Now that MPK99 retired from LineageOS development for the RM Note 10, the question is if anybody else is able to continue what he has been developing so far?
The demand for LineageOS is definitely there, because no other ROM is that much privacy oriented and the discontinued ROM Is leaving a big gap for this Phone.
For the long term an official LOS is what would be the best for the phone.
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Now that MPK99 retired from LineageOS development for the RM Note 10, the question is if anybody else is able to continue what he has been developing so far?
The demand for LineageOS is definitely there, because no other ROM is that much privacy oriented and the discontinued ROM Is leaving a big gap for this Phone.
For the long term an official LOS is what would be the best for the phone.
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rumor there are someone to continues developing a LOS ,
+1 for LineageOS. All these no name roms currently being developed comes with high risk. LineageOS is well known and I'd prefer it over others.
Unless Lineage OS is official, it is on par with all other custom ROMs. There is no difference in risk here.
A halt in development would also mean a partial halt in the development of all Lineage OS-based ROMs.
Our phone is significantly widespread and would definitely deserve an official Lineage OS.
I'm dying to flash a custom ROM on my device, however, I'd rather wait either for TWRP to at least get an official update to deal with Android 11 quirks, or for LineageOS to get the official status, whichever comes first
Merry Xmas everyone!
it's been quite some time since the last post here. unfortunately there haven't been any news about lineageos for the redmi note 10 anywhere. it almost seems like the lineage community has abandoned this phone.
As time passes by, the current versions are getting outdated and become a security risk for it's users.
This leaves us with only two options in the long term: sell the phone and buy one with more lineage options, or upgrade to one of the thousand lookalike other ROMs with less privacy options. both options aren't ideal imho.
I still haven't lost all hope for this phone, though, now that there is an official version of TWRP (https://twrp.me/xiaomi/xiaomiredminote10.html), there might be someone behind the scenes working on an official LineageOS as well.
Is there any standard way to get the Lineage OS team to start working on an official version for our phone (such as the amount of inquiries from phone users on their site)?
I'd love to have Lineage OS, but it seems devs are more interested in "noname" roms. idk why tho
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Is there any standard way to get the Lineage OS team to start working on an official version for our phone (such as the amount of inquiries from phone users on their site)?
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unfortunately not.
it's the community here that has to build the LOS rom, it's only going official when there are certain standards met and it's getting continuously maintained.
see here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/device_requests
i might be wrong, but so far, there have only ever been 2 or 3 people working on and releasing a LineageOS ROM for this phone.
Development continues in the form of ROMs based on Lineage OS. It's just not a pure form of that system. The fact that it is the basis for other ROMs that are maintained here could also be the impetus for separate development and updates.
By Lineage OS:
Perhaps the only somewhat reliable indicator of whether a device may be officially supported is when a developer’s hard work in bringing-up a device is forked over to github.com/LineageOS. Notice, this is after a developer (or regular Joe, see below) puts in the time and effort to get LineageOS running reliably. There’s still no guarantee of official support at this point; the device needs to meet a number of quality control checklist items and the developer needs to agree to maintain the device over time. But, there’s at least a decent chance.
Hi! i just built latest LineageOS 18.1 for our device ... i'm planning to release once i'm sure that aren't major issues on the ROM
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By Lineage OS:
Perhaps the only somewhat reliable indicator of whether a device may be officially supported is when a developer’s hard work in bringing-up a device is forked over to github.com/LineageOS. Notice, this is after a developer (or regular Joe, see below) puts in the time and effort to get LineageOS running reliably. There’s still no guarantee of official support at this point; the device needs to meet a number of quality control checklist items and the developer needs to agree to maintain the device over time. But, there’s at least a decent chance.
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exactly, that's what I meant with:
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it's the community here that has to build the LOS rom, it's only going official when there are certain standards met and it's getting continuously maintained.
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it's just that obviously there are not enough people having this phone. And amongst them not enough that are capable (having knowledge AND time) of building and configuring the ROM.
