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So hi guys, I'm brand new here and don't know anything with new techs so I hope tht someone can help me out with this.
I just bought a V30+ this morning, and the IMEI is : 358166081226505, LG-H933 and S/N is 709KPPB0008640,.
I don't know how to check if this phone is legit or not and I don't even know which carrier it's belong to, because I bought it from a supplier who brought it from abroad ( I'm from Vietnam ). So can anyone help me to track where is it from ?, and is it legit or not ?
Besides, It's work complete ly fine with my local Vietnam's SIM card so I don't even know if it's unlocked or not, but when I tried to manual update the phone said that : " Device is not registered". I've tried googled up many method but nothing worked, including factory reset... Any help on this guys ?
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
You have Canadian V30, if H933. All the carriers in Canada use the same model. Software loads depending on Canadian SIM card used.
ARE YOU SURE IT'S H933?
They don't have V30+.
It's either not H933 or is not V30+, just V30. Which is it?
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
thanks sir for your quick reply, mive have Lg V30+ logo on the back and 128 gb storage , and when I check the phone info it said Lg H933, so i'm not sure, is that maybe someone changed it ?
kyubj said:
thanks sir for your quick reply, mive have Lg V30+ logo on the back and 128 gb storage , and when I check the phone info it said Lg H933, so i'm not sure, is that maybe someone changed it ?
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Maybe one of the Canadian guys can answer?
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
It's not possible to have V30 plus H933. The H933 is the V30. Maybe is counterfeit or an refurbished phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/software-update-phone-registered-to-t3723704
I think same situation with mine.
Long story short,
The phone should be on the provided carrier at least once.
If not, it happens.
only way to fix is inserting active sim for original carrier, in this case you should go to Canada.
or, find H933 KDZ files and manually update it. you can find how to do from https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910.
but DON'T USE US998 KDZ! you have to find H933 KDZ.
rhplusa10 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/software-update-phone-registered-to-t3723704
I think same situation with mine.
Long story short,
The phone should be on the provided carrier at least once.
If not, it happens.
only way to fix is inserting active sim for original carrier, in this case you should go to Canada.
or, find H933 KDZ files and manually update it. you can find how to do from https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910.
but DON'T USE US998 KDZ! you have to find H933 KDZ.
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Well, not quite the same as yours. He has a phone that doesn't officially exist. An H933 V30+.
H933 is "Canada", but they have no V30+ -- only V30.
I'm in Canada and I have a H933 and its 64GB V30. All the new phones sold in Canada are carrier unlocked due to bew laws that is why it is working with your carrier.
You mentioned buying it off some supplier, the only thing I can think of would be that you got a refurbished unit. I don't even know if swapping a 64GB storage on V30 (H933) with a 128GB unit would work (since the OS and everything should be on that storage chip) but that is the only thing I can think off to explain the situation. Plus, a back panel saying V30+ with a H933 brand kind of suggests a refurbished unit since V30+ is not sold is not available in Canada.
Return the unit and get your money back!
hekermeker said:
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
It's not possible to have V30 plus H933. The H933 is the V30. Maybe is counterfeit or an refurbished phone.
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Actually, the V30+is just a V30 with 128gigs of storage and a decent pair of earbuds. The "+" is just marketing. H933 is the Canadian V30. Carries or retailers may sell it as a "Plus" but it will have the same model number.
santeana said:
Actually, the V30+is just a V30 with 128gigs of storage and a decent pair of earbuds. The "+" is just marketing. H933 is the Canadian V30. Carries or retailers may sell it as a "Plus" but it will have the same model number.
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It is just marketing, but there's no official V30+ for the Canadian H933. No carriers or retailers sell it.
It's either not an H933, or it's not a real V30+.
Which means someone took a H933 V30, swapped out the internal 64GB storage for 128GB AND put on a V30+ back panel. A Frankenstein phone. DING. DING. DING.
He bought that "Canadian" phone in ASIA, so who knows how it got that way...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
santeana said:
Actually, the V30+is just a V30 with 128gigs of storage and a decent pair of earbuds. The "+" is just marketing. H933 is the Canadian V30. Carries or retailers may sell it as a "Plus" but it will have the same model number.
