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What are your thoughts?
I'm not posting this in the Lumia forums because it's a bit one sided, but...
Will it make a difference to Nokias standing in the marketplace at the moment?
I mean they were the #1 leaders in the phone industry for a very long time... is it too late or do you think this may be what Nokia needs to get themselves ahead again?
Based on what i heard this phone should be the best in all nokia phones.
the hardware isnt that excellent compared to other phones in the market, but the modifications done on WP make it excellent.
i cant say if we should compare it to other nokia phones, since it's a new generation of phones (for nokia of course), but i think that many people will switch from symbian to WP, because of the features it offers.
Here in Italy Nokia is advertising this phone like hell. Personally i think that design wise this is one of the best if not the best looking phone in a couple years, and this may be enough to make some of the old time high end Symbian users switch back to Nokia. This phone will probably sell relatively well, but i can't see Nokia catching up again in the medium-low range market (not in a while at least): Android phones are cheaper and basically offer quite as much in terms of functionality. Anyway as an old time Nokia fan i see this as a promising beginning, and once that Nokia WP7 phones get mature enough (next year or so) i won't mind jumping ship. A few thing are becoming a little boring/annoying here on the Android platform, maybe after 2 years a bit of a change will be refreshing for me
Based on the review here in Singapore, it does have good design in the line of Nokia series.. Sensitive screens, etc.
But when you compare to say a SGS2 or IOS phone, you find the range of apps is pretty limited. Of course, we can sit down and Bang! You only use 50 apps at most. But you are talking about useful tools, utilities, messaging or rather communication related apps, production, education and most of all Games.
So as it stand, it is good, but put it together with other brands, it will lost badly.
Although it may catch on overseas...it has no chance in the United States.
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Although it may catch on overseas...it has no chance in the United States.
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Nokia has never been all that big in the states, yet it was still the daddy worldwide.
A stateside blessing is not a prerequisite for success. Moto is popular in the US, but dead as a doornail in Europe.
Horses for courses.
Hi all,
I ask this question now as I wait for a dev. of ICS for my phone to progress.
Before I bought my phone, I read a review saying that it was one Android version behind but to the reviewer, the version numbers are over-hyped and in reality the phone was great. I should say I bought the phone in August 2010 and it was released May/June that year.
Even reading this, being in this forum, we're a part of a very small per centage of people who understand anything that goes on here, or even the title of this thread. I don't mean that in a -we're brilliant- way, rather that most of us are a little tech-crazy. But do we take it too far? Does 4.0 make your mouth water but 2.1 bores you?
Are there some real benefits to the newer versions? Yes, sure. A few more features, sometimes faster UI, better battery times. I have heard of a few phones out there which had significant benefits and very popular new features e.g. tethering, some camera stuff etc. But beyond this? There is a LOT of gimmicks, crap people like to show off to their friends and all of that, which bored me beyond the age of 20. I got my first phone aged 11. I've been getting phones a few times a year almost every year since. One mega-problem I have with these 'smartphones' is that there have been largely missing basic features which were in the 'feature phones' before them. They've been selling us half-featured phones and dribbling back the rest on 'updates'.
I mean this in a philosophical way - not a critical one. I'm not questioning the validity of this forum (or I wouldn't be here ) and I hope that's clear. What do you all think?
Well?
your parents let you have a phone at 11? and then bought you more then one a year since? wow!
Now don't get the impression I'm desperately wealthy!!! My uncle worked in international business and gave me his old one. I remember even at 11 he mentioned things like 'it's not public yet but Ericsson and Sony are going to merge their mobile business' and I was already hooked on business. I bought I think every phone after that myself, no parents!
Every major release usually has an overall system performance improvement.
But other than that it seems to be a hyped up gimmick.
^^^^ That's precisesly what I've been coming to think. Who doesn't want slightly better memory management to improve battery, some features you use etc. but beyond that I'm afriad it's gimmick-central.
I have to add the psychological aspect of this and marketing particularly.
i agree since samsung swcred t-mobile with sidekick 4g with a subpar camera ,froyo , weak processor 1ghz(alot of lags), and no support , meanwhile 3 or 4 months later a bunch of phones comes with better specs at the 99 price range
Bought my phone with 2.1 installed. Used it like that for a week or so then updated to official 2.2. No difference at all.
Then came the 2.3.4. Everything is the same. Then 2.3.7. Same again.
I use my phone as a phone and a navigation device. So these updates do me no good. Release of Navigon for android was big news for me. I can't say the same thing for the 2.3.