The more I'm delighted about this message
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Hi! i just built latest LineageOS 18.1 for our device ... i'm planning to release once i'm sure that aren't major issues on the ROM
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..and once again, I'll be glad to anything that you(and probably others) can bring to the LOS-RM10 table!
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... it's just that obviously there are not enough people having this phone ...
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I don't share your conviction. Few phones have had such a tumultuous custom ROM evolution in their early days as ours. To date, the Pixel Experience Plus has been downloaded from the internet roughly 4300 times.
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I don't share your conviction. Few phones have had such a tumultuous custom ROM evolution in their early days as ours. To date, the Pixel Experience Plus has been downloaded from the internet roughly 4300 times.
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well yes and no, it depends, I was thinking esp. of the LOS ROM development on this phone, not general aosp/pixel-like rom development.
yet, f.i. compared to a Poco X3 NFC this is ALL just peanuts... -> much more phones of the poco x3 were sold, it has a much greater user and developer base, and hence much more ROMs came out and amongst them also an official LOS ROM.
While I dislike complaining about the lack of contributors volunteering their hours for free, I got say it's been a little frustrating seeing dozens of roms being ported to our device, but still no LineageOS.
Is there any explanation for this? From my previous experiences with Custom ROMs, LineageOS was the the most famous one, and devs would jump at the opportunity the officially bring it to a new device, rather than choosing other custom ROMs.
I consider Lineage OS to be the best basic OS. However, ordinary users are calling more for extended systems, so the base system itself doesn't appeal to them much. The basic system is more suitable for us who can customize it to our own requirements, and the extended systems have unnecessary features for us. There used to be fewer extended systems and therefore more demand for the basic ones.
The Poco X3 NFC was unveiled on Monday, September 7, 2020.
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 was unveiled on Thursday, March 4, 2021.
The initial selling price of the POCO was double that of the RM10. There must also be a difference in the number of units sold for comparable goods for different sales period. I think comparing these devices is not relevant.
Among comparable devices in terms of price and hardware, the RM10 is unrivalled in developer support. Thank them for their work.
Lineage OS as the default system for many other ROMs, however, deserves more attention on its own. If it is in top form, the other extended systems will be better off as well.
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The Poco X3 NFC was unveiled on Monday, September 7, 2020.
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 was unveiled on Thursday, March 4, 2021.
The initial selling price of the POCO was double that of the RM10. There must also be a difference in the number of units sold for comparable goods for different sales period. I think comparing these devices is not relevant.
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by the time I bought the RM10 (about summer 2021) the poco x3 nfc and the RM10 were about the same price in the local stores over here (like 160€ vs 180€). That's almost about the same price and I took that as reference, not the initial price.
well now, it's passed almost half a year now and unfortunately I still don't see any lineageOS development going on over here. I'm still wondering why there is so much AOSP development going on on this phone, whilst a privacy oriented ROM like lineageOS seems to be completely ignored. Where are the privacy focused people on this phone? It seems like nobody uses this phone that also cares about these matters.
However, I did some searching and I found something like a forked and continued LineageOS ROM on 4pda. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with russian language and I can't figure out if anything from there is something like a trustworthy source.
I really don't understand how the hell the device has an active community with a bunch of Roms, but no LineageOS, not even unofficial. It's only AOSP/Pixel and ROMs based on LineageOS.
Based on my previous experience, devs would jump on the opportunity to port LineageOS, so it just baffles me it is taking this long.
i would be happy to build LineageOS for you but i don't have server at the moment and my pc is a dual-core one
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In the past:
processors were minimal (custom kernels and overclocking with CM helped fill in the gaps)
bloatware choked performance due to lack of space (CM eliminated bloatware)
GUI's were clunky and unintuitive (simplicity of CM, i.e. basic Android, was a necessity)
manufacturers added no value with their launchers and modifications (CM eliminated the manufacturer's oft ill conceived changes)
software updates lagged far behind Google updates.
