If you like windows you should try the latest Ghostspectre Windows OS it comes in Compact with or without defender and bloat free for normal everyday use and Superlite version which is debloated and bare bones for gamers. Check it out, google is you friend.
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If you like windows you should try the latest Ghostspectre Windows OS it comes in Compact with or without defender and bloat free for normal everyday use and Superlite version which is debloated and bare bones for gamers. Check it out, google is you friend.
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Which version, 10 or 11?
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Which version, 10 or 11?
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Both 10 and 11 pro versions
At your own risk since you don't have useful protections beside the AV part that's not included if you choose the one without Windows Defender.
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If you like windows you should try the latest Ghostspectre Windows OS it comes in Compact with or without defender and bloat free for normal everyday use and Superlite version which is debloated and bare bones for gamers. Check it out, google is you friend.
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Thank you for sharing this. I am trying now to see if his image will post in a VM. The only way I can get Win 11 to post is with the Enterprise Edition VMWARE image microsoft shared and it's HUGE. Ugh.
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At your own risk since you don't have useful protections beside the AV part that's not included if you choose the one without Windows Defender.
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Why choose Windows Defender when one can install their own 3rd party AV?
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Why choose Windows Defender when one can install their own 3rd party AV?
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Third party AV doesn't have some features WD has.
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Third party AV doesn't have some features WD has.
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Not to beat around the bush or ruffle any feathers, but wouldn't that be classified as an opinion more than a statement considering that most higher rated 3rd parties give around 5% to 15%+ more virus detection capability than Windows Defender?
For anyone curious, it works like a charm! I'm going to include this in my hypervisor lesson and share my virtual disk with win 11 setup, android installed, rooted, and kali linux! If you don't want to wait, you can dl vbox and run the iso on there. I wouldn't dl it direct to system. Like don't do that haha
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Not to beat around the bush or ruffle any feathers, but wouldn't that be classified as an opinion more than a statement considering that most higher rated 3rd parties give around 5% to 15%+ more virus detection capability than Windows Defender?
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Sorry I meant that excluding the AV part, WD offers some good features that's not available on third party AV suite.
Also, since they are all partner of Virus Total I'm pretty sure they all pay VT to share hashes, samples and results of sane or infected files anyway.
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They have both versions and others check them out on telegram or :
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Most if not even all AV-softwares make use of same globally accessible database of virus-signatures. When a new type of malware is discovered, cybersecurity experts will add its footprint to this database. So it's irrelevant what AV-software you use, IMO.
Everybody can inspect the database used by Windows Defender via Powershell: One simply enters
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Get-MpThreatCatalog
Does this bring many advantages for those who play? or doesn't it justify installing this on an average computer?
IMHO it's only useful if run in emulators like VirtualBox or VMWare.
Some user reports / opinions about Ghost Spectre here:
https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/179355-windows-10-lite-ghost-spectre.html
You don't install this version of windows 11 or any version directly to your PC BC A Lot of Programs we have installed in Win 10 aren't fully compatible, so Win 11 bugs the hell out. It's A lot of fun to see the bugs, but absolutely unproductive if you need a work environment too.. haha.
--I've figured out all the bugs with the virtual machines and am working on a guide. It's a cpu and feature issue, as per norm if any of you are well versed in virtual machines.......
I'm using Win 11 SE Ghost Specter.
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did anyone tried to run and develop ROMs for VMWARE under linux and try to install VMWARE on our x10 mini pro??
if this is possible then i believe we can run multiple versions of ROMs and kernels without even lose any piece of data and i believe we can also keep the stock rom too. therefore we can always use our phones even if the rom crashed at anytime!
i'll try to check the requirement for vmware installation on mobile ...
DUDE! You HAVE to be kidding me. VMWare is a virutalisation platform, it simulates any hardware for software to run on. What we need is, a way to change the /system to a alternate one to allow for dual booting. I believe its avalible in some recoveries.. i think. And AFAIK, no virtualisation platform will run on our tiny ammount of RAM and sluggish processor.
Dude! i'm not kidding i believe we can use VMWARE on our hardware but the limitation will be to run each OS at a time.
and remember that Android is based on Linux and VMWARE could be installed on Linux also i believe that with slight modification we can run only shell linux with vmware installed which will need only like 64MB RAM and pentium 2 300Mhz minimum to make it all work!
so virtualisation is possible on our phone and i visited the VMWARE site and guess what they have mobile virtualization solution for mobiles and tablets!
i believe we can reach a level of customization never done before!
