Cheap PC choice - Windows 11

Hello,
When looking for a cheap PC or laptop that can run Windows 10 and 11 properly.
Which Benchmarks to watch first? What score must he have at least?
I often hear that you need a passmark of 3000 minimum
Thanks

A used Dell laptop... try this guy.

jkbee26 said:
Hello,
When looking for a cheap PC or laptop that can run Windows 10 and 11 properly.
Which Benchmarks to watch first? What score must he have at least?
I often hear that you need a passmark of 3000 minimum
Thanks
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I'm running Windows 11 on a Surface Pro 6 and a 1st Gen Surface Laptop. The latter is a 4GB i5 machine and Windows 11 runs choppy.
My daughter ages wife each have Surface Laptop Go 8GB 256GB i5. The Surface Laptop Go is around $700 and Windows 11 runs pretty good on it.

Try Asus VivoBook.
I have one and Windows 11 runs pretty smoothly.

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Installing Win 7 on G Tab?

The ViewPad 10 has dual boot os' & I was wondering if anyone has managed or if it could be done on our G-Tabs? If so could you kindly share how to go about about doing this.
No it cant be done
Fair enough, but can I ask why? I had a cheapie Zenithink ZT-180v2 who's specs are crap & I was able to load WinCe with no problems.
because win7 is not designed to run on arm processors just x86 the viewpad is a intel adam processor and android has been ported to run on it.
Wait for windows 8 to ask this question... or do what i do... remote desktop with an RDP app :]. Better battery life than any windows 7 tablet to boot.
Xargon321 said:
because win7 is not designed to run on arm processors just x86 the viewpad is a intel adam processor and android has been ported to run on it.
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That would be Atom processor, not adam.
On the other hand Win Phone 7 might work on G-tab..... Anyone thought about that?
iamnottypingthis said:
remote desktop with an RDP app
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Yeah I've been trying to get Splashtop Remote to work away from my local network for days now but haven't had luck setting up the router to recognize the G-Tab & vice versa when I'm away from home. If I'm locally connected to my wifi, no prob but then what's the point of using a remote app if I'm at home. Other apps I can get to work, but they are slow compared to Splashtop.

[Q] Windows on GT?

This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
Len_TAb said:
This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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Welcome to the forums. The answer is no. Windows won't run on the chip that's in the tablet (it's called ARM architecture; same reason windows won't run on a cellphone). I've heard rumors that windows 8 may be possible at some point.
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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and how did you manage this?
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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You have the install disc sitting on your Tab?
Seriously, though. That sounds like horse**** from the same guy who claims to have played with Kal-el devices. Let's see a video.
How's this?
Splashtop HD running my home computer from work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0x48GuhNnI
Excuse the fumbling. It's hard to work the screen looking at the phone screen. And I should mention that we only have an 802.11g connection here at work.
Thank you Jay Evans for proving them wrong.
Well, holy hell! That means I have OS X Lion running on my Tab.
Thank you for the replies. Although I understand that some of us here might be in a rather humorous mood, but just to clarify: my question was not about remote desktops. I still think there has to be a way to have windows running on GT. Another question in this regard is about virtual machines. Is there any kind of VM available for honeycomb tablets?
While it might be possible you wouldn't enjoy the results. Especialy if you want to run actual programs on it. It would be as slow as molassas and suck the battery dry in no time.
Better to buy a Win 7 tablet and wait for something like Bluestacks to run Android or wait for the ARM version of Win 8.
It won't happen, Windows is based off x86 architecture and Android Tablets and phones are based off of ARM architecture, Windows 8 will have support for ARM though, so wait a year
While the answer to your question is still 'no', it is possible to run Windows 95 or 98 using emulators. There is a QEMU port for Android ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6661598 ) that does it, and I've also heard that you can install windows using AnDosBox.

Pentium III Tablet with Android?

hi there i've got an old Fujitsu Siemens Stylistic Tablet, originally ran Windows 2000 & can handle XP (albeit slowly) .. Its got a Pentium III and 512MB Ram
was just wondering if is possible to run android on this and bring back some life to it....
any help would be appreciated ... thanks
maybe you would rather try meego or just plain linux?
i'll give MeeGo a go haven't tried that before, thanks. tried ubuntu already but it wouldn't work, supposedly an earlier version of SUSE might work but i'd prefer something a bit more modern and android if at all possible....
Your best bet would be Windows 8, try installing the developer version and see.
well windows 8 would definitely not work, we're talking about a 10 year old tablet here...
psycho_somatic said:
well windows 8 would definitely not work, we're talking about a 10 year old tablet here...
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On a P3? wtf?

