This may sound stupid, but to me its a really simple request/question:
Is there ANY way to calibrate how the pen functions for this tablet?
I can see the obvious possibilities for it, but it just seems so tacked on last minute. I mean it really only can be used with 3 total apps (Notes, PDF, and something else?), and every time I go to write its makes me want to scream and chuck the tablet at the wall.
Here's my big 3 pains and anyone who can help me out I'd be thankful to
- Can the pen be used as a regular stylus at its tip? (not the back of it)
- Can you lessen the detection range of the tip to the screen? Im not even touching and its already marking the screen
and the biggest....
- Can the keyboard be disabled WHILE using the pen? So many times I go to write and the keyboard keeps popping up in Evernote and cancels whatever I'm doing...
Sorry if this turned into a rant, its just frustration because I can see this becoming a less expensive option for digital artists and the like if only HTC wouldn't drag their feet on it.
Thanks~
There are no ways to calibrate the pen. You must understand that:
1. The separation between capasitive layer with touch function and resistive layer with pen function is the best way to make perfect palm rejection while scribbling! There are many kind of tablet which still cannot fully implement palm rejection and it is really really big problem.
2. You can scribe/write on polaris document which are free from keyboard trouble!
3. Touch and pen activity should be combine easily.
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I have found the following are better than the built-in app when used with the HTC Magic pen and Honeycomb update:
Antipaper
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5zdWJob2cuYW50aXBhcGVyLm5vdGVzIl0.
Writepad Stylus
https://market.android.com/details?...esult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53cml0ZXBhZCJd
Quill
https://market.android.com/details?...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53cml0ZS5RdWlsbCJd
These apps don't integrate with Evernote as well the built-in Notes app. These apps require explicit export to Evernote.
Any other great notes apps out there with good hand writing support?
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These apps don't integrate with Evernote as well the built-in Notes app.
Any other great notes apps out there with good hand writing support?
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Did you mean they don't integrate with Evernote as well AS the built in note app? I'm definitely looking for a better note taking app that doesn't auto load the keyboard when my hand hits the screen before the pen.
But I can't really sacrifice Evernote integration.
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Did you mean they don't integrate with Evernote as well AS the built in note app? I'm definitely looking for a better note taking app that doesn't auto load the keyboard when my hand hits the screen before the pen.
But I can't really sacrifice Evernote integration.
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The apps I listed require explicit export to Evernote. Not an issue if you export say every week or every day.
Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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I was a bit confused by your post. Quill, for me, does complete palm rejection when the pen or pencil is selected. In fact, it refuses any input by my fingers entirely while in this mode. This is one of the reasons why I put Quill above any of the other apps.
I agree with TSGM - Quill does a good job at palm rejection, and the inking quality is nearly as good as Wacom on my HP 2740p (I NEVER thought I'd say that about N-trig). What I still want is easy conversion to PDF for storage on our server since that is out standard.
ORTOX said:
Okay, so I've tried the 3 you've suggested. I'm glad they're only $1 each, because so far I'm not satisfied with any of them...
The most promising to me seems to be Writepad stylus. But here's what confuses/frustrates me. There's an option to have the app only take input from the Thinkpad Tablet n-trig pen. This sounds awesome seeing as our stylus is by n-trig. But once I turn it on, the scribe pen is useless. With this option off, the pen works as it should but the app still registers some marks from my palm resting on the screen.
Antipaper has a sweet looking interface. However, my handwriting doesn't look as good as it does with Writepad, plus it's even worse when it comes to registering marks from my palm.
Quill is neat as well, but suffers from the same problems.
My question is this:
Are there any apps that have an option like Writepad that makes it so it will only accept marks from the pen? Let me know. Hoping to take notes at a meeting I have to attend at 7:30 and need to find a solution beforehand.
Thanks
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Palm detection is best with Quill and acceptable with Antipaper. With my Flyer, the built-in app does not have the fine precision of Quill nor Writepad Stylus. Fine detail is important to me. Also, the built-in app becomes slow after about two pages of notes.
you can get quill for free right from the dev
http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/detail?name=quill-v8.1.apk
I decided to give Quill another try thinking I must not have given it enough of a chance based on the positive comments in this thread regarding the app.
