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Hey XDA, I haven't been on here since my Samsung S2 years ago. I picked up a new moto Z for daydream, (amazon 499 special, 64 gb luna grey unlocked, retus software, 650-03). I bought it from the american amazon, and I am in canada. I popped in my Sasktel sim card and it works perfectly.
My questions are:
How do I manually flash nougat?
If I flash to the rogers 45 firmware, will I still be able to use my Sasktel sim?
How long until nougat comes out regardless? Should I just wait?
If I do flash to this "rogers 45 nougat", can I go back to my "vanilla" stock later? ( i just want daydream now, i bought the headset already. then when my area gets nougat, ill flash back to my phones nougat.. or does it make a difference?)
Sorry for the really random questions. I couldn't find the answers to these on the forums or on google. (reddit has been saying just wait, and don't flash)
You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
enetec said:
Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
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Going to start a new thread so as not to hijack this one
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
enetec said:
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own - opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Yes very good tutorial, I really likes to write something like this but I'm not good in English
Thanks again
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Thanks again
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Ahahahaha, this is only "chatting" in not-so-good-English ... :laugh:
Thanx for you *great* development here instead! :highfive:
enetec said:
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Wow! Thank you for the response! This answered pretty much all of my questions, but also sparked a few more. The Moto Z was a pretty big purchase for me so I am in no hurry to lose functionality. A lot of people are using translators on here, so I'll be simple (sorry if it comes off as blunt or rude, typing with translators in mind)
I want to stay on android 7. Downgrading to 6.0 is not a worry for me.
I want to get future updates from my carrier. (official android/moto updates and security patches. I want to be able to use the "Google Tango" mod, if it comes out)
I want to be able to use the projector mod and daydream.
I do not plan on rooting my phone (maybe later), and I do not want to unlock my bootloader.
Will the retmx nougat be different then the copy of nougat I would get from retus?
Finally, is there any benefit to waiting for the OTA? Or am I getting the exact same copy of nougat on XDA, that I would in three weeks from OTA? I already bought the daydream headset, am I waiting for nothing?
*two more questions I guess*
Do I need a SD card?
do I need to unlock my bootloader to do this upgrade?
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/update-to-7-0-nougat-xt1650-03-retus-t3513095)
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245)
Sorry for all the questions. I have looked all over XDA and haven't been able to find an answer (reddit, and google too :/). I am hoping that other people will be able to read this, and have their questions answered as well.
Again, thank you. You guys are really smart.
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You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
Porcelainfog said:
Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
Based on your expressed needs... I'll just wait your OTA. Nothing more. It's only a matter of weeks anyway...
Sorry for being a newb and asking here but I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this.
I was originally on MM and upgraded to Nougat on unlocked I international Moto Z.
I then decided to install TWRP, root and try a new ROM. If I want to go back to stock Nougat can't it just be a case of flashing the Nougat update I have download on my computer through ODIN or is it going to be a little more complex than that?
Thanks for any help
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
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Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
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Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
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holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
Dawnhawk said:
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
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LOL, of course they did!
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Porcelainfog said:
Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
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holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
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Cool. And ya re ADB haha
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked​ for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5
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I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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Ok. If you're wanting to do 100% stock, download the complete zip for 20c from http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5/H830/H83020c/LG-H83020c-Flashable.COMPLETE-ARB01.zip there. Put it on your extsd card. Backup everything that is on your internal sd (phone memory) like pictures, videos, SMS, etc. Once you've done that, boot to TWRP. Once in TWRP wipe everything except externalsd card, I also recommend using the format option to format the internal sd. Once you've wiped and preferably formatted data go to install and install the 20c complete zip you put on your extsd card. After it's done installing just reboot. This will overwrite TWRP and you will NOT have root. Your bootloader will still be unlocked though, so you still need a PC to relock your bootloader. Also I don't think encryption will be re enabled unless you flash the kdz though. Anyways that's your best way to return to stock without using PC.
