I have two batteries now. Assuming I want to use a spare so I always need to calibrate now? Hour do I handle a spare battery?
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Find an app called BatteryLeft. It will help you manage two batteries.
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You might want to write down this procedure because it's pretty complicated.
Step 1. Mark batteries 1. and B.
Step 2. Use battery A until it dies.
Step C. Replace battery A. with battery 2.
Step 4. While battery B is being used, charge battery 1
Step Cinco. Once battery 2 dies, replace with battery uno.
Sorry for the overly complicated answer.
In short - don't stress out about it. Just replace the battery when it dies. Use the time you just saved yourself to do something useful like learning how to knit or something.
So i just received the battery i bought on Ebay marked as OEM New geniune, and its used, i can clearly tell by the contacts and the battery is scratched allover... Time to message the ebay seller -_-
I got battery left pro. Does it calibrate the system for me? Because I know your suppose to use battery calibrator app to calibrate one battery. But ihow would I calibrate the system for the second? Does battery left do that too?
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I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
Shortbus-Driver said:
I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
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You're right. That's what I was trying to say to the OP but he ignored me.
Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
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Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
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Are you judging this based off of the battery meter, or based off of how long the battery runs before it dies?
When it dies..can't understand why.
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I just bought a new battery, samsung stock with charger...my question is how should I deal with them for best battery life. Keep the new battery in for stat and recondition? Also should I swap each day to keep both batteries healthy? How do you do it? Keep in mind the old battery is from launch in July.
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I just bought a new battery, samsung stock with charger...my question is how should I deal with them for best battery life. Keep the new battery in for stat and recondition? Also should I swap each day to keep both batteries healthy? How do you do it? Keep in mind the old battery is from launch in July.
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You have to put the phone to charge when off...about 10 hours...so then battery will be nice
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This isn't what I'm asking, if you have two batteries then your phone will only have stats for one. What's the best way to deal with it?
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This isn't what I'm asking, if you have two batteries then your phone will only have stats for one. What's the best way to deal with it?
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i never care about it..i just turn of the phone and put the other one...i dont think you need to do anything
me too. I never cared about reconditiong my battery. I just use it normally and it is still good.
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I think Sdobron has a very valid question.
When you switch batteries, not only the actual capacity will be displayed wrongly, but also the phone will collect confusing new stats, and mess up the stats for the previous battery.
Is there any way to swap battery stats?
Lmao...I've been using 3 batteries charging with an external charger for like 7 months now ....no conditioning and no issues
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You dont have to recondition your battery. Just put the other battery, and stats will be the new one's. Works fine.
i guess a picture is worth a 1000 words... have a look...
more pix for ur eyes ^_^
If your rooted, try battery calibration. Plenty of threads about, and varying methods.
If not, another battery, and if new, ensure charge fully, phone off, overnight, before first boot.
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forgot to mention i'm running [Rom]Wanam v3.2 at that time, currently on v3.4, the dark extended areas is me at work where i turn airplane mode on due to serious bad reception at work... sync is on rest of the time for gmail/whatsapp/kakao other than that manual updates on twit and some news apps...
u can see the first jump in the first pic, that was due to me exchanging with 1st spare battery( got 4 + original batt= total of 5)
i dont know if its the phone and exchanging batteries thats causing such high battery losses at the end of the battery life...
plus yesterday and the day before battery goes crazy when it reaches 30-20% and when i go for a restart to freshen things up... the phone wont switch on thinking the battery is totally dead... i put in the new battery and its @ 100% ... switch back to the old battery to see where the 30-20% went... it wont start...
now im thinking... keeping 1 battery in the phone with a charge from 0-100% actually takes the phone all the way to 0% but exchanging the battery wont...
how am i supposed to use the full potential of the batteries...
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If your rooted, try battery calibration. Plenty of threads about, and varying methods.
If not, another battery, and if new, ensure charge fully, phone off, overnight, before first boot.
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been using this app since my old sgs, it sure works and have been using it ever since...
tho in the [Rom]Wanam ... install procedure says that its backing up the battery stats and this lead me to think that a batt calibration is not needed... or am i wrong to think so?
If you change batteries, all previous data will be irrelevant, and you need to calibrate each time. You can do things manually by installing battery monitor widget, charge to 100% AND until the mA reaches zero (Voltage spills be approx 4200mV). At this point, quickly delete battery stats (menu / stats /) and immediately unplug.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Top help with monitoring, You can config the update rate and widget content so it shows mA, %, mV. Also have alarm when stops charging (if configured).
There is also an option for calibration, but I only use this method when done above first. Never discharge to zero, 1% min.
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If you change batteries, all previous data will be irrelevant, and you need to calibrate each time. You can do things manually by installing battery monitor widget, charge to 100% AND until the mA reaches zero (Voltage spills be approx 4200mV). At this point, quickly delete battery stats (menu / stats /) and immediately unplug.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Top help with monitoring, You can config the update rate and widget content so it shows mA, %, mV. Also have alarm when stops charging (if configured).
There is also an option for calibration, but I only use this method when done above first. Never discharge to zero, 1% min.