And now:
processors work as is
space is plentiful, bloatware is not an issue
GUI's actually work
manufacturers are adding functionality
software updates are more current with Google changes.
So, I have to ask, what does CM bring to the table? When I put it on the Note 2, CM eliminated functionality without adding any improvements. I can't see where it would add anything to the Sony Xperia Ultra. I can see how it would take functionality away just like it did with the Note 2.
CM has redefined itself as an operating system. Its goal is to be the operating system for hardware manufacturers just like Android and Apple. Smart move. The CM we knew is no longer needed. Out of the box Samsung, HTC and Sony premium smart phones actually perform well, are being updated on a regular basis and have manufacturer added value. We have to think of CM as being the OEM operating system, not a replacement for Sony, Samsung and HTC Android operating systems.
CM is adding an app to the play store that will make it easy to install CM to devices. I see that as an acknowledgement to where it came from, not a step to its future. It will not be long before we buy Samsung, Sony and HTC phones with CM as the operating system.
I love Cyanogen. And is my point why I love android.
But unfortunately they trying to support many devices and they lose quality.
I remember how we was happy with G1 to see crazy benchmarking with Cyanogen., now it's lower than stock They said Sony is very friendly with the developers (source etc) but I remember Cyanogen on Xperia Z....it was bad experience I ever taste. And then it was a scandal with Samsung. They promise to stop supporting...... but as you see cyanogen is more business now than love.
And I know many developers who got same opinion as me.
But we still love them and we will love them.
While I agree with a lot of what you say... the note2 was very different. any device that has another piece of hardware that you use with it for a purpose, then CM wont work 'stand alone'. Samsung's note applications were great and thats where CM was left standing and waiting....
With the Ultra, it doesn't have any specific apps that take advantage of the 'sketch' application. There are loads that do the same, and even better on the playstore.
I can see CM being a clean neat feel. However it will need to be cleaner and smoother than the xperia UI for it to be a real advantage to flash.
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While I agree with a lot of what you say... the note2 was very different. any device that has another piece of hardware that you use with it for a purpose, then CM wont work 'stand alone'. Samsung's note applications were great and thats where CM was left standing and waiting....
With the Ultra, it doesn't have any specific apps that take advantage of the 'sketch' application. There are loads that do the same, and even better on the playstore.
I can see CM being a clean neat feel. However it will need to be cleaner and smoother than the xperia UI for it to be a real advantage to flash.
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+1
I don't know, I prefer AOSP, so even if there's nothing else offered by CM, I'd still rather run it than Sony's ROM (not that this phone has a bad ROM; in fact, I've been surprisingly happy with it out of the box).
I'm not a fan of any manufacturer skin out there, so CM is what i flash when i want a "pure" and light ROM. It's all about looks and feel for me, and since CM is a barebone experience, i can make it my own from scratch. I have a Galaxy Note, and i've used CM on it for the past 15 months. I quickly noticed that i didn't use any of Samsung's bloatware or any other Samsung features, so why should i have to deal with it? Why should i let that crap run in the background? I'd rather just flash something that's completely "naked" from the start, and install and modify the things I WANT and need, not what Samsung want, or Sony, or HTC etc.
Granted, Sony isn't that bad when it comes to their custom skin. It's pretty light, and they haven't given Disco Stu a job as a UI designer (cough, Samsung), so i guess i'll keep my Ultra (soon to arrive) pretty stock in the beginning, and just install Nova when i've had enough of Sony's launcher. When i'm sick and tired of the whole Sony experience, i'll move on to CM.
CM of the past is gone?
i agree, because its moving to the future... cyanogenmod inc. ftw!
I do understand what the OP trying to say about the past. Because we needed so much modification to the software to make the phone run smoothly, and Android was very fragmented when it came to finding apps for your purpose. I had the HTC Desire PVT4, and my dad PVT1 with S-OFF and it was so much fun! This was when Android and the community was at it's best!