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There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked​ for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5
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Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
Sent from my LGE LG-H830 using XDA Labs
Nick216ohio said:
Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
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I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
Update:
I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505
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I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
Update:
I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505
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Thanks bro. I totally believe it because past phones had exact issue.
Sent from my LGE LG-H830 using XDA Labs
Just for clarification, if you're on Android 7, you can not downgrade to Android 6 without first downgrading your bootloader as it won't flash correctly. Also just something to always keep in mind with LG phone's at least, is that LG uses a antirollback system. Never attempt to downgrade from a higher ARB # to a lower ARB #, if you're somehow successful it will lead to a hard brick. Every firmware that autoprime has posted states what antirollback number it is on, so always check that. On h830, every firmware since 10D has been ARB01, only 10A or earlier was ARB0. While lgup shouldn't allow you to flash (should error out), no reason to take that chance. Hopefully that helps clarify
Help!
I've had a verizon V30 I unlocked and rooted via the frankenstein method a few years ago.
I was running out of space recently and did some cursory research about 'my verizon' app and it was pretty large, so I made a titanium backup and then deleted it. Also did this for the basic 'messages' app built in.
Noticed the phone was a little laggy and having some hang issues after that so I rebooted. It's stuck on a Verizon splash screen with a few colorful dots.. seems stuck there.
I've tried clearing the cache and booting into safe mode all with the same result. I really do not want to do a factory reset.
What are my next steps for troubleshooting this or trying to restore that program? Any help is appreciated--I've tried to search a bit but not finding a good first step towards trying to resolve this.
Thanks!
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Help!
I've had a verizon V30 I unlocked and rooted via the frankenstein method a few years ago.
I was running out of space recently and did some cursory research about 'my verizon' app and it was pretty large, so I made a titanium backup and then deleted it. Also did this for the basic 'messages' app built in.
Noticed the phone was a little laggy and having some hang issues after that so I rebooted. It's stuck on a Verizon splash screen with a few colorful dots.. seems stuck there.
I've tried clearing the cache and booting into safe mode all with the same result. I really do not want to do a factory reset.
What are my next steps for troubleshooting this or trying to restore that program? Any help is appreciated--I've tried to search a bit but not finding a good first step towards trying to resolve this.
Thanks!
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Early on with the verizon V30 roms I found that uninstalling some of the bloatware caused boot loops. From then on I just froze them; doesnt help your space situatuon though...
If no other suggestions, you could try a dirty flash of the ROM you were running (assuming you flashed TWRP zip).
I believe you'll need MyVerizon anyway, as this is what enables VOLTE and VOWIFI on Verizon (for me, at least). So I would not recommend removing it anyway.
Granted, you're past that. I would think that dirty-flashing the ROM should restore it, potentially? That could be one way to get back to running. Another way might be to reload the APK somehow. You might need to use TWRP to do that, unless there's another way to do it from a TiBu backup? If I can help in some way (I'm on VS996) I'm happy to try.
Unless you actually deleted the apps from System, it's almost certain that a Factory Reset will solve it. But I can understand your reluctance.
I'm not sure a dirty flash will help, since the problem is your data partition. You already tried deleting cache (I presume in TWRP).
And I agree that if you could somehow reload the apk, that might do it. Does ADB install work in TWRP, despite no OS? If so, that's worth trying. First pull the apks you removed from System to your computer, then run adb install apk-filename.
But FIRST make a full TWRP data backup of what you have now!
If you have to Factory Reset, you can use TiBu to restore your user apps from that backup. I haven't tried that in years, but I assume TiBu still has this feature.
Fingers crossed for you :fingers-crossed:
And for others who see this: Careful, selective debloating IS possible, but it always starts with a full backup: TWRP if rooted, otherwise LG Backup, (which saves app data and most OS settings).
Thanks all for responses, appreciated so much. In a bit of a pinch as I needed my phone for a backpacking trip last weekend, I just moved forward as best I could on Friday. Generally I tweak my phone enough to unlock/root then let it be. I guess I got greedy/complacent try trying to de-verizonify it and clear some space as much as possible.
