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Just bought the Verizon moto e at best buy and have it working on t mobile but want to install custom roms.
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
Christopher876 said:
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
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i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
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i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
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Can't overwrite the bootloader since it is locked, the partition is locked to read. However, I was thinking, since it has that 5.1 update, it must've written to the system partition and which case I wonder if a fake update of some kind be used. Kingoroot also somehow can mount and write to the system partition through their rooting process, if someone can figure how it does that, there is hope for this version.
There is also the possibility of someone developing loki for this phone too, which would bring at least some custom action to this.
Verizon does some weird things, both it and AT&T, I just don't understand them. AT&T locks down the device and sometimes they even get updates that were released for the phone. Verizon declines other phones which people want. Anyways, we only paid $10 for phone, couldn't say no to that, right? Unlocked SIM and if they do find a workaround, just cherry on top of the icing.
litan1106 said:
$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
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+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
wogeboy said:
+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
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I hope so, would really suck to stay on 5.1 and miss out on any security updates, etc.
But from the looks of scanning through part of the forum, no seems to be taking on the task of figuring out a way to do so. The one guy that was trying had school that took over his time and then there are no other threads about it.
Yeah, I hope that you are right that all these new devices out there will spark something.
Hello everyone,
Do you know anything about h850tr bootloader unlock? I wrote under LG development forum, then they said that LG is not planning anything about it yet. Is there any way unofficially to handle that? An unrooted Android isn't much fun
If other people share their opinion about that in LG forum, maybe they change their minds.
LG is pretty adamant about not offering an unlocked bootloader on any devices they haven't already released an unlock for. Right now our only hope for anything outside of 850 and 830 is the skilled members of this forum to do their thing. They're working on it!
I have never encountered this type of problem with HTC Salsa and S4 mini. So I didn't need to check this issue. It's been a very expensive lesson for me. I hope devs find a solution for this.
In XDA we trust.
Hello again,
Is there any development for H850tr lately?
Nope.
Lg g5 H850TR owners write together on a lg forums with a common email
"Hi
There are many international G5 users looking for Bootloader unlocking on LG devices. why can't LG support Bootloader unlocking on international versions of the phone which have the same model number as the european version?
it's the exact same phone but not supported, this doesn't make sense.
drxx said:
Lg g5 H850TR owners write together on a lg forums with a common email
"Hi
There are many international G5 users looking for Bootloader unlocking on LG devices. why can't LG support Bootloader unlocking on international versions of the phone which have the same model number as the european version?
it's the exact same phone but not supported, this doesn't make sense.
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I asked Lg developer team.
Hello,
In accordance with LG's policy, you can only unlock bootloader for the supported devices.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
If there are any changes to the supported devices, we will let you know via our website.
Best Regards,
LG Developer site Team
I wrote lg developer forum ..
I think everyone in this forum wants a bootloader unlock just as much as i do.
Your lame excuses are pathetic LG. The unlock code for LG G5 only for the European market has also been released.
Please give the CEO's email or you will lose another valuable customer.
Your competitors are crushing you LG.
Ive sent multiple emails to LG Singapore(my bootloader version is singapore) and their responses do not explain this issue fully. I have been told that the engineers are responsible for this and they are worthless LG.
Grow up and support development. Im not asking for the impossible. If you cannot do anything about this, I urge LG to remove all other bootloader unlocks so all that your customers are "safe" and leave you alone.
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"changes to the supported devices,"
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I never looked into it far as this question. But I take it you guy's can't use 850 or 830 in your country? Probably not I am guessing.
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any news ?
any news?
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any news?
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No. It's not supported and will most likely never be supported (or at least not any time soon). If anything changes you will see post about it being achieved. Currently, the only unlockable and rootable devices are:
1) h850 EU open market
2) t mobile h830
3) us unlocked rs988
If unlocking bootloader and root is important and you can use one of those devices I listed get one of them instead.
I found some posts about canadian G5 roots and a universal bootloader unlock. I can't post links to them because the XDA devs in their infinite wisdom don't want to let me until I make 10 helpful posts here. But if you enter the following search terms into Google it should be the top return (androidtechinfo is the web site):
"unlocking g5 bootloader all versions androidinfotech"
I've been considering getting an LG G5 on Koodo (essentially Telus) in Canada. I don't yet have a G5 so I can't test this. It purports to be a universal bootloader unlock, another post on the same site purports to be a root for Canadian devices.
Can anyone tell me if this is legitimate? The comments on the root seem skeptical, and there are no comments at all on the bootloader unlock page, which raises a red flag for me.
Doesn't work. Nothing works right now on H831 (Telus/Koodo) - I have that phone, and while it is a great phone, I need root for a couple of applications I can't live without.
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Doesn't work. Nothing works right now on H831 (Telus/Koodo) - I have that phone, and while it is a great phone, I need root for a couple of applications I can't live without.
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I'm right frustrated now. The G5 was my last hope. I smashed the screen almost to oblivion on my original S5. The S5 Neo dropped HDMI output, the S6 I'm not sure about HDMI but it's gimped with no SD slot, and the S7 dropped HDMI too. So it's give up HDMI, or lose control of my device. Neither of which are attractive options. Koodo doesn't offer anything else. Looks like I'm going to have to try and get a european device.
