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I own a Galaxy S9 plus about two month..
But I'm already very disappointed....
Below average camera (worse than Poco F1)..
No stable Pai update after 4 month(OnePlus 6, 6t, essential phone, mate 20, p20, mi 8, Poco f1, xperia xz 2 & a lot more already have pai)....
Now want to switch to OnePlus 6T...
I know I'll miss Dolby Atmos , the screen for sure..
If any one have any suggestions please help me..
First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
I would vote for keeping the S9+ as well. I had the 6T before, but I had to send it back because it kept dropping the LTE connection to the tower by my house. Of course getting the newest Android versions is nice, but a lot of times there are bugs when you get them that soon anyway. Also the only thing I could think of that made Pie worth the wait was that you could replace the navbar with gestures. Other than that the S9+ feels more premium, and like you said you have Atmos, the wonderful screen, etc. The 6T was definitely snappy but lag does not seem to me to be an issue on the S9+.
Just keep the s9+. You'll get the android pie (pai?) update in january with a brand new interface and it'll make your device much faster and more responsive. It's not worth losing all the s9+ features to the 6t.
If you are just after speed. Enable Game mode in device maintenance. It will become at least 25% due to more aggressive governor settings.
On the camera, i agree with above comments. If it is worse than poco 8n quality. Something really wrong with either the settings or hardware. Try a factory reset.
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dxzdxz1 said:
First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
Look, if your camera is worse then poco you have problem with the devices or with the eyes
I bought that phone 3 weeks after it's came out and I'm totally happy with it, especially from the camera, so much that my sis ,parents and few friends saw the photos and videos and bought the plus version a mouth later and they still thank me for the right choise of device
as we all know, there is no perfect phone yet, the bad things that the s9/+ for my opinion have is the small battery and the annoying edges. the screen look fu**ing amazing but the edge are cause the expience from my pov. of course the slow updates but that is samsung, always was, they have big UI to upgrade every android new version, the most chinese companies have more clean android experience so less work on every build.
the 1+6t is amazing phone in good price, it's faster and smoother thanks for the clean UI and 8gb ram at some models, but the screen is not good as ours, our camera is better, I think also that the 1+6t has mono speaker so the sound is worse.
In fact, what you think to do is to transfer from premium amazign high quality device to good device, if you have in your pocket s7, or any old device the 1+6t is good choise, but here you downgrade yourself.
My advice is to compare your s9 photos with friend who have that phone too or here and see if your camera work properly, and if not go to the warranty.
sorry for poor english, I'm working on it :silly:
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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2 days of use, see the apps that are used, videos watched only for 1 hour during that period. Oreo exynos btw.
And with stable Pie seeding as of yesterday, you know my answer - keep the s9+!
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
belic said:
6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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What
It's very easy to do 6 hours-7 hours SOT on S9+
I don't know if your using a Exynos
Mine a snapdragon
But even with using mobile data for around 2-3 hours i can easily get 6 hours
I have set my screen resolution to WQHD+ too
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
I acually switched to a OP6T with a guy in my city and i got back to him after 2 days and would like to change back. As happy i was when i got it back he accepted the return again. Got my S9+ back and im happy. No notification LED on the 6T is a dealbreaker for me, i use it everyday on my S9+. I tested some apps that would replace the use of an Notification LED but it would not strike me enough. I read that people does simply not care about notification LED anymore beacuse the phone has an Ambient display, as silly verison of an always on display for me, like really the phone does not even have real always on display, only Ambient display. (tested rooting it and installing OP6s always on display ZIP, as it was the only one available and it is awful. OnePlus them self removed their Always on Display in a couple betas back, replacing it with Ambient display, stupid move. Worked perfectly on my old OP5 before it broke) No headphone jack is also a really bruh OnePlus, bragging on it a year ago when Apple removed it and now they did it. I have a pair of Bluetooth earphones but as the battery runs out i always switch to my Beats earphones, i KNOW that OnePlus provides a dongle with it but me not digging the red color at all and as it feels like it will break after one day of use of dragging it around. (as the cable is thin) I would still credit OnePlus for their operating system being much more nicer than Samsungs. (menys, app designs, all around simpler design in my opinion) The speed is also real and the performance/battery life is quite impressive compared to my S9+ as the price. Also dash charge! I wanted to switch to OP6T beacuse of the performance and battery life. Also me seeing the S9+ as an photograpy phone was not my intend in the beginning, but i must say when i take a photo(not often at all) it takes stunning pictures, both in lowlight and normal day use. I bought it when it came out as a new daily driver with speed and performance and was a bit disappointed with the speed/performance/battery and still is, but switching from it to an phone without an Notification LED and headphone jack i forgot how much i use them daily. Will keep my S9+ until it breaks a probably buy a OP6.
No way...u shud do it other way round...dumped my 6 and s9 plus is different league...
I have the 6T and my wife has the S9+. Her camera is way better than my 6T camera. Her S9+ has a much nicer screen. My 6T feels more responsive. Overall, I think the S9+ is a better phone, but the 6T is better value for the money. If you already have the S9+, I would stick with it.
