Hello,
I was unable to google out any information regarding this topic, so I'm asking pros for opinion
I'm about to purchase new head unit with PX6 processor, but I was surprised when I saw on YT this unit showing PX6 package with quad-core A72+quad-core A53. Have you seen this design before, or is it just another faked value by chinese scammers?
Thanks
Is it an MTCD
Yes it is. Sorry, I don't have a link to english based description page... https://allegro.pl/oferta/uniwersal...wZTJiZWQ1NmUyZTIxN2RhOGFhMDgwNTM3Y2E1OGQwZTg=
How will you find out
px6 is commonly known as a rk3399 4gbram 64 gb drive nothing new there ?? fit their descriptions
the best proof is to get the system infos pictures ...
So, they claim to be RK3399 and "Octa Core", but (at least in the translation) I don't see they explaining what the "Octa-core" has inside (like 4xA72). So, my guess is a normal PX6 Hexa-Core with the usual Chinese-publisher mistake (describing it as Octa-Core)
Anyway, I would NOT recommend you to buy a PX6 nowadays. Better options:
- IF YOU ARE IN A HURRY: FYT Units based on 2xA75 + 6xA55 and up to 6GB RAM (UIS 7862) People seems quite happy with them (better audio as an example). Look on the FYT subforum here. A75 is quite more than an incremental update to A72.
- IF YOU CAN WAIT: Rockchip has their RK-3588 Scheduled for Q3/Q4 this year. What makes it relevant is that it is 4xA76, so twice the number of Big Cores, and A76 is not an evolution of A75 but is a completely clean-sheet design. It was originally scheduled for Q4 2020 but with the Chip-Shortage... Also UIS (the SoC manufacturers used on FYT) also have a 4xA76 chip to be launched "inminently"
OK, be aware that "waiting" could be more than 6 months... Neither SoC is anywhere to be seen yet and HW developers would need time to adapt the designs... In my case I have a PX5 that "works" (with delays on the UI) and I have decided to wait. But if you have NO unit at this time... go for a FYT
Hope this info helps
Any new information on this - RK-3588? Seeing that this insightful post was 6 months, i would like to know if there's any sighting of devices with this soc?
maxiauer said:
So, they claim to be RK3399 and "Octa Core", but (at least in the translation) I don't see they explaining what the "Octa-core" has inside (like 4xA72). So, my guess is a normal PX6 Hexa-Core with the usual Chinese-publisher mistake (describing it as Octa-Core)
Anyway, I would NOT recommend you to buy a PX6 nowadays. Better options:
- IF YOU ARE IN A HURRY: FYT Units based on 2xA75 + 6xA55 and up to 6GB RAM (UIS 7862) People seems quite happy with them (better audio as an example). Look on the FYT subforum here. A75 is quite more than an incremental update to A72.
- IF YOU CAN WAIT: Rockchip has their RK-3588 Scheduled for Q3/Q4 this year. What makes it relevant is that it is 4xA76, so twice the number of Big Cores, and A76 is not an evolution of A75 but is a completely clean-sheet design. It was originally scheduled for Q4 2020 but with the Chip-Shortage... Also UIS (the SoC manufacturers used on FYT) also have a 4xA76 chip to be launched "inminently"
OK, be aware that "waiting" could be more than 6 months... Neither SoC is anywhere to be seen yet and HW developers would need time to adapt the designs... In my case I have a PX5 that "works" (with delays on the UI) and I have decided to wait. But if you have NO unit at this time... go for a FYT
Hope this info helps
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Any new information on this - RK-3588? Seeing that this insightful post was 6 months, i would like to know if there's any sighting of devices with this soc?
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So, the chip was launched in January, and now there are several SBC (Single Board Computers) that have launched products using it. If you do a Google Search you will find a few
Regarding Dasaita, they claim is "planned" (https://www.dasaita.com/community/forum/topic/66834/any-plan-to-use-rk3588-in-the-future )
Having said that, Rockchip has also launched a version called RK-3588S (nothe the S at the end) which has less PCI channels for extra data ports. That makes it cheaper (while having the same CPU processing power), and while some people argues it is directed for Tablet market (where you do not have a ton of ports), they added CAN-BUS support, so I expect that one to be used on Android Stereos due to its price, and maybe, who knows, chinese manufacturers add a few surprises making use of the CANBus connection
https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/12/rockchip-rk3588s-cost-optimized-cortex-a76-a55-processor/
BUT - Do not hold your breath. I suspect we are still talking about months here (maybe September/November shopping season?). As I already have a PX5 unit, I am willing to wait. But that might not be the case for everybody.
@maxiauer thanks for the info. I also have a PX5 Which is showing signs of aging by constantly disconnecting from my USB stick. Waiting until the newer version comes out is not an issue provided the one i have remain functional.
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@maxiauer thanks for the info. I also have a PX5 Which is showing signs of aging by constantly disconnecting from my USB stick. Waiting until the newer version comes out is not an issue provided the one i have remain functional.
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Do consider a uis7862 FYT (e.g. as sold by navifly/mekede, not endorsing either) they are miles better than the MTCD based units while cheaper than even the most overpriced Dasaita MTCD.
You won't regret it, it's the software and the hardware improvements that make a huge difference.
Join us here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/
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Do consider a uis7862 FYT (e.g. as sold by navifly/mekede, not endorsing either) they are miles better than the MTCD based units while cheaper than even the most overpriced Dasaita MTCD.
You won't regret it, it's the software and the hardware improvements that make a huge difference.
Join us here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/
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Just of out curiosity... What direction are they finally moving with regards to allow open SW? Several months ago it seemed like they were forcing users (as an example) to use their own Voice assistant rather than allowing Google Assistant... And I think I saw something about accessories (like having to use their TPM).
