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With my Note 22 I used an app called "Galaxy Charging Current". Unfortunately it doesn't work on this phone. With the best charger & cable, the Note 2 showed 1800mA charging. I am looking for an App that would give me similar information with the V10.
Ampere seems to work with the V10:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
currently using Ampere but getting mixed results
I use GSAM Battery Monitor.
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
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I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Best I've used so far to monitor battery usage. Haven't actually used it on my V10 but this post just reminded me to install it.
RDI said:
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
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quick charge 2.0 increases voltage to phone and drops the amps.
so a 5v 2.4a charger will put out around 1800mA (1.8a) on a note 2, the V10 with QC2.0 @ 930mA is prob feeding phone 9-12 volts
istehwin said:
quick charge 2.0 increases voltage to phone and drops the amps.
so a 5v 2.4a charger will put out around 1800mA (1.8a) on a note 2, the V10 with QC2.0 @ 930mA is prob feeding phone 9-12 volts
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So fast charge capabilities are screwing around with our battery monitoring apps?
Or rather screwing our perception of speed of charge and ma draw?
Ampere.. been using it for years
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Ampere actually broke my "Estimated time remaining" under battery & storage settings. Just would sit on "calculating... please wait."
Uninstalled it and it's back to working again.
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Techlyfe said:
So fast charge capabilities are screwing around with our battery monitoring apps?
Or rather screwing our perception of speed of charge and ma draw?
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correct
istehwin said:
correct
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So to sum up...
930 on a V10 is "the same" as 1800 on a note 2?
I also came from a note 2 and have been confused as heck trying to figure out if my v10 is charging at a decent rate.
I never have a problem with the oem charger but I was on a car trip and using an external battery pack and also tried plugging in to my car stereo but couldn't figure out how to "read" the charging apps.
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lol... I too came from a Note 2
RDI said:
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
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Take note that the v10 turns off fast charging while screen is on. And ampere is a gesstimate, no app can give you presice. Need to use a USB Doctor sleeve for better results.
Unfortunately Ampere remeassures every time the screen turns on. I used the paid version widget.
Additional note. Fast chargers and fast charging is not the same as Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
A 2.4A charger will not quick charge qc 2.0 LG v10 in this case any faster than an old Iphone cube.
You need a qc (qualcomm) 2.0 compatible quick charger and decent cable. Zerolemon, aukey, tronsmart, Motorola turbo qc 2.0 chargers works great.
The LG v10 is capable of 2400-2850mA. Slightly slower then the Nexus 6, but faster than the G4.
The stock charge that comes with the v10 is qc 2.0 [email protected] or [email protected] max. Some chargers can do 12v, ZeroLemon is one.
Ampere's XDA forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-ampere-charging-meter-t3012890
clockcycle said:
Take note that the v10 turns off fast charging while screen is on. And ampere is a gesstimate, no app can give you presice. Need to use a USB Doctor sleeve for better results.
Unfortunately Ampere remeassures every time the screen turns on. I used the paid version widget.
Additional note. Fast chargers and fast charging is not the same as Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
A 2.4A charger will not quick charge qc 2.0 LG v10 in this case any faster than an old Iphone cube.
You need a qc (qualcomm) 2.0 compatible quick charger and decent cable. Zerolemon, aukey, tronsmart, Motorola turbo qc 2.0 chargers works great.
The LG v10 is capable of 2400-2850mA. Slightly slower then the Nexus 6, but faster than the G4.
The stock charge that comes with the v10 is qc 2.0 [email protected] or [email protected] max. Some chargers can do 12v, ZeroLemon is one.
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Does it matter what cord is used?
I have the Aukey charging station..wish that power cord was longer
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Does it matter what cord is used?
I have the Aukey charging station..wish that power cord was longer
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Yes in my experience, the quality of the cable makes a difference. I'm not sure if its the actual thickness or connections. I have a 6 foot braided flat cable that doesn't always fast charge on wall charger, but I have a 3 foot flat that does in the car. When I use my better cables it works every time.. I don't know if length makes a difference.
Yes, when I was using my Samsung Note 2 and an app called Galaxy Charging Current you could see the difference in mA. Using an Anker charger and a good cable got it up to 1800mA. It is harder to find longer cables that do not produce a loss. The quality of the conductor (metal /copper) shows up here. I wish that "Galaxy Charging Current" worked on the LG V10.
