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I have two batteries now. Assuming I want to use a spare so I always need to calibrate now? Hour do I handle a spare battery?
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Find an app called BatteryLeft. It will help you manage two batteries.
Easy
You might want to write down this procedure because it's pretty complicated.
Step 1. Mark batteries 1. and B.
Step 2. Use battery A until it dies.
Step C. Replace battery A. with battery 2.
Step 4. While battery B is being used, charge battery 1
Step Cinco. Once battery 2 dies, replace with battery uno.
Sorry for the overly complicated answer.
In short - don't stress out about it. Just replace the battery when it dies. Use the time you just saved yourself to do something useful like learning how to knit or something.
So i just received the battery i bought on Ebay marked as OEM New geniune, and its used, i can clearly tell by the contacts and the battery is scratched allover... Time to message the ebay seller -_-
I got battery left pro. Does it calibrate the system for me? Because I know your suppose to use battery calibrator app to calibrate one battery. But ihow would I calibrate the system for the second? Does battery left do that too?
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I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
Shortbus-Driver said:
I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
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You're right. That's what I was trying to say to the OP but he ignored me.
Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
Sdobron said:
Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
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Are you judging this based off of the battery meter, or based off of how long the battery runs before it dies?
When it dies..can't understand why.
i guess a picture is worth a 1000 words... have a look...
more pix for ur eyes ^_^
If your rooted, try battery calibration. Plenty of threads about, and varying methods.
If not, another battery, and if new, ensure charge fully, phone off, overnight, before first boot.
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forgot to mention i'm running [Rom]Wanam v3.2 at that time, currently on v3.4, the dark extended areas is me at work where i turn airplane mode on due to serious bad reception at work... sync is on rest of the time for gmail/whatsapp/kakao other than that manual updates on twit and some news apps...
u can see the first jump in the first pic, that was due to me exchanging with 1st spare battery( got 4 + original batt= total of 5)
i dont know if its the phone and exchanging batteries thats causing such high battery losses at the end of the battery life...
plus yesterday and the day before battery goes crazy when it reaches 30-20% and when i go for a restart to freshen things up... the phone wont switch on thinking the battery is totally dead... i put in the new battery and its @ 100% ... switch back to the old battery to see where the 30-20% went... it wont start...
now im thinking... keeping 1 battery in the phone with a charge from 0-100% actually takes the phone all the way to 0% but exchanging the battery wont...
how am i supposed to use the full potential of the batteries...
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If your rooted, try battery calibration. Plenty of threads about, and varying methods.
If not, another battery, and if new, ensure charge fully, phone off, overnight, before first boot.
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been using this app since my old sgs, it sure works and have been using it ever since...
tho in the [Rom]Wanam ... install procedure says that its backing up the battery stats and this lead me to think that a batt calibration is not needed... or am i wrong to think so?
If you change batteries, all previous data will be irrelevant, and you need to calibrate each time. You can do things manually by installing battery monitor widget, charge to 100% AND until the mA reaches zero (Voltage spills be approx 4200mV). At this point, quickly delete battery stats (menu / stats /) and immediately unplug.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Top help with monitoring, You can config the update rate and widget content so it shows mA, %, mV. Also have alarm when stops charging (if configured).
There is also an option for calibration, but I only use this method when done above first. Never discharge to zero, 1% min.
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If you change batteries, all previous data will be irrelevant, and you need to calibrate each time. You can do things manually by installing battery monitor widget, charge to 100% AND until the mA reaches zero (Voltage spills be approx 4200mV). At this point, quickly delete battery stats (menu / stats /) and immediately unplug.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Top help with monitoring, You can config the update rate and widget content so it shows mA, %, mV. Also have alarm when stops charging (if configured).
There is also an option for calibration, but I only use this method when done above first. Never discharge to zero, 1% min.
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Thing is, what's the use of having spare batteries if this will happen on each battery swap and having to go thru calibration means having a charger nearby...
and by 0% i didnt actually mean 0 but till that 1% turned the phone off
if what u said is true, then i guess i need some kind of script to help and keep the batt data even after swapping.. based on 1 good calibrated file swapping batteries should start from a certain point even if the batteries do lose some of their charge but continue to moniter things as they were... i dunno if what i said makes sense... correct me if i'm wrong
Not really 100% sure, but sure I have not always calibrated after a battery swap in the dhd..The previous battery was calibrated and performing well, and the replacement would have been very close to 100% charge. I didn't notice any irregularities in the battery data, or battery drain.
So I suppose a good bat stats file should help the phone showing relatively "accurate" data after a battery swap, if they're both "conditioned" (gone through a number of charging cycles, not straight out of thre box)
Maybe I could be wrong, but based on past experience.
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Not really 100% sure, but sure I have not always calibrated after a battery swap in the dhd..The previous battery was calibrated and performing well, and the replacement would have been very close to 100% charge. I didn't notice any irregularities in the battery data, or battery drain.
So I suppose a good bat stats file should help the phone showing relatively "accurate" data after a battery swap, if they're both "conditioned" (gone through a number of charging cycles, not straight out of thre box)
Maybe I could be wrong, but based on past experience.
