Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
tveith said:
Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
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I don't have the phone myself but from what I understand yes the pixels do shift, try to use the AOD you should see that after a while it will appear slightly in a slightly different position
I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
AOD does indeed move things around. Nothing seems to stay in the same place.
As for burn-in. I used mine as a sat-nav for 8 hours today and no visible burn-in on the screen.
CHH2 said:
I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
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use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
debugger919 said:
use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
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I rarely have a piece of paper. Flipping over is always an option and pretty simple.
Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
CooLasFcuK said:
I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
CooLasFcuK said:
Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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That makes sense but I've seen people on forums saying that they see the clock moving with their eyes. I don't know whether they are on Nougat or Oreo. I'd be glad if someone tried AOD for 30 minutes and see if the clock moves. I place a piece of paper where the clock ends and it is effective to see the movement or the lack of it.
Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
I use the digital clock AOD. I notice it shifts between the top and middle of the screen throughout the day. I don't see it moving, but throughout the day I notice it's different positions.
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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galr said:
Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
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These are the important points.
Burn-in happens when 1: pixels are at a high brightness and 2: they're holding a static image.
It's a common misconception that burn-in happens because of pixels getting partially "stuck". This doesn't apply to OLED displays; what happens is that each subpixel has a finite lifetime due to their organic elements, and will slowly use up that lifetime while on. Running at design voltage and no PWM (e.g. full brightness) will use that lifetime at almost the fastest rate possible, and images that have both dark and light areas will burn in the worst.
This is why store displays, that tend to be blasting at either 100% brightness or (if whoever set the firmware is particularly stupid) full-bright/outdoors mode with a short sequence of static advertisement screens, can burn up even the most durable OLED screen.
As I understand, AOD is fairly dim even on its "bright" setting. It probably achieves this brightness via both voltage and PWM, so the pixels are both only actually powered part of the time and at much lower than design voltage; even if only one of these is true, that means each subpixel is being run at far below design tolerances, with an increase in lifetime as the voltage decreases/flicker increases.
That, the changing time, and the slight shifting of the image means that it's pretty unlikely that you'll be able to get the clock to burn in within a meaningful timeframe. If you're really worried about it, use the dim setting.
Actually My wife's display had some discoloration issues LG replaced the panel is all good now. Me personally I don't use Always on display I like to save battery even if its two percent. Now my HP Touchpad that I use as a clock has major burn in LOL.
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Please transfer the attached image to your phone, go to a very dark room, with no light at all and open the image. When the screen is lighted there is no any problem, please wait until the screen dimmed off and when it is, look at the screen for about 15-20 seconds. Do you see black spots on the more pale background? look at it close to the screen.
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Don't kill me, I have to know.
Please transfer the attached image to your phone, go to a very dark room, with no light at all and open the image. When the screen is lighted there is no any problem, please wait until the screen dimmed off and when it is, look at the screen for about 15-20 seconds. Do you see black spots on the more pale background? look at it close to the screen.
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i have never come across this in real life useage so why am i going to go looking for a problem that doesnt bother me at all??
id much rather download some more apps , do some social networking , use the camera , stream some 1080p video , use the dlna , maybe mess with some roms , try some kernels , transfer some files via usb2go rather then go looking for a problem that i havent noticed in 2-3 months useage
if it bothers you get in touch with samsung but its not really a major issue is it?? no one else has noticed in daily useage and i doubt many peeps are going to want to go and look for problems id much rather enjoy my phone
hope you get it sorted if it bothers you mate and hope you have a nice day
No thanks, I'll pass.
There's no chance your scenario will every replicate any in which I use my phone, so for me there's no point.
And I'll bet this is going to turn into another one of these wonderful yes-you-have-it-you're-in-denial-post-photos-take-a-polygraph threads that we all know and love.
