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If you were to choose, which would you upgrade to from the L9. I am upgrading on the 30th of april and I have been going back and forth between the two phones and it's driving me crazy!!
Adonisd said:
If you were to choose, which would you upgrade to from the L9. I am upgrading on the 30th of april and I have been going back and forth between the two phones and it's driving me crazy!!
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I did upgrade to the N5 and gave my wife my L9 lol, Although she's somewhat content with it.
I too was looking at the HTC One line and a couple other phones. I ended up with the N5 be cause it's pure vanilla, a developers phone, Long life of support/updates and It took at the most 5 mins to bootloader unlock, root and flash TWRP. There's so much going on in the N5 thread that its almost impossible to keep up with everything and it literally makes the L9 thread look like a ghost town. There's every ROM and kernel that you could want too. I stayed completely stock on it, except for unlocking the bootloader, rooting and recovery for like a month and then I couldn't resist anymore and had to flash a custom ROM and kernel just the other day.
I've been nothing but impressed with this phone... It's lightning fast and has an awesome screen. Love it!
I know it can be a hard decision but ultimately it's your choice, I recommend researching and comparing them and then deciding what's the best fit for you.
That's my problem. I think I have researched so much. Especially camera wise. Ultrapixel versus mega. Pictures are respectable from both models. The HTC one is out and there aren't that many changes over the old model. Which leads me to believe that the support for the one(m7) will continue. I mean its still a quad core phone. The n5 has a dedicated 18month loyalty agreement from Google so there's that too. User experience..... Blink feed and bloat or pure vanilla.......
I am also hesitant to purchase anything else made by LG....
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This is my first nexus device and the pure vanilla experience is nice. The N5 camera does take pretty good pics for a 8 mp and with the HDDR turned on it's even better.
I definitely hear what your saying about LG, I said the exact same thing especially after my last 2 phones, the L9 and LG Motion... LG just loves to lock down their phone's. At least the motion has Loki. Even though LG co-created the N5, there's no evidence of LG's dirty work at hand here. HTC does make some solid phones though and I've owned 2, the HD7 and the almighty HD2. Both were great phones... I still have the HD7. The one thing that kept me away from HTC was the fact that I'm not a huge fan of HTC sense.
We should probably request to move this thread to the Q&A section too.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/903550
It starts as a minor foodfight but ends up providing some interesting info. A poster named "momma23dogs" said Sony has completely pulled out of the U.S. market and apparently has stopped development on all phones currently released in said market. They also stated that Verizon considers the last update Sony provided them as buggy and shelved it.
Another poster named "Tidbits", claiming to be a former Sony firmware writer with contacts on the inside essentially confirms the buggy update story and blames Sony entirely. Further into the thread there is an interesting conversation about the relationship between manufacturer's and carriers. It was news to me anyway...
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Interesting read, this closely matches the story that a manager of a corporate Verizon store told the dev, which he told me a few months back. Verizon and Sony are at odds with each other because of the noncompliance going on with the updates.
There will be NO Android 5.1.1 or 6.0 on Z3v ? Sad
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I believe the Z3v is a "dead" phone in the sense it has seen it's best days. It is probably well past the pinnacle of it's xda life. Sony and Verizon have abandoned it. The next wave of new and more powerful phones are upon us and everyone is beginning to move on. This is similar to my old Galaxy Nexus. It was the darling of the development crowd until new phones started being released and the Devs began to focus on them. Development dried up almost overnight, except for a couple of diehards who actually liked the phone.
This is just the normal life span of a smartphone today. We can blame the way carriers have trained us to want a new phone every two years. The companies and carriers don't want to spend money or effort on something that has already been sold, they would rather get us to buy something new and to that end they churn out better and better phones. That is, unfortunately the nature of the business.