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The 128GB version was never offered by any carriers in Canada. I am not sure if LG Canada actually sold them directly though.
The H933 is carrier unlocked out of the box. Have you tried another SIM card just to test it, even if the SIM isn't activated? If the SIM you are trying to use activated? Stolen phones are blacklisted in a database that spans most of the US and Canadian carriers in order to combat phone theft. Have you contacted your carrier to verify the IMEI and serial number is not stolen? I highly recommend removing your devices serial number and IMEI as well from your post.
Edit: There is one other thing you can try that might help. Go to the LG Dialer and put in *#546368#*933#. This should open up to a group of 4 menus. If it doesn't, it isn't an H933. If it does, go to Field Test, Modem Settings, and LTE-A CA setting. In here, you want to select the top option, which is, CA Enable/ SupportedBandCom.. (All Enable). You will need to reboot the device for this to take effect. When it boots, you will see an unlatched lock with a blue thing moving around it in a circle. This should disable carrier aggregation and allow the phone to search all bands it supports for service.
my lg v30 cant update via ota
pls i also bought lgv30 us998 version but the problem is when i try updating to pie it get stock at boot logo secondly it doesnt bring update via ota it doesn't bring update so i tried flashing oreo via lgup oreo works but pie stock at boot logo so i dont know why so im thinking maybe the devise is not us998 i dont know so pls how do i know if it us998 or not
and also when i check the imei online it says lgv30+
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pls i also bought lgv30 us998 version but the problem is when i try updating to pie it get stock at boot logo secondly it doesnt bring update via ota it doesn't bring update so i tried flashing oreo via lgup oreo works but pie stock at boot logo so i dont know why so im thinking maybe the devise is not us998 i dont know so pls how do i know if it us998 or not
and also when i check the imei online it says lgv30+
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There's nothing wrong with your phone.
This has been thoroughly discussed in the US998 Pie KDZ thread. And digging up a 1.5 year old thread which has nothing to do with Pie is ridiculous.
Go back to the US998 KDZ PIE thread and READ the workaround Installation methods. There's THREE of them.
my lg v30 cant update via ota
Thanks have already checked on that but didn't work for me unless I unlock it to use the TWRP method
soulquest12 said:
Thanks have already checked on that but didn't work for me unless I unlock it to use the TWRP method
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Yeah, there's three workarounds. If none work -- and you have NOT tried them all yet -- you have to wait for another KDZ.
Read bottom of screenshot, which you should have read earlier. There's no other answers.
my lg v30 cant update via ota
Yeah that what they said because I tried lgup Dev patch with other kdz nougat and Oreo it work fine only the pie giving me issues so I was told to wait for another kdz and even the pie is not stable and lags so I guess that why it not working for all except unlocked ur bootloader then flash TWRP then flash the TWRP us99830b that works for everyone but in my case don't want to unlock the phone now I just want it to be stock always since it aosp base and like the customization of lg with many features so there is .of point using custom roms I use custom roms on my mi 6x so I get pretty much tired because of battery life and heating issue so I prefer stock it fine ? and I love aod too ??
So, fun story! I bricked my AT&T V20! It got really hot during use, so i shut it off to cool off, went to turn it back on, and its "stuck" in some menu with an hourglass logo, that i cant really see because part of the screen is covered in static, cant even boot into recovery. So, i went to insurance, and theyre sending me an AT&T v30 as a replacement.
On to my questions;
What are some MUST KNOW tips that i should be aware of?
Where are we at with root?
Bootloader unlocked yet?
Any rom's you recommend?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
So, fun story! I bricked my AT&T V20! It got really hot during use, so i shut it off to cool off, went to turn it back on, and its "stuck" in some menu with an hourglass logo, that i cant really see because part of the screen is covered in static, cant even boot into recovery. So, i went to insurance, and theyre sending me an AT&T v30 as a replacement.
On to my questions;
What are some MUST KNOW tips that i should be aware of?
Where are we at with root?
Bootloader unlocked yet?
Any rom's you recommend?
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No carrier models have root.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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No carrier models have root.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Dang! Any news on how far into development we are with root or is nothing being worked on?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Dang! Any news on how far into development we are with root or is nothing being worked on?
