I tried forcing the Tango update on my Lumia 800 and it took me an hour of disconnecting to get the useless 8112. Tried again for another hour for the next update and still nothing.
Is this how updates are supposed to be done ? Or should I just wait 3 months for the phone to realize there's an update ? (legit questions)
Notice it became available a week ago (not on the promised 27th June; also, some people are still waiting) and magically the phone and Zune are both still unaware of it.
This is some really dumb stuff, Microsoft.
June 27 (or whatever date they announced) is when they begin roll out, not when it will be instantly available for your region.
There could be many reasons why they chose the dates they have for rolling out the update.
Some of the few:
1) Limit problems, if they release it to everyone and find out after many testing that it manages to brick phones, everyone will come in and complain. For assurance and risk reduction, its safer to release it in small markets to large markets.
2) Waiting for carriers, some carriers won't allow an update through until they do their own testing that the phone works on their networks (since they will be the one contacted by angry customers if something were to go wrong)
The disconnect trick is for those who want the update asap. If you can't wait a few weeks then by all means continue wasting time to get an update you consider useless. You could have even forced the install through the cab method. And it shouldn't have taken you an hour to do it; an easy misstep would be to forget to put the phone in airplane mode with wifi off.
You may think their process is dumb, but not many people know (including me) in full detail what Microsoft has to go through to get an update out. There could be regulation (FCC), legal ramifications and all sorts of headache that made Microsoft do what they do.
inket said:
I tried forcing the Tango update on my Lumia 800 and it took me an hour of disconnecting to get the useless 8112. Tried again for another hour for the next update and still nothing.
Is this how updates are supposed to be done ? Or should I just wait 3 months for the phone to realize there's an update ? (legit questions)
Notice it became available a week ago (not on the promised 27th June; also, some people are still waiting) and magically the phone and Zune are both still unaware of it.
This is some really dumb stuff, Microsoft.
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You're complaining because a trick isn't working for you. The trick is not the intended method of updating.
Updates are rolled out in stages. The normal process is to wait for your phone to be updated as and when the companies choose.
@ekw: I had Wi-Fi and Data connection disabled and kept trying with no luck.
I cabbed 8773 today and it finally installed. Weirdly, the phone detected the Nokia update moments after the restart. Why can't OS updates be like that ?
That's what I meant by this thread. Microsoft seems to be either really dumb or just doing it on purpose.
Apple always releases updates on time, and they have no problems with server limits (even though there's 300m active iOS users) or carriers.
Seems to me like an easy problem with a difficult solution. The fact that we all could update using cab sender proves that there's an easy solution, yet, sadly, unofficial.
Blame the carriers. Only Apple has the market clout to force carriers to do things their way.
Hello everyone,
Yesterday i updated my S9+ from Android 8.0 to Android 9.0. Now in the setup of android 9.0 it keeps on checking for updates and never goes past it. I have experienced this probably many times before when i would factory reset my mobile phones here in china. I have no idea how to fix it this time in my S9+. Back in the day in my old phones i would disconnect from Wifi, take out the sim and it would just skip the checking for updates part. Google and all related services are banned here in china maybe this is the reason it won't go past the checking for updates part since it connects to google servers to check for updates and google servers are banned in china in the first place? that's just my guess.
I'm currently in china due to studies and i'll be here for 2-3 more years so i'm gonna run into this problem a lot i think so If someone could tell me a way around it i would really appreciate it.
I apologize for my terrible English.
Try VPN on Android like lantern and you can use GMS. hope this can solve your problem.
After last update my phone is not connecting to pc. I checked the installed drivers and updated them. Also tried different cables and tried on my laptop as well. It is charging but not showing up on windows. It is also not detecting otg drives. Any help?
Clear system cache.
Hard reboot.
Check all associated settings as the update may have altered them.
Never update if your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission. Security for Android 9 and above is not a major concern unless you do something stupid. Not a valid reason to update.
Cause there's no saving dumb bunnies...
Me too, but with a S10e, waiting for next update.
