at the highest (configured) all of the time and killing battery.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it and, hope it helps!
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Besides of Sunil Paul Mathew's "Package Manager", on F-Droid, there's also the Szaki "XiaomiADBFastbootTools" on GitHub that's a (very!) nice tool for de-bloating Xiaomi devices.
^^ Which is, probably, what could make more sense than going for a custom ROM. =)
EDIT: Just make sure that you're getting ADB platform-tools from source. A lot of people like to repackage them (for some reason?!) and it may be impossible to know whether it has been tampered with. Google's Android download page is at:
Code:
https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools
(And there's a Magisk module, as well, but the developer has joined Google earlier this year, and it's seemingly, unfortunately, the end of Magisk; development had been halted at version 23)
This is off-topic and I hope it's not too intrusive, just for anyone who may wonder into this thread... topjohnwu the Magisk developer, used to be with Apple - and then joined Google; used to develop Magisk, while with Apple and now he's going as far as to make this kind of a Twitter post (about the Apple watch):
Code:
https://mobile.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1446164039776673793
... Very disappointing, people have tried to defend his decision of going to Google, and I guess that it's perfectly understandable wanting a good job (but I've been 100% certain that it's the end of Magisk), anyway, meh! ;$
Screenshot:
Code:
https://ibb.co/KN4xd8F
*you know, why do that... what's the need for something like it, aanyway
conditae said:
Just btw., after thoroughly testing everything there is for my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (for example, even including unofficial LineageOS on Android 10) I've been able to see that:
Everything is based on LineageOS, and since there are issues with it: everything gets carried down the line, and no way around it (meaning that seems to be the situation with 90% of ROMs, except for the serious projects - such as mostly ones made for Google Pixel devices)
Battery will only, ever, last 1/2 that of stock (and there will be heating issues). Besides of the ROMs, also had tried running a combination of all different kernels. From what I've been able to figure out (which is very little, as if you couldn't tell), it's probably the case of having no throttling management - and the SoC is simply running unclocked all of the time; also, it's the question of not properly implementing any refresh-rate management, so, again, there's no throttling and it's just at the highest (configured) all of the time and killing battery.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it and, hope it helps!
P.S.
Besides of Sunil Paul Mathew's "Package Manager", on F-Droid, there's also the Szaki "XiaomiADBFastbootTools" on GitHub that's a (very!) nice tool for de-bloating Xiaomi devices.
^^ Which is, probably, what could make more sense than going for a custom ROM. =)
EDIT: Just make sure that you're getting ADB platform-tools from source. A lot of people like to repackage them (for some reason?!) and it may be impossible to know whether it has been tampered with. Google's Android download page is at:
Code:
https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools
(And there's a Magisk module, as well, but the developer has joined Google earlier this year, and it's seemingly, unfortunately, the end of Magisk; development had been halted at version 23)
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I really appreciate your comment though I am currently only looking for recommendations on which Roms I can flash on my redmi note 5, and if possible overclock it
Btw, I have already flashed an MIUI 12.5(Android 11) rom on my phone which is much smoother compared to the stock MIUI 11(Android 8.1) though I fell a lack of software skin changes that's why I am looking for recommendations on custom roms.
Thank you.
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Release kernel source so we can update here status about development
Without Source Code, it's almost Impossible to Make Stable Custom ROMS, And Thus Santoni is getting a Delay in every aspect.
I am new to Xiaomi community. But the thing is I love exploring new tech stuff. I find this community in xda very helpful for the likes of me. I love exploring android stuff, like flashing custom roms, kernels, and stuff. It is also a challenge to me because I am new to MIUI environment. Wish me luck. Happy flashing.
Official source code is released now, coming from a Galaxy S3 and a HTC 10 is a bit disappointing seeing the development scene, Galaxy S3 had a kernel being maintained 5 years (Boeffla Kernel) yet I've seen too many developers ending their project very fast here, yet again the Galaxy S3 community is (or was) way bigger.. I'd love to use a plain and stable AOSP ROM that's maintained often but unfortunately I don't see that on Redmi 4X, so I'm just using a tweaked MIUI and Gabriel kernel which subjectively for me is the best; responsive developer, most customizeable (it has its own Stweaks!), and overall still maintained although slow recently
(No paid shill)
I am looking forward to trying some of the Lineage OS cooked ROMs. The MIUI Stock is kind of sluggish.