Two things
1) Immediate solution, and still seeking some advice:
I used LGUP to flash the Android 9 kdz as an upgrade I think to the phone. Because I had TWRP as my recovery that ran into an encryption error (I subsequently saw this caveat/warning further down in one of ChazzMatt's posts), and due to that was required to wipe/clear everything.
So now I have 'benefits' of Android 9 but no root. However my bootloader is still unlocked.. so I am still seeking advice how I can get Android 9 root. Please don't tell me I have to go back to 8 and do some stuff before going back to 9 with root. I didn't actually see in any guide how to root on 9. But it is possible I missed it/just need to apply same sequence as shown as on the guide for doing so on 8.
I'm on 30c version of PIE and keep getting bugged to install a system update which I keep putting off because I'm leery of that..but I can't freeze the process without root.
Also because I flashed the stock OS, that means I lost the custom recovery, I don't have TWRP anymore (this seems so, but looking for confirmation), right?
2) retrospect, and a question for future reference
After all this I realized like an idiot I had a TWRP backup made in 2018 after I first unlocked and rooted it. Just hanging out on my SD card, which I could have accessed via TWRP before I flashed the KDZ. If I would have restored that it would have re-installed the OS and retained my data. Is that considered a dirty flash though, like it might not have worked or had subsequent problems?
And secondly on the SD card, I found all the 'dank memes' and other downloads I was worried I'd lost, so most of the data loss tragedy :silly: was averted (main pics backup to cloud, learned that lesson after lg g4 hardware bootloop pain).
water- said:
1) Immediate solution, and still seeking some advice:
I used LGUP to flash the Android 9 kdz as an upgrade I think to the phone. Because I had TWRP as my recovery that ran into an encryption error (I subsequently saw this caveat/warning further down in one of ChazzMatt's posts), and due to that was required to wipe/clear everything.
So now I have 'benefits' of Android 9 but no root. However my bootloader is still unlocked.. so I am still seeking advice how I can get Android 9 root. Please don't tell me I have to go back to 8 and do some stuff before going back to 9 with root. I didn't actually see in any guide how to root on 9. But it is possible I missed it/just need to apply same sequence as shown as on the guide for doing so on 8.
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With unlocked bootloader on Pie, here's how you reinstall TWRP (IF you are on firmware with fastboot flash commands). Yes, I made a standalone post for this -- but if you read it it's basically just Section 6 of WTF Instructions. However, I had to make a standalone post because too many people kept thinking they had to downgrade back to Oreo, etc.
So, you can reinstall TWRP on Pie if you have unlocked bootloader. The problem is you need to fastboot flash commands to do that. VS996 firmware does not have that, which is why VS996 owners have to TEMPORARILY convert to US998 in the first place to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root. Yes, your bootloader is already unlocked, but on VS996 you don't have the necessary fastboot flash commands to reinstall TWRP.
Thus, you will need to go back to US998 firmware (flashing KDZ via Dev Patched LGUP) to get fastboot flash commands. You can do it the hard way (US998 Pie KDZ) or you can do it the easy way (US998 Oreo KDZ). With already unlocked bootloader, you don't need to go back early Oreo, you can go to last Oreo. I don't recommend flashing US998 Pie for this, as there's too many people who have trouble with US998 Pie (stuck on LG logo, etc). You just need to temporarily get fastboot flash commands, and get TWRP reinstalled.
That post I have linked in the first sentence is for unlocked Bootloader with fastboot flash commands, on any stock firmware (Pie, Oreo, even Nougat if you wanted that for some reason).
Once you reinstall TWRP, then you can go back to VS996 Pie firmware via TWRP flashable zip.
Thanks for your response, now and two years ago.. super appreciated
I only need to get to the point to put the phone in debug mode (with access to fastboot) to get TWRP installed after flashing the recent oreo kdz. After TWRP installed follow your instructions (thanks!) to flash TWRP pie..
I'll probably give it a go this weekend or tomorrow evening, but do you have a recommended link to US998 Oreo kdz? https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397933445 is fine?