But today Android is more stable, it runs more independent, It's a lot faster. BUT what I get from it is the clean look, the speed and stability.
And I get my chance to customize my phone to my taste. Not how SONY want it, or HTC want it or how Samsung want to brag about their animations and proprietary apps. If someone tries to make a phonecall from my device, they can't..because they are not familiar to the look of my device and that's a good thing because I have a taste. I don't want the guy on the bus sitting next to me or behing me to have the exact same UI and wallpaper as me!!
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CM of the past is gone?
i agree, because its moving to the future... cyanogenmod inc. ftw!
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Even this post of mine that i'm typing in the present is now in the past.
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Even this post of mine that i'm typing in the present is now in the past.
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lol:good:
But the one click installation is nice!!
Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right?
https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/1jzpZRMoMCL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
While it doesn't matter too much, still, screw you google, I paid the same as an iPad 4 and those are still being supported
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Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right? ...
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You are correct assuming at least one Dev likes the device enough to keep pumping out updates to their ROM. I had an ancient Galaxy Tab P-1000, given to me by a relative still in the original box. That tab came with Android Gingerbread. An XDA Dev was still supporting it with a ROM which had Android 4.3 (now maybe even more recent). So if that can be a guide then as long as there is at least one Dev and the hardware can handle the OS then you have hope of Android M and beyond.
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You are correct assuming at least one Dev likes the device enough to keep pumping out updates to their ROM. I had an ancient Galaxy Tab P-1000, given to me by a relative still in the original box. That tab came with Android Gingerbread. An XDA Dev was still supporting it with a ROM which had Android 4.3 (now maybe even more recent). So if that can be a guide then as long as there is at least one Dev and the hardware can handle the OS then you have hope of Android M and beyond.
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But if Google doesn't provide aosp images for a device, how does an interested developer begin to build a custom ROM? Just asking because I'm ignorant about android development.
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But if Google doesn't provide aosp images for a device, how does an interested developer begin to build a custom ROM? Just asking because I'm ignorant about android development.
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Images are compiled versions of the code. Google publishes AOSP code to the public (including the upcoming Android-M). The hardware "blobs" are proprietary (interface between HW e.g. WiFi radio) and software. I believe that a Dev would use the latest "blob" they can get along with the latest AOSP code to compile and create a ROM (set of images). The "blobs" would not be updated more than an older official release. I do not make my own ROMs so am a little hazy on all the details but ROMs definitely use the public AOSP code before adding alterations.
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Images are compiled versions of the code. Google publishes AOSP code to the public (including the upcoming Android-M). The hardware "blobs" are proprietary (interface between HW e.g. WiFi radio) and software. I believe that a Dev would use the latest "blob" they can get along with the latest AOSP code to compile and create a ROM (set of images). The "blobs" would not be updated more than an older official release. I do not make my own ROMs so am a little hazy on all the details but ROMs definitely use the public AOSP code before adding alterations.
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Sound good. Let's hope this proves to be the case for the Nexus 10.
Once again, I'm not buying the Nexus device. Long live Apple!
IOS 9 incoming for iphone 4s
Damn google!
perfect_ said:
Once again, I'm not buying the Nexus device. Long live Apple!
IOS 9 incoming for iphone 4s
Damn google!
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But you should consider the great variety of ROMs that we've been able to choose from, and the degree of freedom we've enjoyed in customising our systems.
On your iPhone, you're locked into iOS, with no system-level access, and nowhere else to go.
Sooner or later, your iPhone 4s will stop being officially supported by Apple. At that point, your device will truly become obsolete, while older Nexus devices will probably continue to receive updates through community effort.
well, that's disappointing, considering how mine is still rocking, and used pretty much every single day since launch.
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well, that's disappointing, considering how mine is still rocking, and used pretty much every single day since launch.