That was the main reason I stop researching those units. But with so many posts (and providers) sometimes it is hard to keep on track with the news
It looked to me like they were becoming the "Apple' of the Android Auto... Units do work great, as far as you only do what they say you should do. Which, for some users, that is great. But not for me
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Do consider a uis7862 FYT (e.g. as sold by navifly/mekede, not endorsing either) they are miles better than the MTCD based units while cheaper than even the most overpriced Dasaita MTCD.
You won't regret it, it's the software and the hardware improvements that make a huge difference.
Join us here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/
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I was able to find the Mekede model on AliExpress but no video review yet. Any idea if there's a video review our there?
The videos on YouTube are not actually reviews ( the ones i saw at least)
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I was able to find the Mekede model on AliExpress but no video review yet. Any idea if there's a video review our there?
The videos on YouTube are not actually reviews ( the ones i saw at least)
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See FYT forums as posted and live a happy life with shiny new FYT uis7862
I'm about to purchase new head unit with PX6 processor, ... Having said that, Rockchip has also launched a version called RK-3588S
thugtomas said:
I'm about to purchase new head unit with PX6 processor, ... Having said that, Rockchip has also launched a version called RK-3588S
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Miss my post above
PX6 is a bad investment. Too old, most probably with a short life-expectancy taking into account that year by year apps / OS become more "resource hungry" as mobile phones become more capable...
If you are in a hurry, UIS 7862 is your best option... although that specific CPU is a 2020 model... not that old but a considerable time in the Mobile-Phone industry. If a Tablet lasts "snappy" for 5 years (and basically you are buying a tablet), you have already missed half of its life expectancy. Also, it only has 2 powerful CPUs (vs the standard today on phones being 4). Of course, is not like it will stop working, you require less from those units than from a normal tablet...(basically play music and show maps). But it will start showing its age.
Dasaita "claimed" they will be launching a RK-3588S this year but...
In general terms, it doesn't look to be a great time to buy a new unit. But if you need it, go for the UIS
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actualite/28876-Tablette-Android.html
From bestofmicro (Can't post links as a new user)
Google Translation for the first (French) site:
A few weeks after the formalization of the iPad 2, Archos has reported on its fiscal 2010 and the prospects offered by the current year. If the French company back to green finance side, the year 2011 will undoubtedly hinge for the manufacturer of tablets. The Archos Generation 9 of tablets will be unveiled at next June, but some elements are already known.
They are no less than 6 new products touchscreen (5 "to 10") which added to the Archos line of tablet, a priori all Android. The manufacturer put a new structure combines thin plastic and lightweight metal. A new processor will also be a part: it is the ARM model A9 dual-core 1.6 GHz, billed as the most powerful to date, incorporated into a tablet.
Yes i heard it too!
that was clearly when i brought my A101 - everything is become to be old!
But i love my 101 and i'm dont gonna buy my an gen9 im waiting for 10/11.
Then hopefully some android devs can port the honeycomb version on gen9 to our gen8!
http://www.archos.com/corporate/investors/financial_doc/ARCHOS_2010_Results_en.pdf
Page 18, header reads, "4 key differentiators in Gen 9 tablets to be released in June 2011"
:O
it is real
i see this press presentation
and i wait more informations
Here is another article about these:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sneak-peek-at-archos-gen-9-tablets-1-6-ghz-dual-core-a9-process/
I mean it looks cool, but I refuse to buy a new tablet every year. So I'll probably use my Gen8 101 until it dies and look for a new tablet whenever that happens. Right now it is just a consumption device anyway. Web surfing, e-mail, eBooks, etc...no need to get something new.
Exactly. Its not necessary to have these things constantly upgraded and driving up the price to own one. The point of a tablet was a smaller, cheaper, lighter alternative to a netbook for basic usage such as e-books, web surfing, email, etc.(Personal favorite use for my Archos A101T 16GB has been as a digital comic reader, thousands of my digital comics all in one place and the form factor is perfect scale for comics) as well as a decent portable media device. All the additions that they are making, are bells and whistles that won't dramatically improve my current experience.
For Gen 10 I bet they'll be using something like Tegra 3 with quad core configured Cortex A9, or maybe even A15 Eagle?
I think I'll pick one up in the summer as I currently don't have any devices. Biding my time :3
You lose your bet, man it'll be Rockchip, I'm sure.
Rockchip doesn't even have anything planned for ~2 years >_>
And at 1.6Ghz I think Archos is looking to use a modified OMAP 4440/4460, it looks like it's seemingly the closest
Gen9 better have at LEAST 1GB of RAM in order to stay competitive. There's no point having a fast processor if all you can do is run one app at a time...
Now that I sold my Gen8, I might consider one of these, but I think I learned a valuable lesson venturing into the tablet world. First, the tablet needs to be at least marginally future-proofed. In other words, come from a manufacturer with a good track record of updating the OS...OR....not use locked down proprietary crap so that devs like those on XDA can cook up newer ROMS. Second, it has to have the hardware to support not only the current generation of OS, but preferably what is anticipated for the next generation or two. So at least 1024mb of RAM, 32-64GB storage, dual-core processor with decent speed, etc.
So we will see how the Gen9's look when they really do come out.
The thing I like most about Archos is their media support though. They absolutely kill the competition on media support...which is pretty important when you look at this kind of device (at least for me).
I think it is more likely to have 2.3 that 3.0
If anyone's keen, I started a hardware modding thread for the Archos Gen9. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15668374#post15668374
I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
steviesteve78 said:
I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
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Is it a tegra 2 device? If so we all here would at least love a full working gingerbread rom.
