Hello,
I'm using a pixel 6 with two cards sim.
When I go to sleep the phone is fully charged and internet/wifi is turned off.
When i wake up i have 88% battery (I lose 1,5% per hour).
In battery use i see Ims Service.
I did a test and in airplane mode the battery loses 2% throughout my sleep.
somebody know how to fix problem?
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Many functions could be causing this. I have used accubattery in the past to see what is causing my drain. A few things to think about, do you have "hey google" and always on display active? I have seen these are large drains in past Pixel devices. It could also be an app that won't let the phone sleep properly.
I am satisfied with the battery consumption. You can easily use the device for 2 days.I am satisfied with the battery consumption. You can easily use the device for 2 days.
Aod off hey google off
1.5%/hr is in the realms of power consumed when in weak cellular coverage. What's the signal strength for each of your SIM's networks?
Also an app or two may be sucking data or keeping the phone out of deep sleep more than it should. You have Bluetooth devices like a watch connected too?
I don't use anything connected via bluetooth. I did not check the signal strength but I live in a big city so it should be ok.
Either way, the impact of low signal strength alone is likely to be similar regardless of the model of phone.
Keep the phone plugged in while sleeping......
Years ago keeping a phone plugged in at 100% battery capacity would actually reduce the battery's life expectancy. However today phones have special charging circuits that actually disconnect the battery from the charging power when it reaches 100%. Once the battery reaches 100%, any power that the charger is providing is directly powering the phone's functions - it does not go through the battery to do this. This means having a phone plugged in for extended periods of time does not reduce the battery's life expectancy anymore.
This may help explain it better....
In the old days.....
When the battery is less than 100% power looks like this:
Charger ---> Battery is taking current --> Battery supplies power to phone function (releasing current)
When the batter is at 100%, power still looks like this:
Charger ---> Battery is taking current --> Battery supplies power to phone function (releasing current)
Today's phones look like this.....
When the battery is less than 100% power looks like this:
Charger ---> Battery is taking current and Charger --> supplies power to phone function
When the battery is at 100%, power looks like this:
Charger ---> supplies power to phone function while the battery is idle (not taking or releasing current)
I don't profess to know about this topic bit have recently installed accubattery where charging the battery to only 80% for example gives less cycles which as a layman I assume would increase the longevity of the battery?
I've just noticed something odd that didn't happen on my P5. From 100% down to around 80 the battery is draining relatively quickly. At 80 it hardly budges. The P5 was steady drain throughout the cycle. I'm going to keep an eye on that one. Curious if anyone else sees that.
As for determining draining apps I've used BBS for years. I look at alarms and partial wakelocks. Overnight anywhere between 0.5 and 0.8% / hour. Same apps same everything the P5 was 0.1 - 0.4. I think it will get better but overall not horrible.
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I don't profess to know about this topic bit have recently installed accubattery where charging the battery to only 80% for example gives less cycles which as a layman I assume would increase the longevity of the battery?
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Yes. The app explains this, saying that the more you charge your battery to 100 the more damage you do to it. Charging to only 80% or whatever amount of power you need is ideal and prolongs the overall health of your battery.
I have similar issues just not Ims service.
Just waiting for a day when I have time to factory reset.
Kag said:
I have similar issues just not Ims service.
Just waiting for a day when I have time to factory reset.
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Try using a battery app to see more detailed information about what's causing battery drain.
Have you taken any steps to try and resolve? How old is your sim card, and what kind of cell reception do you get?
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Try using a battery app to see more detailed information about what's causing battery drain.
Have you taken any steps to try and resolve? How old is your sim card, and what kind of cell reception do you get?
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I thought it was the SIM card and then i moved to eSIM which made no difference.
I generally done nothing to resolve as i started to suspect the drain was due to the migration causing some setting to mess up. I'm thinking of doing a factory reset setup from scratch would help as there were similar problems with Pixel 5 upgrading to Android 12.
Just that the reset will take a lot of time and effort.
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I thought it was the SIM card and then i moved to eSIM which made no difference.
I generally done nothing to resolve as i started to suspect the drain was due to the migration causing some setting to mess up. I'm thinking of doing a factory reset setup from scratch would help as there were similar problems with Pixel 5 upgrading to Android 12.
Just that the reset will take a lot of time and effort.
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It's been reported that a factory reset has helped some folks who had large battery drain or issues with mobile network standby after migrating from their old phone to the new 6. I may attempt as well.
I had a problem with excessive battery consumption, I already know that it was caused by data transfer from my Pixel 5. The factory reset helped.
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I had a problem with excessive battery consumption, I already know that it was caused by data transfer from my Pixel 5. The factory reset helped.
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Do you have numbers to share regarding battery drain or battery life in general?
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Do you have numbers to share regarding battery drain or battery life in general?
