I just bought a new battery, samsung stock with charger...my question is how should I deal with them for best battery life. Keep the new battery in for stat and recondition? Also should I swap each day to keep both batteries healthy? How do you do it? Keep in mind the old battery is from launch in July.
Sdobron said:
I just bought a new battery, samsung stock with charger...my question is how should I deal with them for best battery life. Keep the new battery in for stat and recondition? Also should I swap each day to keep both batteries healthy? How do you do it? Keep in mind the old battery is from launch in July.
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You have to put the phone to charge when off...about 10 hours...so then battery will be nice
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This isn't what I'm asking, if you have two batteries then your phone will only have stats for one. What's the best way to deal with it?
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This isn't what I'm asking, if you have two batteries then your phone will only have stats for one. What's the best way to deal with it?
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i never care about it..i just turn of the phone and put the other one...i dont think you need to do anything
me too. I never cared about reconditiong my battery. I just use it normally and it is still good.
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I think Sdobron has a very valid question.
When you switch batteries, not only the actual capacity will be displayed wrongly, but also the phone will collect confusing new stats, and mess up the stats for the previous battery.
Is there any way to swap battery stats?
Lmao...I've been using 3 batteries charging with an external charger for like 7 months now ....no conditioning and no issues
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You dont have to recondition your battery. Just put the other battery, and stats will be the new one's. Works fine.
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I have two batteries now. Assuming I want to use a spare so I always need to calibrate now? Hour do I handle a spare battery?
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Find an app called BatteryLeft. It will help you manage two batteries.
Easy
You might want to write down this procedure because it's pretty complicated.
Step 1. Mark batteries 1. and B.
Step 2. Use battery A until it dies.
Step C. Replace battery A. with battery 2.
Step 4. While battery B is being used, charge battery 1
Step Cinco. Once battery 2 dies, replace with battery uno.
Sorry for the overly complicated answer.
In short - don't stress out about it. Just replace the battery when it dies. Use the time you just saved yourself to do something useful like learning how to knit or something.
So i just received the battery i bought on Ebay marked as OEM New geniune, and its used, i can clearly tell by the contacts and the battery is scratched allover... Time to message the ebay seller -_-
I got battery left pro. Does it calibrate the system for me? Because I know your suppose to use battery calibrator app to calibrate one battery. But ihow would I calibrate the system for the second? Does battery left do that too?
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I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
Shortbus-Driver said:
I have 3 batteries ...2 standard that I charge with an external charger and one extended life battery.......I don't bother calibrating anymore.....never noticed any difference
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You're right. That's what I was trying to say to the OP but he ignored me.
Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
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Second battery always seems to have a much lower life when I do this. Maybe my stats are just way off since it's a much older oem battery
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Are you judging this based off of the battery meter, or based off of how long the battery runs before it dies?
When it dies..can't understand why.
So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
I spoke with Sedio - they said I should unroot the phone and do a master reset. I can't believe that would make it work better - but I'd rather ask this community first.
Thanks!
Check in the accessory forum there is a couple things on the Seidio battery and some people there that have them may have run into the same issue and have a fix for it.
Can't seem to find a thread where people talk about aa problem with it. Can you point me in the right direction?
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I meant about the battery not that specific problem. If you post there they may have had a similar issue
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Ahh.. Ok - actually someone on AndroidCentral just responded indicating the same issue on a non-rooted phone.. I'm gonnna try doing a full restore to see if that helps..
Yeah. Give that a shout and let us a know if it helps.
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have this battery, after the initial eight cycles allow nearly complete discharge, allow to charge for at least two hours after phone indicates battery is fully charged..... my battery is working very well, just use a battery indicator from the market, I didnt piss around with any battery calibrators, think this might be your problem, have never used a calibrator on any of my phones with extended batteries. Android market probly has an app to wipe your ass.....do you really need it? Hope the analogy is clear to you.
LOL fair enough. I did do the full flash this morning - so I'm unrooted.. Hasn't seemed to help - drain looks the same.. Been through about 6 full cycles since I got the battery. What battery indicator program are you using? I have battery circle and it's got the same issue.
Again - battery lasts just fine - but the amount of power left is never accurately indicated to me - and that's the problem.