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Three non-carrier models have root. But LG allows bootloader unlock with full fastboot flash commands for those three.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3745006
T-Mobile H932 guys haven't given up hope yet. There's a dedicated thread for that discussion.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75936789
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75936789
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Speaking of WETA, i was running it on my V20 (H910), and to install it, I had to use the US996 variant which worked fine. Is it the same situation with the V30?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Speaking of WETA, i was running it on my V20 (H910), and to install it, I had to use the US996 variant which worked fine. Is it the same situation with the V30?
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Yes, open market LG US998, sold by authorized retailers like B&H Photo.
Be careful buying of eBay, as the U.S.Cellular model US998 is otherwise identical to the open market LG US998 but is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Yes, open market LG US998, sold by authorized retailers like B&H Photo.
Be careful buying of eBay, as the U.S.Cellular model US998 is otherwise identical to the open market LG US998 but is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
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It ran fine until your phone fried, is what you meant to say...
redoregon said:
It ran fine until your phone fried, is what you meant to say...
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If you cared to read my post, It fried because it got too hot, not because of WETA. Go be a pleb somewhere else.
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
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I answered your original question, I thought... I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking. You need an open market US998 V30 to run the US998 WETA ROM.
Are you asking if the WETA US998 ROM will work with other LG V30, besides the open market US998?
The dev @Mentalmuso was trying to make WETA US998 ROM work with the H930 V30/V930G (the other two in the series that have bootloader unlock with fastboot flash commands available), but he stopped because @Whiskeyomega Boombox ROM came back. They share a lot of the same audio mods.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3747290
At least one person with an LG H930 got WETA to boot, but the dev was doing things blind for the European models because he has US998.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
If you cared to read my post, It fried because it got too hot, not because of WETA. Go be a pleb somewhere else.
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Right. ROMs never overheat phones. Excuse my lack of experience in the ROM world.
redoregon said:
Right. ROMs never overheat phones. Excuse my lack of experience in the ROM world.
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Let me explain clearer since you don't get it, my phone got hot because it was in a hot environment, since you feel such a need to come in and be a know it all **** wit. Now sod off.
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Let me explain clearer since you don't get it, my phone got hot because it was in a hot environment, since you feel such a need to come in and be a know it all **** wit. Now sod off.
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Oh, "it got really hot during use" invisibly included the reason it got hot as the environment. Silly me.
Unless an engineering abl (the new SD835 encrypted aboot) leaks specifically for the AT&T model V30, then you will never have root.
Unlike the V20, where all the models (except the T-Mobile H918) had the same RSA key in the CPU, on the V30, the key is different for every model I checked.
Even if a kernel exploit or some other temp root could be obtained, you have no way to flash TWRP, or permanent root, since neither recovery, boot or system can be modified.
-- Brian
hey i ordered a lg v30+ US998 unlocked online and its on 7.1.2 android version and i heard there is android 8, when i tried to update on the phone it says your phone is not registered yet?? how can i update?
macadacious91 said:
hey i ordered a lg v30+ US998 unlocked online and its on 7.1.2 android version and i heard there is android 8, when i tried to update on the phone it says your phone is not registered yet?? how can i update?
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Been asked a million times. You can update it in 5 minutes with latest US998 Oreo KDZ posted in this forum, once you install LGUP. Latest as of this moment is US998 20H. Some of the answers below are over the PAST YEAR, so you may see older Oreo KDZ mentioned. It's the METHOD that's important, that is the same.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-oreo-t3831950
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-us998-wont-update-to-oreo-t3831951
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/soemthing-wrong-phone-t3917081
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-lg-us998-able-to-update-ota-t3937046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/bought-unlocked-v30-ls998-t3905647/page2
I would add that you can also use LG Bridge, which is their official tool for backup and phone updating.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000025-1438110404543-lg-backup-lg-switch
You can do other, more hacky and sophisticated things with LGUP, including rolling back to previous Android versions. You can also do things you shouldn't and which you'll regret. That's almost impossible with LG Bridge.
TheDannemand said:
I would add that you can also use LG Bridge, which is their official tool for backup and phone updating.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000025-1438110404543-lg-backup-lg-switch
You can do other, more hacky and sophisticated things with LGUP, including rolling back to previous Android versions. You can also do things you shouldn't and which you'll regret. That's almost impossible with LG Bridge.