EDIT: and by the way take a look at the following LG VMWARE virtualisation you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47kzIvFfV_E
this is possible!
I dont get the point, why not just combine the work & personal life in one rom? This just seems like a waste of space, plus the phone in the video is much more powerfull.
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@naw3x i know it's much more powerful my idea won't need that power!
we can use our OS father Linux! if we use the minimal version only kernel and shell we can install VMWare (at least the player) and install images of whatever OS we want to use and it would be extremely easy to back up and customize!
linux kernel plus shell won't take that much resources as base layer! it will only take the what the phone stock kernel of RAM may 10 MB more!
for the use of virtualisation like in the video it's not a waste of space for a company but for us we can say this! for a company that need privacy toward it's data it can backup the vm Rom in a minute and remove it totally if the employee wants to leave without affecting his personal phone!
Maybe it could work, whilst it may be able to utilise the hardware built into the phone there would be significant performance in emulating an alien processor and the associated custom chips (if for instance you wanted to emulate a different phone).
If you want to run a second virtual x10 mini pro (not concurrent - obviosuly) then it probably wouldnt be anymore significant than rerouting the system/ folder.
Running an OS from flash would be more energy/resource consuming than the internal memory anyway.
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Useless idea, because virtualisation always needs quiet a lot of cpu-power. There is the possibility to run a dual boot system, but afair this project has been stopped. Also i dont get the point in running multiple roms on your device, since the data-partition could only be used by froyo OR gingerbread OR eclair and since basically any rom has the same progress in development, because obviously the cookers use the work from other cookers, which is awesome because it is some kind of collaboration, it is senseless to use multiple roms at once.
Also, if you want the futures of linux, even without gui, you need the right kernel, otherwise your device would not know how to handle your command.
So whats the point in your idea?
Well the point is to try to run and test vm without even attempt to flash which will help in testing the currently in development roms and kernels! And even you can use it for a lot more things! And about the linux kernel you already have it it's in your android os all the time!
Anyway if no one wants to share ideas and discuss this subject, I thank you all for your answers it was an attempt to do something useful
Hey. Don't give up, buddy! Anything is possible!
good idea
Dont know why people are down on the idea,i think it would be great, basically 2 phones in 1,i do use 2 phones atm, good look with it
Yeah.. it is nice... in theory. But its practically useless. We are already strapped for ram, and a VM implies running another OS inside the current one. Which is definitely not practical. At any rate, a reboot is still needed. You could just redirect the system and data folders to their own image on the sdcard. Cos we sure dont have the space to store them in internal memory.
Honestly I was thinking of a light way to install vmware ( or any virtualization tool and remember dalvik itself is a virtualization engine! ) which may lead supposed to run it like hyper v terminal in hyper v servers if you know it! For now we can think of the redirection of system and data to the external storage as a way to run 2 os on one machine but if we reach a way to run a virtualization platform I believe it should be great!
Well in teory it should work! smartphones are a bit like pc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079898
Up is a case that worked but if you see this close you see that is not that good.
I think that you are missing some of the principal "rules" of vmware. you have always to be using the host and the virtual machine on top of it. and the host will be always working and consuming resources. in that case it won't be mutch left for the virtual machine! i believe that it would be better (Like someone said before) for you to take a look at the multiboot option!
CWM 3.x.x.x R5 has this option available! make a litttle search, i believe that it will be mutch better for you!
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Well in teory it should work! smartphones are a bit like pc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079898
Up is a case that worked but if you see this close you see that is not that good.
I think that you are missing some of the principal "rules" of vmware. you have always to be using the host and the virtual machine on top of it. and the host will be always working and consuming resources. in that case it won't be mutch left for the virtual machine! i believe that it would be better (Like someone said before) for you to take a look at the multiboot option!
CWM 3.x.x.x R5 has this option available! make a litttle search, i believe that it will be mutch better for you!
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well i know the principals of vmware what i'm saying we have already the kernel running u need only a shell application to install vmware and i believe kernel plus shell won't take more than 50 MB at max and 200MB will be left for vmware.
well it's an attempt man to see how much our device could endure tweaking
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well i know the principals of vmware what i'm saying we have already the kernel running u need only a shell application to install vmware and i believe kernel plus shell won't take more than 50 MB at max and 200MB will be left for vmware.
well it's an attempt man to see how much our device could endure tweaking
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But then you would neet to have a virtual machine system like the one used in servers!
