When the phone is in direct sunlight, the phone changes the screen brightness. Somehow a slightly tilted square appears where the fingerprint sensor is located. It's not visible when manually setting brightness to the max. I hadn't noticed this before. When pressing the lock button, the square immediately disappears even though the screen off animation is still running, so it's probably a software thing.
Are there others who also have this (possibly on the February update as well)?
Whoops should've looked on reddit
Migush said:
Whoops should've looked on reddit
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Sounds like you found the answer on Reddit? If so, could you please post the answer here so other users can also have that knowledge? Thanks.
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Sounds like you found the answer on Reddit? If so, could you please post the answer here so other users can also have that knowledge? Thanks.
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I meant that someone had already noticed it before.
Now that the sunlight is even brighter I actually see another rectangle (proximity/light sensor?) just below the front camera. I get the feeling it's not actually a software thing but just the transparency of the screen that's making it possible to look inside the phone in bright sunlight.
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Are you saying there is knowledge on social media? Wink, wink..
Migush said:
When the phone is in direct sunlight, the phone changes the screen brightness. Somehow a slightly tilted square appears where the fingerprint sensor is located. It's not visible when manually setting brightness to the max. I hadn't noticed this before. When pressing the lock button, the square immediately disappears even though the screen off animation is still running, so it's probably a software thing.
Are there others who also have this (possibly on the February update as well)?
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That's the optical fingerprint scanner bud
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That's the optical fingerprint scanner bud
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Yeah I get that it has to do with the sensor. I just thought that somehow they had limited brightness in that area or something, but i.g. it's just the transparency of the screen that's causing it to be visible
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Hey there. After reading a few threads on various sites as well as on XDA-Developers I decided to make this thread. I have recently got a new Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100P on Orange UK) and I realized that underneath the screen there seem to be small dots. At first I realized this under direct light from a desk lamp, the dot on the top middle of the screen can only be seen under direct light at a certain angle, it looks like there's something on the actual glass because it seems to reflect making two dots in the same area. After doing further research I have found out that other people have been having similar problems, I also realized that under different angles I can actually find more of these dots around the screen when I look very close.
This does not seem to affect the screen at all whether it's on or off, it can only be seen when looking really close, with direct light pointing onto the screen and under certain angles.
Upon further research I ended up testing the screen with a black background in a completely dark room and I saw even more strange things which I'm not exactly sure how to explain, something that looks like lines all over the screen. I then read about people who've been using a sleeping app on which this issue was even more visible. I downloaded such an app and realized that in pure darkness the screen when it dims out with the app on does have weird lines and isn't pure black. The lines are black whereas he background is more of a really dark grey colour that glows. It's hard to explain, especially when your in a rush so I will throw up two images that describe the issue.
Issue 1: Dots
oi43.tinypic.com/21dk1ft.jpg
This is an example of the dots which can only be seen in direct light under certain angles.
Issue 2: Lines?
oi44.tinypic.com/2jg2xsi.jpg
This is something along the lines of what I see in a completely dark room on a black background or when the Sleep app is on a dimmed screen. The black lines are black whereas the background, the rest of the area that looks clean, looks sort of greyish and on the sleep app with a dimmed screen it looks like the grey area is glowing like one of them glow sticks.
Any ideas? Is this normal? So far this hasn't affected me in any way apart from the fact that I've noticed it, but then again I notice all sorts of imperfections in everything. Should I be worried? Could this affect the screen in the future? I've heard some people exchanged their SGS2's for new ones and still had the same problem? If this is normal, I guess I can live with it?
Thanks for your time.
Bump. Has anyone got any ideas suggestions?
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need some screenshots....
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They're right there, the TinyPic links under Issue 1 and Issue 2. I can't embed them because I've only just registered and need at least 8 posts.
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They're right there, the TinyPic links under Issue 1 and Issue 2. I can't embed them because I've only just registered and need at least 8 posts.
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O.k. sorry didnt realise.Just that I cant open them.
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O.k. sorry didnt realise.Just that I cant open them.
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I am not sure why. It works for me, but anyway I have reuploaded them onto another host.
Issue 1: s18.postimage.org/9brkdm7pj/21dk1ft.png
Issue 2: s18.postimage.org/ump4hvptz/2jg2xsi.png
These are drawings that I have made in paint because there is no way to screenshot whats actually happening.
No one knows? :0
I've seen posts similar to this on this forum before...
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No one knows? :0
I've seen posts similar to this on this forum before...
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Then search those posts for an answer no answer return to seller / service .
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I am not sure why. It works for me, but anyway I have reuploaded them onto another host.
Issue 1: s18.postimage.org/9brkdm7pj/21dk1ft.png
Issue 2: s18.postimage.org/ump4hvptz/2jg2xsi.png
These are drawings that I have made in paint because there is no way to screenshot whats actually happening.
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Sorry mate Ive tried but I still cant open them,and I have been trying
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Try using Home button + Power it should take a picture then atleast here its working
Hello,
I've recently got a Motorola 360 and i've noticed there's one small dot, i'm sure it's not a dead pixel as i shined a torchlight over the top and noticed there's just a gray dot whilst the screens off, Im unsure if Motorola will replace this for me? It's quite small so i can't capture it on Camera, It's just messing with my OCD
Do you use Wear Mini Launcher? If you do, it is a setting in there for "Enable assistive touch". Someone on another forum had pictures of something similar yesterday.