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But you can't always use LG Bridge to update firmware...
* If it's former North American variant converted to US998, LG Bridge still sees the "LS998" IMEI or whatever. So you have to manually update through LGUP with downloaded KDZ. Same thing, you're just doing it manually. (Same reason these converted US998 probably don't receive OTA updates?)
They're still US998, there's nothing "wrong" with them, except manual updates. I just bought another converted LS998/US998 V30+ recently. I think I'm addicted... It's flawless condition, by the way.
* Also, even with native US998, I've had LG Bridge tell me I have the latest firmware -- when I don't. So, again LGUP is the answer.
Good points, Chaz. Until recently I always used LG Bridge myself, easy peasy. But I can see with so many Frankenphoned LS998 in circulation, that LGUP is a more predictable advice.
And, ahem... Yes, you may in fact qualify as addicted. How many of these are you up to now?
But they really are a great value at this point, no doubt.
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And, ahem... Yes, you may in fact qualify as addicted. How many of these are you up to now?
But they really are a great value at this point, no doubt.
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Yeah,
* Mint US998 V30+ is down to $170 now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
* Mint Sprint LS998 V30+ is $180:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS998-128GB-Titan-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-A-Mint-/192609345150
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Besides my wife's and my B&H Photo native US998 V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB) which we use daily...
I have one new (yes, actually new from Wal-mart) V30+ in box, and this recent mint V30+ off eBay. Both are former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. (Yes, came from Wal-Mart that way.) I tell myself these two are backups, in case of emergency. I probably only need one -- not two -- but I couldn't resist buying another.
I ALSO have a mint 2018 AT&T LG V35 flashed to Google Fi firmware, which I've taken out of the box once. I'm not sure what to do with that. I was hoping we would get bootloader unlock, TWRP, and root for the LG V35. There is some kind of remote bootloader unlock and root available, but not TWRP that I'm aware of...
All the other LG V30/V30+ I gave to family/sold to friends.
iv tried lg bridge and it doesnt work, but thanks chaz, my laptop has been downloading the kdz file i will follow the steps when its done
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Yeah,
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Besides my wife's and my B&H Photo native US998 V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB) which we use daily...
I have one new (yes, actually new from Wal-mart) V30+ in box, and this recent mint V30+ off eBay. Both are former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. (Yes, came from Wal-Mart that way.) I tell myself these two are backups, in case of emergency. I probably only need one -- not two -- but I couldn't resist buying another.
I ALSO have a mint 2018 AT&T LG V35 flashed to Google Fi firmware, which I've taken out of the box once. I'm not sure what to do with that. I was hoping we would get bootloader unlock, TWRP, and root for the LG V35. There is some kind of remote bootloader unlock and root available, but not TWRP that I'm aware of...
All the other LG V30/V30+ I gave to family/sold to friends.
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hey can you please help me, so i did the upgrade and its on 8.0 android. the problem now is i dont know why when i try to add the weather widget id press and hold on the home screen then it shuts me out and locks the screen like i pressed the lock button but i didnt
Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster. Big thanks to this community for helping me with random roots throughout the years, but I've come across something I can't quite find definitive answers on and need some assistance.
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
So I've now decided I want to buy a 1+7 Pro and want to take advantage of their trade-in program, so I'd like to get the phone back to stock and unroot/relock it all up. I found a solid thread here but because of my special circumstances I'm concerned there will be a bit more to it. The phone has the AT&T logo on the back, so if 1+ gets it and it's an unlocked 998, I'm not sure they'd give me and money for it. Without getting too into the weeds, I just want to know if anyone has advice or can point me to a post detailing this specific circumstance. Do I need to re-convert to a h931 before relocking? If I go back to stock/relock as a 998, will AT&T still work alright? I just don't want to mess something up and brick my phone.
Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
To my understanding, AT&T doesn't share KDZs anywhere, so I don't think it's possible to convert your phone back to H931. I could be wrong.
Otherwise the general steps would be:
1) Revert to stock by flashing US998 KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Phone must be completely stock before relocking the bootloader.