I see your idea and i understand the logic but it would require mutch more then our mobile specs! But anyway you had a great idea!
Final results of testing virtualization over x10 mini pro!
I tested 3 virtualization methods over one of my x10 mini pro (all running over shell and kernel without roms on the phone all on sd) which are the following QEMU of Fedora vmware player and virtual box. What I arrived to in all 3 it was tooooooooooo slow I run different OSs like symbian and windows mobile and android 2.3.7 and my biggest challenge was to run UBUNTU on our mobile!
QEMU was the best in performance but still laggish with the attempt to load the os took like half an hour on the latest symbian S60 and almost the same for Android
The worst was VMWARE symbian didn't load android took almost 45 minutes to load...
At the end I want to mark the attempt of virtualization over our x10 mini pro as failed!
Ps. I lost one of my x10 mini pro phone totally after installing UBUNTU I believe I damaged some chips while I tried to flash some changes to the kernel to make it run over VMWARE!
VMWare seems to be too heavy for this tiny hardware.
I think you should take a view at QEMU. This is minimalist, working correctly on Linux/ARM.
Personally , I'm sure that the performances will be awful whatever the emulator used.
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VMWare seems to be too heavy for this tiny hardware.
I think you should take a view at QEMU. This is minimalist, working correctly on Linux/ARM.
Personally , I'm sure that the performances will be awful whatever the emulator used.
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already tried QEMU and didn't work!
and honestly i even tried to modify QEMU to have a kind of simulation of our hardware and it failed!
Failed because our phones have outdated and rather slow hardware... should work flawless on newer phones with more powerfull hardware. So yeah, it's not a completly failure.
Well for now i'll stop working on this until I get better hardware thank you all for your advices and ideas
I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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That's a good question. Just like every other Windows release out there, if you are too poor; Piracy is just too easy. But I don't think I will resort to that. Something I have noticed is the lack of mentioning toward different versions of Windows 8. If feels as if there will be the consumer, server edition, and ARM edition(?).
I don't know.
Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Because why wait? Windows 8 works great on the Tegra 3 chip! 1GB of RAM is plenty as Windows 8 uses less memory than Windows 7. Also, I love the Transformer. I'm sure Asus will release the Prime for Windows variant, but I love Android as well.
In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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Microsoft is making a painful transition. They are working hard at porting their full Windows OS onto ARM. I believe they see that ARM architecture will be the future of low-power, high performance computing. They will certainly support Windows 8, but what they will struggle with is convincing all x86 developers supporting the Windows platform to port their applications over to ARM as well. It is not Microsoft's fault that ARM will not run x86 applications; it is a necessity and Microsoft cannot afford to wait much longer.
ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
I'm definitely interested in dual booting later.. hopefully win installation will be viable in some way.
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ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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Yes, that's a very good point. But still, it was a legitimate answer to the question posed. But you're right that we shouldn't assume that Windows 8 will be purchasable.
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Agree. Unbelievably "heavy developer effort"... add the fact that WinRT on ARM does NOT include the Win8 Desktop stack.
Consider the Microsoft developer effort to:
(1) Port Office and any(all) other applications to WinRT so it can be used on ARM - nothing Win7 nor WP7 will directly port to WinRT except maybe hello world and trivial apps. Without Office on the ARM tablet who cares.
(2) Port WinRT to the Windows Phone replacing WP7.
(3) Perform a COMPLETE UX rewrite of any required applications to Metro touch to run under WinRT on ARM.
(4) Build, support, maintain developer tools for all the above.
(5) A million other things.
Unless Microsoft has infinite resources, I do NOT think they will be competitive with Android nor Apple for years (if ever) in the mobile space. This comment usually causes Microsoft zealots much discomfort and denial.
Without Office-Touch Version on WinRT the WinRT platform will FAIL worse than WP7 is failing now. Office on Windows 7 touch is an abortion, e.g. Samsung XE700t1a with Windows 7. It is a catch-22 for Microsoft to make WinRT Office run on ARM platform because that may not generate the *required* Windows 8 Ultimate Home Premium Standard Business Suite Server license revenues.
So, today, Microsoft has not seriously accomplished anything competitive in the mobile spaces. In the future, there is infinite work to accomplish any logical road map but no road map has been announced. The Windows 8 Desktop and WinRT bits from BUILD (and after) are pre-Alpha stage.
In the meantime, Android merged tablet & phone OS to version 4.0, and Apple is also busy with hundreds of million mobile phone and tablet customers.