After 18 months to 2 years the batteries are beginning to fail. Now most are sealed in the unit forcing the user to take the phone apart or take it to a store so they can take it apart to put in a most likely two year old replacement battery because both phones and batteries are generally manufactured in one or two productions runs and that is it...then everyone begins tooling up to make the latest and greatest next generation of phones.
...it is a shame really, I like the Z3v.
I like the z3V too, and just bought a second one for my drawer for when my first one kicks it.
I have come to realize how technology is metered out for consumerism. But I refuse to succumb to their rules on needing to keep updated. That's the Crapple approach to business, and I don't like it. Google is following Crapple. I see something I like and I stick with it until I am ready to move on.
I'm almost convinced about moving on back to the Galaxy because of the newly announced S7. 3000+ mah, expandable storage, and water resistance in a fully supported phone. Plus it has wireless charging and a great camera.
What's holding me back? I truly desire the Xperia UI and the Sony brand that supports its ecosystem. I have the PlayStation consoles that are interconnected with my devices, Bluetooth accessories that are fully compatible with the Sony Mobile device because they are accessories from Sony, and the fine craftsmanship that I know of a hardware that's built to last. I'm not ready to give up on my phone, but just to complain to complain, it is irritating how outdated my camera is when compared to the latest and greatest, and I feel like SD801 can only do so much now to keep up with more and more of the newest softwares that's coming out nearly on a daily basis.
When I saw one of the older Xperia phones I liked the looks, I said if the Red Check Mark ever got one I would get it, who would have known it would turn out like this? I will tell you how to save yourself from making a wrong decision next time, if I choose a phone don't get it I am batting 1000 right now on picking stepchild phones. lol
Except for the camera overheating and the USB door failure (of course locked bootloader) it is a great phone. Far less restarts (almost zero) than the old phones, well except the Moto Droid 1 (only got a restart if overclocked to far) that I used Bugless Beast ROM on.
Nothing out, floats my boat, a Kickstarter (Nexbit Robin) phone had my eye but after the first reviews don't think it would be much better than what the Xperia is now.
Forgot to add any new phone has to have MHL 2.0 or higher (which it seems Sony is the only one sticking with that), gotten addicted to watching streaming video content over the TV, yes I know Miracast, and DNLA will do the same, which SOny has all three.
Ahhhh. Moto's original Droid... Those were the days. Rummaged through some of my old hard drives and found all the old stuff I used to load up; Chevy's overclocking kernels, Ultimate Droid releases. Still have 4 of those phones, 2 in NIB condition.
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Ahhhh. Moto's original Droid... Those were the days. Rummaged through some of my old hard drives and found all the old stuff I used to load up; Chevy's overclocking kernels, Ultimate Droid releases. Still have 4 of those phones, 2 in NIB condition.
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Geeeez, think my OG Droid still has CM7 w/ a ChevyNo1 kernel on it. Haven't booted it in a while, was using it with the dock as a desk clock for the longest time
The Z3v would be a killer phone with an unlocked bootloader. My old Galaxy Nexus spoiled me with it's accessibility with ROMs, kernels and the such. I picked the Z3v based on Sony's take on Android and it's amazing battery life. As long as it is rooted I can live with it but the lack of updating to the latest ROM is a little frustrating.
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Geeeez, think my OG Droid still has CM7 w/ a ChevyNo1 kernel on it. Haven't booted it in a while, was using it with the dock as a desk clock for the longest time
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Mine has Bugles Beast with P3Droid 1.2ghz low voltage kernel, was beta testing one of the first Bugless Beast ROMs when I discovered the Dalvik cache 3 time wipe before flashing new ROM concept which I shared with the then new community.
Used it when the Z3v wouldn't work this summer for video, Z3v camera would shut down after 4 minutes of recording the Droid would record all day no problem.
Unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs is what Android is all about.
Linux support the free.
I used Bugless Beast back when Peter Alfonso was coding ROMs for the GNex. He's pretty good, it lived up to it's name for sure.