Surface Pro 4? Hows it run ?

Does anyone know how well this runs on a sp4 i5? windows 10 in tablet mode is driving me nuts. Remix OS and all the touch optimized android apps it brings would make this into the perfect device for me
Douglerful said:
Does anyone know how well this runs on a sp4 i5? windows 10 in tablet mode is driving me nuts. Remix OS and all the touch optimized android apps it brings would make this into the perfect device for me
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Touchscreen not working
Sad, I was going to buy a surface pro 4 this week...
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Has any progress been made to get Touch-screen working on SP4?
i'm also waiting for touchscreen. any progress?
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AllanJacques said:
Sad, I was going to buy a surface pro 4 this week...
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Buy lenovo yoga 700 same specs way lower price..
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The new remix os beta might be able to support touchscreen, not sure though. Lets wait till its out
Same as everyone above,
I'm running a SUrface Pro 4 i7 256gb 8gb Ram device.
I couldn't get this to boot from anything other than a USB drive, got stuck because of the single USB slot so plugged in a USB port extender and plugged mouse and keyboard to that and that all started working fine. Surface keypad and touch screen functions don,t work. Also the resolution is silly small but aside from that everything else seemed fine. Hoping the beta which rolls out today might address some of this but likely not.
My current challenge is to get remix os to boot from the internal hard-drive or the micro-sd i have plugged in at the back to keep the USB port free.
tfngwena said:
Same as everyone above,
I'm running a SUrface Pro 4 i7 256gb 8gb Ram device.
I couldn't get this to boot from anything other than a USB drive, got stuck because of the single USB slot so plugged in a USB port extender and plugged mouse and keyboard to that and that all started working fine. Surface keypad and touch screen functions don,t work. Also the resolution is silly small but aside from that everything else seemed fine. Hoping the beta which rolls out today might address some of this but likely not.
My current challenge is to get remix os to boot from the internal hard-drive or the micro-sd i have plugged in at the back to keep the USB port free.
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I am sure it would work out soon...
It makes sense to install it on the internal card...difficult to handle a a tablet with an ugly usb drive protruding from it...unlike a desktop pc....XD
freelancer81 said:
I am sure it would work out soon...
It makes sense to install it on the internal card...difficult to handle a a tablet with an ugly usb drive protruding from it...unlike a desktop pc....XD
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exactly! I was just happy to get it working first time round.
Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
gigahurts said:
Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
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That's really interesting. To be fair, microsoft only just managed to fix the bag warmer bug on the SP4 so likely some drivers on it might just be to new age.
In other news Remix OS beta is out with suport for installation on an internal drive. I found a post about how to do this manually but glad they have it baked into their install. No gurantee it will work though. Will update here once im done. http://www.jide.com/en/remixos-for-pc
Hopefully the newest beta will actually work. At work at the moment so can't test it with my SP4 yet. Been running AMIDuOS instead but it doesn't have great performance.
gigahurts said:
Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
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Simple question, how did you install it on your MicroSD card ? I'm having trouble installing it while keeping my second partition, basically I have an Asus T100 with limited SSD storage, so I'm trying to get RemixOS installed on one partition of my MicroSD card for dual boot while keeping my Windows data (files, movies...) on another partition. Any ideas ? I know there's this thing about only the active partition showing up in Windows, so a second partition won't show up in Windows (I have to do it from Linux).
Posting from the SP4 running the beta. Its good keyboard works, managed to boot from the internal partition i setup. No touchscreen support but typecover now works and the touchpad although buggy also works. i would use a usb mouse. Trying to change the resolution now doesnt recognise high res display on surface pro 4. Will post with updates.
I thing RemixOS currently doesn't recognize touchpad buttons, if you don't try to use them (as buttons), it works well, at least for me.
MrEnderkiller said:
Simple question, how did you install it on your MicroSD card ? I'm having trouble installing it while keeping my second partition, basically I have an Asus T100 with limited SSD storage, so I'm trying to get RemixOS installed on one partition of my MicroSD card for dual boot while keeping my Windows data (files, movies...) on another partition. Any ideas ? I know there's this thing about only the active partition showing up in Windows, so a second partition won't show up in Windows (I have to do it from Linux).
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well, when I launched the "now old" alpha usb installer, it allows me to select my sd card, on all the tablets actually, but only the venue actually boots from the sd card... Not sure why, if there's anything I can run, or get more information for you on it, let me know. I actually only got 130k on the alpha on my surface pro 3, sorry about the typo. I installed the beta today, and well, ITS EVEN FRICKIN BETTER, lol. Everything works (except the type cover, lol, and thats the only thing working on the sp4, lol). I mean everything works. Even the windows button works and brings up the remix menu. I'm getting 160k on antutu on the beta. Only problem is, when I'm dual booting and I get the 30 second screen to choose an OS, I can't pick one, unless I have my usb wireless dongle in and my little air mouse/keyboard at the ready, then I can choose with that controller. I guess I could change the default to android, but I use windows 10 x64 too. I had to use windows to root android, with the rmx tools. Anyway, the beta is buttery smooth on the sp3. All apps working except maps, just locks up when I launch it. Audio, bluetooth, wireless 2.4 and 5.0, multitouch, windows haptic button, rotation, battery meter, volume and power buttons, front and back cameras and accelerated graphics all working perfectly. Its totally awesome, this is a super fast android/windows dual OS tablet now!!!
