Hi all,
Every time my phone automatically downloads an OEM update, it's telling me to update my phone, and I can defer the updates after 4 times. After that, I can't defer the updates. It just updates automatically, and each time, my phone is getting slower and slower and slower which I don't want at all.
Also, auto-update system is off on developer options. So I am at a loss now.
Not sure if there is really anything you can do about it. My phone doesn't seem any slower.
Are you absolutely sure it's the update that is slowing down the phone?
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kenbo111 said:
Are you absolutely sure it's the update that is slowing down the phone?
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Sorry for the late reply. I'll admit I do have a good chunk of apps in my phone, but it's an experience thing that I have with samsung phones.
When I had the S9 (from verizon, not sure on model), I still kept Android Oreo because I took use of a software bug that let's you keep your android version without updating your phone, and one of my relatives, same phone model, was updating their phone to the latest version because they have to after a certain number of defers. Note that I do have a good chunk of apps on my old phone, but my phone was a lot faster and responsive than my relatives phone, being that their phone only had a few apps and mine having more apps than theirs.
If I have to update the phone, then I will update the phone. I don't want an automatic update, and then all of a sudden, different problems occur that has never happened on the last build.
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My apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I searched and couldn't find the answer. I have a galaxy s2. the galaxy s 2 is the gt9100. The phone is unlocked, wasn't bought from a carrier etc. running totally stock, no root.
My question is, why is my galaxy s2 still on 2.3.4, when overseas international galaxies are running higher versions? I know it's not because I'm waiting on a carrier. Is it Samsung new Zealand who has to approve the update through kies and they have just been too useless to do it so far? Does my region matter on an international unlocked phone?
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My apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I searched and couldn't find the answer. I have a galaxy s2. the galaxy s 2 is the gt9100. The phone is unlocked, wasn't bought from a carrier etc. running totally stock, no root.
My question is, why is my galaxy s2 still on 2.3.4, when overseas international galaxies are running higher versions? I know it's not because I'm waiting on a carrier. Is it Samsung new Zealand who has to approve the update through kies and they have just been too useless to do it so far? Does my region matter on an international unlocked phone?
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It's still running 2.3.4 because you're waiting on a push update from Samsung OTA, or via Kies. Actually, you're lucky you're on 2.3.4. I was on 2.3.3 for nearly 4 months before I got tired of waiting.
If you want 2.3.5 or 2.3.6, I would just get the firmware and flash it yourself. Takes less than 5 minutes after you know what you're doing, and you don't need root to do it. Intratech's official i9100 firmwares thread has all the firmwares for unlocked GS2s, official from Samsung in post 2, instructions (READ THESE) in post 1. The only change he made in them is for any that are 2.3.5 or newer, he replaced the bootloaders with the older ones which still allow the use of a USB jig to reset the binary counter. Otherwise they are completely stock.
Thanks. Is this an issue with Samsung NZ in particular? I'm moving to Australia next month, so is there a chance this will just happen when i get there? I've flashed plenty of phones, but i'm really nervous about flashing this one as it's my shiny new toy I'm actually totally happy with stock, only issues are with battery life, not bad but not great, and with the phone getting hot sometimes. Do you have these issues with the later firmware?
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Thanks. Is this an issue with Samsung NZ in particular? I'm moving to Australia next month, so is there a chance this will just happen when i get there?
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I honestly don't know. But I doubt it. I think it is based on the phone and where it was bought, not necessarily where it is in operation. But I don't know that for sure; that's just my own speculation. But then again, who knows? I use a UK bought i9100 in the US, and the i9100 isn't sold in the US - which could by why I never got an update pushed to me OTA or via Kies.
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I've flashed plenty of phones, but i'm really nervous about flashing this one as it's my shiny new toy I'm actually totally happy with stock, only issues are with battery life, not bad but not great, and with the phone getting hot sometimes. Do you have these issues with the later firmware?
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I flashed XXKI3, which is 2.3.5, to my phone, and I don't have those issues. But I also installed Green Power Premium on my phone, which helps to save battery by managing my network connections (both 3G/HSPA/HSPA+ and WiFi) while my screen is off. With how I've got it set up, I've managed to get about a day and a half of battery with moderate usage. Moderate usage = about 3.5 hours of the screen being on during that time, which includes surfing the internet, email, texts, calls, and some games.