Yeah that's pretty the same for me. The few updates I've had have at least speeded boot time and UI lag is less. It actually came with 1.6, upgraded to 2.1 and nothing since. There's a 2 year support for updates says Sony Ericsson, this was before the Google agreement. Like the guy above, an updated version of the phone was released 1 year later with incredible specs for much cheaper, but I paid a lot for it first time around.
I suppose people are used to upgrade their phones without really using them often.
Dear guys and girls. I'm looking a while for the opx to come out, now it's finaly here and i got an Invité but when i see the litlle reviews i hesitate so my question about it.
This one plus x , is this enough to beat the huawei p8lite or p8 because that are older phones but connectivity is very good. I seen a p8 lite and it's very snappy .
I live in belgium and use my phone not for heavy 3d games, just browsing fb INSTA Twitter and taking picture.
I now have a jiayu gs5 and it's really slow due to connectivity cus my meaning is that a smartphone these days is dependable on the internetspeed.
My Invité stills stand till 21.oou tonight. What should i take? Prices are all the same so that's not the issue.
Kind regards, Joeri
joeri1985 said:
Dear guys and girls. I'm looking a while for the opx to come out, now it's finaly here and i got an Invité but when i see the litlle reviews i hesitate so my question about it.
This one plus x , is this enough to beat the huawei p8lite or p8 because that are older phones but connectivity is very good. I seen a p8 lite and it's very snappy .
I live in belgium and use my phone not for heavy 3d games, just browsing fb INSTA Twitter and taking picture.
I now have a jiayu gs5 and it's really slow due to connectivity cus my meaning is that a smartphone these days is dependable on the internetspeed.
My Invité stills stand till 21.oou tonight. What should i take? Prices are all the same so that's not the issue.
Kind regards, Joeri
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The limited amount of reviews is because the phone just came out, so you won't have to worry about that.
In terms of connectivity, you should be more then fine. Espcially since you're mostly on FB and INSTA the phone should be more then enough for you!
Here you go: Someone did a speedtest, but I guess it also depends where he lives and the coverage where he lives:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/page-13#post-13917534
Someone from France made a review (same topic)
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/
Dsteppa said:
The limited amount of reviews is because the phone just came out, so you won't have to worry about that.
In terms of connectivity, you should be more then fine. Espcially since you're mostly on FB and INSTA the phone should be more then enough for you!
Here you go: Someone did a speedtest, but I guess it also depends where he lives and the coverage where he lives:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/page-13#post-13917534
Someone from France made a review (same topic)
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/
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Thx for the quick answer. I looked at the forum from the speedtest and he says 25mb/s download. I hope they have poorly internet where he lives because with my 2 year old jiayu i get around 50mb/ss. So now i'm more thinking for the p8. I honestley don't know. Probably it's a good phone but will this be in the end. If he doesn't match up i spend 250€ on something bit better than my jiayu.
Hi All
I bought a P20 Pro around October last year hoping I could make use of the 40MP camera for my latest hobby, microscope photography.
I really like Open Camera which works really well for the kind of thing I like to do. I've been very active on the Huawei forum at https://uk.community.huawei.com/ but have kind of given up trying to make the P20 Pro work in the way I want.
What I really wanted was 40MP RAW for 3rd Party apps and I've banged on for months now but got absolutely nowhere. During that time, I think I've got a bit of a feel for Huawei as a company.
If you have a suggestion, they say nice things like "hopefully it will be included in a future release". But there is no further feedback about any issue. I get the feel that what they want to do is innovate a new phone every 6 months but do no support.
If you check out the customer service reviews at TrustPilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.huawei.com
You can see their rating is only 1 star with users saying they left 1 star 'cos you can leave 0 stars!
A few months ago they stopped offering bootloader unlock to "protect us". Well, don't you just love it when someone takes something away from you and tells you it's for your own good? Reminds me of being a child!
Do you know what OS I use on my computer? Well, any one I fancy! It's my hardware!
The above is all a pity because the hardware is excellent, but the software included not much so. For example, jpegs are over sharpened and there's no option to adjust this feature or turn it off.
The phone only allows RAW for it's own stock app. There's no feature in the stock app to save anywhere apart from Internal memory. I want to use the camera software on my LCD monitor, but through HDMI, the stock camera app doesn't rotate, so the image on the LCD is always portrait! I can fix this with Open Camera but there's no support for RAW which I need for heavy post processing.
