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You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Redmi 4X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Redmi 4X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Release kernel source so we can update here status about development
Without Source Code, it's almost Impossible to Make Stable Custom ROMS, And Thus Santoni is getting a Delay in every aspect.
I am new to Xiaomi community. But the thing is I love exploring new tech stuff. I find this community in xda very helpful for the likes of me. I love exploring android stuff, like flashing custom roms, kernels, and stuff. It is also a challenge to me because I am new to MIUI environment. Wish me luck. Happy flashing.
Official source code is released now, coming from a Galaxy S3 and a HTC 10 is a bit disappointing seeing the development scene, Galaxy S3 had a kernel being maintained 5 years (Boeffla Kernel) yet I've seen too many developers ending their project very fast here, yet again the Galaxy S3 community is (or was) way bigger.. I'd love to use a plain and stable AOSP ROM that's maintained often but unfortunately I don't see that on Redmi 4X, so I'm just using a tweaked MIUI and Gabriel kernel which subjectively for me is the best; responsive developer, most customizeable (it has its own Stweaks!), and overall still maintained although slow recently
(No paid shill)
I am looking forward to trying some of the Lineage OS cooked ROMs. The MIUI Stock is kind of sluggish.
I've tried several AOSP based ROMs for about 6 months on this device and I can give my two cents about the development scene.
Mind that, of course, it's all volunteer work and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just telling my experience as an end user.
1) Lately, most Santoni developers migrated their ROMs to Treble only. This means a couple of things.
- Instead of continuing to use official TWRP and plain Magisk, you'll now have to use an unofficial recovery (because TWRP official doesn't support treble for our device) and a modded version of Magisk.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather put something signed by a recognized developer on my phone, such as the people from TWRP and the Magisk dev, than a random "modded" ZIP from the web. Not only for security, but because it is less prone to bugs. Agree with me?
Yet, the former is now the installation process for most Santoni ROMs.
- If you were lucky enough to use one of those ROMs before the Treble migration, you now have to nuke everything on your phone just to update your system to the Treble version. Fun, right?
You found THE ROM for your phone, and now you're nuking everything again.
- Despite the above mess, I can't say any advantage of using Treble on this device, besides being able to flash GSIs. But flashing GSI means you didn't bother with the original ROM anyway. So why are most ROMs Treble only? It seems just a trendy thing with more inconveniences than benefits for our device.
- Also, some people report the treble ROMs are more buggy. Lose-lose situation?
2) Right now we have many ROMs for Santoni. But when you go choose, you see that many are abandoned and most of the rest are Treble, with the "hacky" installation method.
3) On that mess, you may still find a ROM that suits you and your Santoni. You'll settle, adapt to its bugs or even find some workarounds. Great, right? But after a couple of months the developer can (and most will) completely abandon it, leaving you having to find another ROM to keep updated.
Or he won't abandon it, but he'll decide to switch to Treble only. Oh boy.
So there you go, nuke your whole phone again and start from zero.
Both situations happened even to ROMs with official status.
4) Many ROMs updates will come with the suggestion of "clean flashing". Now, I know this isn't strictly necessary, but in some situations dirty flashing can really cause bugs.
So, good luck reinstalling everything just to update your system. Even with some tool such as TitaniumBackup, it's a tedious process. Even more when you're expected to do it every few weeks.
5) Many ROMs have an erratic update schedule. On Monday the dev ships an update, and you flash it. But on Tuesday he sees he screwed everything because of not testing properly before shipping, and there you are, having to flash a new update. (I hope you didn't do a clean flash yesterday!)
Even when the updates aren't so close to each other, most ROMs have an almost random release schedule.
6) Now this I think is not exclusive to this device, but most ROMs won't notify you when there is an update. You'll have to keep an eye on a Telegram channel or here in the forum, as if you didn't have a life.
Even when they notify you, the update process is manual.
7) There are some bugs I always find on most Santoni Oreo ROMs and after half a year they are still there.
For example, I found video recording to be terrible in every custom ROM I've tried (I've tried most). Bad auto-focus, bad audio, etc. It doesn't matter which camera app you use. Yet it is still there.