I used it for a half hour meeting. It does read hand writing very well. Turning off hand input also works well. It didn't pick up any marks from my palm or anything other than the pen.
I have a complaint though that I'm not sure can be resolved. As I got closer to the bottom of the "page", naturally my palm shifted lower on the screen. My palm began to trigger the quick menu on the bottom right to keep popping up which really got annoying. Any ideas on how to disable this while using the app?
Thanks for the Quill recommendation. The writing experience is a huge difference from the stock notes app. It would be nice if it had a palate to quickly switch between pens and color like the stock app.
I use all of them and went back to the notes app. The integration with Evernote is great. The integration with the calendar however is a big differentiator. I was in a meeting today an opened the notes app and it knew that I was in that meeting and automatically titled the notes btu the meeting name. the notes being stored on the calendar and Evernote is great add well.
Using both the pen and Swype gives me a great combination for quick text entry. I now need to figure out the right screen cover that maximizes the pen experience and I am set
Unlike in PDF editor, honeybar works great and hides the notification bar in quill without side effects.
Check this out, pretty cool, handwriting recognition and all ported over from the Lenovo Thinkpad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426975
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I really like Quill, it works really well. I just finally put my old M200 up on eBay as a result of the View and the N-Trig stylus. The only thing that I miss from OneNote is the ability to lasso a section of text/drawing(s) and move it freely to accommodate a better layout or more space. This is what made digital inking so worthwhile to me. Has anyone seen an app with this capability?
Same Enquiry Here as The OP's one but for GB ROMs ?
From another thread I posted in:
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Also of anyone is interested in other notes apps I've also been using quill (search it in the xda forum to get it free or buy it from the market to support the dev) and supernote by asus, also found in xda.
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gordonzhao said:
Check this out, pretty cool, handwriting recognition and all ported over from the Lenovo Thinkpad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426975
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Thanks.
Just installed it, awesome!
LectureNotes
LectureNotes - Just wanted to put this app out there for consideration. I am new to flyer and looking to replace the capabilities I had with my Dell Latitude XT and MS Onenote synced thru the cloud. Lecture Notes seems to have a great inking capability and good organization, but lacks the Evernote integration of the native notes app. Just need to ask, has anyone learned a way to disable the onscreen keyboard in the notes app. If not for that, it could be my potential replacement.
None of the links to download work for me. Takes me to file sharing page but file won't download.
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Thanks for the info on lecture notes. I used all the note programs and think this is probably the best
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Is there a way to do handwriting on the 10.1? I picked one up for our QC department and it'd be very hand if they could handwrite notes on their documents.
EDIT: Will be using Polaris office unless there is something better.
yes you can, there's a whole thread about pens on the accesorie section, with an app you can add to adjust the sensitivity.
Excellent, thanks for the heads up.
I highly recommend FreeNote. It is one of the few apps I have found that works the best for me.
Even though I think the tab is the best tablet on the market right now, the one thing its not very good at is handwriting. Even with the sensitivity app it's not as good as the transformer or the (sorry) ipad. It's a hardware problem; the handwriting lags behind the stylus, and it doesn't have palm recognition (so if you touch anything to the screen, it registers as a touch). If this was your purpose in getting the GT10.1 (and this is the only reason I'd say this); I'd suggest returning it for the transformer (original, I don't know anything about the prime).
Hey guys,
So I have been reeeaaallly looking forward to use my Transformer Prime as a note taking device. I tried a $5 stylus, it had a very fat tip and clearly not even remotely ideal for taking notes.
I want the end experience to be as close to taking notes on a piece of paper as possible, so that I can avoid using paper and pen.
In this regard, please answer me the following questions:
1) What stylus do you use?
2) What app do you use to write handwritten notes?
3) Does it really feel just as natural to write with that stylus and app combo as a real life paper and pen/pencil?
Thanks for the help!
1) I have a DAGi P507 pen. It has a clear plate and the feel of the pen it self is really good. It came with extra tip, clear stickers to protect the plate and even an extra stylus for my phone.
2) I have tried almost every note taking app there is on the market, but haven't really found any that I really like. Best so far have been FreeNote, Antipaper Notes and Genial writing.
3) The experience is no where near natural. Recognition is way too slow and it won't pick up any small movement. I have heard alot about app called TouchScreen Tune, which they say should improve handwriting and drawing, but I haven't tested it myself yet, because I can't root my device at the moment.