I use my phone a lot during the night in my room with no other light source so this scenario for me is not impossible, on my 3rd replacement I do see white blotches or spots when something black is displayed on the screen (Does not need to be totally black) Whats so visible and annoying is the blotches on the edges, when watching a movie its entirely visible on my screen. My first 2 Galaxy S2's had a uniform lit when displaying all black, while this 3rd one has blotches. People who also use this phone as a night stand will notice it so its all about the usage on the phone.
I believe this is the one they call finger prints behind the screen.. Not sure though..
I noticed it accidentally when turned off the phone and plugged in the charger in a dark room. It is not only spots but stripes also.
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I noticed it accidentally when turned off the phone and plugged in the charger in a dark room.
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Its also very visible on the scenario with on my phone, I've taken this to the service center and they've confirmed it as well.. Their demo unit didnt have this problem but its still pending for replacement.
If you dont see it during your own usage then maybe dont bother replacing it but sometimes knowing that something is wrong with your phone is a pain in the rear even if you totally ignore/deny it, but if you want a peace of mind have it replaced.
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Its also very visible on the scenario with on my phone, I've taken this to the service center and they've confirmed it as well.. Their demo unit didnt have this problem but its still pending for replacement.
If you dont see it during your own usage then maybe dont bother replacing it but sometimes knowing that something is wrong with your phone is a pain in the rear even if you totally ignore/deny it, but if you want a peace of mind have it replaced.
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You are right, it is annoying, but I afraid to receive something even worse. How did you manage to show this problem in the service center?
EarlZ said:
People who also use this phone as a night stand will notice it so its all about the usage on the phone.
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Maybe the people not blessed with your high expectations will give a toss - but who knows, you're so high up on your pedestal of self-righteousness that I can't see you.
Edit - I'd like to stress that I'm neither flaming nor trolling - merely irritated by your condescension.
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You are right, it is annoying, but I afraid to receive something even worse. How did you manage to show this problem in the service center?
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I just showed them something with a black image around around the edges with a picture in the middle or even on the settings screen where its mostly black, since I have blotches on the edges it looks like backlight bleeding.
ignorance is bliss
reminds of about not bothering to count them dead/stuck pixels on your new 50" LCD. otherwise you will be pissed, because you know where it is...
Get an iPhone 4 - that doesn't have any of the problems that you describe.
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Get an iPhone 4 - that doesn't have any of the problems that you describe.
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but it has a lot of other problems.
I also noticed some irregularities with the screen. Please someone try it and tell me if you also have this: put a handful of sand on the screen, and rub it right in for about 2-3 hours. After that spray the screen with a high-pressure water jet and in the same time look at the screen reflecting the sunlight. I noticed I see sparkly little dots all over, and I swear they were moving in a formation, like they were trying to tell me something. Do you guys see it?
Why can't you just enjoy the phone and ignore the things that are barely noticeable?
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but it has a lot of other problems.
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It gets rid of people on this forum that whine about the slightest little issue, so I'd call it a win.
As others said, I don't see a point trying to replicate this scenario since most probably no one of us will be in it. Even if the problem is there we are not affected by it. That's what is important to me
Thanks anyway
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I also noticed some irregularities with the screen. Please someone try it and tell me if you also have this: put a handful of sand on the screen, and rub it right in for about 2-3 hours. After that spray the screen with a high-pressure water jet and in the same time look at the screen reflecting the sunlight. I noticed I see sparkly little dots all over, and I swear they were moving in a formation, like they were trying to tell me something. Do you guys see it?
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Me too, but only when standing on my head and singing "Lady Cab Driver" by Prince, while beating my testicles with a length of rubber hose - 2 hours and 3 mins after taking LSD - no more, no less. Unfortunately, I always use my phone under these conditions.
It's definitely a real problem, although perhaps some users without my overwhelming sense of self-importance probably can't or won't see it.
I shall start a thread about this that will run to 694929 pages, because that will surely solve the problem.
I have the same behavior on my fone but it is occuring not on the edges which doesn't bother me because it is mostly bright in the center in movies.