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I had 3.5 to 4 sot, I was losing 15% of battery overnight without using 5g
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I had 3.5 to 4 sot, I was losing 15% of battery overnight without using 5g
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What numbers are you getting now? I'd like to not lose 1-2% an hour when the phone is asleep and not in use. I'm also annoyed with mobile network standby being in use all the time, despite never having an issue with it on my prior phone and even work phone, both pixels.
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okay ill be just normally using phone then if i turn it off and on again it looses like 20-30% battery and when i charge it at night it will say its at 100% then when i unplug it its at 90% but if i plug the charger back in and go back to sleep i pull it outs and its truly at 100% that doesn't really annoy me but what does is that when i reboot l lose so much battery is this normal if not how do i fix it without rooting?
PS ive alreadys tried blowing dust out of battery port and battery pins in phone
Maybe a poor battery. Did you reset the battery stats? I don't know if that affects it but you could try that. I know that when I turn the phone off and on, some more battery is lost, as if it recalibrates or something, but definitely not as much as you're losing.
Wrong battery stats is a common prob in sgs2..install better battery stats app and monitor what is causing d drain..also when fully charged see what is value..it is supposed to be 4201 mv when 100%..
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Battery PEGS at 100%
I have a SIMILAR issue, but not exactly the same as you describe. When I fully charge the phone to 100% the battery gauge at the top will STAY AT 100% desipte the phone running it down. Hours later it will STILL say 100%. If I go into Settings / About Phone / Status it also says 100% there. But if I reboot the phone, THEN it reports the correct battery level and will continue to do so - until I charge it 10 100% again ... then I'm back where I started!
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I have a SIMILAR issue, but not exactly the same as you describe. When I fully charge the phone to 100% the battery gauge at the top will STAY AT 100% desipte the phone running it down. Hours later it will STILL say 100%. If I go into Settings / About Phone / Status it also says 100% there. But if I reboot the phone, THEN it reports the correct battery level and will continue to do so - until I charge it 10 100% again ... then I'm back where I started!
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I have the exact same problem, stock phone 100% never any issue b4 it just stays at 100% after I reach it. Battery life is unchanged everything works perfectly normal it just only reports 100% after I charge up to 100%
You folks having these problems should calibrate your battery and see how you go from there.
I have a similar problem, after restarting it when around 60% it drops to 30%.
It's not an issue, though, since the battery drain at 100-60 is a lot higher than 30-0, so it's quite possible that the sensor in the phone is bad, but everything else is fine.
Is the overall battery charge lasting as long as it should? Eg 4 hours screen on or all day off one charge?
You might be placing too much faith in the battery percentage and not enough in how long the whole charge lasts for??
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who is faulty? The battery or s2?
I have exact the same problem. More than that, the battery usage stats shows ridiculous numbers in terms of timing. The battery seems to last normal, but the indicator tells that when 70% you have 2 minutes of battery left. It's the same with the overall usage: It says you have been using the phone for 15 minutes or so, although i ve been using it for 5-6 hours.
The battery itself tends to behave normally when charged to full. But drains very fast till 60% or so, then if I turn it off, it diminishes to 40% or 30%. Then it lasts reasonably longer then 100% to 90% and shuts down at 20% at best.
So what do you think? Is it the battery or the phone which is incredibly faulty?
Presume you have wiped the battery stats and calibrated the battery .
jje
By the way, I am not new to android, I've tried many roms, tweaks, calibrating and wiping the battery stats, applied the tips for better battery life... Nothing has changed.
Battery "calibration" is a myth, it's been debunked by Google itself:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT#105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
Stop spreading myths, people!
As for battery losing a sudden percentage of power after charge, I've had that happen in the past... With Samsung stock battery. My Anker battery works fine though, no issues.
You need to calibrate the battery and it would be a good idea to fully charge and discharge the battery a couple of times.
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You need to calibrate the battery and it would be a good idea to fully charge and discharge the battery a couple of times.
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elapsed time instead of remaining time on battery!
I just realized that my s2 shows elapsed time instead of remaining time. Actually it thinks that the elapsed time is the remaining time on battery. The battery is at %96 now and it says that there is 1hour 57min 31s on the battery, but that's the time passed since I unplug the charger. I will post some screenshots as soon as I could but this is the situation now. I think this confusion is killing the mind of the battery. It gets exhausted!
Is it the hardware or what? As I've mentioned, I did all that calibration and wiping stuff, flashed diff. kernels, roms whatsoever, nothing's changed
I just finished dealing with this problem over the past few days. At first I thought it was my Anker batteries as I am always swapping batteries over any given week. The last few days, I'd have a battery with 100% charge and when I would reboot the device or replace it with another full battery, it would show 70% charge and would quickly discharge over the next few hours.
To fix this, I wiped my phone clean. Backed up all data on my SD and External SD. Then I flashed a stock rom, then rooted and put a new ROM back on.
Since then, its been running clean and everytime I reboot or place a fully charged battery in now, it shows the correct charge remaining. It was a pain having to do all this but it worked for me
Thats strange, i would imagine the battery would improve over the course of a couple of days- oh well its worked for you tho! Lol
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Other than everything else I have mentioned, what about the battery draining rapidly after 50%? Till 50% it seems ok. But after 40% or so, it drains almost 1% per minute even if idle! Is that normal? How to fix it? tnx in advance.