Also, voice recording can be extremely quiet on some ROMs (luckly I've found a way to fix it).
Not to mention the battery drain, present everywhere (for which I only found a workaround - not a solution).
So the impression is that the effort is going to the trendy things (Treble) instead of fixing the existing bugs. The months pass and we have the same bugs, or even new ones.
8) Feedback about bug reporting can be non-existent or dismissive.
You report the problem and some developers won't bother. Others will say the problem doesn't even exist.
In a nutshell, there are many AOSP based ROMs for Santoni, but the development isn't as reliable as it could be. The general feeling is that it's too erratic and amateurish. Old bugs are not solved; new ones are introduced; the installation process is made worse for no apparent reason; you are forced to lose many hours reconfiguring your device just to keep it up to date. Also, I have seen no intention to mimic/pre-load some features we have on MIUI.
However, despite all the negatives points I offered, I can't compare the dev scene to other devices. Does Santoni has a better dev scene than some other phones? Probably.
For me, right now, I don't find those ROMs to be worth it. Life is short, and I'm back to MIUI. I'm using Xiaomi.eu, and I'm very pleased in comparison.
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Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included.
Giving major features example: about battery backup, most/all custom ROMs has cutoff voltage(poweroff at set mV, aprox.) set to 3200mV, but in MIUI it's set to 3400mV. This makes huge differences in battery backup and health,(though it's changeable) and one of the reasons why custom ROMs are known to have much better battery life. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. There were few errors running all the time in logs, while I tested. ROMs using effects, total stability, and months testing whole other things I can't explain easily here, I found none of the ROMs fully configured to keep pace with MIUI. Stable doesn't mean optimized. What daily users need, they are happy, need not to find out. What power users need, they can go through hard testing and debugging. Our custom ROMs are still in halfway to have real stability and other effects, comparison to stock MIUI. Though they have much newer and upgraded features, they lacks as well.
Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
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Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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Good for you.
Pretty good support and all considering it's pretty unpopular phone
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I notice quite a lot of rom threads are being closed...
only a few are being updates while lots were lasted update near the beginning of the month...
Lol.. There are too many roms already and almost all of them are very stable. So why do we need nightly/weekly updates if we have something like pure nexus or chroma running solid? Custom roms will live forever especially for nexus devices.
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Another one was added today. I'm patiently waiting to see if pure nexus appears with cmte. Its in the works.I hear
No end in sight! This is XDA ftw!
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/42v96a/cataclysm_threads_closed_by_mods/
The community legit doesn't deserve for him to continue.
His threads would literally make me sick the way ppl treated him. The way they DEMANDED alterations as opposed to asking. The way they asked over and over, despite his firm NO.
I'm gonna miss the hell out of his ROMs. The best. If some major changes happen, maybe Ill move to Pure Nexus, but for now... and a long while... I think the latest Cata mod will be on my phone.
This community truly sucks, sometimes
This has definitely been true for non-Nexus phones. I was big into LG phones, I had the G2, G3, and G4 (all on Verizon). The G2 had tons of development, both stock and AOSP ROMs, and the G3 was similar but noticeably less. The G4 has been non-existent. I remember the days when virtually all phones were rooted and unlocked by devs, with lots of custom ROMs, but this seems to be going away very quickly. Now it's likely if you buy a non-Nexus device, it won't get root at all, let alone custom ROMs.
Looking at the 6P development, I see what you're talking about. Lots of ROMs that started when the phone came out have ceased getting updates, and you only have a handful of solid ROMs to choose from.
I wouldn't be surprised if custom roms are a dying breed. IMHO part of it is that Android is slowly moving towards getting the basic feature set and UI tweaks that people want, and more manufacturers are trimming down their bloated UI's (some exceptions obv, unnamed). But also --- this may sound cynical, but just from my own observation: Many of these enthusiast-worked/powered/funded projects are far too often met with self-entitled users (in the very literal sense of the word) who think their use of the rom/software/art/w/e entitles them to complain endlessly about every little thing and every minute lack of an update (or desired/demanded feature) for what is usually a free or donationware product. Not to mention the people who are too careless/hasty to follow instructions and end up bricking their devices, only to blame the devs and spew a bunch of vitriol. I don't blame anyone who quits at all.