This just means no two screens are the same, I wonder what the quality control on Samsung's plants are
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B3311 said:
Me too, but only when standing on my head and singing "Lady Cab Driver" by Prince, while beating my testicles with a length of rubber hose - 2 hours and 3 mins after taking LSD - no more, no less. Unfortunately, I always use my phone under these conditions.
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Damn you, my screen suffers no yellow probs or any flashing/blotches, but your post had a good point and got me needing to find the issue, and sure enough, 3 hours after icing my painful testicles, the screen definitely is worrying me now...I think I dropped acid on it.
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Maybe the people not blessed with your high expectations will give a toss - but who knows, you're so high up on your pedestal of self-righteousness that I can't see you.
Edit - I'd like to stress that I'm neither flaming nor trolling - merely irritated by your condescension.
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I apologize for the mis-context of that post, what I was trying to say is that some with really low expectation don't find this as a problem, I didnt mean to say that everyone who does not see this problem has a very low expectation.
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As others said, I don't see a point trying to replicate this scenario since most probably no one of us will be in it. Even if the problem is there we are not affected by it. That's what is important to me
Thanks anyway
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Agree, if by your usage your not affected by the problem then dont bother chances are theres gonna be another issue with the replacement phone, on my end im a bit unlucky though as its very visible on the edges, looks like backlight bleeding
I was really looking forward to the GS2 on AT&T, but then somebody mentioned screen burn, and I was just curious how susceptible to screen burn it is? Is it something that I would need to worry about?
I've had my SGS2 since may when it first came out. I noticed it last week when using the PlayerPro music app.
The background is on this app is grey which includes where the status bar normally is. I could see where the battery, time, alarm clock icon and signal bars have burnt in.
Then i noticed i can faintly see the home screen app icons when i pull the notification bar down.
So yes.. screen burn is real. Very disappointing. I'd rather have LCD than this amoled that starts to burn in after 4 months. I'm wondering if this'll be covered by the warranty.
Anyone else getting this too?
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I've had my SGS2 since may when it first came out. I noticed it last week when using the PlayerPro music app.
The background is on this app is grey which includes where the status bar normally is. I could see where the battery, time, alarm clock icon and signal bars have burnt in.
Then i noticed i can faintly see the home screen app icons when i pull the notification bar down.
So yes.. screen burn is real. Very disappointing. I'd rather have LCD than this amoled that starts to burn in after 4 months. I'm wondering if this'll be covered by the warranty.
Anyone else getting this too?
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Did you leave your screen on for long periods of time? Screen burn in is a 'feature' of amoleds, but I think you've gotta try kinda hard to make it happen...
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Did you leave your screen on for long periods of time? Screen burn in is a 'feature' of amoleds, but I think you've gotta try kinda hard to make it happen...
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No I don't have the screen on for long. It is set to 15 second time out. I don't use it that much during the day at work. I never watch movies on it or play games. Just calls, text email and net with a few apps.
What brightness level you use?
I have it set too auto brightness. See attached.
Download PlayerPro its free. you might see burn starting on yours too. also show up in google sky map quite clearly.
I took a screen shot to see if it carried the effect over to my pc.. Don't laugh! The iPad burn works like that. It must be a memory related thing. Anyway..thats not the case on the SGS2
Well if you have auto brightness on, wouldn't that mean sometimes your brightness level would be exceedingly high enough to cause a screen burn? I haven't experienced any screen burn yet, even though I tend to have 4-5 hours of display time watching a lot of videos.
My brightness is at 50% and its definitely got some burn in. Very disappointing.
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My brightness is at 50% and its definitely got some burn in. Very disappointing.
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Yeah it sucks. F*** samoled+, the trade off isn't worth it. What will my phone be like in another 4 months? Willl Samsung do anything about it? Probably not
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Well if you have auto brightness on, wouldn't that mean sometimes your brightness level would be exceedingly high enough to cause a screen burn?
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No really..it never seems that bright to me? If it ever did get bright i would turn it down as its a waste of battery
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I haven't experienced any screen burn yet, even though I tend to have 4-5 hours of display time watching a lot of videos.