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I just realized that my s2 shows elapsed time instead of remaining time. Actually it thinks that the elapsed time is the remaining time on battery. The battery is at %96 now and it says that there is 1hour 57min 31s on the battery, but that's the time passed since I unplug the charger. I will post some screenshots as soon as I could but this is the situation now. I think this confusion is killing the mind of the battery. It gets exhausted!
Is it the hardware or what? As I've mentioned, I did all that calibration and wiping stuff, flashed diff. kernels, roms whatsoever, nothing's changed
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I have done all of this and also noticed the time remaining is actually the amount of time the phone has been on. I have trued everything everyone has mentioned, nothing is working. When I do the battery calibration and turn the phone back on, it is at 98%. I have even tried rebooting the phone completely back to original / our of box state. From what I keep reading, it sounds like I will just have to live with this. Also, sometimes when I fully charge the phone, it gets stuck at 100% and I need to restart to "unstick".
In the last month my battery started to die faster than usual. I chalked it up to a combination of old age, running beta 4.0/4.1 roms and possibly more usage. But when the phone begain failing to reach 100% charge overnight I became concerned. It would often stop between 78-88%. If rebooted at this charge, m it would register as 100%. Ive wiped battery stats using all kinds of combinations. So I bought 2 new batteries and a wall charger to keep one topped. I have lots of USB cables. This hasn't fixed the problem. Ive used the wall charger to start a battery state wipe with no change in results. It seems a lot of people are/have experienced this issue with varied results and suspicions. I've been logging with battery monitor widget and seeing the charging slow to an almost stop depending on where the bump starts. See below. Thoughts?
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Looking for Android Development rom insight to find out if charging rates are a function of the rom or the hardware. This only happens when charging with a rom running.
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When you charge a battery to full with the wall charger, then put it in the phone, what does the battery monitor widget app tell you right then?
1) Try using a different wall charger and/or charge from a computer USB port instead.
2) Make sure you don't have an app that is running in the background constantly and killing your battery fast. Easiest way to confirm this is to make a backup of your ROM in CWM (so you can restore if this doesn't fix it), then do a clean install and see if you still have the problems.
I've used multiple chargers now with multiple clean rom installs with multiple batteries. All with the sane results. I have phone off charging enabled which once turned on results in 100% charge... but since rebooting has the same affect I'm not sure its really any different.
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This shows my all night charging cycle.
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This shows my all night charging cycle.
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Your phone is not supposed to stay awake or screen on the entire time it's charging. This problem has nothing to do with battery or charging problems, it's a problem with one of your apps not letting your phone go into a low-power mode.
Hi, I've the same problem with my aria. Since the beginning of this year I cannot have my phone fully charged. It started off with inability to go 100% charged, then it dropped to 90%, 80%, 70%, and now 60%. If there's luck, it can go to 70+%. Hard reset, wiping the battery stats in cwm, charge with different cables/adapters, still the same problem. It cannot beat the battery life when using stock rom. Another thing, everytime I checked with my built-in battery meter, the screen uses 41% of the juice. It seems that everytime I turn off the screen, the phone still uses the battery as if the screen is still on. Any suggestions? Thanks. (I'm using winsuk's cm9)
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Hi, I've the same problem with my aria. Since the beginning of this year I cannot have my phone fully charged. It started off with inability to go 100% charged, then it dropped to 90%, 80%, 70%, and now 60%. If there's luck, it can go to 70+%. Hard reset, wiping the battery stats in cwm, charge with different cables/adapters, still the same problem. It cannot beat the battery life when using stock rom. Another thing, everytime I checked with my built-in battery meter, the screen uses 41% of the juice. It seems that everytime I turn off the screen, the phone still uses the battery as if the screen is still on. Any suggestions? Thanks. (I'm using winsuk's cm9)
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I'd try running the 2.2.2 RUU on the phone to make sure all the partitions on the phone are not corrupted, and see if you have the problem on the official 2.2.2 stock ROM. (Make a backup first if you want to be able to revert!)
So I was going to post back that this was a clean install with only the basic non background running apps that I've always run like xda... and that it never used to do this. But what you said made sense so I broke my evening habbit and made sure that the screen was off and system able to sleep when set aside to charge. You were right.
What changed was my night time habbit of plugging in and surfing apps before bed and not making sure to turn the screen of before putting it down
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I never came back and reposted... but this turned out to be a fluke. I've been making sure the screen is turned off but the battery still wont charge all the way .. usually only to 70%. I've been using my external wall charger to keep a second battery always charged and take it with me. Disappointing but it seems to be hardware related.
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I've had a device that has such a problem. Except to an extreme point where my battery % will not go up at all and I didn't stick around to let it go all the way to 1% and die off not able to charge. I brought it to the shop when it just got stuck at 40+% max. And everytime it drops, it would not go up anymore. So the only way is to have it charged 24/7.