Hi all,
Every time my phone automatically downloads an OEM update, it's telling me to update my phone, and I can defer the updates after 4 times. After that, I can't defer the updates. It just updates automatically, and each time, my phone is getting slower and slower and slower which I don't want at all.
Also, auto-update system is off on developer options. So I am at a loss now.
Not sure if there is really anything you can do about it. My phone doesn't seem any slower.
Are you absolutely sure it's the update that is slowing down the phone?
yep
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Are you absolutely sure it's the update that is slowing down the phone?
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Sorry for the late reply. I'll admit I do have a good chunk of apps in my phone, but it's an experience thing that I have with samsung phones.
When I had the S9 (from verizon, not sure on model), I still kept Android Oreo because I took use of a software bug that let's you keep your android version without updating your phone, and one of my relatives, same phone model, was updating their phone to the latest version because they have to after a certain number of defers. Note that I do have a good chunk of apps on my old phone, but my phone was a lot faster and responsive than my relatives phone, being that their phone only had a few apps and mine having more apps than theirs.
If I have to update the phone, then I will update the phone. I don't want an automatic update, and then all of a sudden, different problems occur that has never happened on the last build.
I have two T-Mobile's OnePlus N200 5G
One of them got Android 12 about 6 weeks ago.
Second one (received from T-Mobile few days ago under Trade In offer) is still on Android 11 and does not get any update (April 1 security patch of Android 11 is the last). Manual check does not get updates too.
How can I install Android 12 on this device?
it depends on what you want out of the phone.
T-Mobile pulled the Android 12 update back into development:
OnePlus 10 Pro 5G: Update to Android 13
Find out about the Android update on the OnePlus 10 Pro 5G.
www.t-mobile.com
I've not read anywhere as to the reason why they pulled it back, but clearly it must have been something significant enough that they suspended the rollout, rather than just fixing it with the next update.
My family also has two N200s, and one of them did the upgrade to 12. My son's is on 12 and has had few issues with his, and nothing significant to my knowledge. i kept delaying the update on mine until finally the update message went away when they pulled the update back, so i'm still on 11 and working just fine.
You could wait until T-Mobile addresses whatever they wanted to fix, and they push the update back out again via OTA (this is the solution i'm going to go with)
Not sure if the OOS12 image for the T-Mobile variant has been available on XDA, but you could check other threads here to see if anyone has it to download and install. you'd need to check whatever instructions are available on whatever thread you find it in to do that.
but, if you are wanting to go through the work of doing an OS install outside of the normal OTA, you may want to just check about the new official LineageOS being available for the N200. (if you want to try LineageOS, you would need to be on 11 to begin with anyway, which is conveniently where you are currently at)
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it depends on what you want out of the phone.
T-Mobile pulled the Android 12 update back into development:
OnePlus 10 Pro 5G: Update to Android 13
Find out about the Android update on the OnePlus 10 Pro 5G.
www.t-mobile.com
I've not read anywhere as to the reason why they pulled it back, but clearly it must have been something significant enough that they suspended the rollout, rather than just fixing it with the next update.
My family also has two N200s, and one of them did the upgrade to 12. My son's is on 12 and has had few issues with his, and nothing significant to my knowledge. i kept delaying the update on mine until finally the update message went away when they pulled the update back, so i'm still on 11 and working just fine.
You could wait until T-Mobile addresses whatever they wanted to fix, and they push the update back out again via OTA (this is the solution i'm going to go with)
Not sure if the OOS12 image for the T-Mobile variant has been available on XDA, but you could check other threads here to see if anyone has it to download and install. you'd need to check whatever instructions are available on whatever thread you find it in to do that.
but, if you are wanting to go through the work of doing an OS install outside of the normal OTA, you may want to just check about the new official LineageOS being available for the N200. (if you want to try LineageOS, you would need to be on 11 to begin with anyway, which is conveniently where you are currently at)
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I updated to 12 on my phone and had some issues so I msm'd back to 11 a week or so ago and just this morning got the notification for 12 again but with security updates for july. Perhaps they fixed some things up. Now that I know I can fall back to 11 no problem I will try out 12 again eventually.