Whereafter I'll follow your instructions for installing it (using LGUP patched) at: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
In the ROM section, go to ChazzMatt's US998 Pie KDZ thread. It also has instructions for rolling back to Oreo. Follow them to the t.
Make sure to use the Pie-compatible LGUP version in there when you roll back, and install it exactly as described in that thread.
His US998 Oreo thread will have a download link for Oreo 20h (the latest Oreo). Otherwise it's easy to find on lg-firmwares.com.
Good luck to you
Ok really that was pretty easy and not bad once I got everything lined up, did it in maybe 30 minutes or less. I'm in Pie with root now and TWRP recovery. Thank you for the help!
Two points:
1) after flashing TWRP, I got some issues when wiping, I was able to flash the VS996 ROM but kept seeing some red "twrp can't mount system" or something like this. It would be a hassle but do I need to go back and reformat/reflash? or do it dirty at least?
2) maybe related to the above, maybe (probably not) not.. and I realize magisk and other avenues might cover it these days but I'm trying to debloat the TWRP flashed VS996 ROM with Titanium Backup.. stuff like NFL and slacker radio, google music.. like I did on Oreo. But Titanium keeps giving me an error about 'can't find the apk' -- Ti says I have root. I have read a bit that Android 10 really packages the apps in there so it's not like you can just remove the ones you want. is this the case for 9 too?
suggestions for alternative tool if Titanium is kind of a dinosaur in that regard?
Thanks
Well done!
1) It's best to use Format Data in TWRP to avoid that mounting error. Unless you are certain you have no mounting problems, I would recommend doing that before spending more time setting up the OS.
2) Before trying to freeze apps with TiBu, see if they can be Disabled in the regular Apps menu. Most of the "optional" bloatware can. Of course make a TWRP backup before freezing anything with TWRP!
Water-, there is already a debloated Verizon 99630c rom out there somewhere, if you would like to try it. I'm on it now.
Sorry, I can't link it. It was made by micromod777. So do a search for him.
I also use tibu, but there is another app (?) out there called migrate that backs everything up. You might look for it and try it. (I did use it a month or so ago myself just to try it - - worked for me).
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Ok really that was pretty easy and not bad once I got everything lined up, did it in maybe 30 minutes or less. I'm in Pie with root now and TWRP recovery. Thank you for the help!
Two points:
1) after flashing TWRP, I got some issues when wiping, I was able to flash the VS996 ROM but kept seeing some red "twrp can't mount system" or something like this. It would be a hassle but do I need to go back and reformat/reflash? or do it dirty at least?
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You're welcome!
See points "f" and "g" of the screenshot. When you were installing TWRP I think you missed the "format data" part... And/or possibly the "reboot recovery" step immediately after.
If you were reading in an app (XDA or Tapatalk) instead of web browser, it's possible that section was truncated and you didn't see it.
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You're welcome!
See points "f" and "g" of the screenshot. When you were installing TWRP I think you missed the "format data" part... And/or possibly the "reboot recovery" step immediately after.
If you were reading in an app (XDA or Tapatalk) instead of web browser, it's possible that section was truncated and you didn't see it.
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hmmm
it's possible.. ..i definitely gave formatting a shot (hence the red errors.) and believe I rebooted to recovery.
Where I'm at now, OS booting/operating flawless (bloat aside) and root verified, can boot back into TWRP no problem...
recommended course of action?
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hmmm
it's possible.. ..i definitely gave formatting a shot (hence the red errors.) and believe I rebooted to recovery.
Where I'm at now, OS booting/operating flawless (bloat aside) and root verified, can boot back into TWRP no problem...
recommended course of action?
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Sorry, I'm in another hemisphere for several weeks on leave of absence for family matters. Didn't see this until now. Hope you got it worked out.
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Sorry, I'm in another hemisphere for several weeks on leave of absence for family matters. Didn't see this until now. Hope you got it worked out.
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Not a problem at all! Maybe you mistook this post for another, as you'd fairly promptly replied to me through here over the last two weeks! much to my appreciation.
Basically I'm saying when I was doing some of the wipe functions in TWRP before flashing the new OS, and while flashing it, I saw some red mount system error messages.