As much as I investigated, this has nothing to do with hardware, but software instead. It fails to register the fact that your battery is charged/charging/discharging. And in some cases, when it hits a certain %, it will detach itself to read your battery status while charging, therefore stops the charging process and your battery would drain (sometimes even while charging).
The software is responsible for these. Detecting when your battery is charged, it will stop the charging process and recharge it again when it drops a little lower than 100%. This is how the phone is programmed to avoid "Overcharge". But that role of your software seems to fail.
It's definitely hardware, and I wonder if maybe having it overclocked at 806 for so long had something to do with it.
My buddy and I swapped Aria's to try and troubleshoot the problem. We both have the same clockworkmod installed but decided to reinstall clockwork on both to be sure. We repartitioned both of our class 10 SDCards and formatted clean, we both formatted EVERYTHING on the phone (system, dalvik, cache, data, etc). We both loaded the same CM7 with gapps as we have both done in the past and then we agreed on a common set of minimal apps to download so that we would both have the same apps (apps like Maps, Facebook, and Pulse but nothing more) just the bare essentials to get by for a few days. We didn't even install gmail. Since his phone has been working good, I let him keep his battery and I put my battery in his phone, then I took his phone and he took mine. Less than 24hrs later, he calls me to tell me my phone drains the battery so fast its almost useless, and he cant get it to charge all the way on his charging cables which work fine on his phone. He also noted my phone runs much hotter than his. His phone at my place, however seems to work fine with my batter, charger, etc etc. So after 2 days, he insists we trade back (damn..) and I get my poor aria back - now verified that there is some hardware issue and it doesn't have anything to do with software.
So, I bought a Galaxy S 2 Skyrocket for $9 on att.com and the little aria goes in the tech drawer. It's been fun people, I'll check back in occasionally as it was a fun ride - I'm really gonna miss the trackball
me too!i think it's CM9's BUG
Hi all,
I am running and unofficial (4.3) build of carbonrom, but the same was happening on the last stable build (4.2.2).
I have not checked to see if this happens on the stock ROM yet.
My battery percentage jumps down occasionally during use. So far it seems to happen only twice from a full charge. First when the battery hits 60%, it jumps down to 49%, and next when the battery hits 35%, it jumps down to 20%. I will post pictures of the battery usage screen next time it happens.
What are possible reasons for this happening? Any fix suggestions?
Thanks!
Well, I dont know exactly but this happens to me either on stock or custom rom. My system 1 is stock rom and I have made 1% battery and it always jump especially from 29 to 20, the second rom is slim bean 4.3 and the battery jumps at the same stat...maybe its razr 1% issue...I dont know exactly..
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Same here,on carbon.
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Same here,on carbon.
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which build?
It happens to me all the times, and I'm on stock ICS firmware, on my XT910. It does two jumps, as you stated, one around 60-55% and the other one (this is the most notable), from 29% to 20-19%.
i got da same problem....
im on stock jb ,
when batt. hits 20-25% , its jumps to 5%...
but its only happen when batt. gets bellow 30%....
Had the same problem with my razr, draind the battery till the phone died, left the phone to charge (the phone was off) till it was 100%, draint it again and no problems after that
Same here! I thought I was alone, my battery jumps from 29 to 20 in a heartbeat...
I was too lazy to write a post about it
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So this weekend I drained my battery completely, charged to 100%, drained again, and charged again. Will report back later tonight with whether or not the battery is still jumping.
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So this weekend I drained my battery completely, charged to 100%, drained again, and charged again. Will report back later tonight with whether or not the battery is still jumping.
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Any word on this?
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Unfortunately, it didn't seem to make a difference, here's my battery usage for just today:
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So I tried flashing the JBX kernel this weekend, to see if it was a kernel issue, and no luck. Maybe I've just messed up my battery =\ Oh well... If anyone is a dev/knows a dev, maybe they could take a look so we can get their opinion.
no you have not messed up your battery i had the same issues and went to the cm10.1.3 rom and it is the best in the world lol at lest compared to cm10.2 lol
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no you have not messed up your battery i had the same issues and went to the cm10.1.3 rom and it is the best in the world lol at lest compared to cm10.2 lol
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So (in your opinion) it's probably a ROM issue?
Yes! I have seen a lot of roms not really having God battery and all the roms with android 4.2.2 have very good battery
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This happens on any ROM I run, 4.2.2 included. That was where I first noticed the battery jumping. It also happens on the stock ROM, which is why I'm guessing it's a battery issue.
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That could be.
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I think its 1% issue on razr...never happenned with 10%. Im just curious, is the battery value really drops, or it's just the stats? Maybe on certain stats it doesnt drop that fast in cost of dropping on other certain stats. Strange, its hardware and sensors...how could this happenned? I have decompiled systemui.apk and find that I still have the original stats there along with the 1% stats...original stats drops from 28 to 15 (I can remember the lower value exactly) if Im not mistaken. What if I deleted the original stats? I should try this sometimes when I have time...