I have had many Seidio Batteries, dating back to the OG EVO. The problem I have with this particular battery is this: These batteries work "properly" when charged on an Independent Charger, NOT inside the phone. If you Cycle/Discharge/Charge with this Battery on an External Charger, the Battery should calibrate correctly. I still believe the issue with charging within the phone, is that the Mopho doesnt accurately measure the Battery Capacity. Try and External Charger, should solve your problems....
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Riggy -
Battery def is charging fully as I get tons of life - the MoPho only shows 1% left though for hours on end.. It's a matter of it doesn't see the correct amount of juice left. As per cutter2668, it may just be a situation of discharge - charge. Dunno.
As an FYI I did the full flash this morning, and I haven't really seen a difference in the phone telling me how much batt life I had left. I'll give it another day and hopefully after a period of time it will start reflecting a true number.
I have also emailed Seidio support directly on the issue.
So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Keep us posted and let us know how it goes.
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Don't know if said already but used battery monitor widget pro can be found on apktop or 4shared if can not find it let me know
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For free?
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So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Any luck on the new battery? Just noticed my extended battery is doing the same thing. :-(
So things still aren't working right. Battery shows 1 percent for half my day and the Photon just doesn't know. However, I read a thread on Amazon about a generic extended battery and someone suggested using Battery Monitor and using Voltage Based monitoring. Its certainly not perfect but it gives you a somewhat accurate reads on remaining battery. I truely wonder if this is OS or a hardware limitation.
Oh well.
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
budney said:
I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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Maybe this is an Android issue, I've read the LG Optimus S has the same problem with extended batteries.
Just ordered at Amazon for $25. Batteries are 1800mah. Not many reviews but all are saying that there are NO boot loops and that they work with original back cover. My guess is that these are NOT NFC batteries. They should last at least as original battery. I'll update post when I find out.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams..._12?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1321308449&sr=1-12
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I tested my Hyperion batteries and they have about 5% LESS juice compared to stock battery. Another gripe is that charger output is rated as DC 4.2V 350mA (but mostly performs well below) so because of that, in my case, it takes 6+ hours to fully charge completely discharged battery. Some people reported 4 hours to fully charged state so each to it's own. If you charge phone thru charger's USB output you'll get full 750mA charge.
Anyway, considering all positives, negatives and price, I'm satisfied with this purchase and this is viable option for I777.
Positives
- no boot loops
- same form factor
- charger charge stock battery as well
- price (2 batteries and charger $25)
- extra USB output outlet (750-800mA)
Neutral
- batteries hold close to stock (it was expected knowing that weigh and size of batteries don't differ much compered to stock)
- not NFC compatible (not much of use for NFC right now)
Negative
- slow battery charging (~350mA)
- batteries hold ~12% less then advertised (~5% less then stock battery)
- once it gets below 20% it drains faster. Especially true for last 10%.
Maybe it'll get better over time. If someone found a way to properly calibrate this battery to show full potential, don't be shy, let us know.
http://batteryboss.org/
UPDATE 2
See post #14!
I recieved these batteries/charger last Tuesday. The batteries work fine, seem to hold close to the same charge as the stock battery. Charger works fine with both stock and replacement batteries. No NFC. They actually seem just very slightly thinner than the stock battery, I'm certain they couldn't possibly rate a full 1800mah. Either way, I'm cool with it...between these two Hyperion and my two stock Samsung batteries, I have completely stopped worrying about battery life and I can enjoy my device.
Thanks for heads up! I'm looking to have same experience with these batteries. And I'm glad to hear that charger works with stock battery as well.
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I recieved these batteries/charger last Tuesday. The batteries work fine, seem to hold close to the same charge as the stock battery. Charger works fine with both stock and replacement batteries. No NFC. They actually seem just very slightly thinner than the stock battery, I'm certain they couldn't possibly rate a full 1800mah. Either way, I'm cool with it...between these two Hyperion and my two stock Samsung batteries, I have completely stopped worrying about battery life and I can enjoy my device.
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I can just confirm that everything previously noted above stands true. No surprises here.
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So there isn't any extra battery life with this battery compared to the stock battery?
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So there isn't any extra battery life with this battery compared to the stock battery?
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No there isn't. At least I didn't notice.
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Does 1800mah hyperion battery last longer than the stock battery ?. What is the certain hour for that and btw mugen & hyperion battery which one is better ???. Mugen seems to be expensive...
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Does 1800mah hyperion battery last longer than the stock battery ?. What is the certain hour for that and btw mugen & hyperion battery which one is better ???. Mugen seems to be expensive...
