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Using the app Ampere, my V10 does not take advantage of the fast charge 2.0. I get to charging at or around 700mA, but mostly sub 500mA or less. I've tried using the charger that came with the phone, I purchased an Anker 40W 5-Port charger and recently a Mobiilink 6-Port 60W charger all with the same results. Any ideas as to what may be wrong (if any). My phone has been charging for the last 3hrs and is only at 50% after being plugged in at 9%. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Using the app Ampere, my V10 does not take advantage of the fast charge 2.0. I get to charging at or around 700mA, but mostly sub 500mA or less. I've tried using the charger that came with the phone, I purchased an Anker 40W 5-Port charger and recently a Mobiilink 6-Port 60W charger all with the same results. Any ideas as to what may be wrong (if any). My phone has been charging for the last 3hrs and is only at 50% after being plugged in at 9%. Thanks in advance for any help.
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As far as I can determine, neither of the chargers you mention are Qualcomm Quick charge certified. So you won't be able to get the fastest charge with them. Anker does make chargers that are qualcomm certified, but the one you have isn't. Mobilink has zero devices that are certified.
No matter what words are used by the manufacturer, unless they are qualcomm certified you are more than likely out of luck..
What about the charger that came with the phone? It is certified and will most definiitely give you a fast charge.
The V10 is equiped with qualcomm fast charge 2.0 technology. Fast charge 3.0 is available on a few devices and there are lots of manufacturers advertising chargers that are quallcomm fast charge 3.0 certified. I personally would avoid these as they won't speed up the charge rate of the V10 and are usually sold at a premium price.
Thanks for the reply. The phone DOES quick charge. It seems that when I'm using the phone while charging, it charges slowly (>500mA) . When I set it down, it will charge fast (<1.5A). The charger that came with the phone is Qualcomm fast charge 2.0 as well as the 5-port Mobiilink (only one port).
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Essential Phone can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
They claim that a 5 mins charge gets you 5 hours of battery. 1 hour and 30 minutes for a complete charge.
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
27W to be exact. And on another video review, it showed 5v @ 3A and 9v @ 3A on the charger. So this thing should charge pretty quick and I assume is just using the native USB-C Fast Charge capability which is just fine.
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
LastQuark said:
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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Yup, that would be a lie. Just because you have a 835, they would have to still implement QC themselves in order to leverage it.
And I believe Qualcomm loves to charge a pretty penny to flip that bit on for your device.
The device may still charge pretty quickly, but we will need some reports from those who have it in hand.
Anyone with it already have AccuBattery installed and see what the charging speed is plugged into its charger?
uncled1023 said:
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
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From a review I watched, they said that the charger is capable of Charing 5 hours of usage time in 5 minutes.
I tried my s8 charger on it, the charger quickly heated up and stopped charging the device
When using the S8 charger, it show slow charging... Sucks
Soooo... What's wrong with using the included charger?
And Samsung uses some other form of Fast Charging that's proprietary to their own devices. It isn't Qualcomm quick charge at least at the generic level. Essential just uses the USB-C 3A fast charge ability which you will have to get separate from both Samsung or QC2/3.0 stuff which is a bit of a pain, but really not surprising. Same as the Nexus/Pixel devices.
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
I plugged in an Ailey quick charge charger. It first said charging slowly then changed to charging rapidly.
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ack154 said:
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
For those using Quick Charge to the PH-1, it is only compatible with QC 4.0 and not QC 3.0 or below. QC 4.0 is compatible with Power Delivery (PD) that PH-1 uses.
27W USB Charger
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
LazerL0rd said:
Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
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Franksr said:
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Yeah.. that should be average.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
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Quick charge or no quick charge, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to charge faster than 3% overnight. It still said charging slowly when I got up this morning and said 5 days until full. It had actually only gone up 3% in the past 9 hours.
My battery is at 96% so it may not be the most accurate test, and it was over 1000mah on initial plug in and then slowly went down to what's on the screen shot after about a minute.