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I used Bugless Beast back when Peter Alfonso was coding ROMs for the GNex. He's pretty good, it lived up to it's name for sure.
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Yeah he (Peter) was good at the Java coding, what ever happened to him, did he get a job with Motorola? Lost track of him once I left the Droid.
In the last post he made on the GNex forums he said he got a job, I'm not sure who with, and he was writing code for them. That is why he stopped working on the GNex ROM. Things just got too busy and something had to give.
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In the last post he made on the GNex forums he said he got a job, I'm not sure who with, and he was writing code for them. That is why he stopped working on the GNex ROM. Things just got too busy and something had to give.
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He was going to help me out on learning ROM development, I had the SDK environment all setup and working, played around with it for a few weeks and was going to start getting into it heavy, then the frigging computer I had it set up on crapped out, the HD went south, lost all the data could not retrieve anything, shortly after that I had and accident and just never got back into it, at the time I had 4 Coms up and running now I just have a laptop and lost desire to do anything again.
I know he told me he was getting a job and was going to stop.
Well the Z3 and Z2 are getting Marshmallow now, sucks. Advanced Calling 2.0 with WiFi calling would be nice too.
This is the first device that I've owned the has taken so long with not much sign or interest on the custom development side of things, not even much chatter about it.
Why is there such a lack of interest in the G5? Is it more complicated than other devices or have LG not released the source or something (I'm no developer at all, just a severe flashaholic and am having severe withdrawals since buying this device. Not a single ROM flashed in months lol).
Thanks guys
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Beacuse LG locked all the bootloaders except h850 which is only for some parts of Europe ..Hope that lg will change their minds about this
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The H850 is not the only one with unlocked bootloader. H830 also has unlocked bootloader. Also, i wouldnt go making a lot of demands since moderators are watching. And "Beggers " get the worst out of them (with reason) (just suggesting). Also, since Im not a developer (yet), I decided to hold back and not buy the phone until there is at least 2 builds released. (if another phone dont catch my eye first, which it has already happened, S**t lol) but yeah, also patience is something you will have to endure. There is currently a handful of devs working on CM during their free time. As for now, people will have to use the "Fluence HD" patch if they want to flash something to mod their phones. In addition to that, there are some other developers that claims they have started to built their own roms and are currently testing them in their phones. But there are some files they still missing to compile. ( i have to find the post for each one again)
In conclusion.... yeah, you will definitely have to wait, and begging/requesting/or anything you do with the purpose to make it go faster won't help at all. After all, Developers also have a life, and they are doing this with their free time.
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Roshi69 said:
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Very well. This are the links i have been looking for:
Comment by "Nathan Chance (in addition read post 1 and 2 posted in the same comment) ": http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page18
Comment by "greysonofusa" (claiming that he is building a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
Comment by "1619415" (claiming that he want to build his own rom but he need some files yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
I think i saw a couple of others in another threads but you get the ideas. Its not that there is not interest on building roms for the G5, but that there are missing things to copile. But it is better that they take their time building a rom than to release a heavily buggy/unstable rom that might hard brick your device for good. At least that's what i think. (even though i dont currently own the G5 lol)
yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the galaxy s7. And hell, why not htc 10 too lol. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the HTC 10. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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There cannot be a battle between opinions because in the end everybody will choose their own sides. All that i have said is based on experiences, and base of what i have read too, not only in XDA but digging around google which means thousands and thousands of different post on different websites, in addition to video in youtube, and more. So, let me skip the whole stuff to the last part of your last post, Aesthetics is not more important than functionality to me, which is why i'm strongly siding to Moto Z Force more than S7, HTC 10, LG G5 or even the Oneplus 3 (which have proven to be a good phone with some minor exceptions). After all, I always put a cover on my phone anyways, so, the so called "premium quality feeling" that people often are looking for, to me is useless since i use a cover. I use a phone to call, to use its functionality, not to rub its body against my skin to see how nice it feels every 5 seconds/minutes/hours in a given day. But i also like phones which try to be as limitless as possible. Which significantly reduces my list... Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
It will probably be a while yet before we get any usable CM roms, customised stock is great so far. We should get some soon though as I believe some devs like Xpirt are getting the device
Making a rom is not as easy as you might think . But otherwise, the phone is really good and the Stock Rom is perfect. Would like to root without unlocking the bootloader but you can not have everything
Well, i as Dev and ROM Cooker have to say that I'm really sad about the fact that there's almost no Development on the G5.