Waiting for Microsoft to finish something is a great suggestion, but version 1.0 is a huge risk too. Maybe waiting until version 3 of the Microsoft phone and tablet? LOL
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Yes. Windows 8 would most likely be an OEM-only OS. HOWEVER, The Eee Pad Transformer series will most likely have Windows 8 variants making this hell of a lot easier.
Not gonna like, the metro UI and thus WP7 can go die in a fire, and I mean a REALLY DEADLY one! The blocky TILE interface, with no respect for the ability to get lost in menu's/programs... really sad... I stopped helping friends/family with their WP7 devices after the second week they got them... thankfully most are on Android / Blackberry now... my hate is for the Metro UI, not necessarily the underlying CORE for Win8 and WP7 (the only hate that surpasses that which I have for the MetroUI is the iPhone OS/Software, because the iPhone 4/4S hardware is pretty premo)
However, to give you a counter balance for my above rant, I am currently running the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my desktop, as my ABSOLUTE HATE for Metro UI, it is indeed disabled, and no, that's NOT all there is to see in the Win8DP!
Besides MetroPOS, I love the rest of what they have done with Win8, AND to that effect I WILL be looking forward to DUAL booting (if possible), BUT only if some of the main programs I use see an ARM port since there will be no x86 emulation or back porting! Else the only thing that would even mildly interest me in Dual Booting is the bragging rights to say I have a desktop/laptop OS on a tablet...
So, to sum it up!:
Love Win8
Love DualBooting
Love Android
Love Transformer Prime
Love thought of Win8/Programs running on tablet device
HATE METROPOS (er i mean UI...)
i was thinking more on the line of having both android and windows 8 on the transformer with a dual boot option and when u boot up u pick ur poison
Further to my previous comment, I have been thinking about this, and I think if the opportunity to Dual-Boot came along, I would go for it.
Purely for a full Microsoft Office suite on the Tablet. Then I could leave my laptop at home and take my tablet only!
Finally Ubuntu for the tablets is here. That's Right!!! This Thursday for the nexus7 and 10. Here goes the official video http://youtu.be/h384z7Ph0gU
hit the thanks... been a while
Almost here ,.....
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Finally Ubuntu for the tablets is here. That's Right!!! This Thursday for the nexus7 and 10. Here goes the official video http://youtu.be/h384z7Ph0gU
hit the thanks... been a while
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Just the developer preview right now it looks like, I thought it was the full release for some reason. Anyone planning to jump in head first just for fun?
I think I'm going to wait a little bit, conceptually it seems great but I would initially like to "dual-boot" if that is in any way possible - does it actually install a grub like pre-loader where I could choose to boot to my SentinalROM instead? How about Google Play store integration, any news on that? The biggest hurdle for myself would be losing access to all my Play Store games/books.
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Just the developer preview right now it looks like, I thought it was the full release for some reason. Anyone planning to jump in head first just for fun?
I think I'm going to wait a little bit, conceptually it seems great but I would initially like to "dual-boot" if that is in any way possible - does it actually install a grub like pre-loader where I could choose to boot to my SentinalROM instead? How about Google Play store integration, any news on that? The biggest hurdle for myself would be losing access to all my Play Store games/books.
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Oh absolutely. I plan on downloading it as soon as it goes live.
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Just the developer preview right now it looks like, I thought it was the full release for some reason. Anyone planning to jump in head first just for fun?
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Yep
Astriaal said:
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I'm going to give it a try on my Nexus 7.. That's my entertainment/screw around with my own builds tablet.. I'm really not privvy to testing "development previews" of an alternate OS on a $500 tablet.. I'll at minimum wait a bit to feel it out on the Nexus 7 first and hear back from those who did try it on the Nexus 10.
Can this be dual booted?
I already backed up my tablet's data on pc. Ready to install it on both nexus 7 and 10!
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Can this be dual booted?
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I haven't read detail on it yet, but I did see a note indicating that it can be set up with dual boot -- needs a custom recovery, but it appeared pretty straightforward when I glanced at the description. Dual boot would certainly make me more receptive to giving it a try.
I'm not much of a developer but I'm all over this. Been waiting for over a year for this.
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Dual boot is mandatory for me to do this
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Dual boot is mandatory for me to do this
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agreed. dual boot or no go!
if there is ubuntu for android where you have access to your android apps. Why cant we do that with our nexus 10?
I dont care for dualbooting if I can have access to android apps from within ubuntu.
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if there is ubuntu for android where you have access to your android apps. Why cant we do that with our nexus 10?