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Friend of mine got Mugen battery. I gave him one Hyperion for test purposes. He was so mad because they lasted the same. Man, if you wanna preserve same form factor and save some $ buy either stock or Hyperion. For me, there is no question about that.
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I've been cycling between the hyperion batteries and my stock battery for the last few days.
I've noticed that my battery life drops twice as fast with hyperion vs stock. Has anybody else noticed this? Usage is the same and I'm running CM7.
Is this some weird calibration issue and the battery actually has more than is reported?
I think it's the hyperion batterys, i bought one a few Weeks back but its 8% lesser battery life then stock atleast for me..
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I've been cycling between the hyperion batteries and my stock battery for the last few days.
I've noticed that my battery life drops twice as fast with hyperion vs stock. Has anybody else noticed this? Usage is the same and I'm running CM7.
Is this some weird calibration issue and the battery actually has more than is reported?
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Yep. It takes 4-5 full charges to "properly" calibrate, but don't worry, it'll hold close as stock battery.
I updated my OP.
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alex72 said:
Just ordered at Amazon for $25. Batteries are 1800mah. Not many reviews but all are saying that there are NO boot loops and that they work with original back cover. My guess is that these are NOT NFC batteries. They should last at least as original battery. I'll update post when I find out.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams..._12?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1321308449&sr=1-12
UPDATE
I tested my Hyperion batteries and they have about 5% LESS juice compared to stock battery. Another gripe is that charger output is rated as DC 4.2V 350mA (but mostly performs well below) so because of that, in my case, it takes 6+ hours to fully charge completely discharged battery. Some people reported 4 hours to fully charged state so each to it's own. If you charge phone thru charger's USB output you'll get full 750mA charge.
Anyway, considering all positives, negatives and price, I'm satisfied with this purchase and this is viable option for I777.
Positives
- no boot loops
- same form factor
- charger charge stock battery as well
- price (2 batteries and charger $25)
- extra USB output outlet (750-800mA)
Neutral
- batteries hold close to stock (it was expected knowing that weigh and size of batteries don't differ much compered to stock)
- not NFC compatible (not much of use for NFC right now)
Negative
- slow battery charging (~350mA)
- batteries hold ~12% less then advertised (~5% less then stock battery)
- once it gets below 20% it drains faster. Especially true for last 10%.
Maybe it'll get better over time. If someone found a way to properly calibrate this battery to show full potential, don't be shy, let us know.
http://batteryboss.org/
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I wish the battery capacity was the same as Samsung OEM battery. It seems much less than 5% lower capacity.
Since battery life and tracking is very important to me because it's the best indicator of whether things are working alright, I just bit the bullet and ordered the $30 OEM battery. I'll hold on to the hyperion batteries for travel and emergencies, but I'm leaving them out of my "rotation" (I like to avoid charging and just swap batteries every night).
Or if I'm going to play a CPU/GPU intensive game for 4-5 hours, I'll throw in the hyperion battery just to kill it
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I wish the battery capacity was the same as Samsung OEM battery. It seems much less than 5% lower capacity.
Since battery life and tracking is very important to me because it's the best indicator of whether things are working alright, I just bit the bullet and ordered the $30 OEM battery. I'll hold on to the hyperion batteries for travel and emergencies, but I'm leaving them out of my "rotation" (I like to avoid charging and just swap batteries every night).
Or if I'm going to play a CPU/GPU intensive game for 4-5 hours, I'll throw in the hyperion battery just to kill it
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As I told you before, battery life will improve after 5 full charges/discharges, unless you got bad batch. In that case you should exchange it for new ones.
I tested mine with Battery Monitor Widget Pro and 100% charge show 4188mV and 1% charge show 2940mV while stock battery goes down to 3022mV. So there is potential for Hyperion to last longer then stock but somehow it drains faster. If someone knows answer I would be glad to hear it. I would continue with calibration and testing and report back if there is any new findings. For now, they last 5-6% less then stock.
Anyway, first week of using Hyperion they lasted 20% less then stock so I bought same as yours stock battery with charger for $30 from Amazon. Stock is stock. LOL
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Oh my goodness! Massive improvement! I mean huge! I was so stupid. The key was in deleting Battery stats in Recovery before Rom boots.
Follow these steps;
1. Power off the phone
2. Replace battery with fully charged Hyperion battery
3. Boot into Recovery by holding volume+, volume- and Power button. Release all three buttons when Galaxy S2 logo shows 2nd time.