This all might sound quite negative but I've enjoyed participating in the Forum and the nice administrators sent me a Joby tripod to review (which I kept) and a 10,000mah power bank to say thanks. The forum admins are very nice, but the one thing that does stick in my craw a little bit is to keep being chivvied along saying an update would be soon, but after a few months of hearing the same thing, you know it ain't never going to happen.
If they told me 3 months ago they have no intention of fixing the issues, I would have sold the P20 Pro and got something else, so a bit of a waste of time.
But any road up..... I spotted the Mi9 with a luvverly 48MP camera and started to read the specs and ask questions on this forum. It sounded quite good and I was in Spain last week so I bought one.
I'm still learning, but am astounded that the phone is so cheap and in many ways, better than any Huawei phone, even the P30 Pro particularly with benchmarks. The battery in the P20 Pro is 4000mah and the Mi9 only 3300mah so which is better? Well, according to gsmarena, the Mi9 lasts longer as the Huawei Kirin chipset runs so hot. Maybe the P20 Pro is better if you fancy a fried egg?
But the real game changer for me is, of course the ability to unlock the bootloader and then the availability of ROMs. I'm still learning, but Xiaomi seem to like feedback and are offering weekly dev builds. In the 4 months I've owned the P20 Pro, there have been a couple of security updates and a Pie update, but none of the features anyone has asked for. My latest update was the Feb. 1st security update which I got in March. Now it's almost April...
By contrast, Xiaomi release the source code of their ROMs on day 1 so developers love them! If you check out the activity on the P20 Pro XDA forum, it's much lower than the Mi9.
So as I say, it's all a bit new for me, but I have high hopes of getting a phone that does exactly what I want. Somewhere between the developers and Xiaomi lies the features I'm looking for.
All in all, a good move for me. I'll likely be putting my P20 Pro on eBay soon. Unlocked an rooted lol.
Sorry to drivel on.....
Cheers
Steve
The lack of activity on the P20 forum is more than obvious, nobody at XDA likes Huawei for what they did, and probably never will.
Yes it's a bit of a ghost town!
It did make me think that Huawei simply wanted to clear the developers out of their market but even the hardware support for ordinary users under warranty is appalling with customers being told their phone has water damage (on an IP67 rated phone!) and the customers saying it had never been near water. Phones coming back still broken and on and on.
I think despite their reputation for innovation, the lack of support will kill them in the future.
Well, roll on Wednesday for unlocky flashy flashy!
Keep Smilin'
Steve
Haha, Steve. You seem to be the cheerful one, I hope your happiness and cheerfulness stay with you. Just don't join any telegram groups and you'll be fine.
Yes better than yesterday lol
Why shouldn't I join a telegram group?
Hey Guys,
So I have a question is anyone in the community porting stock lg android 10 software to the V30 at all, it would actually be quite cool to see and use as I think their android 10 rom actually looks cool.
Thanks all
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Hey Guys,
So I have a question is anyone in the community porting stock lg android 10 software to the V30 at all, it would actually be quite cool to see and use as I think their android 10 rom actually looks cool.
Thanks all
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New g android 10 is very cool now. Their new UX 9.1 is very similar to the Samsung's one ui. I wish someone could do it. But i think if someone have to work hard on LG stock android, i might say make a port of oxygen os 10. I really like that software. It's very fast. I've used it.
exactly
I wish stock android 10 for v30
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I wish stock android 10 for v30
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Wish all you want. I don't know anyone who could do it or will do it.
LG will decide late next year if they're going to do it. Probably not.
Not even all LG V30 have Pie yet.
You should be wanting better versions of Pie before asking for a completely new OS that would be crappy. Look how bad the first EU H930 Pie was. LG wouldn't even release it. First EU H930 Pie was 30b. 30a failed testing. Even H930 30b was HORRIBLE. Only with the third one -- which for unknown reasons they call 30q -- did it get stable.
Also, first US998 Pie KDZ is not great.
So, Android 10 would be a nightmare...
Agreed, I don't understand this obsession with having the latest OS. Unlike crapple-phones, we don't need a specific OS to get features added - those are being done through apps. I don't see any feature in Pie that I need today, so I'm still running Oreo.
Updated OS made a difference back in the ICS days, because things were still new, and certain apps needed OS-level features to work. But I'm not seeing that today, nor am I seeing any new features to be clamoring for?
In fact, my work phone has Pie and it's annoying because they changed the visuals to be "more like Apple". I don't need that crap... I wish they'd stop wasting their time making it look like a crappy iPhone. I bought an Android exactly because it's not an iPhone - why would I want it to look like one!? /rant
Of course, these are my opinions... so if you want to wish, keep on wishing...