I dont care for dualbooting if I can have access to android apps from within ubuntu.
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As far as I know you do not have access to your android applications you simply have ubuntu.
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Loving this. You know they're turning this loose for the imaginative dev/hacker community to get great ideas for a full release on their own devices. It will benefit all in the long run. Google better embrace this as the future, I hope.
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As far as I know you do not have access to your android applications you simply have ubuntu.
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well that sounds like............it sucks. smh
i mean all these people happy to that ubuntu is about here, that they would give up all their android apps? really????????????????
Recon Freak said:
Loving this. You know they're turning this loose for the imaginative dev/hacker community to get great ideas for a full release on their own devices. It will benefit all in the long run. Google better embrace this as the future, I hope.
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It's great seeing this kind of development, but I'm not yet clear that it's something that would help Google or necessarily benefit the majority of the user community...at least not in the near term. Google's been working hard at gaining market acceptance for Android, and a significant component of this will likely be, increasingly, the availability of Android as an internally consistent ecosystem that spans phone and tablets. Ubuntu is pushing the same idea, i.e., a single ecosystem that encompasses phones, tablets and PC's -- and that's great. But unless there's interoperability between OS's, it may be a while before the consumer market is ready to embrace yet another mobile OS in a big way, as appealing as Ubuntu may be.
My Android phone (Galaxy Nexus) and tablets (N10 and N7) work so well together these days that I really wouldn't want to replace any of them with a device running an OS and aps that didn't "connect" with my other devices as well and seamlessly as they all work together now. I'm also not about to replace all 3 devices right away, and start fresh finding apps that mimic the functionality of the 100+ Android apps that I have installed.
Android and Ubuntu are both based on Linux at the lowest levels, so they can take advantage of common hardware drivers. But at the app level, they're based on different languages and runtime systems - so far. At the moment, Android apps can't run on Ubuntu in any kind of native mode and vice versa. While Google is working to gain broad acceptance of Android, what incentive would they have to throw another OS in the mix at this stage of the game?
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Android and Ubuntu are both based on Linux at the lowest levels, so they can take advantage of common hardware drivers. But at the app level, they're based on different languages and runtime systems - so far. At the moment, Android apps can't run on Ubuntu in any kind of native mode and vice versa. While Google is working to gain broad acceptance of Android, what incentive would they have to throw another OS in the mix at this stage of the game?
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Well I meant to quote and managed to thank you - While they are based on different levels I do recall hearing that there would be a dalvik vm built into ubuntu to allow for android applications to run inside the system as well - as long as you have the apk and such. Similar to BlueStacks for W8 and Windows desktop.
omac_ranger said:
Well I meant to quote and managed to thank you - While they are based on different levels I do recall hearing that there would be a dalvik vm built into ubuntu to allow for android applications to run inside the system as well - as long as you have the apk and such. Similar to BlueStacks for W8 and Windows desktop.
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Thanks for the thanks, however inadvertent
As far as I've read, Canonical doesn't plan on creating a Dalvik JVM for Ubuntu any time soon. The statement from them suggested that they recognize that native compiled apps (the dev ecosystem on Ubuntu is primarily HTML5, QML, C++) will run faster and more efficiently than code running within a JVM -- this was part of the comment when asked if they were planning to incorporate a Dalvik emulator in Ubuntu. There's nothing to prevent someone from developing one, but making this work properly will also require cooperation between the Dalvik implementation and the security framework in Ubuntu -- certainly possible, but I'm guessing it could be a year before anything comprehensive along those lines is likely to make it to market.
There's also another question nagging at me: how will Google evolve Android over the next couple of years? With an increasing number of apps rolling out for Android, it's conceivable that multiple windows (such as Samsung already offers) may become a regular feature, apps will become increasingly powerful -- and the distinction, at least for many people and many applications -- between PC and Android device -- will become vanishingly small for many purposes. If that happens, my guess is that this would further reduce any incentive for Google to somehow tie Ubuntu in with Android.
Of course I could be 100% wrong, and this just be the kind of thinking that happens after a 12 hour day without enough coffee... I personally love the evolution of hardware and software, and look forward to seeing how this all pans out. Fun to speculate in the meantime.
jonstrong said:
Thanks for the thanks, however inadvertent
As far as I've read, Canonical doesn't plan on creating a Dalvik JVM for Ubuntu any time soon. The statement from them suggested that they recognize that native compiled apps (the dev ecosystem on Ubuntu is primarily HTML5, QML, C++) will run faster and more efficiently than code running within a JVM -- this was part of the comment when asked if they were planning to incorporate a Dalvik emulator in Ubuntu. There's nothing to prevent someone from developing one, but making this work properly will also require cooperation between the Dalvik implementation and the security framework in Ubuntu -- certainly possible, but I'm guessing it could be a year before anything comprehensive along those lines is likely to make it to market.