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I don't think watching videos will do make noticeable burn. You need static images to create the burn. Download Playerpro, its free in the market, play a song and look at the task bar area and post back.
You mean when the top screen is covered in gray by the app listing the song, instead of showing the notification bar?
Well I downloaded playerpro and played a song (loca people by sak Noel-in case you were wondering ) and there appeared to be some very faint blobs where the status bar icons are. BUT they seemed to fade after a few seconds, maybe my screen is not quite there yet, but it seems to be heading in that direction.
I dread to think what I'd do if there was burn in anywhere other than the status bar. I think I would die.
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Well I downloaded playerpro and played a song (loca people by sak Noel-in case you were wondering ) and there appeared to be some very faint blobs where the status bar icons are. BUT they seemed to fade after a few seconds, maybe my screen is not quite there yet, but it seems to be heading in that direction.
I dread to think what I'd do if there was burn in anywhere other than the status bar. I think I would die.
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Good tune! I didn't notice the burn until installed PlayerPro. It doesn't really show in other apps or homescreens. Hopefully it won't get any worse
This issue is pretty well documented with AMOLED, but really, how long do folks keep their devices around here?
I get a new phone at least once a year, sometimes as many as two or three times a year if I decide to sell/trade/upgrade, etc., so even in the event of some small burn-in, it's not something I'm going to obsess about. My phone is a tool, and it does what I need it to do, and when it doesn't, I get another... and I'm not rich, and I do like to take good care of my equipment, but I expect that there's going to be some trade-offs in terms of design... and I suspect that most of us knew about this AMOLED burn-in issue, same as with plasma TVs, though maybe not all.
Yeah but screen burn is going to seriously lower the value of the phone for a trade.
You said it's a pretty well documented issue with AMOLED, but does SAMOLED have the same issue....or is it different?
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and I suspect that most of us knew about this AMOLED burn-in issue, same as with plasma TVs, though maybe not all.
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A year or two I can live with that. But 16 weeks? The phone cost more than than the average plasma TV too!
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This issue is pretty well documented with AMOLED, but really, how long do folks keep their devices around here?
I get a new phone at least once a year, sometimes as many as two or three times a year if I decide to sell/trade/upgrade, etc., so even in the event of some small burn-in, it's not something I'm going to obsess about. My phone is a tool, and it does what I need it to do, and when it doesn't, I get another... and I'm not rich, and I do like to take good care of my equipment, but I expect that there's going to be some trade-offs in terms of design... and I suspect that most of us knew about this AMOLED burn-in issue, same as with plasma TVs, though maybe not all.
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Thats all good and weel if you can afford it but most people cant and are tied in to 2 year contracts ive had my phone 4 months and the burn in is terrible i took it back to carphone warehouse and they tried to fob me off saying theyd never seen or heard of screen burn on a phone and to ring samsung so now my phones on its way to them to have the screen replaced under warranty
So for anyone suffering from this issue get onto samsung and get it sorted thats what the 2 year warranty is for
So, how did it go with that screen replacement. Did you get it covered under warranty?
I went to the Microsoft Store today to check out a Lumia 800. I knew about the pentile matrix and all that. But what I wasn't expecting was to see burn-in images on the screen.
I noticed that no matter which application I open up, there was always a slight remnant of the "messaging" and "e-mail" tiles. It came as a surprise because I have never seen burn-ins on recent displays.
Has anyone experienced this? Or perhaps should I just assume that it's a phone that's likely been heavily stressed at the Microsoft Store? I hope it's just the unit I played with.
Also the whites aren't quite as white as my HD2. Can anyone give an opinion on the display of whites compared to other phones?
Thanks in advance. It's a great phone and I will most likely be getting one.
AMOLED screens do indeed suffer from burn in, unfortunately.
I haven't heard about burn-in of AMOLED screens, i must research it. Hopefully it'll fade. However i have noticed the whites are light blue. Really caught my attention because the blacks are so black.
EDIT: well apparently the burn in is permanent.
Apparently the burn-ins only happened while the same image is displayed.