No - sorry - its Cortex A8
Processor 1Ghz Cortex A8 Processor
OS Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
LCD Monitor 9.7” IPS LCD 1024 x 768 ; XGA
Brightness 400 cd/m2 Brightness
Memory DDR3 512 MB
Internal Memory 4GB
Band Wifi only
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth BlueTooth 3.0 and 2.1 + EDR compatibility
External Memory Micro SD card slot
I/O Interface Micro USB/ Mini-HDMI/ 3.5mm headset audio jack
Audio Stereo speakers/ microphone
Sensors G-sensor
Cameras Front: CMOS 1.3MP
Battery Li-Polymer 5400mAh
Charger 12V/ 2Amp
USB Micro USB
Dimensions 241.6 x 188.6 x 9.1 mm
Weight 620 grams
Accessories Power adaptor (with plugs), Quick Start Guide, 1Mobile Market QSG, Compliance information, Micro USB cable
Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
Its been over 24hrs with new toy now. Will be posting a review soon. I honestly like the look and feel so much that I'm selling my Galaxy Tab 10. I'll have some money left over as well cause the Viewpad is so cheaply priced. All that extra processor power is not needed for me, I basically use the tab for web browsing, a few notes, check the weather and the kids play angry birds! This pad is definitely suited to the job.
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Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
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Ditto. For that price, you are better to go with a much wider support device like the Kindle Fire or Nook Color. Don't expect your new toy to get any substantial update to improve it beyond what it is now. The gTablet community has already been bitten by Viewsonic false promises. Your device will most likely had the same fate.
PS: a no name brand tablet from China can do all you want at an even lower price. Did you choose Viewsonic for the peace of mind of a name brand? Viewsonic don't make their own tablet. They outsource the manufacturing, the software and the support. All they really interest in is take your money.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Honestly, I was really impressed by the response I had recently from their support dept. I really like the device and I have been through a few to say the least. Seems like it could be quite hackable and I may just use it to learn some new programming skills myself! (If I can drum up some support). In my experience, every forum/thread has loads of people frustrated by lack of support from the manufacturers/resllers but for me, the point of these forums is finding help... Ill keep my fingers crossed that the OEM is discovered soon and after that finding some hacks should get easier.
Third warning about Viewsonic, their products suffer longevity shortfalls. I am now the 3rd person telling you they have the consumer integrity of a wombat. Don't hold your breath waiting for anyone to pick it up and think it will be differently. So many people got burned via the g tablet and it's abhorrent lack of updates from the manufacturer (which when it comes to things like drivers etc for future OS upgrades becomes a critical part of the equation) not many people who have been around the android block are going to make another purchase from Viewsonic so you could very well be alone for the foreseeable future in this purchase. I don't even like having a Viewsonic monitor on my desk at work anymore. Again, take what you are hearing at face value, Viewsonic + android = meh. I enjoyed my g tablet when i purchased it and it does almost all that I need but I hoped for more and have gotten less. Keep it if you like, but 6 months from now when you are looking at another tablet you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone to buy your Viewsonic. The poor reputation flags are there already.
Keep in mind, Viewsonic is the same company that came to XDA saying they wanted feedback and input from this community about the g tablet. That was spring of this year and not a single thing has changed. They did that one firmware update in April and since then it has been nothing but pushed changes that then get pulled back.
Keep it if you are happy with it, I just wouldn't expect anything in terms of a large community ever coming of one of their devices.
It's been almost a year since they promised they'd release an update. Every time I've asked them about update, the only reply I've gotten is "we're working on it." I dare you to find any report of a different response than that.
Viewsonic needs to go back to producing nothing but display monitors and projectors. This company is not ready yet to play with the big boys in the computing market.
US vs UK - not exactly the same...
The G-Tablet was a US only product?!
The Viewpad 10e is only in the UK so far..... 9.7" IPS panel for £199, 9mm thick looks good value to me if your needs are not too demanding
Cant get my 10e to play videos from iplayer, any idea as to why not?
I decided to try one...
Works on live streaming for me from the app but not the others, think it could be to do with the Flash player version, read recently about other tablet users having issues with bandwidth / setting local storage to 0...
Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
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Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
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BBC iPlayer 1.04 apk from the web. It still is only working for me with live TV, Flash version 10.3, Flash 11.0 wasn't working...
Will play around with the different versions in the office today
Ok so I now have the Viewpad 10e working with BBC iPlayer.
I used BBC iPlayer 1.0.4 & Flash 10.3.185.25
I put these into a zip file on 4shared, not sure if I am allowed to share the link or not..
Hello
I'm very keen on the Viewpad 10e myself. Has anyone tried out the multimedia side of it? it would be great t be able to play 1080p movies, etc. By the sounds of the 3D stuff that comes with it, it should be a decent GPU in it, would be nice to know how it does.
Custom ROM
Does anyone know how to install a custom ROM on the device?
Hi all
I'm thinking of getting one of these too. But I'm a bit concerened about the 'dated' SC A8 CPU and the dated OS?
Some of the things I will want to do on this is video calling using Skype (yes, I know there are other alternatives, but it has to be Skype) and playing DivX/Xvid movies and some .MKV movies. Could anyone tell me if it will be good enough? I am quite impressed by the dimensions and the screen, but if the specs can't keep up then I'm thinking of a cheap and chunky Tegra 2 tablet like the POV which is actually £10 cheaper and I'll put a custom ViewComb 3.2 ROM on it...
Any suggestions/opinions?
Does anyone know how to root the device?
Just got one for my daughter.
First impressions : well-made bit of kit with a great IPS screen. worth it for the hardware, I would say.
Moon reader pro is great on it, as is perfect viewer for comics and pdf's.
Can't get the video calling working for some reason. Anyone had any joy with this ?
Have tried Tango and Fring. In both cases, the FFC doesn't seem to switch on. You can see the the other person on it, but they can't see you.
Also, with Tango, the mic is switched off, and can't be switched back on.
Some sort of firmware shenanigans going on here. Had a quick chat with Viewsonic customer support just now, who will email me back.
Bit concerned by the negative comments on this thread !