4. Go to advanced and delete battery stats
5. Go back and restart the phone
6. Enjoy much better battery life
I will do proper comparison with stock battery when I get some free time. If someone do it before me feel free to post results.
My guess is that battery life improved somewhere between 10-20%!
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So do you have to erase the battery stats for each battery? And how does that affect the stock batteries?
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So do you have to erase the battery stats for each battery? And how does that affect the stock batteries?
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I do. And every battery shows full potential including stock. It takes minute or two extra but reward is better battery life.
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alex72 said:
Oh my goodness! Massive improvement! I mean huge! I was so stupid. The key was in deleting Battery stats in Recovery before Rom boots.
Follow these steps;
1. Power off the phone
2. Replace battery with fully charged Hyperion battery
3. Boot into Recovery by holding volume+, volume- and Power button. Release all three buttons when Galaxy S2 logo shows 2nd time.
4. Go to advanced and delete battery stats
5. Go back and restart the phone
6. Enjoy much better battery life
I will do proper comparison with stock battery when I get some free time. If someone do it before me feel free to post results.
My guess is that battery life improved somewhere between 10-20%!
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I have got a pair of these coming my way for christmas... I'll try what you said if I do not get good battery life. Sounds good though!
Smoothface said:
I have got a pair of these coming my way for christmas... I'll try what you said if I do not get good battery life. Sounds good though!
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I think that wiping battery stats will help with any extended battery, not just Hyperion. And don't forget to properly calibrate batteries. Fully charge/discharge 5 times.
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Seems like a sweet deal, thanks for sharing.
Mine were just delivered and they do seem lighter than the stock battery. The charger is also nicer than the one I got the other day for a friends evo.
Thanks again for finding and sharing this good deal!
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Hey guys,
Bought one of these on ebay (only costed $9) now waiting for it to arrive. So i thought i might ask being a brand new battery what is the best way to get the most out of it? do i do a battery re calibration? I know this is useful on used batteries but unsure of a new one... Do i charge it first wipe the battery stat? or drain whatever power it comes with wipe battery stat?
I know this is a noob question to ask, but I'm learning and you guys here have been a great asset in helping me thus far.
Has anyone bought one of these off ebay? if so could you give me your experiences have or had with it?
Cheers.
i bought two off of ebay and have arrived about 2 days ago. I'm currently in the process of fully charging the battery - wiping the battery stats, rebooting and draining the battery til it doesn't turn on. Charging it up again etc etc. I'm not too sure if it's what you're meant to do but an 'ebay' battery is probably as good as if not better than an official SE battery.
I have a battery like that. Exactly the same as SE battery. Not better, not worse than the SE one.
Do you know where to get one?
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Do you know where to get one?
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GOLD-243...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item19ca5ae8f1
There u go my friend, I'm hoping this will pack a little more punch into the battery life, if it doesn't its only a $10 investment. will report once i have it and used it.
I have the 3300mah battery and I just charged, drained and recharged the batt and its amazing now
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kylec said:
I have the 3300mah battery and I just charged, drained and recharged the batt and its amazing now
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And where good sir did you find a 3300mah battery?
i just got a new momax 2700mah battery still fresh from the box and put it on my phone.. initial battery level shows 22% but then after a few moment it jumps to 62% and stop charging afterwards.. i check using battery monitor app and it shows i only got about 100ma of current even though im using an AC charger to charge..
what should i do now? im puzzled because i can't even know what is my current battery level??
Try to charge it for couple of hours
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Hello,
You need to let him charged during few hours and after calibrate your battery stats with "Battery calibration".
Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
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i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
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They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
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ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
Gorjess said:
ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
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No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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I didn't know the actual capacity for certain because I don't have the equipment to test that kind of thing, but my testing gave me around 10-15% more juice than the stock battery so I figured it was around 1800-1900.
Not exactly scientific, but after two weeks and a bunch of charge/discharge cycles, it was nowhere near the 3500mAh it was alleged to be, so I returned it. For me, I'd rather stick to a 2000mAh Samsung battery which was the same price as the genuine 2000mAh battery (~$40). I get fantastic battery life as it is, and 2000mAh is plenty for me. Plus I have the original 1600mAh which I store/keep charged @ 60/70% as a spare which I can charge to full quickly if I need it.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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