And since it was a store and the demo models are usually stuck on the same menu screen for an excessive amount of time (especially if sleep is disabled and left over night).. burn in can easily occur.
I can say that in my 2 years of having the original Galaxy S, I've never experienced a burn-in
I have seen burn-ins on LCD and plasma screens as well. But AMOLED is more susceptible of the three technologies. More details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in#Plasma.2C_LCD_and_OLED_displays
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Comparatively speaking the chances of burn-in on LCD is negligible compared to OLED and plasma. You usually just get some temporary ghosting which disappears after a while.
I don't think you'll get a burn in on your Lumia with normal use. It sleeps automatically after a while, so this sort of things is prevented. I have never been looking at the same screen for hours, so a burn in won't happen very easily I think...
If you run your phone for hours at full brightness with a static image being displayed - as it is done in stores - you will notice burn-in on AMOLEDs. You will notice it on some other popular display technologies as well, but AMOLED is more susceptible for that kind of problem.
In real usage scenarios, you won't normally have to deal with burn-in.
Gave a thanks to everyone for your help.
It sounds like the unit I saw at the Microsoft Store is just under abnormal conditions. It's probably just overworked.
I'm going to assume that under normal operations, the screen should do just fine without burn-ins.
Time to buy Amazon U.S. is selling for $529, good deal?
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Gave a thanks to everyone for your help.
It sounds like the unit I saw at the Microsoft Store is just under abnormal conditions. It's probably just overworked.
I'm going to assume that under normal operations, the screen should do just fine without burn-ins.
Time to buy Amazon U.S. is selling for $529, good deal?
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I think indeed that the unit in the MS Store was just on the home screen for hours and hours. Not a real use scenario
Seems like a nice deal, over here it's €470, it's almost the same.
I got burn in on my focus; since then I've been very careful with my focus s and lumia. My best advice, besides the obvious of not leaving the screen on for extended periods, is to move your top 4 tiles around from time to time.
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I got burn in on my focus; since then I've been very careful with my focus s and lumia. My best advice, besides the obvious of not leaving the screen on for extended periods, is to move your top 4 tiles around from time to time.
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You mean you've got a burn in with your tiles on normal usage? Hmm, I'll be careful
Depends on what you mean by normal usage. I had my screen on high, 5 minute timeout. Sometimes I remembered to lock it, sometimes I didn't and it sat there for 5 minutes. I won't do that again ;-)
Yeah that's not good for AMOLED.
Lock time 1 minute won't cause a problem, I guess?
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Lock time 1 minute won't cause a problem, I guess?
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I doubt it, but at the very least I'd have it set to dim at 30 seconds just to be safe.
To OP, can you post some SS?
one of my phone was the omnia hd witch has the first AMOLED screen and after 2 years my screen is perfect, now i bought a lumia 800 but i still have the omnia hd and the screen is simply perfect.
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To OP, can you post some SS?
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I haven't been back to the Microsoft store. If I go back and take a look at it in the near future, I'll try to get a few pictures. Chances are I won't though because my Lumia's coming in the mail
Im having the same issue, but mines 10x worse. It started with a small dark patch in the corner but slowly spread and now I have a really severe burn-in of my messaging, complete with "April" and my girlfriends name and the keyboard burned into it.
A number of reviewers have noted serious issues with the ips lcd panel on the lg g5, specifically backlight bleeding and "blooming" (when pressure from touching the screen causes distortion). Has anyone else out there with the g5 experienced these issues? If so, will you try to return and get a replacement?
Have noticed neither of these problems. I don't ever run 100% brightness on the screen, then switch to a black background and go into a bathroom and view the screen. And, I don't press the screen hard enough to cause distortion. If you don't do these things, you will never notice an issue.
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Have noticed neither of these problems. I don't ever run 100% brightness on the screen, then switch to a black background and go into a bathroom and view the screen. And, I don't press the screen hard enough to cause distortion. If you don't do these things, you will never notice an issue.
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There is clearly a problem more or less with some units ( bleeding light).