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Try ampere... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
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i use this cable by Zikko 1.5m long and max my note 2 with 1800mA. Also the cable works great with LG v10 and support Fast charging. Not only that the quality of the cable is superb. i broke one when my phone fell during charging and it landed on the the bottom first causing the micro usb from cable crooked. beside that the cable is great. http://www.hersheng.com/sites/default/files/1403253142.jpg
According the specification out V10 supports Quick Charge 2.0.
Does this mean any charge that support Quick Charge 2.0 should work? or it more hit or miss?
I purchased this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0144S0PDK
and when I connect it I don't see it indicating quick charge.
thanks
This one is tricky. Regular high-amp (2.1A) chargers don't seem to do the trick; its more about amps AND volts on this phone. The only other charger I've gotten 'fast charging' to work with is the Motorola Turbocharger I got with my Nexus 6. I suppose if you found a charger that outputs the same amperage and voltage as the LG charger it would work, in theory.
The charger that came with mine is a fast charge charger. It shows fast charge when I plug it in.
The charger that comes with does indicate quick charging when I plug it in to it.
But the car charger that I purchased that claims quick charging support does not indicate quick charging when I plug it in.
Was looking for others experience to decide if I should return and complain.
Unless the chargers say that they are Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 they don't quick charge our phones. AC or Cigarette lighter charger. Now, there is at least one brand of charger out there that @ 5 volts DC used to charge my Note 2 at 1800mA, but it was smart not quick.
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It does..i bought a quick charger for my htc one m9 before and it shows the fast charging when i tether the v10 to it
The phone will detect if it will quick charge when connected to a QC 2.0, you don't get a QC when you plug it in instantly, it will also depend on how much power you already have in the phone.
Aukey is a authorized with QC 2.0 and is listed in Qualcomm site.
I've got the power..
stevenlong said:
According the specification out V10 supports Quick Charge 2.0.
Does this mean any charge that support Quick Charge 2.0 should work? or it more hit or miss?
I purchased this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0144S0PDK
and when I connect it I don't see it indicating quick charge.
thanks
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thedrizzle said:
This one is tricky. Regular high-amp (2.1A) chargers don't seem to do the trick; its more about amps AND volts on this phone. The only other charger I've gotten 'fast charging' to work with is the Motorola Turbocharger I got with my Nexus 6. I suppose if you found a charger that outputs the same amperage and voltage as the LG charger it would work, in theory.
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Unless the chargers say that they are Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 they don't quick charge our phones. AC or Cigarette lighter charger. Now, there is at least one brand of charger out there that @ 5 volts DC used to charge my Note 2 at 1800mA, but it was smart not quick.
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What RDI said.
"Quick Charge" is not "Fast Charge" or "Adaptive Charge" - All of my 2.4amp Fast Chargers do not charge the G4 or v10 any faster than an old iphone power cube. YMMV
The V10 is Quick Charge qc (Qualcomm) 2.0.
There are already a couple of threads on the subject. here and here
@ZEROLEMON_OFFICIAL makes one of the best IMHO. Anker, Aukey/Tronsmart, and Motorola Turbo Chargers have qc 2.0 compatible ones. (always a sale on groupon or slickdeals)
Our phone, like the LG G4 switches to Quick Charge when the main screen is off. And tones it down to standard charging speed if you have the main screen on. The v10 Quick Charges at about 2850mA, slightly faster than the G4 at 2000~2200mA, but slower than the Nexus 6 at 2700~3200mA.
Attached are results by CoNsPiRiSiZe on this AT&T variant, and mine on Tmobile variant. Also included is my USB Doctor Sleeve using a Motorola Turbo Charger plugged into the v10 with screen off.
I am using the Samsung adaptive car charger while driving and it shows fast charging on the lockscreen
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Turns out I had a bad aukey charger, I bought another for my wife and it works fine, show quick charge.
Returning the bad one and getting another.
@clockcycle how are you able to measure current using ampere with display turned off?
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@clockcycle how are you able to measure current using ampere with display turned off?