However my phone is fully functional, I can reboot into TWRP recovery, I'm not noticing any functional issues with it right now.
Can I ignore because functional phone and recovery access = functioning fully! or is there some check I should do or whatnot. I mean I could clear data and start over again but It's been a week+ of customizing and getting it how I like it, kind of a hassle if it's not needed/necessary.
Thanks
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Not a problem at all! Maybe you mistook this post for another, as you'd fairly promptly replied to me through here over the last two weeks! much to my appreciation.
Basically I'm saying when I was doing some of the wipe functions in TWRP before flashing the new OS, and while flashing it, I saw some red mount system error messages.
However my phone is fully functional, I can reboot into TWRP recovery, I'm not noticing any functional issues with it right now.
Can I ignore because functional phone and recovery access = functioning fully! or is there some check I should do or whatnot. I mean I could clear data and start over again but It's been a week+ of customizing and getting it how I like it, kind of a hassle if it's not needed/necessary.
Thanks
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Do you have encryption on? TWRP will show a mount error upon start, and prior to the passcode being entered.
Lineage installation on N200 REQUIRES that you are running Android 11 or phone will soft loop after installing the Lineage boot.img
If you are updated to Android 12 firmware and want to install Lineage, you MUST downgrade first to:
DE2117 OEM Android 11 FINAL OTA
WARNING: This WILL erase all user data.
1. Place the firmware .zip file in the user root of internal phone storage.
2. Sideload OnePlus firmware Downgrade Tool on phone and use tool to flash the Android 11 firmware.
There is an Emergency Firmware install tool that OnePlus posted to the OP forum that does NOT check root status when the need to downgrade back to A11 was first acknowledged due to modem issue with first A12 OTA release.
This file was removed in a few days when they posted the official Downgrade tool replaced it.
I have used this tool to upgrade DE2117 C_16 to DE2117 C_17 while rooted and the built in upgrade tool failed at 37%.
Nice, first thanks for the hard work you're putting in. Second, is there an advantage to converting first to DE2117 then installing lineage as opposed to just installing lineage from DE2118 that you know of? I know in the other post you answered my other question stating that the Lineage will install on either so I wasn't sure if I'd get any benefit from starting over and converting my DE2118. TIA
Link575 said:
Nice, first thanks for the hard work you're putting in. Second, is there an advantage to converting first to DE2117 then installing lineage as opposed to just installing lineage from DE2118 that you know of? I know in the other post you answered my other question stating that the Lineage will install on either so I wasn't sure if I'd get any benefit from starting over and converting my DE2118. TIA
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Lineage is using own kernel and boot.img on A11 so in the short run it is not going too make any difference, but when Lineage moves forward to A12 the OEM Firmware has newer drivers and is updated sooner, has more OEM features and bugfixes as well as no carrier bloatware.
It is possible that OP will neuter the Carrier firmware with an OTA update to prevent cross flashing device away from the Carrier rom in the next OTA update by preventing fastbootd from flashing the us oem from a carrier phone.
They have already removed fastboot boot command to boot a boot image without flashing it for test before you flash and to allow Magisk to make a backup of the original boot.img before adding Magisk.
I would convert NOW, before they decide to slam the door on this ability with a future OTA that will not allow you to downgrade and prevent this as they are under contract with the carriers to not allow this to be done.
Ok, thank you for the explanation. Guess I'll back everything up and convert it.
scanman0 said:
Lineage installation on N200 REQUIRES that you are running Android 11 or phone will soft loop after installing the Lineage boot.img
If you are updated to Android 12 firmware and want to install Lineage, you MUST downgrade first to:
DE2117 OEM Android 11 FINAL OTA
WARNING: This WILL erase all user data.
1. Place the firmware .zip file in the user root of internal phone storage.
2. Sideload OnePlus firmware Downgrade Tool on phone and use tool to flash the Android 11 firmware.
There is an Emergency Firmware install tool that OnePlus posted to the OP forum that does NOT check root status when the need to downgrade back to A11 was first acknowledged due to modem issue with first A12 OTA release.