I've tried several AOSP based ROMs for about 6 months on this device and I can give my two cents about the development scene.
Mind that, of course, it's all volunteer work and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just telling my experience as an end user.
1) Lately, most Santoni developers migrated their ROMs to Treble only. This means a couple of things.
- Instead of continuing to use official TWRP and plain Magisk, you'll now have to use an unofficial recovery (because TWRP official doesn't support treble for our device) and a modded version of Magisk.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather put something signed by a recognized developer on my phone, such as the people from TWRP and the Magisk dev, than a random "modded" ZIP from the web. Not only for security, but because it is less prone to bugs. Agree with me?
Yet, the former is now the installation process for most Santoni ROMs.
- If you were lucky enough to use one of those ROMs before the Treble migration, you now have to nuke everything on your phone just to update your system to the Treble version. Fun, right?
You found THE ROM for your phone, and now you're nuking everything again.
- Despite the above mess, I can't say any advantage of using Treble on this device, besides being able to flash GSIs. But flashing GSI means you didn't bother with the original ROM anyway. So why are most ROMs Treble only? It seems just a trendy thing with more inconveniences than benefits for our device.
- Also, some people report the treble ROMs are more buggy. Lose-lose situation?
2) Right now we have many ROMs for Santoni. But when you go choose, you see that many are abandoned and most of the rest are Treble, with the "hacky" installation method.
3) On that mess, you may still find a ROM that suits you and your Santoni. You'll settle, adapt to its bugs or even find some workarounds. Great, right? But after a couple of months the developer can (and most will) completely abandon it, leaving you having to find another ROM to keep updated.
Or he won't abandon it, but he'll decide to switch to Treble only. Oh boy.
So there you go, nuke your whole phone again and start from zero.
Both situations happened even to ROMs with official status.
4) Many ROMs updates will come with the suggestion of "clean flashing". Now, I know this isn't strictly necessary, but in some situations dirty flashing can really cause bugs.
So, good luck reinstalling everything just to update your system. Even with some tool such as TitaniumBackup, it's a tedious process. Even more when you're expected to do it every few weeks.
5) Many ROMs have an erratic update schedule. On Monday the dev ships an update, and you flash it. But on Tuesday he sees he screwed everything because of not testing properly before shipping, and there you are, having to flash a new update. (I hope you didn't do a clean flash yesterday!)
Even when the updates aren't so close to each other, most ROMs have an almost random release schedule.
6) Now this I think is not exclusive to this device, but most ROMs won't notify you when there is an update. You'll have to keep an eye on a Telegram channel or here in the forum, as if you didn't have a life.
Even when they notify you, the update process is manual.
7) There are some bugs I always find on most Santoni Oreo ROMs and after half a year they are still there.
For example, I found video recording to be terrible in every custom ROM I've tried (I've tried most). Bad auto-focus, bad audio, etc. It doesn't matter which camera app you use. Yet it is still there.
Also, voice recording can be extremely quiet on some ROMs (luckly I've found a way to fix it).
Not to mention the battery drain, present everywhere (for which I only found a workaround - not a solution).
So the impression is that the effort is going to the trendy things (Treble) instead of fixing the existing bugs. The months pass and we have the same bugs, or even new ones.
8) Feedback about bug reporting can be non-existent or dismissive.
You report the problem and some developers won't bother. Others will say the problem doesn't even exist.
In a nutshell, there are many AOSP based ROMs for Santoni, but the development isn't as reliable as it could be. The general feeling is that it's too erratic and amateurish. Old bugs are not solved; new ones are introduced; the installation process is made worse for no apparent reason; you are forced to lose many hours reconfiguring your device just to keep it up to date. Also, I have seen no intention to mimic/pre-load some features we have on MIUI.
However, despite all the negatives points I offered, I can't compare the dev scene to other devices. Does Santoni has a better dev scene than some other phones? Probably.