We have almost all needed source to compile a booting CM13 Build, but no one is creating a Thread for Public Testing. In my Eyes that would help alot...
Custom ROMs based on Stock are another Story. It looks like that no one is able to get a working Updater Script/Meta-inf.
Shouldn't be that hard for a skilled LG Device Dev to make one. But where are all the G2/3/4 Owners? Are they still on a old G Device? No interests on a G5? I dont know! But it's a really sad Story ...
I've found so much nice stuff in the H850 Firmware but some things need to be fixed and I've no clue how. So I can just hope that there comes soon some Development on this Device, which means more Developers and more success with creating ROMs and Modifications.
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development...
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Miustone said:
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development.
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Same here. But right now I like the device with your Fluence HD and the Aosp mod. It runs very well!
Of course I am eagerly waiting for Alucard's kernel (loved his SGS4 kernels!) and AOSP or cm.
But patience is a virtue and I can wait.
Also, as the price of the g5 is dropping I hope that more developers get on board.
I would gladly contribute. Unfortunately, I'm on vzw.
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Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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Youtube is barely another small percentage of internet's population. Doing that would mean only to stick in one side out of millions. And arguing as in "argument " is exactly whwt we do on XDA. It doesnt necessary has to be bad argument. However, an argument is only worth it if you can feel that you have a chance to persuade or proof your point. But neither of us can do. To start looking for all thr comments, post, videos, blogs, etc..... It would be a suicide to do that. That, and that brains can only retain so much before it throws the information to a deeper part of the brain.
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
Thanks For Reading :good:
This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though. We do need a dev who can work on Lineage. I'm actually fine with the stock ROM for now.
I Guess You Did Not Know..
AidenSurvival said:
This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though.
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I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
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I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
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You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
Really?
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You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
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I Sorry You Were Not Informed Of My Past Purchases....
But... Let me direct your attention to the attached picture below...
You See.... I HAVE HAD T-MOBILE POSTPAID... again, sorry no one informed you of that BEFORE you presumed to know my past.
And... Please.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but I do believe the specifications of the T-Mobile variant and the MetroPCS variant are EXACTLY the same.. again I may be off a spec or two..
Bottom line is.. basically the same device.. Using The Same Towers and one cost $225.00 and the other $49.99.
Frankly, I don't care if my bill is paid 30 days prior of 40 days post...... as long as it's paid.
So.. I'll just keep my MetroPCS variant and use the $170.00 or so savings on other things.
Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
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GraphMatix said:
Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
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Hello.. And Welcome To The Party..
Unfortunately, there is no "Stock Factory Firmware" ( a.k.a. KDZ in LG lingo..) I just called LG on this matter yesterday.. and inquired out of curiosity as to when it might be released.. No E.T.A. whatsoever.
Just for kicks.. I inquired about the security patch still being of the April variety.. again, no answer as to when that will be updated as well..
But when it comes to the security patch.. it really does not matter when you unlock your boot loader.. that action alone Opens The Door... to Malware and any other violation you can think of when it comes to Jacking You Up.
That's why companies frown upon having a boot loader with the ability to be unlocked.. they don't want you coming back to them crying with a compromised or bricked device.
Personally, I like the way Motorola / Lenovo does it... and if I ran a company it's certainly the way that I would do it.. Keep it stock, and we have you covered.. or, wave your warranty and they give you the code to unlock your boot loader.. Then You Are On Your Own.. and they have a record of you ASKING to wave your warranty.. and that gives them the right to Refuse fixing your goof ups.