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Or Pixel/Nexus/ Oxygen OS.
Can't just AndroidFanboi and call out Apple while some Android OEM's are just as guilty.
Also I would rather own an Apple device over a Pixel any day. Also own an iPhone and the OS is much Superior to any Android OEM right now. I'm a huge Android fanboi but I go for facts over feelings.
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Or Pixel/Nexus/ Oxygen OS.
Can't just AndroidFanboi and call out Apple while some Android OEM's are just as guilty.
Also I would rather own an Apple device over a Pixel any day. Also own an iPhone and the OS is much Superior to any Android OEM right now. I'm a huge Android fanboi but I go for facts over feelings.
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I'm not out to start a flame war, to each his/her own. I find iOS to bey VERY limiting and inferior. Some of my colleagues use them at work, and they just don't work well for them. Unfortunately, they're handcuffed to the iOS platform, so they don't want to change - although some are working on doing that anyway. I've had many iPhone fans complain about the many issues with using those devices for work, so it's not just me.
Fact is, both platforms are pretty comparable but Android is far more flexible and allows for much more choice, even when just doing simple tasks. I find this to be true for MacOS as well - I had a computer company where I did service for all PCs, and so many customers had to run Parallels to do basic things, because there is no way to do it in Apple-land. One example - a customer wanted to print contacts so they could include it in their binder. Long story short, Apple just couldn't do it - their own pages said so. This is the kind of stuff that annoys me... there's no logical reason for this.
Again, not trying to sway you or anyone else. I am just speaking of my facts and use-cases, as well as the stories of countless people around me, so it's not just me.
I also agree that some platforms do a terrible job with updates... no argument there. Unfortunately, in today's world of software, everyone "expects" to require updates even on day 1 of a release. It's crazy and dumb, but just what we deal with today. Hell, a Vizio TV I just purchased for work needed multiple updates upon powerup... really?! Silly, but that's the world we live in.
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I'm not out to start a flame war, to each his/her own. I find iOS to bey VERY limiting and inferior.
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Agreed.
I rescued one sister from iPhone. The other is too far gone.
What I hate is the apparent Apple lovers working for the Android team. After pioneering Qi wireless charging in 2012, they dropped it a couple of years later -- apparently since iPhone didn't have it, so Google iPhone acolytes thought it wasn't important. (But LG and Samsung kept it.) Then Google added back Qi wireless because Apple FINALLY added it to iPhone (5 YEARS after Google first had it on Nexus phones). Google should never have dropped it in the first place. They just look like an abject follower instead of the Leader they used to be.
Apple dropped headset jack. Google made fun of them, then did the same the next year.
Apple iPhone has clock on left side -- where Android NOTIFICATIONS go. Starting in Apple Pie, now the Android clock is on the left side where ONLY NOTIFICATIONS should go. (Luckily, LG resisted for V30 Pie.)
I'm surprised Google hasn't lowered Pixel XL 1440p resolution to match Apple's crappy iPhone's.
Argghhh. I hate Apple with such a passion. They are so full of bull. They CLAIMED they dropped the headset jack to have higher dust/water resistance. Their next iPhone had IP67. BUT both LG and Samsung KEPT headset jack and produced flagship phones with IP68! So, apparently Apple's engineers are either incompetent or Apple LIES through their teeth... Actually both statements are probably true.
I still vividly remember the iPhone 4 "antenna-gate" fiasco where they didn't even insulate the external metal antennas... Then Steve Jobs lied about it. Total incompetence. U.S. FTC (or some governing body) made them give everyone a free bumper case for the insulation the metal antennas should have had. Apple wouldn't apologize or admit fault whatsoever. Just tried to deflect and lie. Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong!"
During the investigation, Apple also had to admit they were falsely showing more bars in their status bar. Apple first tried to say it was inadvertent mistake, but also said they did it to make people "feel better", that people never want to see just one bar. (No, it's called LYING, so people think iPhone is better than Android.) So they had to push an iOS update to show the REAL, lower signal strength.
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I remember years ago with my sister, she needed critical pictures off her phone and you couldn't just plug it into a PC with USB cable and use it as flash drive, and drag and drop the pictures from something like the DCIM folder with Android. You couldn't simply get them off the iPhone with their USB cable whatsoever. You had to go through their iTunes at the time or whatever. Install that on the PC, upload and download the pictures (or something like that). So aggravating. I finally managed to get her pictures, but would have only taken 5 minutes on Android with direct USB connection vs couple of hours on iPhone.