For me, right now, I don't find those ROMs to be worth it. Life is short, and I'm back to MIUI. I'm using Xiaomi.eu, and I'm very pleased in comparison.
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Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included.
Giving major features example: about battery backup, most/all custom ROMs has cutoff voltage(poweroff at set mV, aprox.) set to 3200mV, but in MIUI it's set to 3400mV. This makes huge differences in battery backup and health,(though it's changeable) and one of the reasons why custom ROMs are known to have much better battery life. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. There were few errors running all the time in logs, while I tested. ROMs using effects, total stability, and months testing whole other things I can't explain easily here, I found none of the ROMs fully configured to keep pace with MIUI. Stable doesn't mean optimized. What daily users need, they are happy, need not to find out. What power users need, they can go through hard testing and debugging. Our custom ROMs are still in halfway to have real stability and other effects, comparison to stock MIUI. Though they have much newer and upgraded features, they lacks as well.
Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
shohabmsk said:
Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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Good for you.
Pretty good support and all considering it's pretty unpopular phone
Hi everyone,
I can't find a satisfactory answer on my favorite search engines, so I thought I'd come here and ask. Sorry if this question has already been put on the table, carved, sliced and gobbled, I couldn't find trace of it in the forum's search engine either.
My phone's a Leagoo T5c that will forever be stuck on Android 7.0, it seems, because the OEM has already lost interest, and because its SoC makes it difficult, if not downright impossible, to find a suitable custom ROM.
The latest ROM I could find and install on this phone goes back to August of 2018 (no-no, no typos), and its Security Update is even one month older (July 2018).
My question is in the title: Is it possible to install Security Updates without reinstalling/updating/upgrading the firmware itself, like you would in, say, Windows or any other OS, I presume?
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Hi everyone,
I can't find a satisfactory answer on my favorite search engines, so I thought I'd come here and ask. Sorry if this question has already been put on the table, carved, sliced and gobbled, I couldn't find trace of it in the forum's search engine either.
My phone's a Leagoo T5c that will forever be stuck on Android 7.0, it seems, because the OEM has already lost interest, and because its SoC makes it difficult, if not downright impossible, to find a suitable custom ROM.
The latest ROM I could find and install on this phone goes back to August of 2018 (no-no, no typos), and its Security Update is even one month older (July 2018).
My question is in the title: Is it possible to install Security Updates without reinstalling/updating/upgrading the firmware itself, like you would in, say, Windows or any other OS, I presume?
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With android 10 were introduced Google play security updates that lets you received security updates (not all of them unfortunately, some requires to upgrade) without updating the full OS. You can't do it because you're stuck with the wrong Android version
Hopefully you won't have any issues with hacking but consider buying a new phone when you'll get a chance
Security updates get rolled out as OTA by OEM/Carrier if they consider it's necessary. You can't force it. Theoretically, all Android smartphones should get around two years of security updates. However, the reality is often very different.
The Leagoo T5c is a small-budget phone what was sold for 99 USD - so more or less a disposable item. You cannot expect OEM/Carrier to have any interest in providing updates for such a phone.
Thank you both for your explanations. I understand that Android works differently when it comes to updating itself, mostly because Google isn't the only party to have a voice in the chapter; still, it's unnerving to see that the end-user is more or less captive anyway.
It kinda defeats the very purpose of an open-source OS, to have to wait for an OEM to release (or not) an update, when you could install the patches yourself.
As for buying another phone, well, as soon as I've got the dough, I will, believe me. Not because I'm dissatisfied with this one, but because I don't like the idea of totting around with a phone that hasn't seen a security update in over two years.
I'm also seriously considering moving to Ubuntu Touch, though there again, my phone's exotic platform could be problematic. Custom ROMs seems to be as complicated an avenue as others, too.
All in all, Android isn't what they sold me: It's not secure, it's not "free", it's just another way to make you shell out bucks for new hardware every couple years.
Android is just iOS without the eye-candy, you ask me...
UglyStuff said:
Thank you both for your explanations. I understand that Android works differently when it comes to updating itself, mostly because Google isn't the only party to have a voice in the chapter; still, it's unnerving to see that the end-user is more or less captive anyway.