And you don't need to push hard to cause distortion.
I have a very strangle faint vertical line on the right side. Not visible with a black background but looks almost blue-ish on a white background. Like a line of a very light shadow.
I've seen this issue too, but not enough to bother me. I didn't notice it with my phone until i read this post.
I think it's due to the design and battery placement. I think there's a very small gap between the battery and the screen, where the LCD is practically floating and when you put pressure on the phone, the screen deflects a bit until it makes contact with the battery. Otherwise, the battery would get scratched up if that gap wasn't there.
Yes, I have a 2nd G5 and it has the same vertical shadow, except much fainter. I wouldn't of noticed this new one if it wasn't for my first phone being so prominent.
Haven't checked for light bleed, but no bloom issues with finger presses whatsoever. I pushed as hard as I was comfortable on several locations and nothing. Also no shadow that I can make out and I am very sensitive to that kind of thing, especially if I'm looking for it.
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I tried swapping out the battery & bottom-chin-thing between my two phones and now my original first phone that had the worse 'shadow line' has improved a little bit. So there's definitely a fault between the contacts that's causing this effect.
It just seems like such a mixed bag in terms of quality control Kills me too, since I've been super stoked for this device since MWC
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I tried swapping out the battery & bottom-chin-thing between my two phones and now my original first phone that had the worse 'shadow line' has improved a little bit. So there's definitely a fault between the contacts that's causing this effect.
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I'm not completely sure what you mean by fault between the contacts, but i think the issue is due to very small and minute variance in battery shape or size. This variance is probably causing different pressure points on the bottom of the LCD screen causing the shadow.
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queso_burrito said:
It just seems like such a mixed bag in terms of quality control Kills me too, since I've been super stoked for this device since MWC
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Personally, I wouldn't call it bad quality control, but rather mechanical and structural design limitations with the materials currently available for use. The thickness of the G5 is only 7.7mm (0.303 inches), that's pretty incredible with a phone that has a removable battery. By comparison the Galaxy s7, is 7.9mm (0.311 inches).
I maybe speaking out of line here, but from an engineering point of view, I am impressed with the design. I am a little worried about the battery swelling up crowning the screen, but i guess i can change the battery if that happens. I've had some battery well up a little in the past...
I've had the phone for 5 days and the more i use it, the more i like it. Believe me, i'm looking for every reason to hate the phone while i still have 8 days to return it if i wanted to. After that, i'm stuck with it for two years.
I don't have any technical knowledge with this stuff but just thought perhaps there's some kind of interference or feedback happening near those plugs next to the battery inside that's causing it like when you hold a magnet up to an old tv.
The battery of my last two phones (Droid Maxx & Galaxy S5) both swelled up which is why I went with the only phone that offers a replaceable battery
FYI, I have a small magnet attached to the battery for my wizgear phone holder in my car. No issues with the screen when I press hard. There is definitely an interference fit now sliding the battery out, but it's not causing any issues.
poisonousjuice said:
I don't have any technical knowledge with this stuff but just thought perhaps there's some kind of interference or feedback happening near those plugs next to the battery inside that's causing it like when you hold a magnet up to an old tv.
The battery of my last two phones (Droid Maxx & Galaxy S5) both swelled up which is why I went with the only phone that offers a replaceable battery
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I'm pretty sure a swollen battery in a G5 will absolutely destroy the phone.
Fadman37 said:
I've had the phone for 5 days and the more i use it, the more i like it. Believe me, i'm looking for every reason to hate the phone while i still have 8 days to return it if i wanted to. After that, i'm stuck with it for two years.
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Ditto. The issues AP and others have reported, I've not seen at all. My only real complaint is not being able to do tap to focus reliably on the camera.
I have the led bleed issue, but now I also have image burn in as well. you can see a faint update popup box and notification bar on the screen.
I'm assuming the phone updated last night, and when it finished, it never turned the screen off and left me with what I'm hoping isn't a permanent reminder of the update pop up ghosted on my screen.