Wanted the archos 101 as HMV were doing it for £129 , but just missed the boat, and then this came to my attention in Argos. Hope I haven't landed a dud !
Well, so far, have managed to get all her bits on it. Their version of market is a bit limited, but there is enough to get you started. Go launcher was a must, after having it on my Galaxy S2 phone, and it seems to cope ok. Formatted some of her films as mp4's and the shipped 'vortex player' handles them well.
Video calling would have been icing on the cake really.
Oh yeah, and whatsapp functionality, but there are ways around that I am looking into now.
Overall so far - promising.
Root and custom rom's would really maximise this thing's potential.
Oh yeah, and won't talk to my macbook pro over bluetooth- first device ever to do that.
Hi xda-Members,
I have a simple question:
Is the Cube U9GT-2 compatible with CyanogenMod?
I've got Gingerbread on my tablet, but I'm not really satisfied with this OS, maybe because it's developed for smartphones and not tablets.
Greets Meldamos
Hi.
Unfortunately I cannot help with your question. All I know is that some people are experimentinig with ICS (Android 4.0) on the U9GT-2, and there is a beta firmware for it if you would like to give it a try.
I am also thinking of buying one of these tablets. I found it for 230 Euros (=290 USD, =190 GBP). I was just about to press the "Add to cart" button when I saw your post.
What do you thing about this tablet? Do you have it long? Are you happy?
Also can you please PM me with the information of where you bought it from and if you were happy with the transaction (if it was an online buy)?
Thanks
Little review of U9GT-2
Well I have this tablet for 2-3 Weeks now and I don't regret it. I bought this tablet over an online-shop called cect-shop, because the support is in german and it has a warranty of 1 year. And there it costs 200€ with 25€ express shipment (there in 3 days from china to germany ^^) and 25€ toll. All in all I paid around 250€, much cheaper than here in germany where it starts at 350€ up to 700€ and not almost on a level of the capacity this tablet has. By the way if you ask cect-shop, they'll send you a stylus pen with your tablet for free.
The tablet uses Android 2.3 with Honeycomb style, not bad but could be better. The OS seems not to be build for battery saving, because the power runs of after 2-3 days in standby.
I asked the manufacturer about ICS and got the answer that they're working on it, but still need time to finish the compatibility with U9GT-2. They'll publish it on their homepage I think.
On the look it get often mistaken with an Apple iPad but it's not exactly like one. The capacitive display works fine, it discerns up to 10 fingers but you are not using 10 finger actually ^^
The sound is pretty good I think, even if I don't really know how the standard quality of tablets are. The big trouble is like I said the OS. But it's a thing you can change and does not affect the quality of this tablet.
If anyone has precise questions feel free to ask. I'm not good at writing a review.
Thanks for the valuable info.
Few questions more if you are kind enough:
1. Can you confirm the manufacturer's site? I have found one web address in China and never managed to connect
2. Can you confirm the thickness of it? Is it realy less than 10mm? Does it actually feel like an i-pad when you are carrying it around?
3. The material on the back side is it realy aluminium?
4. I have noticed that on different sites they give slightly different specs from cect.Ie pandawill gives a CPU of 1Ghz, thickness of 7mm and battery capacity 8000mAh, though cect gives 1.2Ghz, 9.7mm and 7600MAh. This is a problem with the Chinese sites / products / clones I guess... Nevertheless, since you are in Germany, you must have heard or seen an Easypix Easypad, have you? I am between the cube and the Easypad 970 (at easypix.eu). They look very similar. Do you have any personal feedback on that ?
5. Finally, does the screen look and feel like being IPS or not?
Sorry if I bother you too much, but it's the first time I buy a gadget withut actually testing or seeing one, so I am a bit concerned. Thanks
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Thanks for the valuable info.
Few questions more if you are kind enough:
1. Can you confirm the manufacturer's site? I have found one web address in China and never managed to connect
2. Can you confirm the thickness of it? Is it realy less than 10mm? Does it actually feel like an i-pad when you are carrying it around?
3. The material on the back side is it realy aluminium?
4. I have noticed that on different sites they give slightly different specs from cect.Ie pandawill gives a CPU of 1Ghz, thickness of 7mm and battery capacity 8000mAh, though cect gives 1.2Ghz, 9.7mm and 7600MAh. This is a problem with the Chinese sites / products / clones I guess... Nevertheless, since you are in Germany, you must have heard or seen an Easypix Easypad, have you? I am between the cube and the Easypad 970 (at easypix.eu). They look very similar. Do you have any personal feedback on that ?
5. Finally, does the screen look and feel like being IPS or not?
Sorry if I bother you too much, but it's the first time I buy a gadget withut actually testing or seeing one, so I am a bit concerned. Thanks
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Okay let's start:
1. Yes the manufacturer is available. There are also 2 supporter for questions available via skype. They're on workdays online so you can ask them directly. But there english seems not to be very good so better you keep your questions simple
2. I measured it now, I don't warrant than my results are exactly but they're 243mm x 190mm x 10,5mm (length x width x height). I have never had an iPad (too expensive for a tablet) but it feel very comfortable if I carry it around and it's not very heavy. I don't have a balance here but I think it's around 500-700 gram. Well it doesn't feel heavy for me that's all I can say actually.
3. YES it is aluminium and what a luck it is, because on the 3. day it got pushed against a aluminium pole and has only a really small dent left. A plastic hull would have cracked I think.
4. Don't look at the GHZ, many sellers push or fake them, maybe caused by stupidness or advertising. The U9GT-2 has a Rockchip 2918 CPU. Look for the specs on google. The battery is an advertising medium. I doesn't has 8000 mhA or even 7600 mhA. I has 2 x 4000 mhA batteries but they just sum them what they shouldn't do. Like I said the OS is not optimized for tablets and it really takes too much power in stand by. When playing you don't recognize the power loss. I played 3 hours a game called "deadly dungeon" (a dungeon crawler) and the battery has got from 63% to 49%. Well I've not saw the easypad, but they're exactly the same. They've got the same capacities and even the same OS. Throw a dice from 1-3 easypad and from 4-6 U9GT-2, that would be my solution ^^... Well I don't know if easypix is working on a ICS for easypad, just know that cube is working on it.