2) Boot into fastboot mode and relock bootloader with fastboot oem lock.
3) Flash the carrier firmware KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Again, in the case of AT&T I don't think it exists.
The reason for this sequence is that the carrier firmware may not allow fastboot.
Edit: Oh, of course if H932 users should see this: Do NOT ever flash the US998 KDZ. Just flash the latest H932 KDZ and use that to relock the bootloader.
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
jptV30 said:
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
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Right. But a mint US998 can be sold on eBay for $160-$170 right now...
There's your trade in value, in cash.
WTF REDDIT THREAD
protagonest said:
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
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Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
Update H931 (AT&T) to Android Pie! (Walkthrough)
This is just the "bootloader unlock warning" screen. It's just a scary picture LG shows you as the phone boots to discourage you from unlocking your bootloader. Ignore it. It will NOT prevent you from doing anything.
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I see they got a "Platinum" award on Reddit?
Well, at least they gave me credit! They combined my Frankenstein and WTF instructions, but focused on H931 and stripped out all the stuff that applied to other V30 variants. (Which is why WTF is like a decision tree -- if you have this variant do X, if you have that variant do Y -- until in Section 5 everyone ends up at the same bootloader unlock "starting line" with fastboot flash commands and early Oreo firmware.)
Everything is cool. They gave me credit and asked people to hit thanks button several times for me here on XDA in return. :good:
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However, the rest of their walkthrough is about custom ROMs, and they credited two other worthy people for that section.
In neither Frankenstein nor WTF, I do not really mention custom ROMs. Because that's not the purpose of either thread.
Frankenstein is to convert your phone to another North American V30 variants -- either to carrier unlock your phone or to instill fastboot flash commands, or both.
For WTF -- it's to unlock your V30 bootloader, install TWRP and get you rooted. (So, some phones like H931 need to take a side trip to Frankenstein thread, but other phones like H930 or H930DS don't need that, as they already have fastboot flash commands.)
Only in the Root Sticky I wrote, I warn H931/H933 takes "extra prep work" for custom ROMs and that all phones should be updated back to latest stock firmware prior to installing custom ROMs. If they have H931/H933, I leave it to them to find out more, as I don't want to scare them off.
Someone once mentioned doing something like this guy did on Reddit thread for ALL V30 variants -- one bootloader unlock/root thread for each variant. US998, H931, H933, LS998, VS996, H930, H930D, H930G, H930DS, AS998, H932 (both T-mobile and Puerto Rico), and that's not even mentioning the Korean variants! But that would be severe overkill and a lot of redundancy. The way WTF is designed, it can handle EVERY V30 on the planet (except for T-mobile H932), as long as you follow decision tree choices. There is a separate thread for T-mobile H932, because it's separate procedure involving a Linux boot disc and other stuff.
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Oh, to the last guy asking questions in that Reddit thread? (duplicate questions) Tell him in Frankenstein conversion, he either didn't do a Master Reset after flashing to Nougat (not following all the steps) or he mistakenly flashed Oreo US998 first, probably thinking they didn't need to flash Nougat (not following all the steps). That's why his phone is bootlooping.
ChazzMatt said:
WTF REDDIT THREAD
Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
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Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
protagonest said:
Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
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Vast majority prefer carrier unlocked phones, not necessary bootloader unlocked and rooted. With the scary bootloader unlock warning about "possible corruption" just best to re- lock bootloader before selling it.
Flash to US998 20H, then relock bootloader.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
Dinou Sellami said:
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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And that is exactly correct. It won't get updates as a 998 nor as a used-to-be 931. While yes, of course, some people will understand that and know how to apply an update, **THE VAST MAJORITY** of buyers WILL NOT.
Given that limitation, be sure you state that specifically when selling it. As Dinou says, ebay will be on yer butt otherwise.
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but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
ChazzMatt said:
No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
jptV30 said:
If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
ChazzMatt said:
That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
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Flashing the stock h931 rom will get you close but the BL will still be unlocked(but there is no message on bootup). It has the stock att boot animation.
Notes:
It wipes your internal storage when flashing.