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thanks a lot for ur replies ^_^ much appreciated
anybody else wanna shed some light on this ?
This is a good app for more info on battery drainage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Have you tried different radios/modems for better reception? if your phone is struggling to get decent reception its going to use your battery.
You could try changing to 2G only in wireless settings. used to help me alot.
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This is a good app for more info on battery drainage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Have you tried different radios/modems for better reception? if your phone is struggling to get decent reception its going to use your battery.
You could try changing to 2G only in wireless settings. used to help me alot.
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i'm already using it steve, thanx for the helpful info ^_^ , tho it has nothing to do with my strange problem... before going to work i switch to 2g coz i mainly use it for calls so after work is done, i wanna have fun with the phone so its back to 3g... i hardly have reception as i mentioned before is due to really thick walls and working underground in some rooms... its just common sense... plus im on latest modem and its actually performing better than other phones (nokia,BB,moto,iphones....) at where i work, 5 guys got convinced and got a sgs2 coz of mine lol
So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
I spoke with Sedio - they said I should unroot the phone and do a master reset. I can't believe that would make it work better - but I'd rather ask this community first.
Thanks!
Check in the accessory forum there is a couple things on the Seidio battery and some people there that have them may have run into the same issue and have a fix for it.
Can't seem to find a thread where people talk about aa problem with it. Can you point me in the right direction?
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I meant about the battery not that specific problem. If you post there they may have had a similar issue
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Ahh.. Ok - actually someone on AndroidCentral just responded indicating the same issue on a non-rooted phone.. I'm gonnna try doing a full restore to see if that helps..
Yeah. Give that a shout and let us a know if it helps.
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have this battery, after the initial eight cycles allow nearly complete discharge, allow to charge for at least two hours after phone indicates battery is fully charged..... my battery is working very well, just use a battery indicator from the market, I didnt piss around with any battery calibrators, think this might be your problem, have never used a calibrator on any of my phones with extended batteries. Android market probly has an app to wipe your ass.....do you really need it? Hope the analogy is clear to you.
LOL fair enough. I did do the full flash this morning - so I'm unrooted.. Hasn't seemed to help - drain looks the same.. Been through about 6 full cycles since I got the battery. What battery indicator program are you using? I have battery circle and it's got the same issue.
Again - battery lasts just fine - but the amount of power left is never accurately indicated to me - and that's the problem.
I have had many Seidio Batteries, dating back to the OG EVO. The problem I have with this particular battery is this: These batteries work "properly" when charged on an Independent Charger, NOT inside the phone. If you Cycle/Discharge/Charge with this Battery on an External Charger, the Battery should calibrate correctly. I still believe the issue with charging within the phone, is that the Mopho doesnt accurately measure the Battery Capacity. Try and External Charger, should solve your problems....
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Riggy -
Battery def is charging fully as I get tons of life - the MoPho only shows 1% left though for hours on end.. It's a matter of it doesn't see the correct amount of juice left. As per cutter2668, it may just be a situation of discharge - charge. Dunno.
As an FYI I did the full flash this morning, and I haven't really seen a difference in the phone telling me how much batt life I had left. I'll give it another day and hopefully after a period of time it will start reflecting a true number.
I have also emailed Seidio support directly on the issue.
So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Keep us posted and let us know how it goes.
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Don't know if said already but used battery monitor widget pro can be found on apktop or 4shared if can not find it let me know
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For free?
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So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Any luck on the new battery? Just noticed my extended battery is doing the same thing. :-(
So things still aren't working right. Battery shows 1 percent for half my day and the Photon just doesn't know. However, I read a thread on Amazon about a generic extended battery and someone suggested using Battery Monitor and using Voltage Based monitoring. Its certainly not perfect but it gives you a somewhat accurate reads on remaining battery. I truely wonder if this is OS or a hardware limitation.
Oh well.
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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Maybe this is an Android issue, I've read the LG Optimus S has the same problem with extended batteries.
I was really suffering from massive battery drain....see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012
ive now found out that i am having a very wierd problem...My rom is showing some 30% battery while 4ext shows 50%......Sometimes it is exactly the opposite....Once i discharged my phone to 2% (rom reading) and when i saw in recovery it says 17%....
I have completed many many cycles of battery from charging to full....and discharge to 0.....Also i used the battery callibration app SEVERAL times!!!!........But nothing seems to work...
Can somebody help...Please
I am really suffering from massive battery drain http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012 :crying:
Did you try to delete battery stats? Or use an app to improve battery life?
I have the same issue too when booting into recovery. I don't worry about it. I suggest the same as Ramjet in your other thread.
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I had this issue with my old battery and old charger,
Now I dont use my phone while charging , I charge other batteries with the wall charger while using other ones and everything is fine now.... battery % seems to be same in both android and recovery.
I have that same issue too. Lol maybe the recovery can't read the battery correctly. It'll show up higher in recovery and then when I reboot, it will read the same way like in recovery. Tried numerous batteries with the same result. Although I havnt tried battery calibrating. Ill give that a shot.
Is there any solution ??