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hi!
How many installed ROMs do you have? Do you use BMM or SS?
I have last BMM, stock in 1 slot, 4.3.1 SlimBean in second. I use always second. May I will delete stock sometime.
The battery %% is nothing.
The battery voltage is everything. But android has problems with battery % usage.
Install some application to see battery voltage (I have "Android assistant")
100% battery is around 4.2Volts.
0% of Li-ion battery is 3.0V, but usually controllers keep discharging only till 3.3V. Andoid discharge to 0% - 3.5V.
If you check voltage, you will see that it is only decreasing but two installed ROMs show bettery % different.
Possible solution with all battery problems:
1) charge 100% in system. disconnect charger. (Better to use original charger, not PC)
2) Power off
3) connect charger and charge till 100%.
4) disconnect cable.
5) load to BMM of SS
6) check battery %
7) connect charger and charge 100%
8) find command: wipe battery stat
9) reboot and load to your ROM
For future: install new ROMs only with connected charger and 100% battery.
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hi!
How many installed ROMs do you have? Do you use BMM or SS?
I have last BMM, stock in 1 slot, 4.3.1 SlimBean in second. I use always second. May I will delete stock sometime.
The battery %% is nothing.
The battery voltage is everything. But android has problems with battery % usage.
Install some application to see battery voltage (I have "Android assistant")
100% battery is around 4.2Volts.
0% of Li-ion battery is 3.0V, but usually controllers keep discharging only till 3.3V. Andoid discharge to 0% - 3.5V.
If you check voltage, you will see that it is only decreasing but two installed ROMs show bettery % different.
Possible solution with all battery problems:
1) charge 100% in system. disconnect charger. (Better to use original charger, not PC)
2) Power off
3) connect charger and charge till 100%.
4) disconnect cable.
5) load to BMM of SS
6) check battery %
7) connect charger and charge 100%
8) find command: wipe battery stat
9) reboot and load to your ROM
For future: install new ROMs only with connected charger and 100% battery.
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Well actually, this isn't unique to the RAZR alone as I have an Atrix 2 and experience the battery jumping with all roms and 1% battery mods as well. Our locked bootloaders are thought to be the cause as well as your explanation, so there's no way around it (unless yours behaves properly ).
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After having the Moto 2nd gen for a day I'm pleasantly surprised at the battery life. On my 1st gen Moto I usually got just under 10 hours of battery with the ambient mode on. My 2nd gen has been on for over 20 hours and the battery is down to 46%. The screen has been on the whole time except from midnight until I put it back on this morning. This may be a new feature whereby the Moto can detect if it is being actively worn or just lying on a desk at night.
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After having the Moto 2nd gen for a day I'm pleasantly surprised at the battery life. On my 1st gen Moto I usually got just under 10 hours of battery with the ambient mode on. My 2nd gen has been on for over 20 hours and the battery is down to 46%. The screen has been on the whole time except from midnight until I put it back on this morning. This may be a new feature whereby the Moto can detect if it is being actively worn or just lying on a desk at night.
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Overall battery life has been stellar on my 42mm Gen2. My only issue with it is that at or shortly after it hits 15% it shuts down automatically and won't turn back on till it's charged up for a couple minutes. basically I don't get the last 15% of the battery. I exchanged my first unit and this one does the same thing. I've had it for 4 days now, and going through a few full charge cycles hasnt changed anything.
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Overall battery life has been stellar on my 42mm Gen2. My only issue with it is that at or shortly after it hits 15% it shuts down automatically and won't turn back on till it's charged up for a couple minutes. basically I don't get the last 15% of the battery. I exchanged my first unit and this one does the same thing. I've had it for 4 days now, and going through a few full charge cycles hasnt changed anything.
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Strange. My unit definitely doesn't do this.
I've not had a smartwatch before so the rate of decrease is a little alarming for me. I can still get through a day no problem though - perhaps I could even stretch it to two if it's fully charged in the morning.
What disappoints me is the speed with which it recharges. Since the battery is tiny, I assumed it would recharge within an hour. Instead it seems to charge slower than my HTC One M7, which is notorious for being the slowest charging phone of all time.
Never owned smartwach, impressed by battery life
I bought the 46 and for 3 full days never ran out of battery and and 20 to 30% left at bedtime, ambient on wrist gestures off.. i am playing with it like mad so it will even get better i assume.. but loving it
Only on my first day, but so far battery is far superior to original Moto 360 and even rivals my LG G watch R performance. With ambient on, and moderate use (emails/text/weather) I am seeing 3% battery drain per hour (8.5 hours use with 74% remaining).
I will give a more thorough update once I have spend a few days with it.
Odd my 46mm is at 22% and it has been about 12 hours. Seems a bit short compared to what you guys are getting. Granted I have all the features turned on (ambient display, gestures, etc) It is my first full day with the watch. I'll see how well it does tomorrow maybe just the first drain needs to calibrate the battery.