I remember mentally cursing Apple over and over and over. I rescued an older woman friend of a friend from iPhone about 5 years ago and went through much of the same at that time too. It was just the MOST difficult OS to wrestle with.
Even without root, Android still gives you so much more control over your phone than iOS. That's why I don't understand people who say, "Well, if I can't root this (fill in the blank), I'll just go get an iPhone".
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OnePlus is the other company I hate, because they openly admit they're trying to emulate Apple. They're arrogant and lie also (just like Apple) -- with their weak excuses for no IP rating or Qi wireless charging. At least OnePlus finally went to 1440p FIVE YEARS after all the top tier OEMs did (2014). Apple still hasn't gone to 1440p -- but they're not claiming to be premium Android OEM with "Never Settle" motto.
I still remember when OnePlus shipped their phone one year without NFC and thought no one would notice. When asked about it (and they didn't mention the omission until then) their excuse was the type of people who bought OnePlus didn't even know what NFC is, so they wouldn't miss it. (I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically what they said.) Very patronizing "We know better than you" -- just like Apple.
@schwinn8 @ChazzMatt
Not looking to flamewar anything. Just a discussion. I'm a lover of ALL tech honestly. Both IOS and Android has flaws.
IOS and "vanilla" Android needs updates due to lack of features. Reason I say iOS is better is due to the fact it's optimized much better. Battery life is noticeably better. At least in my use case scenarios. Seems more "fluid".
I've never thought updates are mandatory. You pay for the OS you get at purchase. Bug fixes are mandatory. Any update other then bug fixes are a bonus.
Edit, I noticed updates on my Nvidia shield console killed performance.
I was a user of PC since W95. If you wanted to upgrade you had to pay. To me that seems more than fair. Every OEM has to pay a dev team to do updates on a device that's no longer generating any money for them. So when you need a device, they add so many features to it that updates are pointless.
If Microsoft was in the picture, Microsoft would be beating apple and the Android.
Also when Steve Jobs died, Apple did drop off in quality. That's just a sad reality. Steve Jobs was really anal about his products. He was a terrible person and this is true, on the other hand he was really intelligent and made Apple the company that it is. Have to give him credit for that.
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Agreed.
I rescued one sister from iPhone. The other is too far gone.
What I hate is the apparent Apple lovers working for the Android team. After pioneering Qi wireless charging in 2012, they dropped it a couple of years later -- apparently since iPhone didn't have it, so Google iPhone acolytes thought it wasn't important. (But LG and Samsung kept it.) Then Google added back Qi wireless because Apple FINALLY added it to iPhone (5 YEARS after Google first had it on Nexus phones). Google should never have dropped it in the first place. They just look like an abject follower instead of the Leader they used to be.
Apple dropped headset jack. Google made fun of them, then did the same the next year.
Apple iPhone has clock on left side -- where Android NOTIFICATIONS go. Starting in Apple Pie, now the Android clock is on the left side where ONLY NOTIFICATIONS should go. (Luckily, LG resisted for V30 Pie.)
I'm surprised Google hasn't lowered Pixel XL 1440p resolution to match Apple's crappy iPhone's.
Argghhh. I hate Apple with such a passion. They are so full of bull. They CLAIMED they dropped the headset jack to have higher dust/water resistance. Their next iPhone had IP67. BUT both LG and Samsung KEPT headset jack and produced flagship phones with IP68! So, apparently Apple's engineers are either incompetent or Apple LIES through their teeth... Actually both statements are probably true.
I still vividly remember the iPhone 4 "antenna-gate" fiasco where they didn't even insulate the external metal antennas... Then Steve Jobs lied about it. Total incompetence. U.S. FTC (or some governing body) made them give everyone a free bumper case for the insulation the metal antennas should have had. Apple wouldn't apologize or admit fault whatsoever. Just tried to deflect and lie. Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong!"
During the investigation, Apple also had to admit they were falsely showing more bars in their status bar. Apple first tried to say it was inadvertent mistake, but also said they did it to make people "feel better", that people never want to see just one bar. (No, it's called LYING, so people think iPhone is better than Android.) So they had to push an iOS update to show the REAL, lower signal strength.
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I remember years ago with my sister, she needed critical pictures off her phone and you couldn't just plug it into a PC with USB cable and use it as flash drive, and drag and drop the pictures from something like the DCIM folder with Android. You couldn't simply get them off the iPhone with their USB cable whatsoever. You had to go through their iTunes at the time or whatever. Install that on the PC, upload and download the pictures (or something like that). So aggravating. I finally managed to get her pictures, but would have only taken 5 minutes on Android with direct USB connection vs couple of hours on iPhone.