5. Well I don't know what you understand of a "feeling" for IPS. It looks like a monitor how you see it everywhere today. Don't know if you still have a cathode ray tube (I have one), but there is a difference. Of course, the games are sucking because they're not build for 9,7" displays . Some games are smoother with the resizing, others are bad. But the quality of the display is very good. Of course, not standard on notebooks over 15,6" (which I prefer) but for 9,7" it's high resolution.
Hope my answer could help you and other people who struggle on buying a china-tablet
PS: I've got many friends who look suspect at the tablet, like it could break every second, and I'm just smiling and laughing about their prejudices.
Fantastic answers.
Thank you very much for your effort.
I will follow your advice with the dice after the holidays
Happy Christmas
christis said:
Fantastic answers.
Thank you very much for your effort.
I will follow your advice with the dice after the holidays
Happy Christmas
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STOP!!! xD... Hope you did not buy it.
Forgot to mention that the EasyPad 970 can only use 8GB Flash HDD. U9GT-2 use 16GB! You get the double storage for the same price.
Sorry for my late answer, did not recognize the difference in the first place.
Sh*t. I bought one a few days ago
I generally know what NAND flash is, but not sure about its' importance. Mine still says 5.9 Gb free, after fully loaded with apps (I know they've got nothing to do with the NAND, but I can't seem to find a way how to run out of space in NAND). In any case, it is better to have double the capacity with the same cost, no matter what.
By the way, that NAND is some soldered microchip, or it can be a micro SD card on the motherboard so that it can "easily" be upgraded in the future if the need arises?
Nevertheless, I am happy with the tablet. Already rooted and experimenting. A couple of snags though, but I will find my way around them hopefully.
By the way, is there a way to hard - reset the tablet by hardware (since there is not a pin-hole or something)? Any combination of buttons pressed during power on?
The internal flash memory is installed in form of chips. Two in the Cube, as can be seen at tabletrepublic.com/forum/android-tablet-reviews/disassembling-cube-u9gt2-414.html, presumably one in the easypad. Apparently the 8GB of the easypad are partitioned in 0,5GB for apps and the rest for data while the 16GB in the Cube are partioned in 1GB for apps and the rest for data. I have read that by installing the cube firmware on the easypad 970, one can get 1 GB for apps, too. Personally, I think 8GB internally is plenty because media files (movies etc.) usually are stored on external SDHC cards anyway for fast swapping.
My 2 cents...
I recently bought one while I was in Beijing on holiday and was really amazed with the battery life with Android 2.3, considering I was streaming movies non-stop for 14 hours straight (in comparison with and iPad 2). The multi-touch keyboard sometimes has a lag although most the UI seems to be relatively smooth.
The camera located at the back also took decent pictures during day and night.
Overall this is a neat unit under $350.00 AUD considering most other units requiring a stylus or long fingernails to operate. I will be looking at rooting the device in a few weeks after I do a bit more research.
Let me know if you have modded your unit and your thoughts.
Thanks
Cube U9GT2 USB host controller issues
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping to solve a problem here, I just purchased a Cube U9GT2 Tablet 9.7
running: Android ICS 4.0.3 with a Kernel Version:3.0.8+.
With a build number: rk29sdk-eng4.03 IML74K eng-yangyun.20120108.124417 test-keys.
It came with an OTG/USB Cable and has both a USB and a USB/OTG port.
Let me just state this, I have tested all cables, ports and jump drives and have reformatted them to fat32, they were Fat32 also.
The problem I'm having is ICS can't see any jump drives I hook up to it. I installed a program from the Market called, USB Host Ctrlr. It ran a info check after install, and here is what it said:USB Host Controller Version Number:0.42 S3C USB Host Driver NOT Found! Root Hub Present. USB Host Mode is active.
I'm no developer or even a decent novas, but with decent instructions I can execute. Any ideas how to fix this, The price was Killer, when one is buying from a Chinese Company, the support is pretty limiting when you only speak English.
That's why the great price, I'm not complaining, I just want to get this resolved if possible.
In regards to the Tablet, I really like it a lot! pretty fast, smooth interface, easy to navigate, decent keyboard, (but I'm use to a smartphone).
It plays movies very nice, screen is plenty bright, It can use a Micro-sd card up to 32 gigs. Have not had any crashes yet, had it about 2 weeks. They have raised the prices about $13.00 I had to try one at that price, plus shipping was Free! I ordered it late on a Sunday night in USA, got it in 3 days DHL shipping, Hard to beat. Anyhow if anyone can help here, it sure be very appreciated. I would even be willing to pay something if reasonable.
If anyone is interested i can provide brand new AUTHENTIC CUBE U9GT2 at the price of euro 240.00.
The price include express shipping to all around the world (4-5 business days).
I am sending from European country so residents of EU will not pay additional taxes or VAT !!!
Let me know.
pashiamas said:
If anyone is interested i can provide brand new AUTHENTIC CUBE U9GT2 at the price of euro 240.00.
The price include express shipping to all around the world (4-5 business days).
I am sending from European country so residents of EU will not pay additional taxes or VAT !!!
Let me know.
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I bought a Nextway Fast 9 X from spemall.com as shown here:
http://www.spemall.com/Nextway-F9X-...PS-Screen-2G-Ram-1-5GHz-4K-Video-Black_g.html
After fully charging the tablet I started using it and it froze. I then restarted it and its froze a total of 5 times. Its had errors with the launcher, when opening the apps tab all the images would look like the background but pixelated.