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Do you use Wear Mini Launcher? If you do, it is a setting in there for "Enable assistive touch". Someone on another forum had pictures of something similar yesterday.
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Pretty sure it's not the assistive touch dot. He's talking about something that is visible with the screen off, and the assistive touch dot could certainly be caught on camera.
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Hello,
I've recently got a Motorola 360 and i've noticed there's one small dot, i'm sure it's not a dead pixel as i shined a torchlight over the top and noticed there's just a gray dot whilst the screens off, Im unsure if Motorola will replace this for me? It's quite small so i can't capture it on Camera, It's just messing with my OCD
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That would bother me, too. If it were me and it persists, I would definitely try for a replacement.
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Pretty sure it's not the assistive touch dot. He's talking about something that is visible with the screen off, and the assistive touch dot could certainly be caught on camera.
That would bother me, too. If it were me and it persists, I would definitely try for a replacement.
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Thanks for you responses I popped into store today and they confirmed it was a manufacturer fault in which they rightly exchanged me for a new product + I've noticed the new one seems to have a better display?
Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
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Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
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I don't have the phone myself but from what I understand yes the pixels do shift, try to use the AOD you should see that after a while it will appear slightly in a slightly different position
I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
AOD does indeed move things around. Nothing seems to stay in the same place.
As for burn-in. I used mine as a sat-nav for 8 hours today and no visible burn-in on the screen.
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I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
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use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
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use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
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I rarely have a piece of paper. Flipping over is always an option and pretty simple.
Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
CooLasFcuK said:
I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
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Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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That makes sense but I've seen people on forums saying that they see the clock moving with their eyes. I don't know whether they are on Nougat or Oreo. I'd be glad if someone tried AOD for 30 minutes and see if the clock moves. I place a piece of paper where the clock ends and it is effective to see the movement or the lack of it.
Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
I use the digital clock AOD. I notice it shifts between the top and middle of the screen throughout the day. I don't see it moving, but throughout the day I notice it's different positions.
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
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These are the important points.
Burn-in happens when 1: pixels are at a high brightness and 2: they're holding a static image.
It's a common misconception that burn-in happens because of pixels getting partially "stuck". This doesn't apply to OLED displays; what happens is that each subpixel has a finite lifetime due to their organic elements, and will slowly use up that lifetime while on. Running at design voltage and no PWM (e.g. full brightness) will use that lifetime at almost the fastest rate possible, and images that have both dark and light areas will burn in the worst.
This is why store displays, that tend to be blasting at either 100% brightness or (if whoever set the firmware is particularly stupid) full-bright/outdoors mode with a short sequence of static advertisement screens, can burn up even the most durable OLED screen.
As I understand, AOD is fairly dim even on its "bright" setting. It probably achieves this brightness via both voltage and PWM, so the pixels are both only actually powered part of the time and at much lower than design voltage; even if only one of these is true, that means each subpixel is being run at far below design tolerances, with an increase in lifetime as the voltage decreases/flicker increases.
That, the changing time, and the slight shifting of the image means that it's pretty unlikely that you'll be able to get the clock to burn in within a meaningful timeframe. If you're really worried about it, use the dim setting.
Actually My wife's display had some discoloration issues LG replaced the panel is all good now. Me personally I don't use Always on display I like to save battery even if its two percent. Now my HP Touchpad that I use as a clock has major burn in LOL.
Anyone else experiencing this? See attached photo. Bottom end of the screen, pretty much half way down and onwards, colours and get lighter at 0% brightness. Top of the screen is black, like an AMOLED panel should be, bottom is light with an almost green tint. Used a screen test app and can see the shift even more and also navbar burn/retention.
Not impressed.
As I ordered this on O2, via Mobile Phones Direct, who do I contact or do I go to Huawei? Only been using the device for a weekend!
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Anyone else experiencing this? See attached photo. Bottom end of the screen, pretty much half way down and onwards, colours and get lighter at 0% brightness. Top of the screen is black, like an AMOLED panel should be, bottom is light with an almost green tint. Used a screen test app and can see the shift even more and also navbar burn/retention.
Not impressed.
As I ordered this on O2, via Mobile Phones Direct, who do I contact or do I go to Huawei? Only been using the device for a weekend!
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You got a dud mate. Can happen on any oled screen unfortunately
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You got a dud mate. Can happen on any oled screen unfortunately
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Not impressed, but so be it...
I'll see what can be done in the morning
I have a similar issue
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...ro-greenish-display-screen-t3859268?nocache=1
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Not impressed, but so be it...
I'll see what can be done in the morning
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I'm sure they will give you another replacement to try
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Not impressed, but so be it...
I'll see what can be done in the morning
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Ok so on lowest brightness in a dark room the darks on xda for example is greyer bottom half of the screen. But tbh any oled I've tried struggle a bit at very low brightness on dark/grey colours. Staying that yours does look particularly bad on the bottom 3rd
I have that too in the bottom right hand side of the screen. I already spoke to Sky to get a replacement and they want me to send pictures.