You should check out Green Power to see if it helps with your battery. I have it set to completely shut down data if the screen is off between 11;15pm and 7:15am (hours I'm normally sleeping) unless the screen is on. During that time, I typically lose about 2-4% of power if I'm not using the phone. During the day, I have it set if the screen is off to turn data on for 1 minute every 15 minutes. I should let you know though, that the night time settings are only available with the premium version of the app, which does cost some money. (but not much - under $2 USD)
If this helps you out with battery and makes you happy, you may not need to upgrade.
When do you notice it getting hot?
The above posted link is for stock firmwares.............. If you follow Intratech's instructions exactly, there won't be an issue. You can always reflash to original just as easily if you don't like it. Just take note of your phone product code so you can find and download it easily again. You may have this on you box already.
Edit: If your using the phone or some app is running the CPU whilst the phone is charging, it will get hot.
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Yeah worth thinking about. I'm running juice defender pro, which switches data etc off when screen is off. Admittedly i use it very heavily, a lot of gps\navigation with screen on, with music playing in the background, but i went through 2 batteries in about 14 hours the other day.
The phone seems to get hot in lower coverage areas, when using gps for long time, or within one minute of loading graphically intense games like mc3. Not too worried about the gaming, i have a tablet for that, but it makes me nervous when it gets hit doing fairly mundane tasks.
I'm hoping samsung get's their act together and pushes these updates soon. I'll try when i get to australia and post back here. I'm sure samsung aus should have much better support than samsung nz.
I'm not that stressed and can wait. But it just seems really strange that several revisions havent been pushed to an international phone. Can't blame it on a carrier this time!
If it helps, this phone was parallel imported. I think it's probably from Hong Kong.
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Yeah worth thinking about. I'm running juice defender pro, which switches data etc off when screen is off. Admittedly i use it very heavily, a lot of gps\navigation with screen on, with music playing in the background, but i went through 2 batteries in about 14 hours the other day.
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LOL, if you're constantly using the phone, no amount of updates is going to solve your battery draining!
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The phone seems to get hot in lower coverage areas, when using gps for long time, or within one minute of loading graphically intense games like mc3. Not too worried about the gaming, i have a tablet for that, but it makes me nervous when it gets hit doing fairly mundane tasks.
I'm hoping samsung get's their act together and pushes these updates soon. I'll try when i get to australia and post back here. I'm sure samsung aus should have much better support than samsung nz.
I'm not that stressed and can wait. But it just seems really strange that several revisions havent been pushed to an international phone. Can't blame it on a carrier this time!
If it helps, this phone was parallel imported. I think it's probably from Hong Kong.
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Yes, in lower coverage areas, the phone will constantly be searching for signal. This takes power, and will probably be searching for all available bands. Not much you can do about this, aside from maybe looking into a microcell if your carrier has them. (or will have them since you are moving to Australia)
And using GPS will indeed get the phone hot - it is using both the GPS chip and mobile data, which are two of the biggest power hogs.
But that said, I would STILL recommend at least going to 2.3.5 by using a firmware from that link I posted. Instructions are very clear, and you will only benefit.
Hello all. I've been reading with much dread on the changes to my phone with the Verizon forced OTA update. I really don't care about the extra battery bar, and didn't want to have my battery life wasted by the Verizon Location bloatware. I caught my phone twice trying to install the OTA, and I defered it until tomorrow.
That's when I notice you can "reject" the update. Currently if you go into settings, status, you can then click on reject. It appears the OTA will not install.
Hope this helps,
BOBBY
PS- I have a screen shot but can't post a Photobucket link as a new member yet.
I read on here that it will be forced upon you on Feb. 5.
Don't be afraid...
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I rejected the OTA a couple of times; didn't stop it from installing when I wasn't looking a few days ago.
It really sucks that you can't permanently reject an update if you don't want it.
My son has a DroidX that is bone stock. He doesn't care about mods whatever, his phone is all beat up and he could care less what the wallpaper/icons etc are. He just wants it to work.