There's also another question nagging at me: how will Google evolve Android over the next couple of years? With an increasing number of apps rolling out for Android, it's conceivable that multiple windows (such as Samsung already offers) may become a regular feature, apps will become increasingly powerful -- and the distinction, at least for many people and many applications -- between PC and Android device -- will become vanishingly small for many purposes. If that happens, my guess is that this would further reduce any incentive for Google to somehow tie Ubuntu in with Android.
Of course I could be 100% wrong, and this just be the kind of thinking that happens after a 12 hour day without enough coffee... I personally love the evolution of hardware and software, and look forward to seeing how this all pans out. Fun to speculate in the meantime.
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Why does Ubuntu have to do anything with Google?
The developer preview is being made for Nexus devices but that's only because they are readily available and open to hacking.
I don't think Canonical realistically thinks Ubuntu will be the lead platform for Phones and Tablets but that's okay. They're currently trying to fill a niche with their tablet OS which is the enterprise market. This is one place where Android hasn't made a ton of inroads and it happens to be where Canonical makes their money(albeit still not profitable).
Yes,I'm serious guys..
'Crossover for Android' by Codeweavers, which will let you run Windows® Software on x86 Android devices (including RemixOS for PC) is nearing its long awaited very first Technology Preview. (More info at https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jramey/2016/8/16/great-expectations-for-crossover-android)
And sign up here with your Google Playstore Account (Gmail) at https://www.codeweavers.com/product...ww.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-android so that you'll be invited when it's released.
This is gonna be great for people who can't leave Windows just because a handful of windows software.
Hurry Up!
Maybe just office is essential.. And some games. But what about the performance?
The idea... is great
Like running photoshop... on RemixOs x86
But, most apps that Windows has.. is available at Googlemarket (in some/sort form)
I have crossover for linux.. but i rarly use it...
Still.... great work Crossover!
Wow that's a good news
@RemixOS_Jason Why did you really give up on this? I'm little bit curious..
Thisu said:
@RemixOS_Jason Why did you really give up on this? I'm little bit curious..
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@Thisu - I think what Codeweavers is doing is pretty cool and look forward to trying out their Technology Preview of Crossover for Android when it's available to try.
RemixOS_Jason said:
@Thisu - I think what Codeweavers is doing is pretty cool and look forward to trying out their Technology Preview of Crossover for Android when it's available to try.
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In my view, Jide really had to keep that partnership they 'had'..
I'm able to run Photoscape ...
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I'm able to run Photoscape ...
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Congratz!!
While I admire the idea, we got WineHQ already and it installs program like normal windows one.
In comparison, crossover opens a windows window -so u got like a system in a system in a window where one can install stuff.
So isn't it better to use WineHQ instead lol...
Is this project even active? Will play around with it alongside with WineHQ on my Remix OS.
Is it Linux or Mac os
Lavithiran -=-=-= said:
Is it Linux or Mac os
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I prefer Ubuntu Linux
ok a good choise
Lavithiran -=-=-= said:
ok a good choise
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There is no exact replacement for or better than Microsoft Windows. Whether any alternative will work for you depends on how the other OS characteristics compare to your needs.
The most commonly considered alternatives include Apple’s OS X on Macs, Linux, Fedora, Red Hat and the Google Chrome operating systems. They do each have significant pitfalls, depending on what you are expecting.
There is no one size fits all approach when it comes to comparison(s).
i use arch btw (joke)
raspbian
There aren't better OS. Most important is what software run on your selected OS. Or is there alternative to your required software? And at least is it easy to setup, configure or to do non basic thing. I know many linux users who representing slef like "linux expert", when I ask to configure some non standard things usual this ends I don't have a time, read forum etc.
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There aren't better OS. Most important is what software run on your selected OS. Or is there alternative to your required software? And at least is it easy to setup, configure or to do non basic thing. I know many linux users who representing slef like "linux expert", when I ask to configure some non standard things usual this ends I don't have a time, read forum etc.