OTA will no longer work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
br0adband said:
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
jptV30 said:
H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
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Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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br0adband said:
I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
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You DO have CDMA radio if you converted your H931 to US998. You can't use it on Sprint and Verizon because neither will take an H931 -- NOT because your NOW-US998 doesn't have CDMA.
Sprint won't even take US998 as they only take their own branded LS998 (which is why you have to activate LS998 on Sprint BEFORE Frankenstein, bootloader unlock and root).
Verizon conversely looks only at IMEI, and they see it as H931 even if it's now US998 with CDMA. Be interesting to see what happens when Verizon DROPS CDMA end of this year!
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br0adband said:
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing .
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It was converted to Open Market US998. DON'T call it "U.S. Cellular" US998. It's NOT. Many U.S. Cellular phones are carrier locked, and U.S. Cellular only takes phones they sell -- so if a U.S. Cellular customer bought it they would be disappointed.
NO, the bootloader unlock warning will not appear because he's going to lock it back.
Yes, clearly state no refunds.
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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TheDannemand said:
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Thank you for bringing some clarity to the discussion.
Yes, relock the bootloader and try the trade in. OnePlus isn't going to look at it that carefully, except to verify it's working. They're immediately going to turn around and WHOLESALE to an eBay dealer -- WHO WILL SELL IT ON EBAY.
The eBay dealer will probably swap out the back panel to get rid of the AT&T logo. It'll be sold as US998, which is what it is.
br0adband said:
The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
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H931 does have CDMA radio... I don't know where you are getting your information from... but like I've said... the four models I listed all have the exact same hardware...
You are confusing hardware compatibility with carrier policy...
I didn't say anything about H932...
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Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
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How do you know it's not an issue? How do you know what is happening between the buyers and sellers on eBay? How do you know how many phones were returned... partial refunds given... or disputes filed? You don't...
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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Actually... you are acting like you've never done anything on eBay... if you sell a crossflashed phone and you don't state it's crossflashed... you'd have 0% chance of winning the dispute... absolutely 0%...
I recently bought an LG v30 US998, however I'm thinking it may be a converted H931 because of an AT&T logo on the back. Is there a way to tell for sure which version I got?
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I recently bought an LG v30 US998, however I'm thinking it may be a converted H931 because of an AT&T logo on the back. Is there a way to tell for sure which version I got?
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If it was flashed to US998 firmware, it's now US998 -- including all bands, etc.
It is now carrier unlocked and you can manually flash any US998 updates. I've converted a few Sprint LS998 to US998.
If you are merely curious if it was originally AT&T H931, you can do an IMEI number check on any of several online databases.
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The only drawback to former AT&T H931 converted to "native" USS98 is same as former Canada H933 -- both need lots of extra prep to run AOSP/LINEAGE custom ROMs, if that's what you intended to do. (I run rooted stock firmware, so it wouldn't bother me.)
Both have to be at least temporarily converted to US998 for bootloader unlock and root.
I do intend to run LineageOS on it, so that's where my concern lies
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I do intend to run LineageOS on it, so that's where my concern lies
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Then return it.
Most US998 you will see on eBay are former something else. Usually LS998.
If you use Swappa to buy, they don't allow converted phones. IMEI has to match.
I use eBay, because I understand the market and I don't care if it's a converted phone -- especially if it was a former LS998 V30+.
You should get US998 V30+ (128GB). It can't be former H931/H933 as those models only came in 64GB.
ChazzMatt said:
Then return it.
Most US998 you will see on eBay are former something else. Usually LS998.
If you use Swappa to buy, they don't allow converted phones. IMEI has to match.
I use eBay, because I understand the market and I don't care if it's a converted phone -- especially if it was a former LS998 V30+.
You should get US998 V30+ (128GB). It can't be former H931/H933 as those models only came in 64GB.
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I checked an IMEI TAC database, and while most didn't have it listed, the one that did said that it was a H931. Oddly enough I did buy it from Swappa, so maybe they changed their terms (or possibly didn't have the TAC in their db). I'll be getting V30+. I believe the right model number is US998U? Thank you for your help
I was able to figure it out only by creating an account on the LG website. When I did that, I found it WAS a Sprint phone prior to my purchase, but had already been Frankensteined.
Somehow this affected the OTA updates for me, but I'm not sure how