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I have paid version with notificaion ebabled. But you can run it, leave phone alone so it can meassure. Then turn on screen and screenshot results. It takes a few seconds before it drops or remeassures.
Do these really charge all that much faster than a 2.1a charger? Debating if it's worth it to go invest into a few of these QC chargers.
Thanks
adambean said:
Do these really charge all that much faster than a 2.1a charger? Debating if it's worth it to go invest into a few of these QC chargers.
Thanks
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QC 2.0 allows up to a maximum of 3A of current. Every QC 2.0 enabled device will vary slightly in how much power they can draw due to internal circuitry. The V10 charges at about 2.85A as shown by Clockcyle so yes, a QC 2.0 charger will charge faster than a standard 2.1A charger.
Excellent, thank you! Going to pick up some of them now then.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Essential Phone can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
They claim that a 5 mins charge gets you 5 hours of battery. 1 hour and 30 minutes for a complete charge.
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
27W to be exact. And on another video review, it showed 5v @ 3A and 9v @ 3A on the charger. So this thing should charge pretty quick and I assume is just using the native USB-C Fast Charge capability which is just fine.
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
LastQuark said:
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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Yup, that would be a lie. Just because you have a 835, they would have to still implement QC themselves in order to leverage it.
And I believe Qualcomm loves to charge a pretty penny to flip that bit on for your device.
The device may still charge pretty quickly, but we will need some reports from those who have it in hand.
Anyone with it already have AccuBattery installed and see what the charging speed is plugged into its charger?
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I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
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From a review I watched, they said that the charger is capable of Charing 5 hours of usage time in 5 minutes.
I tried my s8 charger on it, the charger quickly heated up and stopped charging the device
When using the S8 charger, it show slow charging... Sucks
Soooo... What's wrong with using the included charger?
And Samsung uses some other form of Fast Charging that's proprietary to their own devices. It isn't Qualcomm quick charge at least at the generic level. Essential just uses the USB-C 3A fast charge ability which you will have to get separate from both Samsung or QC2/3.0 stuff which is a bit of a pain, but really not surprising. Same as the Nexus/Pixel devices.
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
I plugged in an Ailey quick charge charger. It first said charging slowly then changed to charging rapidly.
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It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
For those using Quick Charge to the PH-1, it is only compatible with QC 4.0 and not QC 3.0 or below. QC 4.0 is compatible with Power Delivery (PD) that PH-1 uses.
27W USB Charger
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
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Franksr said:
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Yeah.. that should be average.
IM0001 said:
That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
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Quick charge or no quick charge, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to charge faster than 3% overnight. It still said charging slowly when I got up this morning and said 5 days until full. It had actually only gone up 3% in the past 9 hours.
My battery is at 96% so it may not be the most accurate test, and it was over 1000mah on initial plug in and then slowly went down to what's on the screen shot after about a minute.
Is fast charging working with this phone?
I have belkin QC3 and I am thinking of buying this budget phone. I hope it is working even in sleeping mode.
Thanks
It seems to be a case of hit and miss so far. When I measure the charging current for the bundled charger/cable using Ampere it didn't even get close to the 2.4A current we should get.
Update: The max current I saw during charging is around 1950 mah, which isn't really considered fast charging.
Snapdragon 636 does support QC4 according to its datasheet but real life impression with the bundled nokia charger doesn't feel so quick indeed. I suspect poor charger quality is the culprit here (despite the fact it is 18W rated in specs) since no QC logo is printed on it
When plugged in, screen shows rapid chrging and cuts it off when around 80% + for battery protection I guess
If anyone charges the phone on an officially rated QC3 or QC4 charger please let us know
I also notice that the phone doesn't charge very fast using QC chargers, but when plugged into the USB C port of my (Anker or RAVpower) battery, it charges super quick. So I think USB-PD works better on this phone.
Specs wise, our phone's SD636 supports QC 4 which incorporates USB-PD standard, so if you charge on a certified QC4/usb pd charger plus the required cable, it will play fast and nice
Strange thing is that Qualcomm lists it only as QC3 device in their original device list found here https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list as if Nokia hasn't fully enabled the chipset's feature (?) for some reason...
Well, as long you see it charge super fast, I guess you can be happy with that
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.