When I say Quick Charge, I mean proper QC technology, not some "quick" or "fast" charging method unique to Huawei only.
The stock charger says [email protected] or [email protected] QC2 and 3 can do [email protected] However when I put the M5 onto my QC3 charger, it only draws [email protected] as tested with a cable with V/A reading.
Charger and cable had been tested to work at proper QC power with my ZTE Axon 7, drawing 18W and also a Moto G4 Turbo Charging.
The strange thing is, if there is some "special" Huawei only technology on the stock charger, it still charges my Axon 7 and G4 with "standard" QC3. Anyone has been successful charging their M5 on a standard QC2/3 charger?
Only does fast charge when the screen is turned off.
there's also a possibility that your volt/amp meter is blocking the fast charge also.
Michaelflat1 said:
Only does fast charge when the screen is turned off.
there's also a possibility that your volt/amp meter is blocking the fast charge also.
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Tried it with screen on or off, and even with the M5 off, still 10W on a non stock QC3 charger.
Cable definitely works for quick charge because I used the same cable on the stock charger and it reads 18W, so it is not blocking anything.
I use this QC3 charger. I get the dual lightning bolt symbol which I think means fast charge.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
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I use this QC3 charger. I get the dual lightning bolt symbol which I think means fast charge.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
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Yes, 2 lighting symbol means QCing. However it does not show on my non stock QC charger. My other QC-able devices does on both that charger and the Huawei stock one, strange.
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
Obveron said:
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
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This is what I use: http://amzn.eu/cLL0gg9
Cable shouldn't matter for QC and proven not to matter as I used the same random cable (and also the cable with the V/A meter) on this charger and the stock charger. It QC my M5 and Axon 7 on the stock charger but only QC my phone on the Aukey charger.
I have a USB C charger ordered, will see if that works better with the M5.
Obveron said:
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
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I had since discovered that Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP for fast charge. Some QC chargers have that ability built in, but not all. Time to invest in more chargers I think.
Further update: My charger with USB PD arrived and no, it does not charge the M5 (FCP) nor my Axon 7 (QC3) fast. However the M5 charges off my Tronsmart portable charger with VoltIQ and QC3. I had done a bit of digging around and found (so far) that only Tronsmart make any chargers that can support both standards at the same time from the same port. This is great as it is when I am out and about I will need quick charging most.
Sadly they do not (at the moment) make a charger with, say 2 x QC + VoltIQ ports. It is either 1 x QC + VoltIQ and 4 x normal or 5 x QC + VoltIQ and that one costs a bit too much.
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Further update: My charger with USB PD arrived and no, it does not charge the M5 (FCP) nor my Axon 7 (QC3) fast. However the M5 charges off my Tronsmart portable charger with VoltIQ and QC3. I had done a bit of digging around and found (so far) that only Tronsmart make any chargers that can support both standards at the same time from the same port. This is great as it is when I am out and about I will need quick charging most.
Sadly they do not (at the moment) make a charger with, say 2 x QC + VoltIQ ports. It is either 1 x QC + VoltIQ and 4 x normal or 5 x QC + VoltIQ and that one costs a bit too much.
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I read this article and it says BlitzWolf BW-S6 knows the FCP charging and it will work the fast charging on Huawei. I will order one to try it...
almaalma74 said:
I read this article and it says BlitzWolf BW-S6 knows the FCP charging and it will work the fast charging on Huawei. I will order one to try it...
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There are many chargers that can QC and FCP at the same time, BUT very few that have 2 or more ports that can do them all at once (or at least FCP+QC on one and QC on the other), just one port and the other one at normal speed. There is a Tronsmart one with 5 ports but it is quite costly.
What happens if you just plug m5 into Google phone usb-c fast charger? Like for my nexus 6p. Slow charging? How much slower? Really want one USB c charger for all my stuff.
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What happens if you just plug m5 into Google phone usb-c fast charger? Like for my nexus 6p. Slow charging? How much slower? Really want one USB c charger for all my stuff.