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I don't have a graph for it but having it on from 10 to 10 (12 hours) mine went 100 to 71% surprised the hell outa me considering the day before was 80 to 30% in about 4-5 hours granted that was with setup and fiddling with apps and whatnot. If it didn't make such a damn nice little nightstand clock I'd have just left it sitting for the night. This is with ambient on gestures on wifi auto and all the heart monitor junk off on the 46mm model.
I got 44 hours out of mine yesterday with ambient on and gestures off. I'm still observing the screen going off if the watch is just lying around somewhere. Funnily nobody else seems to be mentioning this.
How did you turn off the heart monitor stuff? I didn't see any options for this either in fit or moto body. Even checked the android wear app and the connect app. I do see it is checking heart rate at least once an hour or more at times, and just checked it and found it checking every 5 minutes now.
Want bad the other day checking every hour still got 2 days use, but noticed it last night and today when the battery was only going max a day.
Day 2 of battery. About 12 hours and it is at 38%. Ambient and gestures on. Curious as to what you guys are doing for substantially better battery life. I am going to try turning off ambient tomorrow.
i think it would be better if you mentioned the model you have since the battery is bigger in the 46mm model
I have a 46mm Moto (400mah battery). I use 3rd party watchfaces and run ambient (always on), auto brightness, and receive approx 40 emails and a dozen text messages in a normal day. I don't use tilt to wake as I can always see the watchface in ambient, and wifi is off. I pulled off the charger this morning at 7:15am and now at 11:30pm I am at 47% approx 3.6% drain per hour. Have had the watch now for 4 days. This rivals the performance I get out of my LG G watch R. Must say I am very happy with battery life so far.
Can anyone with a 42mm tell me how the battery is with ambient off and gestures on?
Wow, I have had the 46mm watch for two days and both days it had died by 1pm after pulling it from the charger a 3am, not even close to 12 hrs
I do use it with endomondo for about an hour in the morning but still, have ambient turned off. Guess I'll try turning off the gestures and see if it might last a day.
My best day with the 46mm was the day before yesterday. Took it off the charger around 9AM on Monday. Put it back on charge around 9PM on Tuesday. Ambient On, Gestrues and WiFi off. Still had about 20% left but had to charge it for the next day. BTW my 46mm Moto 2 charges just fine with the first gen charger.
My batter life goes from horrible to ok for no reason.
Last night my watch hit 100%charge at around 1am. I took it off the charger and set it on the table. I just over 4.5 hours it was under 25%. Using Wear Battery Stats I see no app activity, and the screen states watch is "Off".
I charge it back up when I got up to 52% before I went out on a 1+ hour workout using endomondo, listening to audible. Both applications were showing on the watch when I check (distance for endomondo and play controls for audible). This only took it down 9%.
This makes no sense.
Think I need to contact customer support or just return it as defective?
Thanks
I have heard that lithium batteries have the best life span if you don't let them discharge too far. For example, a battery put on the charger more frequently - say 50% - will last longer than one where you wait unil 20%.
This comes from the RC helicopter community where they monitor battery life and performance pretty closely. I'm wondering if anyone knows data about this with watches?
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I have heard that lithium batteries have the best life span if you don't let them discharge too far. For example, a battery put on the charger more frequently - say 50% - will last longer than one where you wait unil 20%.
This comes from the RC helicopter community where they monitor battery life and performance pretty closely. I'm wondering if anyone knows data about this with watches?
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What you mention is a good guideline for maximizing battery life. Linked below is a great article I commonly come back to and share out to others regarding lithium battery life.
The advice I usually give is to "fully" discharge the battery once per initial setup or factory reset, and then fully charge it overnight. This will give the OS a good handle on the upper and lower charge parameters to properly report available battery percentage. Most of the onboard controllers for batteries keep them from getting too close to fully charged or discharged, so regardless of what's being reported to the user. The user only needs to be concerned with this middle area they have to play with since they'll never see the "full" capacity of the battery. but even though we never see the "full" 300mah or 400mah, we see the same middle area of each, so from a comparative standpoint these numbers are still valid to extrapolate relative available capacity. if that makes any sense.
Anyways, the short version is that most smart devices already manage the charge cycle pretty well since most smart device users are just dumb users. So if we calibrate the batteries we use with a full charge and discharge cycle, then just use the devices like dumb users, we're probably just fine.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Interesting article, and accompanying links. I believe they are saying the same thing as the RC helicopter folks - don't overly discharge, do frequently recharge:
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses.
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It's fun to see "how long you can go" without recharging, but it might not be the best practice.
Hello guys,
I'm willing to buy the 46mm. We always talk about autonomy of smartwatch but I'd be interested to understand what affects the battery of the smartphone in% after a full day always connected Bluetooth?
I have a Note4 but I would not lose too much autonomy.