Install package disabler and disable all the extra function you're not getting on OP 6T. Just as fast. With s9+, you're getting so much function than vanilla. It's the extra flavor that I like. But if you are into vanilla, then OP 6T is the way.
Personal note: I really love the motion photo.
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It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
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Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
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Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
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I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
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I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
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Previous day's SOT is 3.5hrs.
I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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abdou1998 said:
So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
abdou1998 said:
So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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I have the base s21 on order due to arrive on friday upgrading from an s9. So far i'm yet to see any positive comments about the phone and is making me consider sending it back straight away and getting something else.
I would love to hear nice comments from real day to day users to hopefully sway me back the other way but with the camera, battery and chrome issues i've been seeing i don't know if i can commit.
Everything is great except for the battery
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Everything is great except for the battery
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Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
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Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
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The battery is good, just not on this latest february update. Before the update my S21 exynos had good battery life (6hours SOT on 4G, 7-8hours SOT on wifi). So we just need to wait for samsung to fix the battery drain this newest update caused.
Haven't had any of the issues others are posting, S21 (Snapdragon). Coming from 20+ battery not as good, but not seeing the drain others are complaining about. Very happy, even my Smart unlock works much more often, and finger print reader definitely better, but not near as good as my old Pixel. It was lightening. Loved the look of the old curved screen, but with flat, have less issues with case fitting and accidental swipes. Prefer the S21 size, I don't use my phone for games or Kindle, more as a phone and information center and controller for other devices. Oh yea, and a ton of music and Android Auto, wifi calling works better, even my screen saver when charging stays on now even though hits 100% charged. Glad I took them up on the "free" upgrade
The S21 Ultra is an all day phone.
2 Days for moderate use.
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Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
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I haven't had an battery issues (Exynos) but I have been on WiFi all day, I have read the drain occurs on mobile data. I have been getting about 8hrs screen on time with 120hz at FHD+
Well,
I expected a lot more from a phone that costed over 1000 $ when released.
Although I did purchased it used,many things frustrate me a lot so lets go by order:
1. Yellowish tint on screen which makes white color not so white,like the night filter option is ON,screen is not changed on this phone,so only thing I could do is go to vivid settings decrease red channel all the way and set colors to more cooler tone,but just setting to Natural display settings yellow tone is more then noticeable..
Dunno is it just my phone or any others experience this issue.
2.Battery is terrible.I noticed last night drop of 4 % while only GSM in 4 hours so I suppose while in stanby it looses 1 % per hour,my Ulefone Power 5S doesn't loose any battery capacity while ON though it has 13 000 mAh battery.
This issue I couldn't resolve,I suppose it is like that way,because I had same issue before with Note 8 which was bought used,though phone was not used that much because I was frustrated with battery lasting at most 1 day of mediocre usage.
While this phone is on WiFi battery loses capacity drastically.
I even switched it to power saving mode ON,turned off all gestures,turned black theme on,every possible way to save battery but still loosing capacity with simple GSM signal.
3 Wifi quality signal is pretty bad,even my good old S7 edge beats the 1000 $ phone,it usually is droping signal from other networks id there are many outdoors but indoors it has good quality signal.
I figured out for unknown reason that when I turn OFF power saving signal I do get better Wifi quality/strength signal,dunno why,is it just me phone or what the f..k.
4. Very bad sound quality from caller ovet network,while outdoors I can barely hear someone talking while making calls.
Dunno what else,if I remember I will post in same topic,don't think it's just my phone because I see many comlaining about this on this very own forum.
I can't tell anything positive for a phone that costed 1000 $ and I can't get over these things,so Samsung what where you thinking when you released this phone.
No more Samsung phones for me,next I will try Huawei.
Well, I sincerely do not recognize what you describe as a note 10+, not a single issue you mention has happened to me, if you are so frustrated, sell it
have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
blackhawk said:
Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
paparazzo79 said:
Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
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The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.
I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.
Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.
So, day one, regular use for me, at 50% after nearly 9 hours! Thats a record for a Samsung device, for me.
Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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Chrome. Great desktop browser but a terrible battery hog for phones. If you'd used Samsung browser you'd see much better battery
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Chrome. Great desktop browser but a terrible battery hog for phones. If you'd used Samsung browser you'd see much better battery
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I believe that but I use chrome for work (password) saved there is well and all saved tab I need.
But same usage and same apps I used on pixel 7 pro is well so was hope that will same or similar better then pixel.
I not have issue on pixel great battery etc just few thing piss me off on pixels and for work spen is priceless for me.
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Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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That's probably "good" (?) for the S23U, especially if not optimized. All Samsung's should be optimized for best battery life and performance. Either by Package Disabler or adb edits.
Even with a degraded battery that due to be replaced I'm getting 8 hours or so on an optimized* N10+; easily over 12 hours SOT on a new battery. Samsung's stock solution has been to use a bigger battery since the N20U, with progressively worse SOT per mAh in spite of what should be more efficient SOCs and ram... and now no expandable storage.
