I have been an Apple user since BlackBerry died with their BlackBerry 10 OS. I have actually never touched an Android phone or even checked the OS and I don’t know someone with an Android to test stuff.
I was looking for a mobile hotspot (MiFi) device and these things are not just as expensive as good Android phones but also not good for many reasons as being limited to a few bands making them good for use in a region but not the other and I do travel often and the fact all it does is be a hotspot.
I was thinking Pixel 5 or Pixel 6/6a but I wanted to know how is Pixel when it comes to doing hotspot.
I ask because iOS suck at it because:
It times out when traffic stops and turns off and no way to stop that from happening
iOS devices which is what we mainly use, won’t sync with iCloud if connected to an iOS hotspot
iOS forces AP Isolation meaning devices connected to a hotspot can’t cross communicate over local network or see each other (which is bad for streaming devices like Google TV/Apple TV)
Carriers can easily enforce a limit on number of devices connected or even disable hotspot altogether but I heard this is not as easy for carriers to do on unlocked Android phones, and also can still be gotten around with third party apps without root (?)
I’d expect a Pixel can give advantage over a mobile hotspot device because I can use phone data plans and not be restricted to just mobile hotspot/tablets data plans. It also is a phone so serves as a backup phone.
So my question is:
How is the hotspot feature on Pixel 5/6
Is there any speed restrictions or they fast as data comes in
Is AP Isolation forced or can it be disabled
I believe I can disable the auto timeout, right?
What is the maximum number of devices can be connected at once over WiFi?
Is 5 GHz stable on it? I know it isn’t on iPhone 13 Pro Max
1. It serves me pretty well. A12/13 is pretty vague in the settings :/
2. I've been able to pull my full cell bandwidth through hotspot, though I tend to stick to PDAnet as this hides my limited hotspot usage. It is slower but worth.
3. TBH I've never heard of AP Isolation, I just assumed it created one WAP.
4. I've never tried but I imagine as many as one subnet can fit (so 255? But tell me you'll have over 10 and I'll be impressed)
5. Yep! Though I tend to keep to 2.4GHz as this lets me sling off of 5GHz wifi networks as well.
Works pretty good for me, if you're root and want to get a few extra functionality you might want to try out vpn hotspot
Related
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pdanet.tablet
For those of us with honeycomb tablets, you may want to have data everywhere you go on it. But you don't want to hack your phone, cause you just got it on a two year contract. And the carrier price is WAY to expensive, and not unlimited. This is the problem my uncle had when we gave him an Android tablet. With his Evo 4G, he should have data everywhere he goes, and that is where this app comes in.
Advantages.
Its Bluetooth, so no rooting required, if both devices have Bluetooth that is *cough* kindle fire doesn't *cough*
Since its Bluetooth, it doesn't show up to every wifi device within 30 feet of you, and is secured to only work with properly setup devices
Unlike PdaNet for computer tethering, this one is completely free (so is hotspot, but that needs root)
Disadvantages
Bluetooth isn't the fastest method for tethering, but since wifi hotspot is slower than the data you get using the phone, it works out to be about the same. Still a factor though
You need to have data on both devices to get the app in the first place.
It is required of you to set a proxy in order to use this (the proxy is coming from your phone, your data isn't being watched by this app, just Sprint and Carrier IQ )
You need to clear this proxy in order to use normal wifi every time, which can be tedious
As it stands, this is a great method for unlimited data for your tablet without having to void your phone's warrenty. What do you guys think, would this be enough for you to not need to root every phone you get? Can't hurt to find out can it?
I can confirm this works with the Evo Shift, and Evo 4G as servers, and with the Acer Iconia Tab a100 as the client.
I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
jonesychris said:
I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
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Sorry, I don't have a solution for you. I was just more curious if your wireless carrier has found out about you tethering and tried to force you into a tethering plan? I really want to jailbreak my iPhone for tethering but it sounds like there isn't a fullproof way of not letting carriers find out you are doing this.
I would like to do the same. I've read on other forums that some have success with honeycomb connecting to 4.0 miwi
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
jonesychris said:
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
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Ah ok, well keep us updated. I too am grandfathered in on unlimited data on my iPhone 4. And I also am a fairly light user (< 1GB/month), but everyone makes it sound like the carriers are jumping on illegal tethering pretty hard. Regardless of how much data is actually used, they know from the ports that tethering is happening. I almost wouldn't mind paying for a tethering account, but the worst part about doing it is that you lose unlimited regular data.
Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
Because they want to charge for it. Not sure
No one has successfully tethered with bluetooth?
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I found this article with some searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374213&highlight=bluetooth+tether
I wonder if this would work with the View. Same WPA file work?
tito12 said:
Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
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Its not "illegal", in that I don't think you can get thrown in jail or sued for it.
But you agree to the carrier's Terms & Conditions when you sign up to use their network, whether you like it or not (or bothered to read them). Violation of the Terms means that the carrier can terminate your service, add charges to your account, or other repercussions, depending on what the Terms state.