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yeah, there's USUALLY an os that has advantages over the other one for everyone's use cases.
macos vs linux is sorta where id say linux is basically equal to it, if not beating it in some departments (unless you're balls deep into the apple ecosystem or you like the look of mac hardware).
same goes for android vs ios, although people get pretty heated about that one, ios (hot take) has.. no real advantages? sure, its got the ecosystem, but thats pretty much it. your locked into one version, no custom roms. their "security and privacy" arguments dont make much sense when you realize the entire internet runs on open source, and the very foundation we are running on would crumble if it werent for open source technologies. yes sure, stock roms like touchwiz, miui, even one ui are probably not as secure as could be (although oneui is actually pretty decent, and comparable to ios in security), but if your willing to tinker a little bit, an android is going to excel in privacy and security (pixel + grapheneos).
windows vs other oses is where i cant really compare, because even tho windows is pretty much a sh*t show at this point, it still has all the software one could ever need, being compatible with much older software too (although thats sorta hit or miss, especially since older hardware is being phased out with windows 11).
linux outclasses windows in terms of features and such, but for the near future at least, it still wont beat windows in terms of software support, it just doesnt have that kind of foothold, and developers arent as familiar with it too.
i hate microsoft's monopoly as much as the next guy, but they're here to stay, so you might aswell keep buying microsoft windows for the forseeable future, since their monopoly is going no where.
in summary: some oses (mac vs linux, ios vs android) have pretty clear winners, but some others (like windows vs linux) arent as clear and DO actually come down to personal preference, not just "ive sunk [obsurd amount of money] into [fruit-company-that-shall-not-be-named] so im not switching to brokeOS"
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ios (hot take) has.. no real advantages? sure, its got the ecosystem, but thats pretty much it. your locked into one version, no custom roms. their "security and privacy" arguments dont make much sense when you realize the entire internet runs on open source
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The best OS is the one that suits most or all of your needs.
If you want an OS that just works out of the box and is compatible with almost everything, Windows
If you want an OS that is more locked down, but secure and works with most things, iOS
If you are more tech-savvy and want an OS that you can have complete control over, including how it looks and is very secure, lightweight and fast, Linux, and even then, there are many different Linux variants.
but for making roms which is good
RDS5 said:
i use arch btw (joke)
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You must be an exeptional professional, i use anARCHy, btw
HipKat said:
The best OS is the one that suits most or all of your needs.
If you want an OS that just works out of the box and is compatible with almost everything, Windows
If you want an OS that is more locked down, but secure and works with most things, iOS
If you are more tech-savvy and want an OS that you can have complete control over, including how it looks and is very secure, lightweight and fast, Linux, and even then, there are many different Linux variants.
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Hi!
You are right when you say Windows "is compatible with almost everything", have huge virus library to choose from, no privacy, you have no control over it... can't even disable or turn off updates, not to mention his own "antivirus". If read the EUA you weaver the right to take Microsoft to a Court of Law.
On the other hand you have Linux you have the right to choose what OS you want to install and works out of the box and yet you don't have to be a "tech-savvy" to install or use linux and you can eve run windows software (not all) on linux.
I've been using Linux Ubuntu as a daily driver since 2019 and switch to Mint in 2020 and still have Windows 10 and 11 Installed.
I don't have many of my windows software, but found a lot of replacements, play games native to linux, others with Wine and i am happy with my choice.
With everything that is new there is a learning curve with Linux or Windows and i am not like some people that force any OS down the throat or say "that problem with Linux is that exist to many versions", i say i am free to choose as i am free to choose my girlfriend, my wife, my car, phone, computer.
Microsoft chooses for you is Windows 11 or 11 because in 2025 there are no more updates.
Since 2007 i downloaded many Linux ISO and stick with Ubuntu (Debian) and then Mint (Debian), both big community. I even downloaded Arch didn't how manually install, it's for power users, installed centOS not didn't like it.
There are no wrong or right choices when it comes to Linux, its a question find the right one and sticking to it.
Thank you.
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You must be an exeptional professional, i use anARCHy, btw
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Me as well, but I use Arcolinux
Rah-Rah80 said:
Hi!
You are right when you say Windows "is compatible with almost everything", have huge virus library to choose from, no privacy, you have no control over it... can't even disable or turn off updates, not to mention his own "antivirus". If read the EUA you weaver the right to take Microsoft to a Court of Law.
On the other hand you have Linux you have the right to choose what OS you want to install and works out of the box and yet you don't have to be a "tech-savvy" to install or use linux and you can eve run windows software (not all) on linux.