Here is a link to the pictures i took: http://s1232.beta.photobucket.com/user/xstingstreetx/library/Defective
Next, I was able to disable some things for the tablet to run properly without crashing. However, this thing score terrible on benchmarks and is VERY slow moving. The processor is actually 1.08Ghz not 1.5.
I was able to root it thanks to Bin4ry see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Video by Bin4ry see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EpkrCq1gfM
I was able to overclock on the stock kernel and such to 1.152 stable.
I was hoping someone could help to develop ROMs, Kernels, etc to make this thing work better.
Any and all ideas or feedback is appreciated.
Things that I didnt notice when I bought it is: I dont believe there is bluetooth or GPS
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
xstingstreetx said:
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
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so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
krankdroid said:
so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
xstingstreetx said:
Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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if something sounds to good to be true. it probaly is..
sad to say the chances of someone making a ROM for non-brand products is pretty slim, since most ROM are created on the basis that a device is widely bought and used. Of non-brand phone and tablets there are such a variety that developing for them makes no sense.
Get your money back if you can, and get a branded device. For 200$ you can get a Nexus 7.
if you want the same size and format of the one you got, look around for what samsung, acer, asus, hell even what Point Of View have to offer..
Sorry, but you won't like it -
The main disadvantage of buying a no-brand device is although it may work better the known brands, in case of a fault (software or hardware), you're on your own.... Not many users have flashed/fixed/used this device. So if you brick it, get a bootloop or find a bug, not many can help you.
Not speaking about the variety of ROMs...
I've been there.... I've bought a no-brand phone and after a year it's main PCB failed. I couldn't find a replacement part and had to throw the device away.
Anyway.....
Use the device, enjoy and don't brick it
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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If the moderators will give me permission, I can give you a link to where there are 4 custom ROMs for this tablet. I have installed the BETA4 and it better utilizes the Retina Display (unless you have bad eyes, and there is one geared for that one as the defective one you are using does). I honestly don't know if your problem can be helped with software, but it might... I can also give you a link to the newest stock ROM and a Windows app to install it. I would rather get permission first to post 2 direct links... one is to Arctablet (and you can do a Google or DuckDuckGo search and find it by the way) and the other one is to a tablet distributor who was good enough to create download links and instructions on how to use the hokey Chinese installer. The question is though, is your problem hardware or a botched ROM?
It does not have Bluetooth or GPS. My Archos outdoes it in that way, but it is a true quad-core retina display and mine works very nicely... nicer now that I have the better use of the resolution available. Its wildly vivid. I honestly can find no real issues other than a few I had from not wiping the thing before I flashed it (oddly it suggested I not do so... which caused me grief w/Google Play eventually). It comes rooted, and if you have one of those that are like partly-rooted or whatever some call it, do a factory reset and it will come back fully rooted. The ROMs of course are all rooted. I have a cheap 10.2", which honestly if I had not had something else would have given me ulcers, but hey... I only paid $14 for it from Quibids (including bid prices), so I can't complain. This one cost me around $150 with a few extras, so a little grief I can handle. But so far... those are interesting words... so far, it is actually very impressive. My daughter has a boyfriend who is an Apple fanatic, and he's kind of fixated on it from certain similarities to what he is coveting these days.
I have it going at 1.2ghz (quad-core), although I have gotten it up to just under the 1.5ghz it claims (1440). It will do it, but I wouldn't bet on its stability. It comes at 1.0 preset from manufacturer, but is easily changed with the cpu app of your choice. I use Setcpu... works for me. It has 2gb ram... can't complain.
I read some arguments on the cameras, but I don't see it... I took some pics tonight of my daughter on her way to a costume party... they are the best thing I have this side of my Kodak. I'm sure it takes better video than the Kodak though. Anyway... its responsive, sharp, and does what I want. You have to buy a Bluetooth dongle for next to nothing to have Bluetooth though for some bizarre reason it shows its there. The one page that I mentioned gives advice along with pics on how to do some interesting mods to it. It is capable of more than they shipped it with. I am sorry that you are having troubles with yours... I don't know if you still have yours or not. I've only had this a few weeks. If you are interested, let me know... and if the moderators allow it, I will post links.
I hate that you have had such grief with yours. If I can help, I am willing.
MTCB/C 2GB RAM User's Thread - First Impressions With 2GB, Q&A & 2GB RAM Discussion
After the two 2GB RAM group buys, this thread is for comments and discussion on units with 2GB RAM retro fitted.
User's thread? OK.
I want to propose alternative chip for MTC(/) upgrade (not IM8G16D3FBBG).
What you can say about this chips (similar spec and lower cost)?
MT41K512M16HA-107 IT
MT41K512M16HA-125 IT
(You can find it on offical site -micron\com)
I'm not test him yet. I would to know your (community) opinions and suggestions at the expense of compatibility.
P.S.: sry again for my owful English.
RealVaVa said:
User's thread? OK.
I want to propose alternative chip for MTC(/) upgrade (not IM8G16D3FBBG).
What you can say about this chips (similar spec and lower cost)?
MT41K512M16HA-107 IT
MT41K512M16HA-125 IT
(You can find it on offical site -micron\com)
I'm not test him yet. I would to know your (community) opinions and suggestions at the expense of compatibility.
P.S.: sry again for my owful English.
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This thread is for people who have fitted the RAM already !!
Post in the group buy thread please - people there are looking to buy so it will be relevant, it is not relevant here, thanks.
Just got in running in a Hot Audio MCU 1.93 MTCD unit (running Malaysk) in an Outlander 2016 PHEV.
I have the full face unit, not the 7 inch replacement but the 8inch full panel replacement.
I have a friend out of the phone business who solders IC's for me and aked him to do it.
It's hard work.
I paid him 30 euro's (because it's not commercial) but normally he would charge around 100,- for a job like this.