I updated to 12 a couple weeks ago, I straight away noticed a problem receiving text msgs. I'd get the notification but when I went into messaging the text were gone. I was thinking about getting the phone replaced but thought to check for an update and Boom, there was an update saying RCS publish fix. I'm hoping I will no longer have the text disappearing. So far it looks fixed. I hope this helps
strange. Tmobile must be in some wonky dual development path hell.
I never completed the update to 12 when it was temporarily giving the messages to update, and it currently is still not giving me any messages about update, and Tmobile website says 12 is still in development. So they must still be working to put out a full 12 package for people to update from 11 to 12 who have never done so.
but if you've already updated to 12, then like duhhhm8, Tmobile is pushing an incremental update?
then there is Deejayadhd, who did update, then downgrated, and is getting the incremental message too? perhaps your device is tagged as having already updated to 12 so it's sending the incremental to you. it will be interesting how that will work. will the system figure out that it needs to send the full package again, or will it try to send the incremental 12 update to install into the current 11 system.
well, wtf.
my phone is just sitting there charging.
i go and doubletap the screen to wake it up, because i hear that i received a notification.
for a fraction of a second it shows the tmobile logo, and goes black/off.
turn it back on, and 12 gets installed and i'm looking at the app optimization %
no prompt to choose whether i wanted to or not, nothing.
just shut itself off and upgraded itself
whelp. bugs or no bugs, i guess i'm getting to see how 12 works out
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well, wtf.
my phone is just sitting there charging.
i go and doubletap the screen to wake it up, because i hear that i received a notification.
for a fraction of a second it shows the tmobile logo, and goes black/off.
turn it back on, and 12 gets installed and i'm looking at the app optimization %
no prompt to choose whether i wanted to or not, nothing.
just shut itself off and upgraded itself
whelp. bugs or no bugs, i guess i'm getting to see how 12 works out
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if you hated 12 (I won't blame you), MSM back to 11 and go in developer options and disable automatic system updates and you should be able to install the april patch. after that, it shouldn't automatically reboot.
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if you hated 12 (I won't blame you), MSM back to 11 and go in developer options and disable automatic system updates and you should be able to install the april patch. after that, it shouldn't automatically reboot.
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well, so far i think i've been ok. no major issues on 12 for me.
i think the one most irritating is the poor gmail/google notifications.
but my previous phone had the problem of the background updater kept getting killed so i would frequently go into accounts and uncheck gmail sync and recheck gmail sync to restart the background process and get my notifications working again.
so i'm already in the habit of regularly checking if gmail sync/notifications are working anyway. just a bummer that it was ok on 11, and now it's borked on 12 and i'm now back to old habits to address
I had absolutely nothing but problems with 12.. I had the original update.. Msm's to 11... Got the new android 12 update... Fixed a lot... But honestly... Didn't work great. I eventually called oneplus' support line to fix the bug about having a snapdragon 855... They said they were putting it on there to do list. So.. Cool. But then... Lineage OS was released for it.. And I was like: by Oxygen OS (Color OS brother/sister at this point). I had one issue with Lineage, but I think it might be device-specific (meaning my individual device). The Lineage OS update is phenomenal! It makes Color OS... I mean Oxygen OS 12, seem slow. Very slow.
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I have two T-Mobile's OnePlus N200 5G
One of them got Android 12 about 6 weeks ago.
Second one (received from T-Mobile few days ago under Trade In offer) is still on Android 11 and does not get any update (April 1 security patch of Android 11 is the last). Manual check does not get updates too.
How can I install Android 12 on this device?
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in an update it does get android 12. Mine is one android 12 now after an update 2 weeks ago
I ended up downloading the update before it was pulled and have so many regrets. The most crippling issue is a seemingly unfixable bug that causes both wifi and cell signal to cut out at random, which is effecting both me and my other family members with the same phone. I also just generally hate the weird psudeo-ColorOS that i've been using. Sadly an authenticator app I need to use for work would make wiping the thing in the name of the OS downgrade too much of a pain, so I've just decided to order a different phone at this point.