I remember mentally cursing Apple over and over and over. I rescued an older woman friend of a friend from iPhone about 5 years ago and went through much of the same at that time too. It was just the MOST difficult OS to wrestle with.
Even without root, Android still gives you so much more control over your phone than iOS. That's why I don't understand people who say, "Well, if I can't root this (fill in the blank), I'll just go get an iPhone".
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OnePlus is the other company I hate, because they openly admit they're trying to emulate Apple. They're arrogant and lie also (just like Apple) -- with their weak excuses for no IP rating or Qi wireless charging. At least OnePlus finally went to 1440p FIVE YEARS after all the top tier OEMs did (2014). Apple still hasn't gone to 1440p -- but they're not claiming to be premium Android OEM with "Never Settle" motto.
I still remember when OnePlus shipped their phone one year without NFC and thought no one would notice. When asked about it (and they didn't mention the omission until then) their excuse was the type of people who bought OnePlus didn't even know what NFC is, so they wouldn't miss it. (I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically what they said.) Very patronizing "We know better than you" -- just like Apple.
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Agree with much of what you said about Apple but you forgot to mention the holier-than-thou feeling iPhone users get using iMessage talking down to us Android users in our green rather than blue bubbles.
Speaking of OnePlus, you know TotallyAnxious moved on from the V30 to OnePlus 7 Pro (which actually looks like a very worthy upgrade and *is* rootable on Verizon)? So we're on our own to tweak Pie to make it as good as Oreo with her mod...
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Agree with much of what you said about Apple but you forgot to mention the holier-than-thou feeling iPhone users get using iMessage talking down to us Android users in our green rather than blue bubbles.
Speaking of OnePlus, you know TotallyAnxious moved on from the V30 to OnePlus 7 Pro (which actually looks like a very worthy upgrade and *is* rootable on Verizon)? So we're on our own to tweak Pie to make it as good as Oreo with her mod...
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Agreed.
By the way, dev @runningnak3d who rooted the T-Mobile H932 went to OnePlus 7 Pro and almost immediately came back. Said it was crap compared to V30. That a lot of the claims OnePlus makes is bluster:
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So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
-- Brian
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It's probably better than mid-tier Androids, and that's why their market originally was. Give users a mid-tier Andolroid on steroids and make them think it's as good as top tier Android?
That's why no 1440p for years, still no Qi wireless charging, no IP68, no NFC one entire model year -- because if you're upgrading from some Vivo or something you don't know what top tier really means. It's not just chipset. It's also other premium specs and features.
I'm not saying they haven't improved somewhat from their early model which were laughable -- but I still won't buy their phones. The OnePlus fanbois are almost as bad as iPhone.
@BROKEN1981
It's easy to provide battery life when you run what's basically a single-threaded OS. iOS was (originally) designed this way, and it does have it's advantages, as you noted some of them. However, as you may have noticed, battery life took a serious hit when they finally activated some background-tasking capability (iOS still doesn't do full multitasking, as Apple prevents this from happening). This is also what makes the screen "feel" smoother... iOS prioritized screen updates over everything else. One example I had seen showed an Android scrolling on a webpage versus iOS... the latter showed updates as you scrolled, while Android didn't update the screen until it was released (this was an older version of both, so things may have changed since then).
In the end, these are decisions made by Apple. To each their own, but I prefer to have true multitasking. So many things happen automatically (like background uploads on GPhotos) which can't happen on iOS (well, at least Apple doesn't let it today). I shouldn't have to be on the app in order to have it do things... that's the power of Android (and every other OS, honestly).
As for battery live, my V30 runs for 2 days without a charge and with frequent usage... I don't know of any iPhone that does that (maybe the new large-bodied ones do this, since they have bigger batteries)... but comparing apples-to-apples (haha), iPhone battery life has been terrible recently, as many of my friends and coworkers have shown me on their iPhones.
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To be fair, 1+ had only 1 good device. 1+1 LoL
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schwinn8 said:
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Yeah, getting photos to save to the cloud is obnoxious. Always wondered why I had to do it manually. Now I know....that's lame.
And it's only single-threaded tasks? Then why a powerful CPU if it's not being fully utilized? That honestly makes no sense. With that chip they should have added great multitasking.
I guess due to gimping out on stuff, no reason the battery life is good.
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Is there any possibility to make ux 9.1 port in the future