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I have that too in the bottom right hand side of the screen. I already spoke to Sky to get a replacement and they want me to send pictures.
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I'm printing out the photos I've taken in colour and including it with me return, keeping them for my record too. They want me to factory reset the device so last thing I want is for them not to be able to replicate the issue. Unsure what tests they'll do, as it's going back to Mobile Phones Direct
That sucks mate. I've not followed screen issues on OLED devices closely across the brands...so surprised this is happening with a premo device. Hopefully there are only 1 or 2 cases for some of these major defects...as many more becomes worrying!
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That sucks mate. I've not followed screen issues on OLED devices closely across the brands...so surprised this is happening with a premo device. Hopefully there are only 1 or 2 cases for some of these major defects...as many more becomes worrying!
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I know right!
Another thing, sorry for off topic is I've switched from Three to O2 (number transferred a few hours ago and now using O2 with old number) and I'm getting absolutely terrible 4g speeds. At work at the moment and signal hasn't always been the greatest on my office, but hoping when I test speed when I leave and also when I'm home that speeds are decent. Otherwise I may end up cancelling this phone and contract, and maybe I'll see about the Pixel 3 XL on a contact back with Three, or maybe I'll go sim only and get the Oneplus 6T - as the likelihood of getting root for this device is looking slim.....
Wait for 1/11, which ius the AUS release date of the phone and an extra week and see if Funky Huawei offer rooted versions of this phone. The hardware by itself is far superior...it's a same there's a lot of bugs and problems letting it down though...and then there's EMUI...
I've had similar issue on mine but it's down the right hand side.. Three sending me out replacement on 9th Nov when back in stock
It looks like your navigation keys caused this awful OLED burn-ins. Use gestures instead of the keys instead.
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It looks like your navigation keys caused this awful OLED burn-ins. Use gestures instead of the keys instead.
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is there a way to change the background of the keys? e.g. to overlay on the app thats open rather than display on a white band?
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It looks like your navigation keys caused this awful OLED burn-ins. Use gestures instead of the keys instead.
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I use gesture this is my second phone. I've a funny feeling its something to do with the finger sensor and the pressure.
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I use gesture this is my second phone. I've a funny feeling its something to do with the finger sensor and the pressure.
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Using gestures here b no issues on day 2 lg panel 51
I'm worried that I will have same issue too. Bought mine from optus Australia. If problems exist phone will be going straight back
Hazzay88 said:
I'm worried that I will have same issue too. Bought mine from optus Australia. If problems exist phone will be going straight back
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Same here. I'll wait a few weeks to get a revised model then.
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I've had similar issue on mine but it's down the right hand side.. Three sending me out replacement on 9th Nov when back in stock
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Ive got the same issue only just started though which is weird!
if its carries one I am thinking of jumping ship not a massive fan of the curved edges but everything else about this phone wins for me just a shame they didn't keep it flat like the P20 Pro.
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Same here. I'll wait a few weeks to get a revised model then.
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So far I haven't had any issues. I hope I don't experience any any problems
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I've had similar issue on mine but it's down the right hand side.. Three sending me out replacement on 9th Nov when back in stock
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have you received your replacement device yet ? and if so how is it ?
Why do I see the underneath components of the fingerprint sensor under the display in direct sunlight !
because you bought a phone with under display fingerprint sensor ?
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because you bought a phone with under display fingerprint sensor ?
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I don't think it's normal for the components to be visible! It is very annoying and distracting
Mosman12 said:
I don't think it's normal for the components to be visible! It is very annoying and distracting
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Try using a grey/dark wallpaper for the lockscreen.
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Try using a grey/dark wallpaper for the lockscreen.
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Well the problem is ir is very distracting with WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram etc anything with light background!
What are you talking about lol
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What are you talking about lol
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You don't see it the components of the finger print sensor the small and large square between number 5 and 8. They are only visible in direct sunlight on light/white wallpapers
Did you expect a component that is able to read your fingerprint, located under glass, to be completely invisible in every possible situation? ?
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Did you expect a component that is able to read your fingerprint, located under glass, to be completely invisible in every possible situation? ?
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Actually OP has a pretty valid point, and you are being just annoying. Nobody expects to see stuff from under the screen no matter what on any device. Only the display contents are supposed to be visible.
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Why do I see the underneath components of the fingerprint sensor under the display in direct sunlight ! [/url]
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The above being said.. I don't think I can see this under my screen. I have never noticed this (but have not looked for it either). Either outside under sunlight or inside; on bright and/or white background apps. Mine is BOE screen, not LG, if that makes any difference.
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Actually OP has a pretty valid point, and you are being just annoying. Nobody expects to see stuff from under the screen no matter what on any device. Only the display contents are supposed to be visible.
The above being said.. I don't think I can see this under my screen. I have never noticed this (but have not looked for it either). Either outside under sunlight or inside; on bright and/or white background apps. Mine is BOE screen, not LG, if that makes any difference.
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This! Exactly, thank you.
Mine is BOE with serial production batch 18c28.