I understand we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10 and now every variant of it has been rooted has TWRP and all firmwares are available.
What about using something like LG up or uppercut to extract the firmware from my stock LG Stylo 3 plus?
I don't have the time two develop, or full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it. Resurrection and lineage are released for Stylo 2. Also there are already released for the LG K-10 not sure what variant you're using I use MetroPCS so mine would be the ms428.
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory but my goal is to use my 128 GB SDXC card. I can partition some of it to be adaptable another partition to be storage (FAT32) and two other partitions for link2sd and Swapper (EXT4) and lastly swap.
Stylo 3+ Not For You ?
GraphMatix said:
we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10
I don't have full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it..
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory.
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LG will release the firmware at some point... Actually, the stock firmware runs just fine.. I have not seen any glitches.. even when I had 100% of LG's setup installed. I'm down to about 30% factory and 70% personal and I'm getting 12+ hours of S.O.T. ( I posted some pics in another thread ) I don't think LG is in a rush.. there is nothing terribly wrong.. "If It Ain't Broke...."
If it's a bunch of ROM's you are looking for... you picked the wrong phone. by the time there is a choice of ROM's there will be a whole new choice of phones to choose from..
The Moto G5s Plus comes to mind.. if you look at the INCREDIBLE support the G5 Plus has ( I owned one but the 5.2 inch screen was just a little too small for me ) Just wait until the G5s Plus with it's 5000 maH battery and 5.5 inch screen and $129.00 price has a few months under it's belt.. it will be "The" bang for the buck device to own if you enjoy Root & ROM's..
Guys is this device has a front flash ?
techboy11 said:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking mate? I don't believe this phone has a front flash for the camera, but I just got mine yesterday so I haven't tried it yet.
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So, let me start off by saying, I'm a hobbyist developer myself. Haven't posted a lot (if at all, to my closest friends) things that I've done for the many Android phones I've owned in the past. I just happen to grab this interesting device yesterday in Canada. Looking at this thread in particular, I don't believe this would be a form of motivation for me to start developing anything for this phone publicly, whether it be for the requested Metro PCS "cheaper" model, or what have you.
The OP seems to suggest that most developers can't afford phones, which I personally find offensive, as I work my butt off to go through as many phones as I do/have. Sure, I've seen a few, which I find them to be genuine and supportive of their work, I've never minded supporting.
This thread also feels like most "ETA??" threads that I've seen for even more popular phones I've had, such as my beloved recent Nexus 6P.
All in all, this is just my two cents. I'll keep following and lurking around to see if someone decides to work out something for the Stylo. I've never owned the Stylo variant of LG phones before, and so far I love it as just stock, which is a very new (and good) feeling for me.
~Cheers
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Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
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Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
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Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
techboy11 said:
Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
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Great :laugh:
One or two slightly antagonistic posts removed.. hopefully we can move on.
Mike
nvm
just got this phone today so if any devs ever pick up please contact me if you need testers.
No I'm actually happy with the phone I don't need a bunch of ROMs. I'm comfortable with unlocking the bootloader and flashing stock. My only concern was through MetroPCS they have the phone replacement program if something happens to your phone you pay the deductible and get a new one. I know that unlocking the bootloader blow void the warranty not sure how that works with paying the $6 a month in case the phone is lost or stolen.
I would actually like to start developing on my own again. Although I've been out of the game for a few years I know I can get back into it fairly easily. Because of my circumstances I am going to stick with the LG Stylo 3 plus from Metro PCS. As of now I disable any OTA updates I have yet to unlock Bootloader install custom recovery and root phone.
I am paying for the $6 a month extra to replace phone if lost or stolen. Or if during the process of development I broke it and I can say it was lost or stolen. I do like the phone. Thank you so much for being around hopefully within the next day or two I can grab my sisters laptop and install custom recovery, root, ROM is available. And go from there
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Is there any way I can get the stock firmware?