Thank you in advance
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OneUI 5.0 and previous one also introduced protect battery that doesn't allow u charge phone above 85%. I am using it often because for me it dont affect my phone usage patterns. I can charge phone at least once per 8h and it is almost impossible to discharge phone in time (I have S23+ but I am posting here cuz its more active tag). I am leaving house at 80% and coming back at 50% in overtime scenario.
But also I read it is healthy to full discharge (or till 5-10%) and then full charge phone at least once a month and some sources says even more frequently to do it.
On one side rumours says u should always avoid discharging under 25% and charging over 80%, and other says u should relatively frequently discharge ur phone and then charge it up till full.
I want to know how it works in theory I am not interested in getting answers like "lol man why u even care, phone is for you not otherwise" - because it is often answer in topics like that.
I think that charging to 85% with low speed will be more than enough.
I saw with my gf phone, hauwei p30 pro.
I tried so hard to "teach" her a proper charging routine, but she just doesn't care. The only thing I managed to do is silently enable the "smart charging" to stop charge battery under max capacity.
After 3 years honestly her battery life is still great, as it was mine with the regular Huawei p30 (me, a maniac as you).
Anyway, if you really like the phone, you can afford replace battery after 4 years (should be even cheaper with s23 ultra)
Fl1nt91 said:
I think that charging to 85% with low speed will be more than enough.
I saw with my gf phone, hauwei p30 pro.
I tried so hard to "teach" her a proper charging routine, but she just doesn't care. The only thing I managed to do is silently enable the "smart charging" to stop charge battery under max capacity.
After 3 years honestly her battery life is still great, as it was mine with the regular Huawei p30 (me, a maniac as you).
Anyway, if you really like the phone, you can afford replace battery after 4 years (should be even cheaper with s23 ultra)
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I am using 20W to charge my S23+ so it is not slowest charge but not fastest aswell. Still alot slower than chinese products offering 100W+. I think charging from 20 do 80 in like 35-40 mins is really healthy for battery.
My problem with replacing battery is more that it is hard to find original one and find service that can replace it without losing data and other stuff. At least I had much problems with it with my previous phone but it was realme not samsung so I am aware after 2 years I will have problems with replacing it.
Minimize the current drain. Higher current drain reduces the battery's life span by requiring more full charge cycles for the tasks but also by raising the operating temperature.
Avoid starting a charge cycle below a battery temperature of 72F, 82 is better. Keep charging temps below 102F. 82-99F is ideal.
NEVER attempt to charge a Li that's near freezing temperatures.
Li's prefer frequent midrange power cycling rather than longer usage/charge times. My typical cutoff is 40% or higher and 72% if I'm trying to extend the battery life. Ideally it should be allowed to "settle" after a charge before using.
Never charge with the display on.
When the battery reaches 80% of its new capacity it's considered degraded and should be replaced. Degraded cells are more likely to fail. Any swelling is a failure, replace immediately. A failed Li can damage the display.
I totaly abused my note 10 plus from september 2019 to february 2023, so almost 4 years - charging to 100%, connecting/disconnecting whenever i needed it, playing games while charging everyday, draining it to 0% sometimes, other times it was on 92% or 87% and i was planning a long day, so i charge it to 100%, full abuse. My battery was in perfect condition till the day i bought the s23u. I think that the quality of the battery matters much more than the way you use it, your usage patterns have very little effect on the battery in the period you use your phone. Maybe if we start using our phones for 10-15 years, it will matter, but...
I don't do the stop at 85% on my devices but I do turn off all fast charging and I'm happy with that, but that's just me.
1) Don't put your phone on charge and sleep 10 hours.
2) Keep your charge between sweet spots. %40 - %80 is always ideal.
3) Fast charging does not harm.
4) Don't play games while charging.
5) Don't let your phone get too hot. Hot battery die sooner.
I use default 25w oficial charger from Samsung S21 Ultra, i have like 4 of those and i see no point in having a 45w to shave 10mins of charging time. Fast charging enabled.
I also made a routine, on Saturday and Sunday it disables battery protection so it charges 100% for when i travel and use camera a lot, during work days battery protection(85%) is enabled by default.
I have my S23U 1080p 120hz using light mode all the time and i'm having good results.
in my life I've had a lot of smartphones and what I can say is that I've never performed these types of charges from 25% to 85% and I've never had a problem, however where I had problems was with smartphones that had a processor badly optimizing the heating prevents the battery from working properly and above all the cables and chargers if you use non-official chargers or damage your battery, there is a risk of damage
From what I read it does not matter if you charge to 100 % but you should not continue charging it.
To prevent this I just made a routine that turns on the 85 % mode as soon as it reaches 99 % (I guess I could've chosen 100 % but did not...). Then it stops charging and I wake up with around 99 % charge..
Try to not go below 30% and never ever go to 0 or close to it. Li Ion battery are fragile in deep discharge as same li polymer batteries. So never go in deep discharge, it makes more damage to the battery than charge it to 100%. I have 10y lipos batteries for my RC models that i never go below 30% and they still have 95% of capacity... 10y and running fine in hard condition RC helicopters that pulls all the battery to 30% in 5 minutes. Li ion are the same...