It kinda defeats the very purpose of an open-source OS, to have to wait for an OEM to release (or not) an update, when you could install the patches yourself.
As for buying another phone, well, as soon as I've got the dough, I will, believe me. Not because I'm dissatisfied with this one, but because I don't like the idea of totting around with a phone that hasn't seen a security update in over two years.
I'm also seriously considering moving to Ubuntu Touch, though there again, my phone's exotic platform could be problematic. Custom ROMs seems to be as complicated an avenue as others, too.
All in all, Android isn't what they sold me: It's not secure, it's not "free", it's just another way to make you shell out bucks for new hardware every couple years.
Android is just iOS without the eye-candy, you ask me...
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Android isn't iOS precisely because you can break free from your OEM by flashing a custom ROM. You can develop one for almost any device as long as the OEM releases the kernel source code. And most OEM do (expect for some very unknown phones).
Custom ROMs like GrapheneOS are made to free you from google Services and are truly privacy oriented. And all of that is possible because Android is open source.
Trust me, the Android community has always worked actively to counter aging of their devices (including me).
Just buy a phone with a solid community behind and you'll be able to keep it up to date a looong time
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Android isn't iOS precisely because you can break free from your OEM by flashing a custom ROM. You can develop one for almost any device as long as the OEM releases the kernel source code. And most OEM do (expect for some very unknown phones).
Custom ROMs like GrapheneOS are made to free you from google Services and are truly privacy oriented. And all of that is possible because Android is open source.
Trust me, the Android community has always worked actively to counter aging of their devices (including me).
Just buy a phone with a solid community behind and you'll be able to keep it up to date a looong time
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I agree with you in principle, but if I must take an example: I have this Early 2006 MacBook Pro with a Core Duo CPU that precludes me from even installing Mac OS X 10.7 "Lion" on it, because the CPU is 32-bit-only, and Lion requires a 64-bit CPU.
The machine itself works very well, albeit a bit slowly, but then it's got only 2 GB of RAM and a 120-GB SSD. When I got fed-up with OS X applications not updating/upgrading and Firefox addons not installing because my copy of Firefox was too old, I partitioned the SSD, installed rEFInd as boot manager, and installed Zorin 15.2 (now 15.3) Lite 32-bit.
I now spend more time on the Linux side of this Mac than on the OS X side, and updating/upgrading it is a breeze, either via the dedicated application or in Terminal. I know there'll be an end-of-the-line there too, someday, but at least I'll keep using this Mac until it truly dies on me, not when Apple tells me it's dead.
This, for me, is the very essence of open-source: Not just the fact that it's free, but that you can revive an old machine and keep it running long after Apple et al have decided that it had gone the way of the dinosaurs.
The same doesn't apply to Android, alas. Here, you must have a compatible SoC/chipset/what-have-you, a Treble-compatible device, you must have this, you must have that...
In the end, only a fraction of Android users really get to enjoy everything their device has to offer for as long as they choose; the others just pop into the nearest phone store, be it brick-and-mortar or cyber, and must produce their credit card.
My question was as much a challenge to myself as anything else. I would really like to learn how Android works, but the tutorials and articles I've found here and there are all a bit cryptic.
That's why I'm regularly prowling this forum, I guess.
"Hunting high and low", as the song goes... :laugh:
yep, good question but google & manufactures are in it for the moola not the users 2 yr old phone.
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yep, good question but google & manufactures are in it for the moola not the users 2 yr old phone.
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Don't I know it! It's true that even budget phones have decent specs nowadays, still, why dump a perfectly functioning phone simply because you can't update/upgrade the software?
I understand Google's rationale, of course: They invest tons of money year after year after year to keep the whole boat afloat, and they need a steady income. OK. Still, to not be able to keep your phone ***safe*** is a no-go for me.
I'm seriously beginning to think about installing Ubuntu Touch on the device. I think I'm going to try that next weekend.
I'll probably come back here with my eyes red, asking for help in unbricking my phone, though.