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Thing is, what's the use of having spare batteries if this will happen on each battery swap and having to go thru calibration means having a charger nearby...
and by 0% i didnt actually mean 0 but till that 1% turned the phone off
if what u said is true, then i guess i need some kind of script to help and keep the batt data even after swapping.. based on 1 good calibrated file swapping batteries should start from a certain point even if the batteries do lose some of their charge but continue to moniter things as they were... i dunno if what i said makes sense... correct me if i'm wrong
Not really 100% sure, but sure I have not always calibrated after a battery swap in the dhd..The previous battery was calibrated and performing well, and the replacement would have been very close to 100% charge. I didn't notice any irregularities in the battery data, or battery drain.
So I suppose a good bat stats file should help the phone showing relatively "accurate" data after a battery swap, if they're both "conditioned" (gone through a number of charging cycles, not straight out of thre box)
Maybe I could be wrong, but based on past experience.
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Not really 100% sure, but sure I have not always calibrated after a battery swap in the dhd..The previous battery was calibrated and performing well, and the replacement would have been very close to 100% charge. I didn't notice any irregularities in the battery data, or battery drain.
So I suppose a good bat stats file should help the phone showing relatively "accurate" data after a battery swap, if they're both "conditioned" (gone through a number of charging cycles, not straight out of thre box)
Maybe I could be wrong, but based on past experience.
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thanks a lot for ur replies ^_^ much appreciated
anybody else wanna shed some light on this ?
This is a good app for more info on battery drainage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Have you tried different radios/modems for better reception? if your phone is struggling to get decent reception its going to use your battery.
You could try changing to 2G only in wireless settings. used to help me alot.
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This is a good app for more info on battery drainage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Have you tried different radios/modems for better reception? if your phone is struggling to get decent reception its going to use your battery.
You could try changing to 2G only in wireless settings. used to help me alot.
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i'm already using it steve, thanx for the helpful info ^_^ , tho it has nothing to do with my strange problem... before going to work i switch to 2g coz i mainly use it for calls so after work is done, i wanna have fun with the phone so its back to 3g... i hardly have reception as i mentioned before is due to really thick walls and working underground in some rooms... its just common sense... plus im on latest modem and its actually performing better than other phones (nokia,BB,moto,iphones....) at where i work, 5 guys got convinced and got a sgs2 coz of mine lol
So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
I spoke with Sedio - they said I should unroot the phone and do a master reset. I can't believe that would make it work better - but I'd rather ask this community first.
Thanks!
Check in the accessory forum there is a couple things on the Seidio battery and some people there that have them may have run into the same issue and have a fix for it.
Can't seem to find a thread where people talk about aa problem with it. Can you point me in the right direction?
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I meant about the battery not that specific problem. If you post there they may have had a similar issue
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Ahh.. Ok - actually someone on AndroidCentral just responded indicating the same issue on a non-rooted phone.. I'm gonnna try doing a full restore to see if that helps..
Yeah. Give that a shout and let us a know if it helps.
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have this battery, after the initial eight cycles allow nearly complete discharge, allow to charge for at least two hours after phone indicates battery is fully charged..... my battery is working very well, just use a battery indicator from the market, I didnt piss around with any battery calibrators, think this might be your problem, have never used a calibrator on any of my phones with extended batteries. Android market probly has an app to wipe your ass.....do you really need it? Hope the analogy is clear to you.
LOL fair enough. I did do the full flash this morning - so I'm unrooted.. Hasn't seemed to help - drain looks the same.. Been through about 6 full cycles since I got the battery. What battery indicator program are you using? I have battery circle and it's got the same issue.
Again - battery lasts just fine - but the amount of power left is never accurately indicated to me - and that's the problem.
I have had many Seidio Batteries, dating back to the OG EVO. The problem I have with this particular battery is this: These batteries work "properly" when charged on an Independent Charger, NOT inside the phone. If you Cycle/Discharge/Charge with this Battery on an External Charger, the Battery should calibrate correctly. I still believe the issue with charging within the phone, is that the Mopho doesnt accurately measure the Battery Capacity. Try and External Charger, should solve your problems....
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Battery def is charging fully as I get tons of life - the MoPho only shows 1% left though for hours on end.. It's a matter of it doesn't see the correct amount of juice left. As per cutter2668, it may just be a situation of discharge - charge. Dunno.
As an FYI I did the full flash this morning, and I haven't really seen a difference in the phone telling me how much batt life I had left. I'll give it another day and hopefully after a period of time it will start reflecting a true number.
I have also emailed Seidio support directly on the issue.
So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Keep us posted and let us know how it goes.
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Don't know if said already but used battery monitor widget pro can be found on apktop or 4shared if can not find it let me know
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For free?
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So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Any luck on the new battery? Just noticed my extended battery is doing the same thing. :-(
So things still aren't working right. Battery shows 1 percent for half my day and the Photon just doesn't know. However, I read a thread on Amazon about a generic extended battery and someone suggested using Battery Monitor and using Voltage Based monitoring. Its certainly not perfect but it gives you a somewhat accurate reads on remaining battery. I truely wonder if this is OS or a hardware limitation.