*unoptimized the N10+ was a hot running hog that got 6.5 hrs SOT. Optimizing nearly doubled the SOT as significantly increased the screen off time as well. Backup Transport was a major perpetrator.
I got 19 hours on day one. Today I'm at 43% after just under 10 hours with just under 4 hours screen on time
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I got 19 hours on day one. Today I'm at 43% after just under 10 hours with just under 4 hours screen on time
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N10+, screen off, cell/internet service on with AOD set to tap on, I use less than .5%@hr.
With good battery I use a total of 6-7% browsing with Brave, again with a good battery. Display manual brightness of 30-40%
With a degraded battery which is at replacement time this is what I'm getting, most of which is watching utube vids.
No 5G or variable refresh rate display, power set to optimized. This is with a less efficient ram and presumably SOC. More significantly much less mAh capacity.
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Not sure mate how your, but my is completely disappointed, pixel 7 pro has 8h+ on display S23U hardly has 7.5h+
Not sure if just my usage is more hardly use but battery or maybe setup is different for me.
All turn on (mobile data, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, location, Nfc, adaptive motion, wqhd+)
3 hours on Spotify with Bluetooth speaker.
Yes I use phone for my work so most day on it.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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For P7P, I find it varies wildly by ROM. Stock is a good middle ground, I think the best so far for me have been the AOSP-based ones with Gapps.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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I was about to comment the same. I never got that kind of SOT on the pixel 7 pro after three months of having the device max would be 5 1/2 probably six squeezing everybit of juice. Good device but for battery the s23 ultra is giving me way more for the same usage no optimization.
I think by enabling the light performance profile, the device becomes a battery champion
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I was about to comment the same. I never got that kind of SOT on the pixel 7 pro after three months of having the device max would be 5 1/2 probably six squeezing everybit of juice. Good device but for battery the s23 ultra is giving me way more for the same usage no optimization.
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Yeah I will say the February beta has had me going 39h off the charger with 5h SoT but that's largely been on wifi. I know from messing with my OnePlus 9 that it doesn't *have* to be super draining on LTE but I've taken the Pixel out on a day's outing and had it lose 50% in 3 hours on LTE/5G.
I've "upgraded" from the Fold4 in the hope that battery life would be much better. I'm blown away by how long this thing lasts!
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I've "upgraded" from the Fold4 in the hope that battery life would be much better. I'm blown away by how long this thing lasts!
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SoC upgraded with a better power-efficiency, far smaller screen surface to power and also 600mha more on the battery. An other outcome would have been surprising.
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SoC upgraded with a better power-efficiency, far smaller screen surface to power and also 600mha more on the battery. An other outcome would have been surprising.
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Whole heartedly agree. My usage on the Fold4 - I hardly used the internal screen (I know, I know!). Comparing external screen use alone, this thing wins night and day. Surprising in some ways because of the resolution and pixels being driven vs the fold4 external display, but as you say, more efficient SoC coupled with a slightly larger battery must be working its magic.
Standby drain overnight is something else I've noticed as being much better too.
Early days, but I would charge my fold4 sometimes as much as 3 times throughout the day. This thing comfortably lasts a full day with many hours of screen on time and has battery left to spare. Amazing efficiency gains considering the short time frame between the two SoC's.
Mine is still optimization but so far looks good. Day 2 of use. Far better than my S22U exynos.

Second full day of usage, include setup cameras and work
Again 3 hours on Spotify +Bluetooth speaker, all turn on GPS, Bluetooth, WiFi, 5G + WiFi etc it's little better then yesterday around 8h+ on display still has 6% left.
Hope will possible on my use 9h+ on display.
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You must have had a golden sample SoC in the 7 Pro to get that kind of battery. 99% of us didn't and don't see that.
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Nop, I got problem on pixel 6 pro Thst was big issue and charge phone 3 times a day but pixel 7pro its really similar battery like S23U right now.
It was 8h+ on display and all turn on and max resolution.
Big issue is on Bluetooth wasn't work with my huawei watch 3 pro they block it.
Not sure maybe is my phone some premium to have that but I seen better then my also.
Latest. Everything max. Bluetooth and location on all time. Poor cell reception at work. Streaming radio on commute. So impressed with this. It blows the 22 exynos away.
tomy159 said:
Nop, I got problem on pixel 6 pro Thst was big issue and charge phone 3 times a day but pixel 7pro its really similar battery like S23U right now.
It was 8h+ on display and all turn on and max resolution.
Big issue is on Bluetooth wasn't work with my huawei watch 3 pro they block it.
Not sure maybe is my phone some premium to have that but I seen better then my also.
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I mean I guess if I use my 7 Pro straight through I can get 8 hours pretty easily as my average screen on usage is 8%/hr but the standby time is awful, like 2% drain per hour. This is all on wifi too. If I am on mobile network, I'm looking at 12-15%/hr screen on and 3-4.5% standby drain. I can't wait to have the more efficient modem in the S23U.