Stay tuned! :good:
A followup, if you are mindful of your own security it's conceivable to get more usage of that android. I don't use a banking app, but if need be use a good browser( thats updated of course) And update all often used apps via playstore. I'm still running Oreo on my phone. FYI you iOS ppl need to do critical updates asap
So, I've got the Blackview BV9900Pro which as you probably know if you are reading this, is a wonderfully well priced, rugged phone with the Lepton FLIR camera built in. Being a Treble device, it is possible to install most GSI ROMs to it, however there is currently no build of TWRP, and thus far, nobody seems to have been able to get the FLIR working on the GSIs. This presents two problems. First, recovery is a wonderfully useful tool to have, and the stock recovery leaves a lot to be desired, Second, the FLIR is the main reason for buying the pro model of this phone, rendering custom ROMs virtually useless.
That being said, I love this phone, and want to start to work on both. This will be a major learning curve as a) I'm not a developer by trade (I'm a marine engineer and environmental officer on a cruise line) and b) My job takes 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week when I am on board leaving me with limited time to put into it. I've built Linux from scratch (LFS back a number of years ago) which gave me good experience with the build environment and with compiling code / troubleshooting issues so I am confident I can pull it off, but I'm intersted in gauging if there is interest in publishing my work for others ot use.
If you have the 9900Pro phone, and are intersted in either TWRP and/or custom ROMs that support the FLIR, drop me a reply here and let me know. If you have any experience with modifying custom ROMs to work with vendor hardware, I would LOVE to hear about it - it will perhaps help guide me in my efforts. One of my biggest peeves with the phone is the lack of support for basic features (ie, SIP calling is not natively supported in the vendor's ROM) and the bugginess of the OS (apps being closed int he background, widgets not loading on boot etc). The GSI I am running now (Lineage) solves these issues, but the lack of IR camera really devalues the phone, so I'm hopeful that I can resolve the issue, and make this phone worth having.
Also, if anyone knows how to go about adding a new device to the forum tree, please chime in. I'm completely new to this whole developer support thing but comitted to making it work!
Cheers everyone!
Hi everyone,
let me preface this with saying that I have searched for similar threads to avoid redundant threads, and I didn't find anything similar to this. I apologize in case I somehow missed it and am accidentally making a duplicate thread. That said, let's continue.
I recently got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S. I really love the hardware - it's pretty good for its price; the battery capacity is high, I like the 90Hz refresh rate and the AMOLED screen, decent storage capacity, and the 33W fast charging is really cool too.
The software, however, is another story. Firstly, there is a lot of bloatware. Various stores, games, etc. that I never asked for. And even worse, secondly, on every corner there is a privacy violation. Every time I clicked on a different app, I needed to accept a different user agreement, privacy policy, or something similar. The camera app literally requires an internet connection and yet another ToS agreement to use. And I've looked into such an agreement to see what they do, and apparently they reserve the right to look at your screen's displayed contents. What. The. F-
I would really like to use this device as it is an upgrade over my current phone, but man, I'm not using it with the default software. For this reason I came here to ask about which custom ROMs are good for my purposes. I would like something that has few invasive features and other spyware, and is also relatively open for customization and such as I like to be in control of the hardware I own.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I have yet to find a device specific ROM for this phone. Apparently they're hard to develop because the chip manufacturer (Mediatek) doesn't release their source code? You could try a GSI but that's beyond my skillset.
To make me feel a bit better about my privacy I've used Debloater to uninstall the bloat that I don't want on the phone at all. I then use AFWall+ to block the apps that I want to use but don't trust from accessing the internet.
Note that this requires rooting your phone, but that's straightforward these days.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I'm new to the community. Could you please explain me what a GSI is?
Those things sound like a good idea for the time being. I'll look into them when I have more time. As for rooting, I'm sure there's countless of guides out there. If you know a good one I'd appreciate it, but I'm sure that out of everything, this is the one thing I'll easily manage myself.
Though while this is a good temporary solution, I still feel uneasy about it as it's not necessarily specific apps, but the OS itself that does the spying, so I think I'll wait and see if someone else replies with more suggestions. Perhaps someone in this forum is some kind of custom ROM genius. Despite that, I really appreciate your reply and not getting judged for being new. Have a nice day/evening/morning (depending on your time zone).