I've been using Linux Ubuntu as a daily driver since 2019 and switch to Mint in 2020 and still have Windows 10 and 11 Installed.
I don't have many of my windows software, but found a lot of replacements, play games native to linux, others with Wine and i am happy with my choice.
With everything that is new there is a learning curve with Linux or Windows and i am not like some people that force any OS down the throat or say "that problem with Linux is that exist to many versions", i say i am free to choose as i am free to choose my girlfriend, my wife, my car, phone, computer.
Microsoft chooses for you is Windows 11 or 11 because in 2025 there are no more updates.
Since 2007 i downloaded many Linux ISO and stick with Ubuntu (Debian) and then Mint (Debian), both big community. I even downloaded Arch didn't how manually install, it's for power users, installed centOS not didn't like it.
There are no wrong or right choices when it comes to Linux, its a question find the right one and sticking to it.
Thank you.
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You are preaching to the choir my friend. I have not used Windows in a long time. Everyone doing boats with different distro‘s on and off for about 10 years but never made the commitment to go full-time Linux until last year.
Sometimes I have to reboot into windows for updates that are companies specific and are not available on my Linux distro, But those rate times I’m in and out and I feel dirty while I’m there. I ran Manjaro for over a year now I am, as I posted above fully running Arco.
Totally different than Manjaro which to me was starting to become the Arch version of Ubuntu.
Even games, ones I played at Windows, most of them I can run on Arch.
TBH, I know that people that use Arch are to Linux users like Linux users are to Windows users. Or iOS users to android users. Clicky fanboys lol but really, it’s just better. And if you don’t want to change desktop environments, it runs good gnome very well.
BTW, all the various flavors of arch come with Calamaras installers now. Even pure arch which I just put on a test laptop has a graphical installer.
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You are preaching to the choir my friend. I have not used Windows in a long time. Everyone doing boats with different distro‘s on and off for about 10 years but never made the commitment to go full-time Linux until last year.
Sometimes I have to reboot into windows for updates that are companies specific and are not available on my Linux distro, But those rate times I’m in and out and I feel dirty while I’m there. I ran Manjaro for over a year now I am, as I posted above fully running Arco.
Totally different than Manjaro which to me was starting to become the Arch version of Ubuntu.
Even games, ones I played at Windows, most of them I can run on Arch.
TBH, I know that people that use Arch are to Linux users like Linux users are to Windows users. Or iOS users to android users. Clicky fanboys lol but really, it’s just better. And if you don’t want to change desktop environments, it runs good gnome very well.
BTW, all the various flavors of arch come with Calamaras installers now. Even pure arch which I just put on a test laptop has a graphical installer.
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Hello
I'm no preacher, my days defending Linux over Windows or vice-versa are long gone... over the years i learned that most people are dumb and don't care about anything as long it works.
Theses days i only talk about my experience about both OS, not iOS because i don't have a Mac nor have the intent to buy one. To closed for me.
With friends i talk about Linux and what he can do, if they to try i will help, if want to learn i will teach what i know and if i don't i still search for an answer online.
So far i only played old games on Mint (DOS/Windows) currently playing Diablo 3.
I can handle Mint so far, i heard good things about Manjaro, at the time the videos i saw on youtube, the theme didn't appealed to me, i may try it some day.
On my laptop i had Lubuntu for some years, now i have Peppermint 11, not bad.
Rah-Rah80 said:
Hello
I'm no preacher, my days defending Linux over Windows or vice-versa are long gone... over the years i learned that most people are dumb and don't care about anything as long it works.
Theses days i only talk about my experience about both OS, not iOS because i don't have a Mac nor have the intent to buy one. To closed for me.
With friends i talk about Linux and what he can do, if they to try i will help, if want to learn i will teach what i know and if i don't i still search for an answer online.
So far i only played old games on Mint (DOS/Windows) currently playing Diablo 3.
I can handle Mint so far, i heard good things about Manjaro, at the time the videos i saw on youtube, the theme didn't appealed to me, i may try it some day.
On my laptop i had Lubuntu for some years, now i have Peppermint 11, not bad.
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Manjaro has many hundreds of free themes that are easy to install
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Manjaro has many hundreds of free themes that are easy to install
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Hello!
Maybe i'll have a go with Manjaro on my test computer.
Rah-Rah80 said:
Hello!
Maybe i'll have a go with Manjaro on my test computer.
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If you do, I had the best experience with KDE
Lavithiran -=-=-= said:
but for making roms which is good
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Ubuntu is good for building roms but any Linux distro should do the job.