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I'm in the same boat. It will be a sad day once the device is not supported.
I have always had random reboots. A lot less frequent with each update. About a month ago my battery took a hit (not physical, no idea what happened) and now my battery only gets about half the amount of screen time between charges. Even with these 2 issues I still love and use the device every day. I am all about the latest android updates and the nexus line is the only way to go with those priorities. Looked into the n9 but disappointed in the battery life (around 5 hours.. The same I currently get on my n10 with half the amount it had when new).
Not sure where to go for my tablet needs if no new tablet is released this year... Which sounds like the case. I love the sock android experience without the bugs of cm or cm based Roms.... And if I did want to go with the cm route it runs best on Nexus. I have the n6 so the n7 feels too small.
It has been a great ride n10 and you will never be forgotten in my books....
I'm no stranger to unsupported devices. My last tablet was an HP TouchPad. lol. Wether Google gives the Nexus 10 Android M or not, Im sure we will still be able to run it unofficially thanks to the devs.
I'm not giving up on M yet. The Nexus 4 didn't get the L preview but still got Lollipop. The N10 has gotten quite a bit of love from Google so we shall see.
As we all remember, the Nexus 4 did not get the Android L developer's preview but it still got Lollipop when it went publicly available.
Cross your fingers for Nexus 10 support.
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As we all remember, the Nexus 4 did not get the Android L developer's preview but it still got Lollipop when it went publicly available.
Cross your fingers for Nexus 10 support.
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Why the N4 compare? Nexus 10 didn't get the L preview, but got Lollipop.
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I'm not giving up on M yet. The Nexus 4 didn't get the L preview but still got Lollipop. The N10 has gotten quite a bit of love from Google so we shall see.
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You preview the latest and greatest. Google would have been stupid to give the N10 or N4 a preview of L/M. I'm honestly surprised the 5 got an M build, but as a hammerhead owner, I'm not complaining.
Also, nobody panic, BUT...... https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/
The manta has a m-preview tag. To be fair, so does grouper, and I doubt grouper will see M. Though honestly, after using M for a day it seems to be a fine-tuning of L, nothing too crazy. I don't see why the manta couldn't handle M. Also interesting is that no announcement of the Nexus Update Policy was made at I/O. Google might have backpedaled. We shall see...
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You preview the latest and greatest. Google would have been stupid to give the N10 or N4 a preview of L/M. I'm honestly surprised the 5 got an M build, but as a hammerhead owner, I'm not complaining.
Also, nobody panic, BUT...... https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/
The manta has a m-preview tag. To be fair, so does grouper, and I doubt grouper will see M. Though honestly, after using M for a day it seems to be a fine-tuning of L, nothing too crazy. I don't see why the manta couldn't handle M. Also interesting is that no announcement of the Nexus Update Policy was made at I/O. Google might have backpedaled. We shall see...
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EDIT!!!!!: That tag has an honest-to-goodness commit, manta-specific, based on M. I can only assume it's also on the mnc-dev branch. Mako also has a MNC kernel commit. The N10 might actually, officially see M!
I hit reply instead of edit, but oh well. It's worth it.
Let's see how it goes... I'm still on 4.4.4. Didn't want to update to L due to the wifi bug with eduroam. Patiently waiting for M for my beloved Nexus 10.
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Almost 30 months of major support isn't bad, but what annoys me is that Google hasn't fixed the Wifi issue on Lollipop...Oh well, if the GNex can still handle 5.1 custom ROMs, the Nexus 10 can, right?
https://plus.google.com/+DerekRoss/posts/1jzpZRMoMCL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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I don't see anything concrete but rumours. Until M is released and if nothing is announced beforehand from Google, don't believe anything else.
I now that from time to time this device has had is share of Wi-Fi issues but for the most part mine connects fairly well to my router.
Here is a quick screen shot showing what I am connected at on 2.4ghz it gets even better on 5ghz, sometimes....