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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That's one breathe taking letter! Wish him the best and this Developer will be missed by XDA...
I love custom ROMs!!! I remember when I unlocked my first smart phone the first evo and I found the perfect stable ROM for it...now every time I get a new phone I find myself searching for a ROM I think it makes whatever handset you're using perfect. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to develop
the past roms I used, have not closed down.. Cataclysm was the second rom I used and liked...
I try not to use any roms that are CM based.. lol.. not sure why... I like the AOSP based roms better...
XDA has been going downhill for years now. Seen some amazing devs and funny members just up and leave over the years for this very reason.
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Every ROM will meet its end some time... Beanstalk disappeared. Avatar halted. AOKP is no longer active. ParanoidAndroid and PACman had gone big in form but small in functionality and usefulness. Even CM, with Google incorporating more and more changes into each new Android version and limiting features these ROMs can touch, might die out someday.
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Yeah some people here do not understand devs do this in there free time, for fun theycowe you nothing and you are very privileged to be getting such incredible free software. This upsets a lot if devs and makes them leave the community.
I stopped publishing my own approach of a ROM after I got rid of my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and moved on to Nexus devices. I'm happy with a customised Stock based ROM which suits me well. I'm not sure if anybody else would be interested in it since the Nexus forums offer a great number of custom ROMs, some of which are filled with extra stuff. I can somehow understand the guys who stop publishing their work. I never asked for donations, in fact I don't have a PayPal account linked to my profile Maintaining a ROM is a huge effort, especially if you're on your own and not part of a team.
ROMs are no longer needed plain and simple. Back in the hay days of ROMs, Galaxy S2 and 3, HTC EVO, ROMs were a necessity considering how badly optimized phones were back then.. running great software with horrible specs. Developers made the phone a lot better... I still remember the days of running Viper ROM on my samsung epic on the Sprint network.. those were the days.
Fast forward today I'm going on two years without flashing a ROM and reality is I see no need for it.
I pose a question to the great Nexus community, what's the purpose of flashing ROMs when the device runs perfect out the box?
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Root is a must for me since it allows you to get rid of some unwanted Google Apps (eg Google+, Google Play Games etc), use a Adblocker and special Apps like eg Titanium Backup or LMT
Custom roms, with the exception of a select few, have always been highly overrated imo. Most of them take software that is already created, debloat it (which we can do ourselves) and add some features that anyone can get through xposed, etc.
I used to always laugh when people would jump in a rom thread with outrageous claims like their battery life doubled, it's 100x smoother than stock, etc. Placebo effect runs high on custom roms imo.
With that being said, I've flashed just as many roms as most of you. I still see the value in some of them.
But as other people have said, it's just not as necessary anymore. As long as you can root, you can debloat, add xposed if you wanted, etc.
Doesn't seem to make as big of a difference as before.
Yeah it's not how it used to be and that probably for the better, most anything you could want can be done through Xposed and a custom kernel. While most custom roms are more stable than they were in the early days(seems to have more to do with a more stable aosp), there isn't much incentive and there are often still bugs. It's not because devs are bad at what they do, but building a stable rom requires a team of people and testing environments that people just don't have at home. Early in the days of windows mobile and Android roms were very poorly optimised out of the box, but it'd not really like that anymore.
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
Ps; If mods think it needs to be moved in another section I would be grateful. Thanks again.
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You've posted in the wrong section.
I think it's a good idea! Thought of something like that myself a few days ago. So far I've tried pure unofficial CM13 and Temaseks Custom CM13, apart from stock OOS, of course. Liked the pure one a little better due to better stability and lesser, but also less incremental updates. That's my two cents. What's your experience?
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
Ps; If mods think it needs to be moved in another section I would be grateful. Thanks again.
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I was thinking about Candy 6, maybe I'll roll it back!
@sniper20 You are right. But Please PM Mike Channon to move this thread to the Gernal Section.
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I was thinking about Candy 6, maybe I'll roll it back!
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DON'T ROLL BACK!!
This is ONLY OP's opinion.
Majority are WAITING for custom ROMs as far as I know.