What is that article talking about? Is it true?
I'm a new owner of my very own V30 as of yesterday. For 8 years, I've been the proud owner of nexus devices, starting from the galaxy nexus, then nexus 4, 5, 6p. I've never owned a "common folk" phone such as the v30. But, with Google going off the face of the planet with deleting the 3.5mm jack I just couldn't buy another Google phone (sigh)
So a question : when LG places the v30 on the dev bootloader unlock whitelist, like the v20, will the warranty still be voided if the bootloader is unlocked?
I liked my Lineage aka cyanogenmod, root apps, xposed, tasker. But frankly the v30 is more than good enough stock for me to use day to day (my phone is an oauth key, calendar, media player, web browser, and IOT remote controller, none of which get much benefit from root). Still, it'd be nice to know what to expect from LG.. Reaally for the fact that ad block root was so good.
There used to be a time when oem android was so bad that it was unusable without flashing with your own stuff... And that's very different now. Just wondering.
Agreed about Google removing headphone jack, especially after making fun of Apple doing it a year ago. Hypocrisy much?
What V30 variant did you get? Is yours eligible for bootloader unlock? Either open market LG US998 or H930 are the two V30 eligible for bootloader unlock with full flash commands available. (The T-Mobile variant has "fake" bootloader unlock, with most flash commands stripped out.)
Yes, warranty is voided with that bootloader unlock. You get an unlock code in exchange for agreeing to void warranty, from the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website.
You can either have warranty or own your phone...
Motorola does the same thing, for their phones which are eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
Depending which version you have it may not get unlocked at all. I've got the H930DS and there's a good chance it will never be unlocked.
Also regarding warranty it depends a lot on which country you are in, if it is the US then yea, you will probably lose warranty completely. In a lot of other countries they cannot legally void the hardware warranty for software modifications. It also matters which distributor is providing the warranty service or whether it is LG themselves, not all distributors are the same.
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I'm a new owner of my very own V30 as of yesterday. For 8 years, I've been the proud owner of nexus devices, starting from the galaxy nexus, then nexus 4, 5, 6p. I've never owned a "common folk" phone such as the v30. But, with Google going off the face of the planet with deleting the 3.5mm jack I just couldn't buy another Google phone (sigh)
So a question : when LG places the v30 on the dev bootloader unlock whitelist, like the v20, will the warranty still be voided if the bootloader is unlocked?
I liked my Lineage aka cyanogenmod, root apps, xposed, tasker. But frankly the v30 is more than good enough stock for me to use day to day (my phone is an oauth key, calendar, media player, web browser, and IOT remote controller, none of which get much benefit from root). Still, it'd be nice to know what to expect from LG.. Reaally for the fact that ad block root was so good.
There used to be a time when oem android was so bad that it was unusable without flashing with your own stuff... And that's very different now. Just wondering.
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see ChazzMatts posts in various threads... his info is tight.
this phone is great out of the box, but man is it WAY better when it's got root and the right ROM... speaking for myself. so, depending on which variant you have, the old days may be possible for you.
i was a flashaholic somewhat, but on this phone US998 unlocked, i got lucky that the first ROM I've flashed will [hopefully] be my last. exactly what i wanted. and with the tweaks it flies, fastest phone I've ever used. the audio is SPECTACULAR... talking about the WETA rom, the one mentioned above. really super happy over here. i am honestly surprised how everything fell into place on this new phone project. now to sell my HTC10. the audio (and display) on the V30 is light years ahead of the HTC if that's saying anything.
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Agreed about Google removing headphone jack, especially after making fun of Apple doing it a year ago. Hypocrisy much?
What V30 variant did you get? Is yours eligible for bootloader unlock? Either open market LG US998 or H930 are the two V30 eligible for bootloader unlock with full flash commands available. (The T-Mobile variant has "fake" bootloader unlock, with most flash commands stripped out.)
Yes, warranty is voided with that bootloader unlock. You get an unlock code in exchange for agreeing to void warranty, from the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website.
You can either have warranty or own your phone...
Motorola does the same thing, for their phones which are eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
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Unfortunately I have a h932 (tmo version). So that's how it is... Meh I'm not in too big a need for the unlock especially since it's a newish released phone and there's always a chance there's a recall. I was just curious if LG typically opens up their older product line for a potential unlock in the future.
Thanks for the info!
The only way the Tmo version gets a Bootloader unlock is either Engineering Bootstack being released in the wild or someone cracks the security. Unfortunately the likelihood of any of that happening is slim to none. Either replace it with a US998/H930 or be happy with never getting root/unlocked.
With that being said, there really isn't much dev going on for this phone unfortunately and I doubt that will really change much. LG has a lot of negativity from previous failures and accountability so most devs have merely over looked this phone or written LG off completely. Kinda like the failure that is happening over at HTC.