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And on Android Enterprise site it shows G6 official OS is Android 8.0.0
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Looks like it will go straight to 8.1
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That could be a game changer if it was announced at the start. But, everyone knows they will give people 1 major and maybe 2 security update then, they keep promising for next major update as they did at G4 but that next major version will never come out globally. I see this news as "meh".
Plus, "LG Electronics USA, Inc. today announced that the LG V30 and LG G6 premium smartphones available in the United States will earn "Android Enterprise Recommended" approval in a new Google-led program, following an upgrade to Android 8.1."
Can we assume it will stay as a local feature and will never go global?
I think it's global since they came out with this in Poland too.
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I don't know whether or not this would apply to the United States too, but LG Canada says March 2 - 9 for the Oreo update.
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That could be a game changer if it was announced at the start. But, everyone knows they will give people 1 major and maybe 2 security update then, they keep promising for next major update as they did at G4 but that next major version will never come out globally. I see this news as "meh".
Plus, "LG Electronics USA, Inc. today announced that the LG V30 and LG G6 premium smartphones available in the United States will earn "Android Enterprise Recommended" approval in a new Google-led program, following an upgrade to Android 8.1."
Can we assume it will stay as a local feature and will never go global?
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Now they keep on updating every single version of this phone. And lg Poland replayed yesterday to me that I won't be disappointed (REPLAYED AT NIGHT)
Let see if it's for all G6s and V30s or only for selected models for business use...
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Let see if it's for all G6s and V30s or only for selected models for business use...
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So according to the program we all should known the truth around 5th of April.( or earlier)
One requisit is to have adt least one unlockeable version, so the usa unlocked version and european h870 are likely to enter for sure to this program.
The program means also that security updates are issued each at most 90 days.
Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
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Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
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I'm not sure if G6 has needed partition that is needed for Project Tremble. But let's hope it does.
ric84 said:
Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
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I want to belive !
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I'm not sure if G6 has needed partition that is needed for Project Tremble. But let's hope it does.
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If there isn't LG can always create it, it's a partition after all...
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Just kidding, I wish this stuff was 100% true. We will see. Fingers crossed.
Let's see then, I sure hope for a timely and bug free (hello samsung) update to 8.0.
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I'm a little bit skeptical about the reality of this. Right now it's good publicity for the phones without them having to actually do anything. The G6 is almost a year old and if it never gets beyond 8.0 or even if it gets dropped from the list after 6 months because of not complying with some part of it, no big deal for them because it's late in the phone's lifecycle anyway.
If it bumps up sales enough that they will show it some more update love, great. But the G6 faces the same uphill battle in the enterprise as they do with the consumer and I don't think there's any compelling reason a big enterprise would choose it over the latest Samsung or iphone (smaller companies might choose it based on cost).
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I'm a little bit skeptical about the reality of this. Right now it's good publicity for the phones without them having to actually do anything. The G6 is almost a year old and if it never gets beyond 8.0 or even if it gets dropped from the list after 6 months because of not complying with some part of it, no big deal for them because it's late in the phone's lifecycle anyway.
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I am sure Google had some chat with LG on the matter before including G6 on the list. I am also sure that LG cares about bothering Google with some cheap tricks. It's not that LG cares about you or me but they surely care about Google. I also hope that Google doens't just do free false advertising in LG behalf, they are a bit cleverer than this. The relationship LG-Google is not about G6 being late in it's lifecycle but about all the next phones. After all Google "guarantees" for LG in front of a lot of very serious clients (businesses). That's rather big deal.
it's sad how LG went from being the fastest to update their phones to now one of the slowest. I remember getting Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat so quickly on the G4, G5, and V10. Now LG is slower than Samsung, which is the worst/slowest updater. Samsung re-released Oreo for the S8 in Europe. Oreo was released 6 months ago (August 21, 2017). Google will announce Android P before we get Oreo on the G6. I guess LG's restructuring of the cell phone department deprioritized OS updates in addition to annual device releases.