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Hey all, just put the beta only maindektop and my venue. The desktop get 193k antutu i7 5820k @ 4ghz 16gb ddr4 256 m.2 m600 ssd. The venue gets 103k on the internal ssd, will bench on SD card later. Now installing on surface 3 (non pro cherry trail z8700), onda v919 air dual os (baytrail-t), and teclast x98 pro (cherry trail z8500). Not sure why my desktop and the venue's scores are so low. I haven't rooted and installed kernel auiditor yet though. Oh, and I'll bench the beta on my dell studio 15 7537 touchscreen lappy later too, i7 4500u, 16gb ddr3 256gb msata ssd 1gb geforce 750mand I'll bench it on my chuwi hi8 (cherry trail z8300). I'm like totally benchmark crazy right now, don't have anything better to do though. I could also put it on my lenovo miix 2 8 and my unbranded 10 inch (best buy brand), but I'm not sure what the point would be. I have 3 nexus 7s, 2 -2013s and 1 2012, I could install the arm version on the 2013s to compare with. I've got that lenovo g460 1st gen i5 560m, geforce 310m, 8gb ddr3 I picked up for $37 (most of what I have, I bought broken, and fixed it). I could go on, but I'm probably boring everybody. I'll let you know the results soon.
as far as why the beta works so well with the surface pro 3 and not with the SP4, I have no idea, it has similar hardware.
The surface pro 3 and the venue are running their full resolutions on the remix beta. Battery life is better than windows 10 x64 on both too.
Ill put it on my surface 3 and I have an old surface pro 1 lying around and let you know the results. I buy a lot of broken stuff and fix it. You should see my stack of phones, mostly s4 and s5, but I've got some others too. Seriously gadget ocd, lol. I'm posting on the venue 7130 vpro right now, not as buttery as the surface, but still snappy. Multi touch works, Bluetooth, WiFi 5.0 and 2.4 work, vibration works, windows button works, sound works, volume and power buttons work, battery meter works, maps works too, unlike the sp3. Rotation is about the only thing not working, but does on the sp3.
I was digging amiduos lollipop for a while, but yea, you just don't get the performance of running it natively. Although my desktop was getting way over 200k on antutu with it, but some things can only be run natively due to virtual machine limitations. I think this beta and the phoenix beta blow any virtual android machine away. I've run some marshmallow ones too, they just don't cut it for me.
Well, I went out and picked up another surface pro keyboard. I got the one that is backlit. The box says surface pro type cover. I didn't think it was any different than the one I already have. But...., this one works with remix, and the other doesn't. Anyway, the keyboard does work, but the trackpad doesn't work at all in remix, both work fine in windows. Also, I have maps working on my sp3. I had to go into settings and click on "let maps use full screen" and now its working. So to recap, everything on the surface pro 3 is working pretty much flawlessly with the remix beta. The front and rear cameras are a little laggy, but that's about it, oh, and the trackpad on the type cover isnt working. but bluetooth, wifi 5.0 and 2.4, rotation, vibration, windows button, surface pro stylus, battery meter, resolution, power and volume buttons, 10 point multi-touch and standby are all working very well. I'm not sure about display brightness as I haven't located where I can adjust it. Anybody know?
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well, when I launched the "now old" alpha usb installer, it allows me to select my sd card, on all the tablets actually, but only the venue actually boots from the sd card... Not sure why, if there's anything I can run, or get more information for you on it, let me know. I actually only got 130k on the alpha on my surface pro 3, sorry about the typo. I installed the beta today, and well, ITS EVEN FRICKIN BETTER, lol. Everything works (except the type cover, lol, and thats the only thing working on the sp4, lol). I mean everything works. Even the windows button works and brings up the remix menu. I'm getting 160k on antutu on the beta. Only problem is, when I'm dual booting and I get the 30 second screen to choose an OS, I can't pick one, unless I have my usb wireless dongle in and my little air mouse/keyboard at the ready, then I can choose with that controller. I guess I could change the default to android, but I use windows 10 x64 too. I had to use windows to root android, with the rmx tools. Anyway, the beta is buttery smooth on the sp3. All apps working except maps, just locks up when I launch it. Audio, bluetooth, wireless 2.4 and 5.0, multitouch, windows haptic button, rotation, battery meter, volume and power buttons, front and back cameras and accelerated graphics all working perfectly. Its totally awesome, this is a super fast android/windows dual OS tablet now!!!
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Thanks for the answer !
After some trials and research, I have found out that there's no way to boot from external sd card from my tablet (BIOS doesn't load it up before Windows boot). I could install RemixOS on my tablet's hard drive, but I won't be able to detach my keyboard which contains the HDD then. I have also tried the method that involves using grub2win, but for the same reasons at boot my grub2win installation isn't detected. I might try with putting it on my integrated SSD, and telling it to then look for RemixOS on my microSD when I have time, but for now it's a nope apparently.
I'll still try live booting the beta though, looks awesome !