Not sure what carrier's policies are in Israel. But in the US, most of the big carriers have specific statements in their Terms of Use, that prohibit tethering other devices to your phone without a tethering specific plan. If you are caught violating this policy, they reserve the right to add that plan to your account, or even drop your account if they want.
And yes, its of course so they can charge you extra. I completely agree that data should be data. And if you pay for a certain amount of data, or on an unlimited plan, then ideologically it should not make a difference if you are tethered or not. But there are many times in life where the most logical or fair concept is not what happens in reality. Especially in the for-profit business world.
No one has any ideas? Surely i'm not the first person who has tried to do this.
I just posted a possible solution related to this except I did it on the View:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469997
Hi everyone
This may sound like an odd question but we need to block our daughter from accessing the Internet and playing games when she should be doing her schoolwork. We’ve tried blocking UPNP to stop her gaming but it hasn’t worked, and as she does need occasional Internet access totally blocking her (which I can easily do from our BT Homehub 2) isn’t really an option and doesn’t always work.
The problem with completely blocking her is that there’s an open unsecured wifi network nearby which she’s apparently hooking up to if we disconnect her from ours.
So, without taking her laptop off her (which she does actually need) is there any way we can block her from accessing the other network? If I knew who’s it was I’d advise them that it’s unsecured and ask them to fix it, but I don’t.
A colleague in work suggested setting up a wifi hotspot on an Android phone and giving it the same name as the other network (or even as ours), and as the signal from the phone would be stronger, her laptop would probably logon to the Android hotspot instead. As mobile data’s generally slower than wifi it may also be too slow for her gaming. I can’t try this as I don’t have an Android phone, but if it was likely to work I’d buy one - Carphone Warehouse have an Alcatel Android phone for about £30 which can be used as a hotspot.
Does anyone know if there’s any way of setting up a hotspot without actually having a connection to the Internet, via Android or otherwise?
It’s becoming a game of minds now between us and our daughter, and we sort of need to let her know we’re the parents, but without coming down too hard or her just yet.
Thanks.
Sam
I was wondering if there is an Android ROM that only does Hotspot. I see a bunch of LTE devices that are lying around with people that aren't used widely. Instead I would like to install a modded version of Android where all of the services (like calling texting, etc) are removed and it only runs as a networking device. The UI would basically be pretty basic and have all the hotspot settings and information on screen. There are a lot of devices that support LTE but aren't very good performing devices for general use with limited RAM etc. It would be a good idea to reuse these as cheap LTE hotspots since these are more reliable than most cheap hotspots that are sold around (especially in countries like India and China). Also these hotspots are remotely manageable by carriers so that is a privacy concern to. Installing VPN profiles onto hotspot would be an option since it would basically run Android. I will look more into this a prepare a basic version for something in the coming weeks hopefully for a widely popular device. I hope this idea is popular.
Good day, everyone!
I recently attempted, but failed, to utilize my mobile hotspot to connect a friend's phone to the internet through the 5.0 GHz AP Band. The hotspot shuts off after around 7 or 8 seconds when the AP band is set to "5.0 GHz". For my hotspot to not automatically switch off after about 7 or 8 seconds, I had to resort to utilizing the "2.4 GHz" AP frequency.
I really want to utilize the "5.0 GHz" AP band on my mobile hotspot without having to worry about it shutting down every 7 or 8 seconds, since, although I realize that I will be limiting the bandwave to a smaller region, I will be getting better speeds for my mobile hotspot connections in return.
I read a potential fix posted on this oneplus thread (https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/wifi-hotspot-5ghz-not-working.959323/) that sadly didn't work, and provided you have ADB, the major steps outlined were as follows:
1. Connect ADB to your phone
2. Run adb shell settings get global tether_dun_required
- Take note of the value you get (I believe I got "null" the first time around)
3. Run adb shell settings put global tether_dun_required 0 - restart your phone to get 5.0GHz tethering
If it's important to know, I'm running build 11.0.1.12.DE18CB (OxygenOS) on a T-Mobile variation (DE2118) that has been rooted using Magisk.
If anybody is having this difficulty, or if anyone knows how to repair the problem, it would be much appreciated if you could respond to this thread.
Thank you very much.
Hotspot being all ****ed up and barely working is a long standing "feature" of OnePlus even on qualcomm, and Nord has definitely got the worst of it.
On my device (DN2103_11_A.20), the 5Ghz setting is ignored entirely, it always opens 2.4Ghz hotspot.
Weirdly enough, it does that even while being connected to 5Ghz AP at the same time which I didn't think was even possible. On most mediatek phones, if you use wifi connection, hotspot will insist on sharing its band - ie hotspot band is forced to the channel of the AP the phone is connected to and relaying internet from.