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it's sad how LG went from being the fastest to update their phones to now one of the slowest. I remember getting Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat so quickly on the G4, G5, and V10. Now LG is slower than Samsung, which is the worst/slowest updater. Samsung re-released Oreo for the S8 in Europe. Oreo was released 6 months ago (August 21, 2017). Google will announce Android P before we get Oreo on the G6. I guess LG's restructuring of the cell phone department deprioritized OS updates in addition to annual device releases.
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Samsung still slow, they have so many problems with Oreo
https://www.gsmarena.com/heres_why_samsung_stopped_the_oreo_update_for_the_galaxy_s8-news-29645.php
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Today (21 feb) Google has launched a new program called Android Enterprise Recommended. It's a way for businesses to easily choose Android devices to deploy for their employees. To be Android Enterprise Recommended, a handset has to adhere to a strict set of rules.
It must run Android 7.0 Nougat or later, offer zero-touch enrollment with bulk deployment to employees, get the latest security patches within 90 days of their release for a minimum of three years, be available unlocked, and offer a consistent app experience in managed profiles and on managed devices.
Furthermore, it must come with a minimum of 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, a 1.4 GHz processor, 8+ hours of active battery life, a 10 MP main camera and 2 MP selfie shooter, and be updated to at least one major new Android version.
To start things off, the Android Enterprise Recommended list of devices comprises the following: Google's Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, and Pixel 2 XL; the BlackBerry Keyone and Motion; Huawei's Mate 10, Mate 10 Pro, P10, P10 Plus, P10 Lite, and P smart; LG's V30 and G6; the Moto X4 and Z2; the Nokia 8; Sony's Xperia XZ1, XZ1 Compact, XZ Premium, XA2, and XA2 Ultra.
As you can see, it's not all flagships, there are a few mid-rangers for eager enterprises to choose from too. More phones should be added to the list in the coming weeks and months. Google says that by the end of the year it will also apply the Android Enterprise Recommended framework to OEMs of dedicated and rugged devices, mobile carriers, enterprise mobility management providers, and systems integrators.
The company is probably hoping to entice device makers with this program to adhere to its rules and thus be featured on the brand new Android Enterprise Recommended website, something that will hopefully lead to more sales of those models.
https://www.android.com/enterprise/recommended/
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I could be chosen as Honor 20 beta tester because I'm so much into Honor and Huawei devices :
I currently had experiences on Honor 9, Honor 10, Honor 8x, Huawei P20, Huawei Mate20 Pro, Huawei Mediapad T5 and Huawei Matebook X pro.
-So, I could review what this new Honor challenger would bring.
I would be already starting to beta test all that I can if I had one in hands
Contest opens on 5/8/19.
I would love a chance to beta test this device. I was chosen for the View 10 when it released, and loved the device. I even devleoped a few tweaks for it... tho, my last test ended up bricking it, it was certainly one of the best android devices I have ever had the pleasure of playing on
Here's hoping you chose me
I've been a phone enthusiast for 9 years and would love to get my hand on a honor phone.
I'd love to test the EMUi software and compare the various aspects like battery life, performance and the camera quality of the phone itself.
I beta tested the Alcatel Idol 5 about 2 years ago for alcatel, but it alcatel't live up to my expectations. The honor 20 seems quite promising! I never officially reviewed a phone, but I do it all the time for friends and family. Not sure if this is enough reason to be picked, but I hope I have a chance ?
Obviously just like everyone I like to test the amazing Honor 20 series phones especially Pro one. I can provide indepth analysis of the phone and bring this phone's features to everyone who is yet to notice or consider the amazing Honorphones. I think Honor as a phone company deserves much more. I have been covering Honor devices via my youtube channel even in my native language. Hopeful I can be one of the first to do so for Honor 20 pro !!!! I am really hyped for the cameras and obviously the design too !!! Not much of a gamer here but I can promise you I can push the camera to higher possibilities !!! Hope to win
if you choose me , you will have best photo/selfie, review best battery life and gaming review i use meny brands and now i stand on huawei mate 20x
and i know emui very good
I want it
Heavy android user, dissapointed owner of a galaxy s8+ and with overall phone performance in general. Would like to try a phone that really blows my mind in all aspects!