A GSI is a Generic System Image - basically it's a ROM that isn't tailored to a specific device, but will broadly work on any device. However this means that it's likely to be a little bit buggy on most devices. I don't know much about GSIs, but I'm sure there are threads on here.
I believe that the only Android 11 GSI that is still maintained is the Google GSI. You'd want the aosp_arm64_ab build for this device I think. I have no idea how well this would work, I don't even know how you'd flash it!
This is my guide for rooting this phone, it's pretty straightforward I think, once you've got the bootloader unlocked.
Root POCO M4 Pro 4G (fleur) using Magisk
Rooting the POCO M4 Pro 4G (fleur) turned out to be quite straightforward. Note, I have a 2201117PG (EEA), you may have a different experience, it's not my fault if you brick your phone etc. Backup before you start as this will wipe your phone...
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Well, if - as it seems - the device support GSI builds, you can go with \e\ (aka deGoogled-Lineage):
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No custom rom due to mediatek chipset , should have bought snapdragon device
Aj_$tyle$ said:
No custom rom due to mediatek chipset , should have bought snapdragon device
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BTW Generic System Images works on *any* treble-compatible (= Android 8+) SoC...
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BTW Generic System Images works on *any* treble-compatible (= Android 8+) SoC...
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GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
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GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
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What bug?
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GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
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Please report @ \e\ community then:
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Find details about the work done and progress made on Generic System Image (GSI) for /e/ in this section.
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Gliese 832 c said:
Hi everyone,
let me preface this with saying that I have searched for similar threads to avoid redundant threads, and I didn't find anything similar to this. I apologize in case I somehow missed it and am accidentally making a duplicate thread. That said, let's continue.
I recently got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S. I really love the hardware - it's pretty good for its price; the battery capacity is high, I like the 90Hz refresh rate and the AMOLED screen, decent storage capacity, and the 33W fast charging is really cool too.
The software, however, is another story. Firstly, there is a lot of bloatware. Various stores, games, etc. that I never asked for. And even worse, secondly, on every corner there is a privacy violation. Every time I clicked on a different app, I needed to accept a different user agreement, privacy policy, or something similar. The camera app literally requires an internet connection and yet another ToS agreement to use. And I've looked into such an agreement to see what they do, and apparently they reserve the right to look at your screen's displayed contents. What. The. F-
I would really like to use this device as it is an upgrade over my current phone, but man, I'm not using it with the default software. For this reason I came here to ask about which custom ROMs are good for my purposes. I would like something that has few invasive features and other spyware, and is also relatively open for customization and such as I like to be in control of the hardware I own.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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The most privacy friendly rom is GrapheneOS but it only supports Pixel devices sadly.
So I really don't know what's going on and what's happening behind the stage.
Obviously alonsoj636 decided to discontinue and abandon his greatly admired LineageOS builds from the past months.
I haven't found any notes or statements as to why he finally has decided to do so and I was not able to reach him on xda because he blocked PMs. If you read this, maybe you want to be so kind and give us some hints what's happened!
Anyway...
we, as the RM10 LineageOS community, have to face reality and that means: currently there is no LineageOS rom build and maintained by anybody. That either means sticking with old versions, changing ROMs/GSI or switching the phone completely.
While alonsoj636's versions are still working very well, they eventually become outdated sometime.
This thread should be used to coordinate discussions about future LineageOS development (if there is enough interest and people).
You have 3 options.
Wait for another builder to pick it up
Build it yourself
Run Lineage GSI from AndyYan (guide here)
One more thing. Building a ROM for a device is never considered a development. What you're referring to, is maintenance. Lineage's development will never stop.
Alright, so the cat is out of the bag on this one:
While I'm really happy that Alonso kept maintaining the ROM for a while, the reality is that he wasn't interested to go official anytime soon and kept being vague about it.
As for me, I'm building up the courage to do MPK99 recommendation and go with GSI. Apparently GSI works like old ROMs, and it doesn't nuke TWRP, so that seems nice.
Try GSI. It's perfect.
MPK99 said:
You have 3 options.