Fortunately there are some sharp and tenacious devs working on the T-Mo models. In the post linked below, @runningnak3d expressed a more optimistic prognosis for the H932. Given his work and skills, and the efforts being made by him and others in that thread, that makes me optimistic too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75678105
And there are other tireless devs and users working on it in the H932 root thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
Velrix said:
LG has a lot of negativity from previous failures and accountability so most devs have merely over looked this phone or written LG off completely.
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If that's true, that's a shame. Lot of devs were working on the LG G6 open market models and the V30 is much better. LG really has a winner with this phone.
I think part of the problem is LG still hasn't officially added the US998 V30 to the LG Bootloader Unlock list (only the H930 and H930G). While waiting for the official announcement, and waiting and waiting... @gwillmer found out by accident the US998 V30 bootloader could be unlocked. How long had all those IMEI codes been in the database? And LG didn't tell us? And the V30+ US998 still can't be unlocked (which is the more desirable model). (I own both.) I think if that had happened (getting bootloader unlock for both) back in November/December, devs would be all over this phone.
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Fortunately there are some sharp and tenacious devs working on the T-Mo models. In the post linked below, @runningnak3d expressed a more optimistic prognosis for the H932. Given his work and skills, and the efforts being made by him and others in that thread, that makes me optimistic too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75678105
And there are other tireless devs and users working on it in the H932 root thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
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I highly doubt without a engineering bootstack or some other hack they will ever get root on that phone. Even if they do, its doubtful it will be much more than that. They have yet to do it on the G6 model so don't expect it here anytime soon.
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ChazzMatt said:
If that's true, that's a shame. Lot of devs were working on the LG G6 open market models and the V30 is much better. LG really has a winner with this phone.
I think part of the problem is LG still hasn't officially added the US998 V30 to the LG Bootloader Unlock list (only the H930 and H930G). While waiting for the official announcement, and waiting and waiting... @gwillmer found out by accident the US998 V30 bootloader could be unlocked. How long had all those IMEI codes been in the database? And LG didn't tell us? And the V30+ US998 still can't be unlocked (which is the more desirable model). (I own both.) I think if that had happened (getting bootloader unlock for both) back in November/December, devs would be all over this phone.
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That's the problem, people (devs/enthusiast) just lost hope/trust in the company in general and this just puts the nail in the coffin. Now we have a new device being released later this year when most people just got their unlocked phones a few months back. LG did great with the V30 but they are being extremely anti developer with their actions, and honestly why wouldn't they be. Their money is in the average consumer which will never care about root/bootloader unlocking.
I really hope this changes for the good and they allow the + to be unlocked but until then, this platform may not have a ton of dev support.
When was the G6+ (US997U) released? It's still not on the bootloader unlock list, either... and wouldn't it have come out well before the V30? I can't seem to find an exact date that it was first listed for sale, but how long would we expect them to wait to add any new phone to the list? There's the Prime-Exclusive version that categorically will NOT get a bootloader unlock, but B&H and BestBuy both sell a factory-unlocked version too.
I'm having doubts that the V30+ will be added to the bootloader unlock list. If they really do it "for developers" then they really only need to support the base model V30, as the PLUS and the ThinQ just add more storage space and the rest of the hardware is identical.
Muhammadaliz said:
THANK YOU
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Not sure what you are thanking about. This thread from February 2018 now has a lot of outdated information. We no longer need the LG's approval for bootloader unlock.
This is the 2nd post post where you have just said thank you for information that's not really that helpful any more (outdated). Seems you are padding your post count?
EDIT: YES, NOW WE KNOW. Padding post count so he could spam with ads once he had enough posts. Now he's been banned...
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We can't all go back and edit old posts with newer information, which is why there's always a danger to "dig up" old threads like this. What I said 6 months ago may conflict with what I'm saying right now, but that's because of newer information, newer developments. Just this week, H932 T-Mobile V30/V30+ got ROOT. You will find tons of posts where we say that's NOT possible. Well, it wasn't THEN. It is NOW.
Same with bootloader unlock for non-Open Market V30. We thought we needed LG approval. In mid-May we found we don't, thanks to @TxanMoe.
I've done a lot of digging and seen people say that USA variants of Samsung's phones cannot have their boot loaders unlocked. They never go into detail on as to why. I'm not looking for a miracle or asking to have my device unlocked. I've accepted that's not gonna happen in any practical or painless manner aside from just giving up and buying an international version. I just want to know in detail on why they can't be unlocked. What did Samsung do to USA variants that essentially keep the phones locked down? What is the blockade that spells "game over" for any attempt to unlock the device, and where can I find more documentation on what it does or is? Is it some kind of hardware-enforced mechanism that locks it down? I have not dived into the weeds for the android OS and smartphones, but I know nothing about any device is just "magic".
What makes these devices so hard to unlock?
I can't find anything explaining what it is aside from the ocean of articles crying:
"SAMSUNG HATES US! HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR SAMSUNG A10 WITH THIS SIMPLE TRICK!"
"USE OEM UNLOCK IN DEV MODE TO UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER, AND IF IT'S NOT THERE, I DON'T KNOW".
"SO EASY! DOWNLOAD THIS NON-SUSPICIOUS SOFTWARE TO MIRACULOUSLY ROOT YOUR A10!"