I'm an android fan since 2012.
I love to test drive phones.
My own phone is an a5 2015, which is now almost 4byears old.
I want a new one and this is one of the best.
I'll provide detailed analysis, I have the tech experience to do so.
My name is Stefan. I'm interested in technology since forever. I also write on the Romanian tech blog https://gadget4u.ro since 2015. On the blog I am looking to show people new devices, apps and offer them help with using their electronics or troubleshooting when needed. I am always excited to test and review new stuff!
I have used Honor phones before and really hate their clunky UI. They have made some good progress with EMUI 9 but I still find so many buggy elements in the UX that could be fixed for a better overall experience. By being a part of their Beta program, I will have a better chance of being heard and making an impact on Honor brand to make it super user friendly.
I am a smarthphone and technology entushiast. I want a chance to check this new device and all the improvements of the brand.
Enviado desde mi Mi A2 mediante Tapatalk
Potential of camera
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Honor is getting ready to launch their newest phones known as the Honor 20 series. They are looking for beta testers to review the phone and share their thoughts with the XDA audience. This is your chance to be one of the first people in the world to get their hands on an Honor 20 device. We are going to pick two lucky winners to receive two Honor 20 phones. The winners will then be able to create reviews of these phones featuring videos and pictures, which XDA will incorporate into our official review of the Honor 20 series.
If you enter to be a beta tester, you should have strong English skills and be able to create great written content for your review. If you win, you should be ready to create your review of the phone by the set deadlines, or you can return it to be sent to the next beta tester.
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Honor 20 is marketed as phone with great camera capabilities which I as photographer would be able to review to the great extent and reveal its full potential. Other features of the phone would be of course also thoroughly tested. As student of masters at English in collage, written language won't be problem.
I have strong skills in speaking and writing in English and I breathe, eat and live technology, smartphones and PCs. I am the person my family and friends ask when they want an opinion about which smartphone they should buy of if they have any tech regarded problem. I read and watch many smartphone reviews so I believe I am the man for this
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I really like Honor and Huawei are excellent mobile phones quality price have been improving a lot. I would love to try this new device
I have a strong passion for phones. I always look into the best ones and read reviews. Always looking forward for the next innovative device and I know the Honor 20 is shaping up to be innovative. With it's sleek and smooth hardware design and punch hole cutout, it looks to be a winner. Huawei has been successful with their P30 line of devices and releasing the Honor 20 series give consumers a chance at a great mid-tier device.
Testing phones
I have tested many phones, I am profession photographer and i would like to test this phone because of the camera and the display
I would like to be the beta tester because I have good knowledge about Huawei / Honor Devices and have been contributing to Honor community from many days.
Have used 4c,6x,7x and 10 and got good knowledge of the Honor Products and its EMUI features.Have got around 2500+ posts in the Honor Community in XDA.
Have participated in beta testing of emui 4,5,8,9. Got good experience in reporting bugs in a detailed and proper manner.
Just wrote a long term usage review of honor 10 and would like to do the same for Honor 20 series.
Here is the link for my long term review of honor 10.
https://club.hihonor.com/in/topic/399343/detail.htm
I am someone who loves new tech and keep myself as up to date with the newest gadgets.
I participate actively in helping handset developers fix their issues with detailed instructions on how to replicate issues i come across and use their feedback channels.
Currently I'm most active with Windows and Oneplus, but I use multiple phones for my work. And my second phone could use an upgrade.
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
kenturky said:
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153View attachment 5614611
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
Mackmiller974 said:
They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
AndyYan said:
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
Iluminatus23 said:
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....