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We have too many custom roms for onyx. That's a good and bad thing the same time. It's a good thing because we have many good developers who create special roms from there personal time giving us great diversity but at the same time we have many buggy or constantly updating roms in very small incremental steps. I think it would be a good idea if we users could create some kind of feature database with all the various roms and the most important, how they stack up to each other from features /steadiness, battery stamina point of view. I don't know if it's a good idea koritsi even doable) but it is a thought I had for a long time because I encountered the same problem when I wanted to choose between various roms. What do we think about that?? Thanks for taking the time and reading / contributing in the topic.
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Yes, there are many custom roms with issues, but they are basically all based on the same custom CM rom - which means that once we solve an issue there, it will also be fixed on the custom roms.
For now I think: more custom roms = more users = more feedback = less issues in the long term.
Having a feature database would be great, but people have way too different requests/expectations from roms, that would not really work.
We need to have more custom roms so that we stick to this lovely service for a long time.. It's a nature of human being too desire more rather than sticking for one thing
I agree, the claim of "too many roms" might be exaggerated. The underlying notion of a database listing all the ROMs at our disposal with their objective feature sets plus maybe things like current versions, links, bugs and quirks and benchmark scores plus personal experience with them concerning day-to-day performance and battery life would be a great thing, wouldn't it? New users would get a hub with essential information to get into finding and flashing the ROM most suited for them quickly, while senior users would have the overview of new developments of their favorite ROMs. For me, that sounds great. I hope the OP did not want to imply limitations of ROMs would be the way to go. Competition makes for some nice developments.
I had the same problem choosing a ROM. features are all described in their own threads. but it's a lot to read and hard to decide which one is right for you.
maybe something like categories could be made. like: Resurrection ROM is feature heavy and only for power users, CrDroid is in the middle and CM is just basic without extra features....
someone would have to make a list like that.
Agreed.
Quality>quantity.
All the ROMs have a very minor bug, but most of them were cleared and being cleared. But now the ROM I really miss in OnePlus X is MIUI. But yes We have CM13 which is awesome in every aspect.
I myself tried porting miui to opx but stuck with mi logo and have no idea how to Clear this. I hope Our beloved OnePlus X devs are trying to make one.
Biggest issue is you have a solid Rom working for you and you feel the need to flash every update. I was that guy for a while. If your Rom is working great don't update unless it's next month's security patch or some major feature added in you must try.
as for me: choose rom with ota stable & feel free
What intrigues me the most is not the many custom roms available, but the same devs compiling/maintaining 3 or 4 roms at the same time. That ends up in not getting enough time to deal with bugs imo...i never saw such thing (the same dev having 3 or 4 roms at the same time) with any other device I had previously, only the opx. Sometimes the same dev maintains a rom for other devices(like sultans cm13 for our opx and another device that dev has for example), but not different roms. At least I never saw it happen on my previous devices
You're a power user. Can the honor 5X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the honor 5X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Hoping for more love to be given to this KIWI devices
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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I am a beta tester and I would guess another month or so. Software is pretty close. So patience, they aren't holding out. They have actually been very forthcoming and helpful to folks here at XDA.
I hope someone with knowledge about kernels would step up and create a custom kernel so that we can overclock and optimize.
Developement is below average. To compare, my HTC HD2 had excellent custom roms available, my Samsung Galaxy Note I had a fair ammount of roms available with most functionality working properly. The Honor 5X currently has no rom with all the basic hardware working (mainly the fingerprint reader). Whatever the reason is, I can say that currently you should not buy this device if you want a custom rom as your daily driver.
Check the custom roms section if you want to see the recent developements. Check out the CyanogenMod roms, since all the others are based upon that AFAIK. If there is still stuff listed as not working (hardware) then wait a little longer or go for another device if you want to have custom roms.
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
Really, the only "big thing" we'd be missing here on regards to modding would be an easy Xposed install - I say easy because many users have already got it, but afaik it's not a simple flashable .zip but system file editing as well. Not a big deal for a truly tech-savvy person like those who roam the XDA forums, though.