Try klect's solution and go into recovery, wipe battery stats. Then let your battery drain and die. Then charge your battery back to 100% with no interuptions like pulling your phone off the charger too soon. When you wipe your batt stats you are getting ready to recaliberate your battery. After you let it charge to 100 percent. Let it drain to 0 a couple times to recondition your battery.
You do know that the evo 3D gives around 3 hrs of screen time dont you? even on stock rom on normal usage. If you have the wifi on all the times you'll get around 2:30 maybe 3 on a full charge.
Your battery certainly is draining faster than usual but have you tried keeping it idle and seeing what kind of drain you get? From that screenshot in the other thread it seems like your phone is getting some heavy wifi browsing or something (and do check if facebook or email apps are the culprit. Having push email on drains a lot)
And the recovery/rom reading wrong stats happens all the time. just recalibrate your battery like these good folks here have already suggested
Yes i keep wifi on all the time...
But once i kept my locked for abot 3 hours after full charge...when i unlocked it showed 99%...i was happy and i didn't do anything just surfing my screens it dropped very very fast to some 70 % !!!!
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you really should check your apps battery usage using one of the apps ramjet73 told you about
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There are a bunch of tips here.
Usually that kind of drain is caused by an app. Try running a stock ROM for a day or two and see if the issues go away. Or use one of the battery monitoring apps (BetterBatteryStats, SystemPanel Standard, Battery Monitor Widget) to determine which app is causing your drain.
It may take some work on your part to isolate the problem since there is no global solution to battery problems.
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top culprits are mostly facebook,email exchange,google maps and pretty much anything that syncs alot
Also try using you phone on min brightness auto brightness is also a battery killer
I cant beleive no one asked you this but which kernel are you using? And is it overclocked?
I am on mwakious 13.1 default...no changes to it
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
mutn10 said:
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
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1. I have never had an issue charging overnight infact this is the only time I charge my phone. I may get corrected hear but I think once the battery is full the charging stops.
2. You can charge your battery at any percentage a common misconception is that this harms batteries, that was true in the old days with but with the newer batteries these days I dont think it is. Also You should not let your battery run right down everytime and your device switch off before charging. I normally do this once a month but everyone has a different opinion with batteries. I am not saying I am right and they are wrong because I no expert these comments are purely my own opinion.
3. Even with apps closed there could be an app still causing a wakelock if you install BBS (BatterBatteryStats) you should be able to see what is causing your battery drain.
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1. I have never had an issue charging overnight infact this is the only time I charge my phone. I may get corrected hear but I think once the battery is full the charging stops.
2. You can charge your battery at any percentage a common misconception is that this harms batteries, that was true in the old days with but with the newer batteries these days I dont think it is. Also You should not let your battery run right down everytime and your device switch off before charging. I normally do this once a month but everyone has a different opinion with batteries. I am not saying I am right and they are wrong because I no expert these comments are purely my own opinion.
3. Even with apps closed there could be an app still causing a wakelock if you install BBS (BatterBatteryStats) you should be able to see what is causing your battery drain.
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Hmm I guess I found the app that causes awake time (groupon). Thank for your other opinions.
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Hmm I guess I found the app that causes awake time (groupon). Thank for your other opinions.
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Also be careful with Facebook App if you have it this has been known to cause wakelocks also
Charging ...
mutn10 said:
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
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1. Depends on your definition of "harm" - ANY form of charging will "eat" a little out of the "battery health" (for phones, notebokks and anything else) - however I believe that a well-planned charging strategy would be a great thing for a phone! And one at night seems to be perfect
The major trick IMHO is to avoid recharging with high currents - I believe the stand-alone recharger is pushing about 1000 mA while you will get like 475 mA from the USB port of a computer - that last one will generate a slower but MUCH HEALTHIER recharge (and will also avoid overheating). In order to control that you can run a custom ROM in the phone (in such a ROM for instance with the Siyah kernel it is possible to set those values above - and many other - with a program called STweaks). Of course that a smaller recharging current will mean a longer time to 100% but overnight that should not be a problem.
So the bottom line is that you should recharge as needed, and if possible plan for overnight recharging with the smallest current and at the longest possible interval (I try to do it every 2nd or 3rd night - but that is rarely possible - I need to get one of those 4200-4500 mHz batteries ).
2. Lithium can be generally recharged from any percentage - HOWEVER it is recommended to avoid always recharging from the same (high) percentage - that is a well-known problem with notebook batteries that are kept always plugged-in and are going 100% -> 95% -> 100% -> 95% -> 100% forever - that generates an aging much larger than expected, and some companies like Lenovo have a special mode of battery recharging strategy specifically to avoid that.
That being said I doubt that you keep your phone in the charger at all times, so that should be less of a problem. However I would avoid recharging too often from above 80-90%.
3. I understand you have found your "bad app"
A bit of a spaniard in the works here .
Just a warning we have had a number of posts >>> phone on charge all night dead phone in the morning .
Why i dont know but all have been motherboard jobs .
In theory it should turn off at full charge .
jje
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Is there a way around the Facebook App such as turning off notifications, or will it cause wakelocks no matter what? (which means only solution is to remove facebook) ?
thanks.