This file was removed in a few days when they posted the official Downgrade tool replaced it.
I have used this tool to upgrade DE2117 C_16 to DE2117 C_17 while rooted and the built in upgrade tool failed at 37%.
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This worked perfectly after following your convert guide and upgrading to 12. Downgraded back to 11 so I could install lineageOS. Thanks again!
This reddit post has a link to an English version of the downgrade apk which makes it a little easier.
keeps saying verification failed
weirdfate said:
keeps saying verification failed
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Did you remove root (Restore boot.img) and then factory reset?
You will loose all data doing this anyway.
I m trying as well .. but stuck with verification failed message just as scanman0 I m on stock android12 no root if anyone know how to fix it ... please assit
I just downgraded. Make sure you remove root via magisk. Then proceed to rollback to Android 11. Everything worked fine. I'll install lineage tonight when I get home.
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I just downgraded. Make sure you remove root via magisk. Then proceed to rollback to Android 11. Everything worked fine. I'll install lineage tonight when I get home.
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I did not have to remove root. I used the version posted that does not check for root but maybe there's a different reason.
Does the downgrade apk have to be sideloaded via ADB?
T3CHN0T33N said:
Does the downgrade apk have to be sideloaded via ADB?
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Just place apk in phones working directory, same path where your downloads folder is. Then install from there like any other apk and run. I also kept the FW file in the same directory but I'm not sure if that was necessary.
So, just to confirm, I press "local install" and select the firmware zip and it closes? Is the tool supposed to do anything else or am I good to flash LineageOS?
T3CHN0T33N said:
So, just to confirm, I press "local install" and select the firmware zip and it closes? Is the tool supposed to do anything else or am I good to flash LineageOS?
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Ummm if I remember correctly hit local install and then it will prompt to point towards which FW to use. After you hit it, it will go back to the previous screen, I think verify and unpack it, then install it. Mine did appear like it was doing nothing after picking the FW and so I picked again which screwed things up so just wait after picking, it should start.
After its done it will give a message saying to restart phone I think for it to take effect, then after you restart it should ask to wipe phone, then restart again and you'd be in A11 presumably. Once in A11 your good to follow the normal procedure to install Lineage. This is all from memory though so I MAY have missed something but I don't think I did.
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Ummm if I remember correctly hit local install and then it will prompt to point towards which FW to use. After you hit it, it will go back to the previous screen, I think verify and unpack it, then install it. Mine did appear like it was doing nothing after picking the FW and so I picked again which screwed things up so just wait after picking, it should start.
After its done it will give a message saying to restart phone I think for it to take effect, then after you restart it should ask to wipe phone, then restart again and you'd be in A11 presumably. Once in A11 your good to follow the normal procedure to install Lineage. This is all from memory though so I MAY have missed something but I don't think I did.
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When you say "screwed things up" what do you mean? How did it effect the install?
T3CHN0T33N said:
When you say "screwed things up" what do you mean? How did it effect the install?
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Nothing major, caused the UI to glitch out and made it seem like the process was stuck at 81% but when I closed the app and tried to do it again it jumped to 100 and said to restart the device.
I've downgraded a second time (I'm very indecisive on which OS I want to use) and that one went as expected since I knew to give it a second to start doing its thing.
Link575 said:
Nothing major, caused the UI to glitch out and made it seem like the process was stuck at 81% but when I closed the app and tried to do it again it jumped to 100 and said to restart the device.
I've downgraded a second time (I'm very indecisive on which OS I want to use) and that one went as expected since I knew to give it a second to start doing its thing.
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Weird, for me it just closes the app and does nothing, both the official and emergency ones. I even tried adding it to magisk's deny-list.
But I just restored the boot image via magisk (didn't restart) and it works now...
scanman0 said:
Did you remove root (Restore boot.img) and then factory reset?
You will loose all data doing this anyway.