The 2.4Ghz hotspot on Nord2 runs very flaky (only ~5mbits to LTE connection running at 50mbits for the phone itself). Moreover, when not using LTE, but phone is connected to wifi (regardless of whether 2.4Ghz or 5GHz) that is relayed to "forced 2.4Ghz" hotspot, that wifi uplink will become flaky too: 500Mbit/s -> 5mbit/s on 5Ghz, 50Mbit/s->5mbit/s on 2.4Ghz AP. Meaning if you use your phone as range extender, internet will be severely slowed down on the phone itself, and become almost as sucky as it is for hotspot clients.
To top it all off, the issue of "disconnecting after 5-8 secs" occurs randomly for me even on 2.4Ghz, typically in AP relaying situation on same band as explained above. The hotspot toggle is not switching itself off in the UI though - the hotspot AP SSID disappears from the air, as if wisi baseband were repeatedly crashing or something.
The only workaround I know of is to disconnect from wifi, disable hotspot, enable LTE, enable hotspot, let people connect and *then* finally connect to wifi (which "reroutes" hotspot clients from LTE to my wifi uplink).
I don't see how DUN could be related at all here.
tl;dr: Don't bother with 5Ghz hotspot, since the wifi driver is so utterly broken for hotspot it doesn't matter which band you use.
ezdiy said:
Hotspot being all ****ed up and barely working is a long standing "feature" of OnePlus even on qualcomm, and Nord has definitely got the worst of it.
On my device (DN2103_11_A.20), the 5Ghz setting is ignored entirely, it always opens 2.4Ghz hotspot.
Weirdly enough, it does that even while being connected to 5Ghz AP at the same time which I didn't think was even possible. On most mediatek phones, if you use wifi connection, hotspot will insist on sharing its band - ie hotspot band is forced to the channel of the AP the phone is connected to and relaying internet from.
The 2.4Ghz hotspot on Nord2 runs very flaky (only ~5mbits to LTE connection running at 50mbits for the phone itself). Moreover, when not using LTE, but phone is connected to wifi (regardless of whether 2.4Ghz or 5GHz) that is relayed to "forced 2.4Ghz" hotspot, that wifi uplink will become flaky too: 500Mbit/s -> 5mbit/s on 5Ghz, 50Mbit/s->5mbit/s on 2.4Ghz AP. Meaning if you use your phone as range extender, internet will be severely slowed down on the phone itself, and become almost as sucky as it is for hotspot clients.
To top it all off, the issue of "disconnecting after 5-8 secs" occurs randomly for me even on 2.4Ghz, typically in AP relaying situation on same band as explained above. The hotspot toggle is not switching itself off in the UI though - the hotspot AP SSID disappears from the air, as if wisi baseband were repeatedly crashing or something.
The only workaround I know of is to disconnect from wifi, disable hotspot, enable LTE, enable hotspot, let people connect and *then* finally connect to wifi (which "reroutes" hotspot clients from LTE to my wifi uplink).
I don't see how DUN could be related at all here.
tl;dr: Don't bother with 5Ghz hotspot, since the wifi driver is so utterly broken for hotspot it doesn't matter which band you use.
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Thank you for your reply ezdiy.
It is terrible to realize that OnePlus has a persistent problem with this, but considering the number of discussions I noticed about this issue (5.0 GHz hotspot not functioning), all on diverse OnePlus devices, I am not surprised. In addition, I wonder why "Nord" may have suffered the worst of such a condition.
The problem you suffer from is unusual. I wish I could assist you, but sadly, I am no expert in these things.
It is interesting, since, it appears that there are some circumstances in which my 5.0 GHz hotspot performs well (Doesn't switch off automatically after 7/8 seconds) and other instances in which it doesn't. Does anything like this happen to you regarding the phone hotspot, where it works better in some circumstances than others?
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In addition, I wonder why "Nord" may have suffered the worst of such a condition.
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My apologies for confusion, as I missed your device is N200 (Snapdragon chip, on those hotspot doesn't suck as badly).
My device is Nord 2 5G 12G/256G (Mediatek Dimensity 1200). It's still interesting to compare notes about the hotspot bugs across diverse array of chipsets, though.
This at least hints its something wrong going on in OxygenOS itself.
ezdiy said:
My apologies for confusion, as I missed your device is N200 (Snapdragon chip, on those hotspot doesn't suck as badly).
My device is Nord 2 5G 12G/256G (Mediatek Dimensity 1200). It's still interesting to compare notes about the hotspot bugs across diverse array of chipsets, though.
This at least hints its something wrong going on in OxygenOS itself.
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I could tell where you were coming from, ezdiy, so don't worry.
At a first glance, I noticed that the OnePlus 6 and, as you mentioned, the OnePlus Nord 2 5G are both affected by the 5.0 GHz Band issue. However, there appears to be a general Mobile Hotspot issue among OnePlus devices, as evidenced by the OnePlus forums (From the OnePlus 5, to the OnePlus 8 Pro, OnePlus 9, and OnePlus 10 Pro 5G, among many others) and the OnePlus Reddit (Ex: OnePlus 7).
I'm genuinely curious as to what the issue is. It could very well be OxygenOS, as you suggested. Regardless of the issue, I'm curious as to how long it will take for OnePlus to truly resolve such widespread problems.