I have no idea whether it is hardware or software related but the ipad has a really nice feel to it when handwriting with notability. I think android just needs to catch up in software optimization and we'll get there someday. For now just make do with what you have. I have found that ezpdf with a blank white pdf is good for note taking. I am using the adonit jot stylus with thermal grease in tip. Good luck.
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1) I have a DAGi P507 pen. It has a clear plate and the feel of the pen it self is really good. It came with extra tip, clear stickers to protect the plate and even an extra stylus for my phone.
2) I have tried almost every note taking app there is on the market, but haven't really found any that I really like. Best so far have been FreeNote, Antipaper Notes and Genial writing.
3) The experience is no where near natural. Recognition is way too slow and it won't pick up any small movement. I have heard alot about app called TouchScreen Tune, which they say should improve handwriting and drawing, but I haven't tested it myself yet, because I can't root my device at the moment.
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Regarding the sensitivity of the Prime:
I have also heard of TouchScreen Tune, and I've seen it in action on the Samsung Galaxy Tablet. It seemed to work great on that tablet, so I imagine a similar experience can be expected on the ATP.
Ultimately, it increased sensitivity so it can pick up all those small movements. So I recommend you give it a shot if you can't seem to get a good feel for the default values (of screen sensitivity).
Hey everyone, I've had this idea of trying to merge the use of my transformer prime with my business. I go out to several homes a day to take measurements for various things, as well as sketch rough drawings. Does anyone here use their tablet for something similar?
The reason I ask is because I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the stylus that comes with that has a nice fine tip that I can create notes and drawings in Evernote pretty well with.. but that stylus won't work on the transformer. So I ordered the Wacom Bamboo stylus with the rubber end. But when I write numbers like "39 3/4" or something -- it looks like a 5 year old wrote it. Same goes for the simple drawings and the dimensions.
Are there any options available that can make the tablet useful for this type of work?
Thanks everyone,
An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
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An excellent app for Android for stylus-based notes and sketches is LectureNotes. It has a ton of features, and the developer keeps improving the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes
Quill is also a pretty good writing/sketching app, but not as many features as LectureNotes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.write.Quill
For styluses that have finer control, you may want to consider some of the following stylus makers:
iFaraday: has a dielectric micro-mesh surface, which is stiffer than than rubber-tip stylus. I have the Artist version, and it's great for sketching.
Adonit: the Jot Pro fine-point stylus, has a transparent disc so you can better see the point of contact. Good for handwriting.
DAGi: similar in style to the Adonit, in a variety of sizes.
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Thank you for the recommendations! I did search quite a bit when it came to which stylus to order and I did see the Jot Pro. I was going to order it but I saw a few YouTube videos of people using it and it wasn't working all that great.
Basically my sketches would be very limited to some rather basic line drawings.. it's not like I'm sketching faces or anything elaborate. So I'd much rather have something more geared to neater handwriting.
As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
Thanks again!
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As far as the apps go, do they themselves have anything to do with the responsiveness of the device? I know the answer is probably no, but I was wondering if their software tends to "correct" on the fly making for neater lines or whatever.. I'm not sure if that question is completely clear or not.
The reason I ask is because I like Evernote's interface and I like that you can synchronize accounts with certain notebooks, etc.
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LectureNotes and Quill do not "improve" the quality of the writing, however they both have a zoom mode where you can write larger (and more legibly) and then this is unzoomed in the captured writing. LectureNotes has some fine-tuning options to improve the screen responsiveness to the stylus, and the apps have a palm detection feature so there is an area on the screen you can rest your hand and not have that detected by the screen.
You may also want to check out the Skitch app, which is from Evernote. It does improve or smooth out writing, and integrates very well with Evernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evernote.skitch
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As far as a technical question goes -- do you know why my galaxy note's stylus will not work with the prime? I read that they are both capacitive touch screens.. but I guess there is more to it than just that.
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The Galaxy Note devices have both a capacitive touch screen and an active digitizer screen that works with the special S-pen stylus. The S-pen stylus does not work on capacitive touch screens that come with most tablets (like the Prime) or smartphones. For capacitive touch screens you will need a standard capacitive stylus.