Oh well.
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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Maybe this is an Android issue, I've read the LG Optimus S has the same problem with extended batteries.
i just got a new momax 2700mah battery still fresh from the box and put it on my phone.. initial battery level shows 22% but then after a few moment it jumps to 62% and stop charging afterwards.. i check using battery monitor app and it shows i only got about 100ma of current even though im using an AC charger to charge..
what should i do now? im puzzled because i can't even know what is my current battery level??
Try to charge it for couple of hours
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Hello,
You need to let him charged during few hours and after calibrate your battery stats with "Battery calibration".
Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
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i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
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They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
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ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
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ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
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No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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I didn't know the actual capacity for certain because I don't have the equipment to test that kind of thing, but my testing gave me around 10-15% more juice than the stock battery so I figured it was around 1800-1900.
Not exactly scientific, but after two weeks and a bunch of charge/discharge cycles, it was nowhere near the 3500mAh it was alleged to be, so I returned it. For me, I'd rather stick to a 2000mAh Samsung battery which was the same price as the genuine 2000mAh battery (~$40). I get fantastic battery life as it is, and 2000mAh is plenty for me. Plus I have the original 1600mAh which I store/keep charged @ 60/70% as a spare which I can charge to full quickly if I need it.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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how much better is the battery with it, i got it and the battery is the same
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how much better is the battery with it, i got it and the battery is the same
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Im on my 4th day of using the 1900 one. it seems regular to me. ive been fully charging and draining it for a few days now. havent seen a great improvement. oh and props on the supser sayain rom playa. I got like 2 days of battery life with that. are you going to make the newer versions for the 351.3 leak? or does it not really matter.
Damn that sucks. Right now I'm just using the external battery pack when I can't plug in my phone.
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Yeah same here. Not really a huge noticable difference. Then again a change in only about 200mah is not that much anyways. 1700 vs 1900mah
I have an Anker 1900 also. The life of the battery depends on how its conditioned. I also charge it in the phone and not with an external charger and I have noticed the battery life last longer.
I let the battery drain till the phone shuts off then charge it to 100%. I do that with my stock one as well. After a couple of days of doing that I reset my batt stats in recovery (4EXT of course) and continue the process over again.
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i have an anker and chichitec. both are better than the oem one. given that the oem one crapped out, i'm not sure how accurate my observations are, though.
One of the first things I did was get an Anker battery and honestly I couldn't tell that much of a difference. Granted I only had the OEM battery for about a week, but it seems like it drains at about the same rate, it might last just the tiniest bit longer, but its not much of a difference.
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how much better is the battery with it, i got it and the battery is the same
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My OEM is slightly better than either of my two Anker 1900 batteries.
I have not noticed any difference really. I have to charge me batt. every night after a days use. I keep an original batt charged and another anker. I switch them out. no ground breaking changes.
Hello everyone,
Just ran across this site. It looks very good and explains a lot about charging and overcharging Lithium-ion batteries. Hope you find it useful.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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I have not noticed any difference really. I have to charge me batt. every night after a days use. I keep an original batt charged and another anker. I switch them out. no ground breaking changes.
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the difference between stock amaze batt and anker (i doubt it's full 1900mAh anyway) is about 170mAh. def. not groundbreaking lol
After conditioning my Anker batteries (0-100 charge/discharge 5 times as recommended) using the external charger. I found that on average my batteries lasted about 30% longer than stock. Also I was getting random reboots, the grey battery icon error, incorrect battery % reports with the stock battery. All of that has stopped when using the Anker battery. I have also found that charging with the external charger will allow the Anker to last longer than charging in the phone. The Anker battery seems to operate at a lower temperature also. Overall I have definitely seen a substantial increase in battery life over stock. Although obviously not ground breaking it is a worth while investment especially with it being relatively inexpensive.
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After conditioning my Anker batteries (0-100 charge/discharge 5 times as recommended) using the external charger. I found that on average my batteries lasted about 30% longer than stock. Also I was getting random reboots, the grey battery icon error, incorrect battery % reports with the stock battery. All of that has stopped when using the Anker battery. I have also found that charging with the external charger will allow the Anker to last longer than charging in the phone. The Anker battery seems to operate at a lower temperature also. Overall I have definitely seen a substantial increase in battery life over stock. Although obviously not ground breaking it is a worth while investment especially with it being relatively inexpensive.
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I also conditioned mine, and they don't last as well as OEM, certainly not 30% better. Maybe your OEM was defective.
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If you want to compare properly – you need to calibrate each battery and use it with its own calibration profile. The results will be quite approximate otherwise.
I asked about app to switch battery profiles – nobody answered yet…
Even if it exists, it’ll work for rooted phones only, most likely…
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If you want to compare properly – you need to calibrate each battery and use it with its own calibration profile. The results will be quite approximate otherwise.
I asked about app to switch battery profiles – nobody answered yet…
Even if it exists, it’ll work for rooted phones only, most likely…
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I should think that a battery would work so long as it was stronger than the profile being used (the % might not be accurate, but it would at least run), but you bring up a good point.
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