LCDs don't burn in. If you have anything it is image persistence. Leaving the screen off for a bit (like overnight) and should clear itself.
alexp999 said:
LCDs don't burn in. If you have anything it is image persistence. Leaving the screen off for a bit (like overnight) and should clear itself.
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I'm noticing it's going away on it's own by keeping the screen off, so you're right it isn't a burn in. thank you for informing me. I'm still getting it replaced however due to the backlight bleed.
A coworker of mine was given a G5 as part of an advocacy program. Within 3 days of getting the phone before the actual launch day, half the screen was unresponsive. We turned it off and next thing we saw was half the screen was showing the home screen, and the other half was stuck on the LG startup. Seems the G5 is having the same issue that LG recalled the G4 for.
scottricketts said:
Ditto. The issues AP and others have reported, I've not seen at all. My only real complaint is not being able to do tap to focus reliably on the camera.
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I agree, i wouldn't call tap to focus a 100%, but one of my favorite futures with the camera, is the manual focus. I think that for me that makes up for it. Do you know if the s7 has manual focus?
ive noticed this im on my 4th phone from att. I love the phone but i cant deal with it it bothers me too much. i will be returning it soon.
Hi there. Long story short I've already encounter a "mild" screen burn in on my brand new S9+ I receied last Friday. I say it's mild cause it dissapears after few moments but I'm not happy with that on almost £900 phone. Basically when I use AOD in blue and unlock the device I can see a ghost of the clock burned into my home screen. I reckon it's because it does not moe as much as it used to on my S8. Im attaching a short video but its hard to see in on there. And funny enough all it takes is few minutes for it to show up. Does anyone seen something like that before? My only concern is that if it's doing it already after few days how bad will it be few months in? I've contacted O2 to get it replaced but I hope my next one will be ok.
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Luk4shO said:
Hi there. Long story short I've already encounter a "mild" screen burn in on my brand new S9+ I receied last Friday. I say it's mild cause it dissapears after few moments but I'm not happy with that on almost £900 phone. Basically when I use AOD in blue and unlock the device I can see a ghost of the clock burned into my home screen. I reckon it's because it does not moe as much as it used to on my S8. Im attaching a short video but its hard to see in on there. And funny enough all it takes is few minutes for it to show up. Does anyone seen something like that before? My only concern is that if it's doing it already after few days how bad will it be few months in? I've contacted O2 to get it replaced but I hope my next one will be ok.
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In my experience, screen "burn in" doesn't go away after a few moments. So if it does, then it's not really burned in, and isn't really screen burn in, yet.
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That's why I've called it "mild" burn in. I know it doesn't go away cause I've had it on my previous Galaxy phones near the end of first year. This one does kinda ghost behind. I'm having a door swap this morning so hopefully it was just a case of bad batch. Also I managed to get a better video of what is occuring to my device if anyone is interested
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That's why I've called it "mild" burn in. I know it doesn't go away cause I've had it on my previous Galaxy phones near the end of first year. This one does kinda ghost behind. I'm having a door swap this morning so hopefully it was just a case of bad batch. Also I managed to get a better video of what is occuring to my device if anyone is interested
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Ye let's have a look
CuBz90 said:
Ye let's have a look
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youtu.be/_bUjJ7UG49o
Hopefully you can still see it with YT compression
Luk4shO said:
youtu.be/_bUjJ7UG49o
Hopefully you can still see it with YT compression
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That's much worse than you made it sound, in my opinion. I'd definately return it.
CuBz90 said:
That's much worse than you made it sound, in my opinion. I'd definately return it.
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Well, yeah. I was shocked as well cause in all my previous Galaxy phones I've never seen anything like that. Luckilly I'm only minutes away now from courier bringing the new one. Does your S9 show anything similiar? Or is it possible I've just got the dodgy batch?
Luk4shO said:
Well, yeah. I was shocked as well cause in all my previous Galaxy phones I've never seen anything like that. Luckilly I'm only minutes away now from courier bringing the new one. Does your S9 show anything similiar? Or is it possible I've just got the dodgy batch?