Wait for another builder to pick it up
Build it yourself
Run Lineage GSI from AndyYan (guide here)
One more thing. Building a ROM for a device is never considered a development. What you're referring to, is maintenance. Lineage's development will never stop.
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I'm pretty aware of that, however all new ROMs are tagged as development on this xda forum so I used this wording.
I think all 3 mentioned options are valid.
I could build it myself, however the time is the problem. Finding someone else building lineage in the future seems to be difficult. The past showed there aren't as many people interested and even less have the time and skill to build it.
GSI sounds like a wonder bag to me. while it's great to always have the latest updates, it might lack of the features LineageOS had for years. (i think of things like os-level online permission per app (wifi/cell), permission center, etc.). you can workaround that with 3rd party tools maybe, but it's cumbersome again.
Also GSi still sounds like a bit of an unpolished OS for this specific phone, with some kind of bugs and lack of features (compared to LOS). it's everybodys own decision to put priority on either that or on latest updates, though.
I might as well give it a try sometime, but I'll need enough spare time for experiments, so it won't happen soon.
my hopes are low, but maybe someone will step up and also build new LOS roms in the future.
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however all new ROMs are tagged as development on this xda forum
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They're all namesake
Zirila said:
it might lack of the features LineageOS had for years
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Lineage is lineage whether it's a gsi or a cusrom
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still sounds like a bit of an unpolished OS
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Those are false claims. You need to use it before committing on it.
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I'll need enough spare time for experiments, so it won't happen soon
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There's nothing to experiment, as user's experiments are logged on my thread. You can follow them. I'm myself a gsi user for an year long btw. As for the time, it'll take not more than 10 minutes. And I've laid out post configuration & fixes on the thread which'll be another 5 minutes.
well what I meaned with unpolished is what I've red in your thread about bugs like -don't touch screen while booting- etc. I haven't installed it so I solely say that by reading these posts.
and experimenting is synonymous with taking time to clean flash and reinstall everything again while learning and fixing problems with new OS/roms/GSIs.
I'll have a look sometime and I'm grateful there is progress.
Atleast I was transparent about the bugs on it.
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bugs like -don't touch screen while booting
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Not touching the screen 'while booting' is an easy fix & you won't often reboot your device while work in the first place.
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learning and fixing problems with new OS/roms/GSIs
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Just the procedure would be new. Rest of it would be your same old preferred AOSP derivative (lineage).
you did well. nothing to complain.
the more I dip into the topic the more I think it might be worth a try. don't count the time till I can focus on it, it'll take a while. but it sounds more and more promissing and the overall experience might as well get even better with time.
regardless of the GSI option, let's still have this thread and discussion opened for the case of some future LineageOS-CustomROM progress.
I'm very sorry for my abrupt decision to kill Lineage.
some personal and family problems made me think that I couldn't continue with this (nothing too big, don't worry... typical family fights)
after some messages I decided to get back to the action.
I will upload a new build with improvements once I unlock my bootloader (not very soon) as my RN10 is my only source of internet and I can't use the Mi Unlock Tool.
Thread will remain locked until the new build is done.
Thank you for your understanding and sorry for my bad steps ....
Regards
Thanks for the informational update
no worry, we are all human. as software engineer and project maintainer in troubled times it's often better to just keep calm, step back for a while, let the projects delay or freeze, that won't really hurt anyone. and then check back later to make a judgement if the project(s) really have to end.
It wasn't that bad for us either, in the meanwhile some of us learned a bit more of the GSI option which might also be a viable way to run LOS in the future. But everything has up- and downsides.
I'm glad we get to see a few more updates for the LOS custom rom.
lineage is alive again
new update is up ... waiting for shadowstep to open the thread again
Changelog
* Switch to SkiaGL Threaded
* Optimize package manager dexopt properties
* Kernel upstreamed to v4.14.295
* Kernel built with Clang 15.0.2
* Enable config_avoidGfxAccel
* wifi: Disable TDLS offchannel
* Disable few debug services
* Don't enable iostats
these are only for LineageOS 19.1
No changes for 18.1
Lineage OS for Mojito - Browse /Lineage at SourceForge.net
LineageOS for Redmi Note 10 (mojito/sunny)
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