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
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as a kdz is out, i started creating the tree
I wonder what the likelihood will be for the V30 to attract more development of custom ROMs now that TxanMoe has discovered the "wtf" method of unlocking bootloader?
Personally I think the hardware and design of the phone is still up there with the best in terms of what I need in a phone (H930DS here). Its just some of the software that lets it down. The ultimate for me would be to have a Nexus-like stock android without losing the DAC, camera app and dual-SIM capabilities of this device.
I can only speak for myself, but now that LG and Samsung are making it next to impossible to root, I will be moving on to a developer friendly phone with my next purchase. I had ordered an H931 from eBay for $250 after the WTF method was verified, but it was canceled due to the account being compromised (I thought $250 was a LITTLE too cheap for a V30 -- but took the chance). I was going to order an LS998 -- there are plenty to be had for $275 to $300 (which is still a great deal), but I just can't bring myself to invest more money in a device that may be rootable NOW, but if I have to send it in for service (bricked it), I don't want to get a phone back that is patched. This happened to me with the H918 V20, and it took me 6 months to root the damn thing.
The HTC U12+ is missing some features that I want, but they are developer friendly. The Razer 2 will be announced shortly, and hopefully they fixed the short comings of the Razer 1 that I just couldn't get over.
The bottom line is, it gets OLD having to find holes in your phone -- a phone that you OWN. Again, I can only speak for myself, but I have a feeling that a lot of other developers are tired of the BS as well.
Tis been fun, but as soon as a phone with an SD845 that ticks all the checkboxes I am looking for is released, I will sell all my LG phones, and move on.
-- Brian
dgmorland said:
I wonder what the likelihood will be for the V30 to attract more development of custom ROMs now that TxanMoe has discovered the "wtf" method of unlocking bootloader?
Personally I think the hardware and design of the phone is still up there with the best in terms of what I need in a phone (H930DS here). Its just some of the software that lets it down. The ultimate for me would be to have a Nexus-like stock android without losing the DAC, camera app and dual-SIM capabilities of this device.
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I myself am holding on for a Pixel 2 rom port. I believe the V30 shares a lot with the Pixel 2 XL and probably is just a matter of time before a developer releases one. Until then I won't root because honestly the H933 stock rom is working great for me with battery and performance and the only thing I would root for right now is to install v4a.
runningnak3d said:
I can only speak for myself, but now that LG and Samsung are making it next to impossible to root, I will be moving on to a developer friendly phone with my next purchase. I had ordered an H931 from eBay for $250 after the WTF method was verified, but it was canceled due to the account being compromised (I thought $250 was a LITTLE too cheap for a V30 -- but took the chance). I was going to order an LS998 -- there are plenty to be had for $275 to $300 (which is still a great deal), but I just can't bring myself to invest more money in a device that may be rootable NOW, but if I have to send it in for service (bricked it), I don't want to get a phone back that is patched. This happened to me with the H918 V20, and it took me 6 months to root the damn thing.
The HTC U12+ is missing some features that I want, but they are developer friendly. The Razer 2 will be announced shortly, and hopefully they fixed the short comings of the Razer 1 that I just couldn't get over.
The bottom line is, it gets OLD having to find holes in your phone -- a phone that you OWN. Again, I can only speak for myself, but I have a feeling that a lot of other developers are tired of the BS as well.
Tis been fun, but as soon as a phone with an SD845 that ticks all the checkboxes I am looking for is released, I will sell all my LG phones, and move on.
-- Brian
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I have owned Samsung and LG devices almost exclusively, besides some HTC's sprinked in, since the dawn of Android but I have come to the same conclusion since purchasing my S8+ and V30. Great minds must think alike because I've decided on the Razer 2 as well and can't wait to see what's coming as the leaks trickle in over the next few months!