When the GB update came out for it, he absolutely DID NOT want it but eventually it installed anyway and his phone has been really messed up ever since (it worked fine before the update)
He has so many apps installed that he really doesn't want to factory reset it ( he doesn't even know where he got half of them) but it is going to have to be reset soon.
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Hello all. I've been reading with much dread on the changes to my phone with the Verizon forced OTA update. I really don't care about the extra battery bar, and didn't want to have my battery life wasted by the Verizon Location bloatware. I caught my phone twice trying to install the OTA, and I defered it until tomorrow.
That's when I notice you can "reject" the update. Currently if you go into settings, status, you can then click on reject. It appears the OTA will not install.
Hope this helps,
BOBBY
PS- I have a screen shot but can't post a Photobucket link as a new member yet.
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My phones actually rejecting it normally. Ive restarted my phone a couple of times and it notifies me that its DL however it just fails to install. I don't want the update right now but i do wonder if that will come back to bite me in the as*
Ever since the update my phone seems to lag just a little bit when scrolling screens in sense. Or has it always been this way and I'm just noticing?
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My phones actually rejecting it normally. Ive restarted my phone a couple of times and it notifies me that its DL however it just fails to install. I don't want the update right now but i do wonder if that will come back to bite me in the as*
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You can always save it for later.
The file is called OTAPkg.zip and should be in /cache/fumo. You can just download it and postpone the install then move it out to somewhere where you can always use it at a later date.
I tried forcing the Tango update on my Lumia 800 and it took me an hour of disconnecting to get the useless 8112. Tried again for another hour for the next update and still nothing.
Is this how updates are supposed to be done ? Or should I just wait 3 months for the phone to realize there's an update ? (legit questions)
Notice it became available a week ago (not on the promised 27th June; also, some people are still waiting) and magically the phone and Zune are both still unaware of it.
This is some really dumb stuff, Microsoft.
June 27 (or whatever date they announced) is when they begin roll out, not when it will be instantly available for your region.
There could be many reasons why they chose the dates they have for rolling out the update.
Some of the few:
1) Limit problems, if they release it to everyone and find out after many testing that it manages to brick phones, everyone will come in and complain. For assurance and risk reduction, its safer to release it in small markets to large markets.
2) Waiting for carriers, some carriers won't allow an update through until they do their own testing that the phone works on their networks (since they will be the one contacted by angry customers if something were to go wrong)
The disconnect trick is for those who want the update asap. If you can't wait a few weeks then by all means continue wasting time to get an update you consider useless. You could have even forced the install through the cab method. And it shouldn't have taken you an hour to do it; an easy misstep would be to forget to put the phone in airplane mode with wifi off.
You may think their process is dumb, but not many people know (including me) in full detail what Microsoft has to go through to get an update out. There could be regulation (FCC), legal ramifications and all sorts of headache that made Microsoft do what they do.
inket said:
I tried forcing the Tango update on my Lumia 800 and it took me an hour of disconnecting to get the useless 8112. Tried again for another hour for the next update and still nothing.
Is this how updates are supposed to be done ? Or should I just wait 3 months for the phone to realize there's an update ? (legit questions)
Notice it became available a week ago (not on the promised 27th June; also, some people are still waiting) and magically the phone and Zune are both still unaware of it.
This is some really dumb stuff, Microsoft.
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You're complaining because a trick isn't working for you. The trick is not the intended method of updating.
Updates are rolled out in stages. The normal process is to wait for your phone to be updated as and when the companies choose.
@ekw: I had Wi-Fi and Data connection disabled and kept trying with no luck.
I cabbed 8773 today and it finally installed. Weirdly, the phone detected the Nokia update moments after the restart. Why can't OS updates be like that ?
That's what I meant by this thread. Microsoft seems to be either really dumb or just doing it on purpose.
Apple always releases updates on time, and they have no problems with server limits (even though there's 300m active iOS users) or carriers.
Seems to me like an easy problem with a difficult solution. The fact that we all could update using cab sender proves that there's an easy solution, yet, sadly, unofficial.
Blame the carriers. Only Apple has the market clout to force carriers to do things their way.