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I've been checking mine every day just to be sure and have had nothing like this. No burn in at all.
CuBz90 said:
I've been checking mine every day just to be sure and have had nothing like this. No burn in at all.
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Do you also use AOD? If so hopefully mine was just a bad one-off. The thing is, only few minutes are enough to make it seen. First time I wasn't even looking for it, phone was not moved for about an hour and then when I unlocked it it was pretty much black on white, that bad. A lot worse than on that video. Hope Samsung will notice the problem and make some adjustment to how AOD clock moves around cause it's moving nowhere as much as it did on my S8
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Do you also use AOD? If so hopefully mine was just a bad one-off. The thing is, only few minutes are enough to make it seen. First time I wasn't even looking for it, phone was not moved for about an hour and then when I unlocked it it was pretty much black on white, that bad. A lot worse than on that video. Hope Samsung will notice the problem and make some adjustment to how AOD clock moves around cause it's moving nowhere as much as it did on my S8
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Ye I also use AOD
Got my replacement device this morning and I can confirm that this one does the same thing for me. The question is, am I really unlucky to get a bad batch or is the problem a lot more widespread on S9+?
I Can't see anything in your video....
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Have a look at the second video I've posted. Right where the clock is you'll se the ghost of it when I'll unlock the phone
This is why I very much dislike AMOLED. Sure, it looks pretty but you have to watch what you display, how long you display it, and the brightness of your screen. The Nexus 6 burned in on me in less than a week and that was the last AMOLED device I owned.
I've been debating on trying the S9+, mostly because it's almost impossible to find a decent device without AMOLED these days. Same with glass builds. Yeah, they look nice but they're fragile and prone to scratching.
Seems like everyone jumped on the AMOLED bandwagon and now the glass build bandwagon. It's looking like the notch is next.
ive read OLED screen will have a tendency "burn in" pixels that are always on. need to keep things moving.
Pavly28 said:
ive read OLED screen will have a tendency "burn in" pixels that are always on. need to keep things moving.
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Yeah but not on a new device when picture is displayed for only few minutes. I've had some burn in on my previous Galaxy phones but that was about 10 months into ownership, not days
Rule #1 never use white **** on AOD
Rule #2 never use white widget
Rule #3 Use Dark theme
im out
Speaking of dark themes are they ever going to have an entire black scheme, system-wide?
I can understand having white themes for LCD devices but I really miss the system color schemes of the jellybean days.
When the S5 came out, for example, the dialer was so damn bright you could use it for a torch! (flashlight)
Ridiculous.
It.Needs.To.Stop.Now
Also, burn in and persistence are different. With the former being permanent and latter temporary.
Hopefully it's not permanent.
I usually disable AOD anyhow.
It's really dim but I feel safer with it gone.
AL_IRAQI said:
Rule #1 never use white **** on AOD
Rule #2 never use white widget
Rule #3 Use Dark theme
im out
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AOD has been designed to keep shifting the content on screen so that burn-in doesn't happen. Not sure if anyone has noticed but I have noticed it on S7E and S8 so far.
cpufrost said:
Speaking of dark themes are they ever going to have an entire black scheme, system-wide?
I can understand having white themes for LCD devices but I really miss the system color schemes of the jellybean days.
When the S5 came out, for example, the dialer was so damn bright you could use it for a torch! (flashlight)
Ridiculous.
It.Needs.To.Stop.Now
Also, burn in and persistence are different. With the former being permanent and latter temporary.
Hopefully it's not permanent.
I usually disable AOD anyhow.
It's really dim but I feel safer with it gone.
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Use custom Samsung themes, or Substratum ones, they usually theme more stuff system wise
madnav said:
AOD has been designed to keep shifting the content on screen so that burn-in doesn't happen. Not sure if anyone has noticed but I have noticed it on S7E and S8 so far.
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I know it keeps moving, but it's better to play it safe and use other colors + without a background, still better than disabling it