CloudReady Chome OS clone on an old laptop, WOW!

I have an old Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop that I bought in 2009.
The CPU has been upgraded to a Core 2 Duo T9600 from its original Pentium T4200. The Ram is upgraded to 4gb from the original 2gb.
I upgraded the hard disk to a 120gb SSD drive.
The Dell 1545 originally came with Windows Vista with a free upgrade to Windows 7. I recently upgraded to Windows 10. Meh. I thought, why not try Chrome OS on the old laptop. So....
I installed CloudReady Chrome OS clone on this old laptop and ran Octane 2.0.
To my surprise, the Octane rating is 17264 with CloudReady installed. Wow!
For comparison, my Dell Chromebox 3010 Celeron 2955U CPU with 8gb ram and a 32gb SSD drive scores an Octane rating of 12450.
So adding CloudReady to an old laptop looks like a really good option. Better than bloated Windows 10.
Link to Chromebook specs & performance comparison chart (Octane ratings - 2016)
http://zipso.net/chromebook-specs-comparison-table/
Link to Neverware CloudReady
https://www.neverware.com/#introtext-3
Link to Octane 2.0 Test Page
https://chromium.github.io/octane/
i have/had (gave it to my gf) an acer one zg5 which i pimped with a 30gb ssd & maxed the ram to 1.5gb (aaargh). it was hopelessly slow with xp, win7, linux mint & ubuntu. i was curious about chrome os so tried arnold the bat's builds, which were fine & got me keen. I moved to cloudready simply because it's os updates work without any fuss.
i love the form of the old eeepc style netbooks and with chrome os i feel they have a new lease of life. long may the devs keep working on ports for our old bangers!
It's great for a school environment. Highly recommend. Support is awesome.
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I have an old Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop that I bought in 2009.
The CPU has been upgraded to a Core 2 Duo T9600 from its original Pentium T4200. The Ram is upgraded to 4gb from the original 2gb.
I upgraded the hard disk to a 120gb SSD drive.
The Dell 1545 originally came with Windows Vista with a free upgrade to Windows 7. I recently upgraded to Windows 10. Meh. I thought, why not try Chrome OS on the old laptop. So....
I installed CloudReady Chrome OS clone on this old laptop and ran Octane 2.0.
To my surprise, the Octane rating is 17264 with CloudReady installed. Wow!
For comparison, my Dell Chromebox 3010 Celeron 2955U CPU with 8gb ram and a 32gb SSD drive scores an Octane rating of 12450.
So adding CloudReady to an old laptop looks like a really good option. Better than bloated Windows 10.
Link to Chromebook specs & performance comparison chart (Octane ratings - 2016)
http://zipso.net/chromebook-specs-comparison-table/
Link to Neverware CloudReady
https://www.neverware.com/#introtext-3
Link to Octane 2.0 Test Page
https://chromium.github.io/octane/
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I've installed on old CompaqPresario CQ58. Very very fast.
The only problem is that it cannot use webcam microphone.
Any idea how to solve it?
spino1970 said:
I've installed on old CompaqPresario CQ58. Very very fast.
The only problem is that it cannot use webcam microphone.
Any idea how to solve it?
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There may be a few glitches in the code. Some of the CloudReady devices have glitches and don't work with certain features.

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