I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". 1 What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
2 I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
3 I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1-Now that's something I can agree with
2-The sources were released iirc, but as you said developers are not paid for this so it's a game of wait and see
3-I would suggest people give EMUI a try for a while after buying the phone. It's not like I love it, but come on; the specs aren't anything out of this world, I know that, so if you so desperately want a custom ROM that you can't wait for a day- just get another phone, don't even consider the Honor 5X, or any phone that comes with a skin for that matter. Besides, the wait makes it more worthwile imo, how can you know how much better a ROM is than EMUI if you haven't actually run EMUI to begin with? Again, just my opinion...
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not happy with honor..... and dont even know if update comes or not think like jst making fool.......
using honor 5x and 6p from last 4 months have got any update even security patch in honor while in 6p it comes every month...... wer saying that we will get update of android 6.0 in last may but its naw june and no responce.................
disappointed
Matter of opinion, I respect yours and fully agree with huawei ****ty update policy. At least they open bl and share some sources,which are, at least on qualcomm based huaweis, usable to some extent. I have different opinion on development strength, I see no problem with using crpalmers base (cm) for other ROMs as it working well w/o bugs mentioned by u. The last real things that are to be fixed are fingerprint (on the way,fixed by surdu petru ) and HDR mode on camera.
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Lol, where r good old times when LEO development started and bricks and following recoveries of thosr were daily practice
Yes, huawei update policy is...
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i was kinda afraid of development due to the fact that it is an honor device,bt now am happy that it has official cm13 and other cm based roms.
Very premium feeling phone for the price range, good features. Don't care that much for EMUI though, it's a bit iPhone-y and limited.
CM12 and CM13 ROMS are well represented here, and hope to see some Nougat/CM14 love here soon
Good support considering its huawei
A lot of ROMs hère so one for every taste.
If you are flasholic, you can get drunk with your honor5x : )
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im a flashaholic!!
I made more than 10 ROMs. I hope that's good for everybody.
So I'll just pick one at random then? Thanks for the help...
There is a thread with links to all the stock firmware releases. But downgrading has been debated if its even possible. The procedure is detailed in a couple different posts from what I've read. I doubt you will be able to run a kk ROM with the a LL bootloader and modem.
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There are still Cyanogenmod 11 (KitKat) builds in the unified development section, that's probably your best bet. As mgp53 pointed out it's difficult if not downright impossible to downgrade android versions using the official firmware, if you're already on 5.1.1
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There are still Cyanogenmod 11 (KitKat) builds in the unified development section, that's probably your best bet. As mgp53 pointed out it's difficult if not downright impossible to downgrade android versions using the official firmware, if you're already on 5.1.1
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Thanks so much! I am pouring through it now... might take a bit since I don't see a column for version number http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development#romList but I'll just sort by latest release and click on every single link manually till I see a 4.x that isn't a buggy PoS. I was originally hoping to steer clear of AOSP/CM because I heard the battery life isn't as good as TW or "superslim" style stripped-down stock fws, but at this point I will take what I can get. I've had terrible luck getting any kind of answers across multiple subforums on this site. Your post was the most useful by far. Thanks again.
Incoming rant...
It really is a shame that 1) the download links on the 600+ Infinity ROM thread are all dead, 2) SlimROM doesn't seem to exist in any meanful/useable state for the s5 even though they have tons of devices including the s3/s4, 3) Sick n Twi5ted for 4.x is a buggy PoS, 4) Liquidsmooth has major missing features such as no camera (You thought releasing a ROM on a 16megapixel flagship device with no camera function was OK enough to start asking for donations and then never got around to adding support for the camera? At least have the decency to put a list of major bugs and missing features in the OP. It is debateably fraudulent to put a donate button where the 'Major Issues' section should be and then not even have a disclaimer.
Users of this site really ought not to have to pour through 60-600 pages to find out major flaws on a ROM. In all the dozens of threads I've sifted through over the past week there was exactly ONE who was up front and honest including a section devoted to missing features/major bugs.