After refitting the unit in car it wouldn't but.
Mistake 1: I attached the flat cable of the screen on the wrong conector (9/10 inch instead of 8 inch).
After that, I connected it to the right one. Unit still dead.
Kept pressing the poer button, unit flashed 3 times (reset) and booted just fine!
And wow, what a difference!!!
Finally can use the unit without lag/delays/crashes.
Tried Google maps and Sygic wich didn't run good with 1GB and used it without any problems!
It was quite an ivestement:
60 dollars for 2GB
30 euro's + 2 times 4 euro's shipment
So all together around 100 dollars to upgrade only 1GB (from 1GB > 2GB), but glad I did it...!
dude-nl said:
Just got in running in a Hot Audio MCU 1.93 MTCD unit (running Malaysk) in an Outlander 2016 PHEV.
I have the full face unit, not the 7 inch replacement but the 8inch full panel replacement.
I have a friend out of the phone business who solders IC's for me and aked him to do it.
It's hard work.
I paid him 30 euro's (because it's not commercial) but normally he would charge around 100,- for a job like this.
After refitting the unit in car it wouldn't but.
Mistake 1: I attached the flat cable of the screen on the wrong conector (9/10 inch instead of 8 inch).
After that, I connected it to the right one. Unit still dead.
Kept pressing the poer button, unit flashed 3 times (reset) and booted just fine!
And wow, what a difference!!!
Finally can use the unit without lag/delays/crashes.
Tried Google maps and Sygic wich didn't run good with 1GB and used it without any problems!
It was quite an ivestement:
60 dollars for 2GB
30 euro's + 2 times 4 euro's shipment
So all together around 100 dollars to upgrade only 1GB (from 1GB > 2GB), but glad I did it...!
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Cool !
Really need to get round to getting mine fitted.
TLDR - fantastic - solves app slow downs/lag and UI response (lag) issues.
I can say having just had the memory replaced with a 2GB upgrade, the upgrade resolved stuttering and slow downs. Prior to upgrading lag was typical and pronounced at cold boot. Having to wait for the device to settle before opening navigation was annoying.
The upgrade was noticable from first boot - immediately responsive UI, able to open multiple apps such as google maps, igo, youtube all without any lag whatsoever.
Question is - is it worth doing now that there is the potential to swap out the SOM rk3 to rk5 with 2gb - this is yet to be proven but the video I saw on youtube posted by hotaudio suggests this is a direct swap.
In my opinion the upgrade is probably not cost effective if a new SOM RK5/2gb board is available or where there is zero tax/import duty for a new unit.
If you have access to professional, skilled BGA soldering at a low cost then probably. It is a risk and will need to make this assessment for your situation.
All that said - go for it! Pic to follow.
marchnz said:
Question is - is it worth doing now that there is the potential to swap out the SOM rk3 to rk5 with 2gb - this is yet to be proven but the video I saw on youtube posted by hotaudio suggests this is a direct swap.
In my opinion the upgrade is probably not cost effective if a new SOM RK5/2gb board is available or where there is zero tax/import duty for a new unit.
If you have access to professional, skilled BGA soldering at a low cost then probably. It is a risk and will need to make this assessment for your situation.
All that said - go for it! Pic to follow.
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I did point that out when @dsa8310 posted about Klyde's octacore units back in October, but I ve not heard anything about them since . . . til your post. Back then it was speculation whether youd be able to swap the SoM as you could with the RK3066 to the RK3188, good to hear that you can. From what I ve read the octacore units also have a different, combined wifi and BT module, wonder if that ll work ok on the RK3066/RK3188 motherboards.
I d say the xtra RAM was more cost effective than a new SoM, in 2015 the cost fro an RK3188 SoM was about $90-120, not sure what it is now. Think I d stick with the RK3188 and 2GB . . . on the other hand MM would be better than L, hmm.
I guess the RK3188 night get an upgrade to MM, the RK3066 got an upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 after the RK3188 came out.
EDIT: the ones in HOTaudio's video are MTCD, thinking about it yours is too isnt it ? My comments were re: MTCB/C units.
typos1 said:
I did point that out when @dsa8310 posted about Klyde's octacore units back in October, but I ve not heard anything about them since . . . til your post. Back then it was speculation whether youd be able to swap the SoM as you could with the RK3066 to the RK3188, good to hear that you can. From what I ve read the octacore units also have a different, combined wifi and BT module, wonder if that ll work ok on the RK3066/RK3188 motherboards.
I d say the xtra RAM was more cost effective than a new SoM, in 2015 the cost fro an RK3188 SoM was about $90-120, not sure what it is now. Think I d stick with the RK3188 and 2GB . . . on the other hand MM would be better than L, hmm.
I guess the RK3188 night get an upgrade to MM, the RK3066 got an upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 after the RK3188 came out.
EDIT: the ones in HOTaudio's video are MTCD, thinking about it yours is too isnt it ? My comments were re: MTCB/C units.
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Hi,
Yes MTCD - here's the video swapping out an MTCD SOM
https://youtu.be/8smMyEOMYU8
Quite right that the MTC*B* is absolutely worthy of the upgrade - the MTCD is questionable on the basis the new PX5 module is available. I approached the hotaudio guy on these forums and have been advised he cant supply the SOM. Hopefully a matter of time for MTCD users as has least risk.
Thanks mate.
marchnz said:
TLDR - fantastic - solves app slow downs/lag and UI response (lag) issues.
I can say having just had the memory replaced with a 2GB upgrade, the upgrade resolved stuttering and slow downs. Prior to upgrading lag was typical and pronounced at cold boot. Having to wait for the device to settle before opening navigation was annoying.
The upgrade was noticable from first boot - immediately responsive UI, able to open multiple apps such as google maps, igo, youtube all without any lag whatsoever.