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Not sure what the nexus comes with. However I had tried it with QC3 charger and a USB C PD charger and both just slow charges. Only Huawei original charger or SOME chargers with VoltIQ can fast charge the M5.
plugging in my USB tester proves that actually it takes a 9v 2a charge from original power adapter and cable. Whilst screen is on also.
I'm looking at various chargers and cables to make use of quick charge, or at least fast charge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I need a FCP capable charger, and a 5A cable?
Do you think these will work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFE90H8/ref=nav_signin?
https://www.amazon.ca/laddertek-Com...1533821459&sr=1-10&keywords=magnetic+usb-c+5a
Ivanbarker said:
I'm looking at various chargers and cables to make use of quick charge, or at least fast charge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I need a FCP capable charger, and a 5A cable?
Do you think these will work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFE90H8/ref=nav_signin?
https://www.amazon.ca/laddertek-Com...1533821459&sr=1-10&keywords=magnetic+usb-c+5a
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I can confirm that you do not need the original cable for FCP charge. I used a USB 3.0 (blue plug) cable that works with QC3 for FCP and this is confirmed by a USB V/A meter.
I think Huawei has their own standard. Some of my QC 2 chargers work, some don't using the same cable.
Frustrating that I can't use my Google phone usb-c charger for fast charging. How much slower is it using non Huawei fast charger? Any ideas?
StephenMSmith said:
Frustrating that I can't use my Google phone usb-c charger for fast charging. How much slower is it using non Huawei fast charger? Any ideas?
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Huawei FCP is [email protected]=18W or [email protected]=22.5W. Not sure which one our tablet uses, at work cannot check the actual charger. However when plugged into a QC2/3 charger, it charges at [email protected]=10W. Meaning it will be between 80% to 125% more time with a non FCP charger.
Having just picked up my M5 8.4, confirm my PD charger is (apparently) quick charging the device. It says fast charge on the lock screen and I've got the double lightning bolt in the status bar. Score!
Is fast charging working with this phone?
I have belkin QC3 and I am thinking of buying this budget phone. I hope it is working even in sleeping mode.
Thanks
It seems to be a case of hit and miss so far. When I measure the charging current for the bundled charger/cable using Ampere it didn't even get close to the 2.4A current we should get.
Update: The max current I saw during charging is around 1950 mah, which isn't really considered fast charging.
Snapdragon 636 does support QC4 according to its datasheet but real life impression with the bundled nokia charger doesn't feel so quick indeed. I suspect poor charger quality is the culprit here (despite the fact it is 18W rated in specs) since no QC logo is printed on it
When plugged in, screen shows rapid chrging and cuts it off when around 80% + for battery protection I guess
If anyone charges the phone on an officially rated QC3 or QC4 charger please let us know
I also notice that the phone doesn't charge very fast using QC chargers, but when plugged into the USB C port of my (Anker or RAVpower) battery, it charges super quick. So I think USB-PD works better on this phone.
Specs wise, our phone's SD636 supports QC 4 which incorporates USB-PD standard, so if you charge on a certified QC4/usb pd charger plus the required cable, it will play fast and nice
Strange thing is that Qualcomm lists it only as QC3 device in their original device list found here https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list as if Nokia hasn't fully enabled the chipset's feature (?) for some reason...
Well, as long you see it charge super fast, I guess you can be happy with that
Hi All,
Not sure what the deal is with the charging status on this device.
Plug in, says super fast charging, then a second later switches to 'charging'.
Tried different cables & chargers and similar behaviour, 'fast charging' (using a different brick) then immediatley just 'charging'.
Do I need some power/cable accessory, or is it actually charging at a fast speed, it tells you briefly then just generically displays charging?
Bit confused, lol, cheers!!
It just show this way but it is using fast charging anyway. If you will use bad charger and cable you will get notification Cable charging. So we have Cable charging, fast charging, super fast charging 2.0 and then they fall to just charging.
Thanks for clarifying