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Yes I factory restored the phone and tried again. Still fails every time
Has anybody had any luck figuring out the verification failed message? I too have tried both the official and emergency apps, of course I can't read the actual message in what I presume is Chinese, but it doesn't do anything and the other version says verification failed. Have not rooted. Kind of at a loss right now and all I want to do is install Lineage! I've already got my unlock token from OnePlus, but my understanding is that the phone still needs to be on A11 before installling Lineage.
Hello, just bought the One Plus Nord N20 unlocked version with the intent of rooting it and installing a ROM. I haven't turned it on because I don't want it to upload the latest security patch and make itself unrootable, so I have nothing to backup. Ideally I would want to install e/OS, but have not rooted nor unlocked the bootloader of a device since 2012, so I essentially know nothing. Can someone please explain if:
- Is this is possible?
- If it is, is it a bad idea?
- Is the GSI for e/OS absent for this phone, and is this an issue?
- Is using a GSI a placeholder until a true custom ROM is made?
- Should I wait until the process is more mature?
- I am told to wait until I know what I am doing. Where should I learn / practice since there is still little documentation for this specific phone?
Thank you for your time!
Oromis995
you have nothing to worry about with the updates if u have a gn2200 atleast as far as i know you should be abe to follow any of the root guides posted here
PsYk0n4uT said:
you have nothing to worry about with the updates if u have a gn2200 atleast as far as i know you should be abe to follow any of the root guides posted here
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Thank you, that's helpful
PsYk0n4uT said:
you have nothing to worry about with the updates if u have a gn2200 atleast as far as i know you should be abe to follow any of the root guides posted here
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Is this still the case? I read another thread that says this may be the reason it no longer works.
oromis995 said:
Hello, just bought the One Plus Nord N20 unlocked version with the intent of rooting it and installing a ROM. I haven't turned it on because I don't want it to upload the latest security patch and make itself unrootable, so I have nothing to backup. Ideally I would want to install e/OS, but have not rooted nor unlocked the bootloader of a device since 2012, so I essentially know nothing. Can someone please explain if:
- Is this is possible?
- If it is, is it a bad idea?
- Is the GSI for e/OS absent for this phone, and is this an issue?
- Is using a GSI a placeholder until a true custom ROM is made?
- Should I wait until the process is more mature?
- I am told to wait until I know what I am doing. Where should I learn / practice since there is still little documentation for this specific phone?
Thank you for your time!
Oromis995
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If you think you don't need a backup because "you've not turned your phone on yet", you should probably think twice about trying to flash custom software. Especially GSI...
Just trying to save you some heart ache down the road. Cheers
mobile_sensei said:
If you think you don't need a backup because "you've not turned your phone on yet", you should probably think twice about trying to flash custom software. Especially GSI...
Just trying to save you some heart ache down the road. Cheers
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I meant data. I know that I need the partitions
oromis995 said:
Is this still the case? I read another thread that says this may be the reason it no longer works.
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if you decide to use the security patch it came with stock then be sure not to connect tp the internet at all because once its unlocked and rooted and downloads an update dsu sideloader will not work until that update is dealt with and system updates wont work while bootloader unlocked and definitely not going to work if any partitions are modified(not stock such as magisk patched boot image). im not sure about the september update but some did have issues with the august patch although others were successful so it may have just been user error. my suggestion is to just put dsu sideloader and a prerooted gsi on an sdcard or transfer via pc/usb cord to internal storage but don't connect to the internet and use that to gain root long enough to pull your full stock partitions backups. this would be playing it safe. then ifnyou want you can relock your bootloader and update to september/newest and pull another full backup so you have it in the case that ypur successful and if not then your bases are covered to downgrade and downgrading will be as easy as simply reflashing all the stock images you pulled the first time though you shouldnt have to reflash ALL of them but in case you want to / need to then u have them. I cant stress backups enough. I use Partitions Backup & Restore by Wanam from playstore or wherever u want to download it unless u prefer to dd everything but i like the gui its just easier. read my post on how to root any n20 as there are somegood tips there and a great response detailing the procedure and dmtec also posted a much more detailed guide. i still havr a device on May patch and the other on July