/end_rant
On the bright side, all this madness had led me to seriously consider developing my own ROM and that would probably be a good thing for me in general to learn anyway. Or alternatively I could create a website devoted to archiving older ROMs since there seems to be quite a few that have gone missing here. (think oldversion.com circa 2005)
Whatever I decide to contribute, there certainly is room for a lot of it here.
android6 greatly improved idle battery life, plus you can underclock the cpu if you have root
Looking for some Roms compatible with the Redmi note 5/ Redmi 5 plus
Just btw., after thoroughly testing everything there is for my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (for example, even including unofficial LineageOS on Android 10) I've been able to see that:
Everything is based on LineageOS, and since there are issues with it: everything gets carried down the line, and no way around it (meaning that seems to be the situation with 90% of ROMs, except for the serious projects - such as mostly ones made for Google Pixel devices)
Battery will only, ever, last 1/2 that of stock (and there will be heating issues). Besides of the ROMs, also had tried running a combination of all different kernels. From what I've been able to figure out (which is very little, as if you couldn't tell), it's probably the case of having no throttling management - and the SoC is simply running unclocked all of the time; also, it's the question of not properly implementing any refresh-rate management, so, again, there's no throttling and it's just at the highest (configured) all of the time and killing battery.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it and, hope it helps!
P.S.
Besides of Sunil Paul Mathew's "Package Manager", on F-Droid, there's also the Szaki "XiaomiADBFastbootTools" on GitHub that's a (very!) nice tool for de-bloating Xiaomi devices.
^^ Which is, probably, what could make more sense than going for a custom ROM. =)
EDIT: Just make sure that you're getting ADB platform-tools from source. A lot of people like to repackage them (for some reason?!) and it may be impossible to know whether it has been tampered with. Google's Android download page is at:
Code:
https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools
(And there's a Magisk module, as well, but the developer has joined Google earlier this year, and it's seemingly, unfortunately, the end of Magisk; development had been halted at version 23)
This is off-topic and I hope it's not too intrusive, just for anyone who may wonder into this thread... topjohnwu the Magisk developer, used to be with Apple - and then joined Google; used to develop Magisk, while with Apple and now he's going as far as to make this kind of a Twitter post (about the Apple watch):
Code:
https://mobile.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1446164039776673793
... Very disappointing, people have tried to defend his decision of going to Google, and I guess that it's perfectly understandable wanting a good job (but I've been 100% certain that it's the end of Magisk), anyway, meh! ;$
Screenshot:
Code:
https://ibb.co/KN4xd8F
*you know, why do that... what's the need for something like it, aanyway
conditae said:
Just btw., after thoroughly testing everything there is for my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (for example, even including unofficial LineageOS on Android 10) I've been able to see that:
Everything is based on LineageOS, and since there are issues with it: everything gets carried down the line, and no way around it (meaning that seems to be the situation with 90% of ROMs, except for the serious projects - such as mostly ones made for Google Pixel devices)
Battery will only, ever, last 1/2 that of stock (and there will be heating issues). Besides of the ROMs, also had tried running a combination of all different kernels. From what I've been able to figure out (which is very little, as if you couldn't tell), it's probably the case of having no throttling management - and the SoC is simply running unclocked all of the time; also, it's the question of not properly implementing any refresh-rate management, so, again, there's no throttling and it's just at the highest (configured) all of the time and killing battery.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it and, hope it helps!
P.S.
Besides of Sunil Paul Mathew's "Package Manager", on F-Droid, there's also the Szaki "XiaomiADBFastbootTools" on GitHub that's a (very!) nice tool for de-bloating Xiaomi devices.
^^ Which is, probably, what could make more sense than going for a custom ROM. =)
EDIT: Just make sure that you're getting ADB platform-tools from source. A lot of people like to repackage them (for some reason?!) and it may be impossible to know whether it has been tampered with. Google's Android download page is at:
Code:
https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools
(And there's a Magisk module, as well, but the developer has joined Google earlier this year, and it's seemingly, unfortunately, the end of Magisk; development had been halted at version 23)
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I really appreciate your comment though I am currently only looking for recommendations on which Roms I can flash on my redmi note 5, and if possible overclock it
Btw, I have already flashed an MIUI 12.5(Android 11) rom on my phone which is much smoother compared to the stock MIUI 11(Android 8.1) though I fell a lack of software skin changes that's why I am looking for recommendations on custom roms.
Thank you.