Hi,
Does anyone have any info or idea if the AMBER update will be available OTA for L920s with the DEV ROM? I don't see that entry in the update schedule page from Nokia. I just chatted with them and they said they have nothing scheduled at the moment, and suggested instead to go back to my ROGERS ROM (not even in my wildest dreams!).
I know I can flash it, but I don't want to go through the pain of doing everything again, including re-setting all my apps et al. If the OTA update comes out in a couple of weeks or so, I don't mind waiting, but I don't want to wait and then realise in a couple of months that it is not coming out and have to flash it anyhow.
Any news? Do we have to start making some noise on Nokia's forums and social media?
Thanks.
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abelitin said:
Hi,
Does anyone have any info or idea if the AMBER update will be available OTA for L920s with the DEV ROM? I don't see that entry in the update schedule page from Nokia. I just chatted with them and they said they have nothing scheduled at the moment, and suggested instead to go back to my ROGERS ROM (not even in my wildest dreams!).
I know I can flash it, but I don't want to go through the pain of doing everything again, including re-setting all my apps et al. If the OTA update comes out in a couple of weeks or so, I don't mind waiting, but I don't want to wait and then realise in a couple of months that it is not coming out and have to flash it anyhow.
Any news? Do we have to start making some noise on Nokia's forums and social media?
Thanks.
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In case anyone else is wondering, I started getting the update OTA last week. I wasn't expecting it so my connection was very slow and I just soft reset it... Apparently, the download got somehow messed up upon resuming. To make a long story short, after it was installed, the screen lock didn't work properly: I could only unlock my phone right after it turned on; after that, it would not respond at all, so I had to soft-reset every time I wanted to unlock the screen -the other option being deactivating the screen lock altogether, but that doesn't look very promising, especially for battery consumption and pocket dials.
As it turns out, I ended up flashing the firmware, which is ironic because I could have done it a while ago when it came out, but didn't want to go through all the hassle.
My only problem now is that some apps that should work, like Nokia Pro Camera, do not allow me to install them. My firmware does say it is the latest version, and it also identifies the Lumia Amber in Details, but the app is not available.
Has anyone else had this issue?
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abelitin said:
In case anyone else is wondering, I started getting the update OTA last week. I wasn't expecting it so my connection was very slow and I just soft reset it... Apparently, the download got somehow messed up upon resuming. To make a long story short, after it was installed, the screen lock didn't work properly: I could only unlock my phone right after it turned on; after that, it would not respond at all, so I had to soft-reset every time I wanted to unlock the screen -the other option being deactivating the screen lock altogether, but that doesn't look very promising, especially for battery consumption and pocket dials.
As it turns out, I ended up flashing the firmware, which is ironic because I could have done it a while ago when it came out, but didn't want to go through all the hassle.
My only problem now is that some apps that should work, like Nokia Pro Camera, do not allow me to install them. My firmware does say it is the latest version, and it also identifies the Lumia Amber in Details, but the app is not available.
Has anyone else had this issue?
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Nokia Pro was pulled from Market for few days it was due some bugs...Try again now.
What I can see from Navifirm Plus latest ROM version for RM-821 059R4H6 is 3047.0000.1326.2002
boril said:
Nokia Pro was pulled from Market for few days it was due some bugs...Try again now.
What I can see from Navifirm Plus latest ROM version for RM-821 059R4H6 is 3047.0000.1326.2002
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Thanks. So I did and now it's there...
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My wife and I both bought Samsung Galaxy Alpha phones when they were released. It was a fine phone until about a year ago when they updated. After that update both phones became miserably slow. As in, sometimes can't even respond in time to answer phone calls slow. Today I started the GPS and it didn't offer directions until I arrived at the destination. Yet, sometimes it'll be very fast as if nothing were wrong.
I know it's not a hardware problem because it's affecting both phones. I just replaced the battery on one of the phones (taken from a new Galaxy Alpha). Doing a factory reset didn't fix the problem. Resetting the phone helps some but not for long. I'm wondering if it's just FUBAR now? Should I try rooting the phone? Maybe Google fixed the problem in a later update.
If you factory reset it and restore everything back again you won't help the phone in anyway (if that's what you did), try using a custom ROM like EpsilROM, then delete unnecessary system apps, also try using less RAM hungry apps like Facebook or find a way to kill apps when you don't use them