Why not play games while charging? Isn't also supposed top have power passthrough?
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1) Don't put your phone on charge and sleep 10 hours.
2) Keep your charge between sweet spots. %40 - %80 is always ideal.
3) Fast charging does not harm.
4) Don't play games while charging.
5) Don't let your phone get too hot. Hot battery die sooner.
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Why not play games while charging? Isn't also supposed top have power passthrough?
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Well probably it is because gaming = heat and chargin = heat. Double source of heat may cause battery damage. This is probably the only reason.
Battery University has a really good article on what causes excess battery damage.
Basically, after manufacturing, the battery will get damaged even if it just sits there. But the things to really look out for:
Don't leave the battery discharged
Avoid heat
Don't charge when the battery is cold
Don't charge when the battery is hot
Fast charging creates heat
Don't charge/discharge above a rate of 1C
Don't keep the battery at a high voltage (fully charged)
So keep the battery between ~30-80% at a reasonable temperature
Since my first smartphone (a BlackBerry Curve) I've charged my phone's to 100%, left them on the charger all night, and plugged in in the car. I've never seen a noticeable degradation of battery life. I know it happens, but I think it's been blown out of proportion.
What's the point of a big battery and great battery life if you ly charge it to 85%? I think by the time the battery actually reached the point that it only had the equivalent of 85% health/life you'll be long ready to trade it in.
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Since my first smartphone (a BlackBerry Curve) I've charged my phone's to 100%, left them on the charger all night, and plugged in in the car. I've never seen a noticeable degradation of battery life. I know it happens, but I think it's been blown out of proportion.
What's the point of a big battery and great battery life if you ly charge it to 85%? I think by the time the battery actually reached the point that it only had the equivalent of 85% health/life you'll be long ready to trade it in.
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If you plan to hold it for at least 4 years its worth saving battery. And i believe this is the phone i'm going to hold for a long time. And like i said before, using routine for weekends at 100% battery.
This is me today at work, from 85% to 71% in 10 hours, 35min sot, with 4 calls less then 5min each since i'm at work i can't use my phone all the time. 1080p, 120hz, ligth mode. wifi and bluetooth enabled with watch honor magic 2 connected.
I know it's in Portuguese but you can understand by icons and stuff.
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OneUI 5.0 and previous one also introduced protect battery that doesn't allow u charge phone above 85%. I am using it often because for me it dont affect my phone usage patterns. I can charge phone at least once per 8h and it is almost impossible to discharge phone in time (I have S23+ but I am posting here cuz its more active tag). I am leaving house at 80% and coming back at 50% in overtime scenario.
But also I read it is healthy to full discharge (or till 5-10%) and then full charge phone at least once a month and some sources says even more frequently to do it.
On one side rumours says u should always avoid discharging under 25% and charging over 80%, and other says u should relatively frequently discharge ur phone and then charge it up till full.
I want to know how it works in theory I am not interested in getting answers like "lol man why u even care, phone is for you not otherwise" - because it is often answer in topics like that.
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To save battery for max you should always have from 50 to 70% charge from 10C* to 45C* do not use phone lower or higher degrees it may cause bad reaction to battery. Do not use fast charge all this stuff based on a lot of researches you can find it.
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If you plan to hold it for at least 4 years its worth saving battery. And i believe this is the phone i'm going to hold for a long time. And like i said before, using routine for weekends at 100% battery.
This is me today at work, from 85% to 71% in 10 hours, 35min sot, with 4 calls less then 5min each since i'm at work i can't use my phone all the time. 1080p, 120hz, ligth mode. wifi and bluetooth enabled with watch honor magic 2 connected.
I know it's in Portuguese but you can understand by icons and stuff.
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Ok, if you're going to keep it that long I can see trying to maintain the battery. I do trade in yearly, but in that year Ive never seen any degradation. And I do all the things you're not supposed to. It stays in my car on the charger in the heat and the cold. I leave it charging all night. I abuse TF out of my battery. The rest of the phone I keep pristine tho, LOL.
I don't worry about battery at all. I love fast charging option and it's always on. I need the phone to charge fast, even though Samsung's 45W is actually really slow today. Why I don't care? Because my 2 years warranty covers the battery issues too (2X per year) so I can ask them to exchange the battery if the condition degrades.
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I don't worry about battery at all. I love fast charging option and it's always on. I need the phone to charge fast, even though Samsung's 45W is actually really slow today. Why I don't care? Because my 2 years warranty covers the battery issues too (2X per year) so I can ask them to exchange the battery if the condition degrades.
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Agree, fast charging is just too convenient. I do limit top charge and discharge % though. On this heavily used N10+ I expect about a 2 year battery lifespan. Battery change outs aren't that hard or expensive. It's going to be on its 3rd battery soon. The first one had a hard life because the phone wasn't properly optimized the first few months; constant high current drains will kill the battery prematurely.