Question is - is it worth doing now that there is the potential to swap out the SOM rk3 to rk5 with 2gb - this is yet to be proven but the video I saw on youtube posted by hotaudio suggests this is a direct swap.
In my opinion the upgrade is probably not cost effective if a new SOM RK5/2gb board is available or where there is zero tax/import duty for a new unit.
If you have access to professional, skilled BGA soldering at a low cost then probably. It is a risk and will need to make this assessment for your situation.
All that said - go for it! Pic to follow.
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I'm curious, what heatsink did you attach to the RK3188 there? Do you have a link to the purchase page?
marchnz said:
Hi,
Yes MTCD - here's the video swapping out an MTCD SOM
https://youtu.be/8smMyEOMYU8
Quite right that the MTC*B* is absolutely worthy of the upgrade - the MTCD is questionable on the basis the new PX5 module is available. I approached the hotaudio guy on these forums and have been advised he cant supply the SOM. Hopefully a matter of time for MTCD users as has least risk.
Thanks mate.
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It may also be possible to swap the SoM on MTCC units, we dont know til someone buys a Klyde PX5 device.
gumanov said:
I'm curious, what heatsink did you attach to the RK3188 there? Do you have a link to the purchase page?
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MTCDs usually come with heat sinks.
gumanov said:
I'm curious, what heatsink did you attach to the RK3188 there? Do you have a link to the purchase page?
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Yes, I purchased a heatsink with thermal adhesive and use kernel adiutor to set performance cpu governor. For my initial 2gb upgrade tests I disabled kernel adiutor, running a stock governor.
The newer intel and px5 units have a factory heatsink.
marchnz said:
Yes, I purchased a heatsink with thermal adhesive and use kernel adiutor to set performance cpu governor. For my initial 2gb upgrade tests I disabled kernel adiutor, running a stock governor.
The newer intel and px5 units have a factory heatsink.
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Where did you buy the heatsink from? Do you have a link?
marchnz said:
Yes, I purchased a heatsink with thermal adhesive and use kernel adiutor to set performance cpu governor. For my initial 2gb upgrade tests I disabled kernel adiutor, running a stock governor.
The newer intel and px5 units have a factory heatsink.
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Oh, I thought all MTCDs came with heatsinks, although having thoguht about it I think it may be Sofia MTCDs with them.
Kernel Auditur works well then ? Did you find the cpu was throttled as standard ?
typos1 said:
Oh, I thought all MTCDs came with heatsinks, although having thoguht about it I think it may be Sofia MTCDs with them.
Kernel Auditur works well then ? Did you find the cpu was throttled as standard ?
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Hi,
Yes quite throttled - the stock governor restricts CPU ramping to 1.6 - see here https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../massive-lag-performance-improvement-t3480078 (and end of thread.). Another thread exists discussing heatsinks in depth with some curious examples.
Hi!
I am about to get my 2GB RAM fitted into my MTCC device.
Can you please confirm if the unit recognizes 2GB of RAM automatically after BGA replacing of the original ones?
The guy from the company that will make the BGA replacement told me that usually with chips replacement some kind of reprogramming is necessary (I suppose thay usually replace chips on graphic cards).
From all I found on this forum I assumed the unit will recognize RAM automatically.
Or he is right and there is more to it and I should expect more problems after ram replacement?
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
ttoton said:
Hi!
I am about to get my 2GB RAM fitted into my MTCC device.
Can you please confirm if the unit recognizes 2GB of RAM automatically after BGA replacing of the original ones?
The guy from the company that will make the BGA replacement told me that usually with chips replacement some kind of reprogramming is necessary (I suppose thay usually replace chips on graphic cards).
From all I found on this forum I assumed the unit will recognize RAM automatically.
Or he is right and there is more to it and I should expect more problems after ram replacement?
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
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All computers will recognise new RAM (as long as its up to the max amount it can recognise) automatically, theyre talking nonsense.
Thanks, @typos1 . Will get back with results after fitting in.
Hi!
Just wanted to report, that my MTCC RK3188 unit has just been upgraded to 2 GB.
Modification by a BGA repair specialist took about 1 hour and costed about 50 EUR.
Unit booted without any problems, right after turning ignition on.
The difference is night and day on 5.1.1 booroondook ROM!
No more freezing. Everything is smooth, all google apps now run normally and start withing few seconds (before - about 30-60 seconds - enought to make you want to smash the unit). And Spotify finally can be comfortably used with any navigation app without choking the unit.
At last the unit is almost all I expect from such a unit.
Highly recommended upgrade!
ttoton said:
Hi!
Just wanted to report, that my MTCC RK3188 unit has just been upgraded to 2 GB.
Modification by a BGA repair specialist took about 1 hour and costed about 50 EUR.
Unit booted without any problems, right after turning ignition on.
The difference is night and day on 5.1.1 booroondook ROM!
No more freezing. Everything is smooth, all google apps now run normally and start withing few seconds (before - about 30-60 seconds - enought to make you want to smash the unit). And Spotify finally can be comfortably used with any navigation app without choking the unit.
At last the unit is almost all I expect from such a unit.
Highly recommended upgrade!
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Cool, glad to hear its gone well !
ttoton said:
Hi!
Just wanted to report, that my MTCC RK3188 unit has just been upgraded to 2 GB.
Modification by a BGA repair specialist took about 1 hour and costed about 50 EUR.
Unit booted without any problems, right after turning ignition on.
The difference is night and day on 5.1.1 booroondook ROM!
No more freezing. Everything is smooth, all google apps now run normally and start withing few seconds (before - about 30-60 seconds - enought to make you want to smash the unit). And Spotify finally can be comfortably used with any navigation app without choking the unit.
At last the unit is almost all I expect from such a unit.
Highly recommended upgrade!
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Where did you buy the RAMs? Could you give me a link. I want to make 2 gb of mtcc device. Thank you.