I was happily browsing web last night with my 1 iii, until suddenly the screen shut off. I remember that it shut off like a old TV, leaving a flash in the middle of the screen. After that I tried rebooting the phone and it did boot up, but the same thing happened a few minutes after. I tried rebooting it again, this time it just worked for a few seconds and the phone shutdown again. I can’t get it back to live ever since.
Tried flashing the phone with newflasher and the same firmware it was using, but the screen remained black after the flash completed successfully, which indicated that it have hardware problems rather than software.
The only thing I could remember that may lead to its death is I get a USB port disabled warning after I taking it into the bathroom. However, I had shaken the water out and the warning disappeared and it works fine for over 1 hour before its sudden death, so I am not sure if the water is the reason.
I have sent it to Sony's repair site this morning, but I am expecting a critical failure which will cost me a lot. If that would be the case, I may just throw it away and buy a new 1 IV.
It is such a shame that it just died without any warning, cause I really consider 1 iii a nice phone to use.
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I was happily browsing web last night with my 1 iii, until suddenly the screen shut off. I remember that it shut off like a old TV, leaving a flash in the middle of the screen. After that I tried rebooting the phone and it did boot up, but the same thing happened a few minutes after. I tried rebooting it again, this time it just worked for a few seconds and the phone shutdown again. I can’t get it back to live ever since.
Tried flashing the phone with newflasher and the same firmware it was using, but the screen remained black after the flash completed successfully, which indicated that it have hardware problems rather than software.
The only thing I could remember that may lead to its death is I get a USB port disabled warning after I taking it into the bathroom. However, I had shaken the water out and the warning disappeared and it works fine for over 1 hour before its sudden death, so I am not sure if the water is the reason.
I have sent it to Sony's repair site this morning, but I am expecting a critical failure which will cost me a lot. If that would be the case, I may just throw it away and buy a new 1 IV.
It is such a shame that it just died without any warning, cause I really consider 1 iii a nice phone to use.
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maybe the battery circuit or charging circuit is grounded
The repair station said that it was due to the bad display, and the cost to replace would be a half of a brand new 1 IV. I seems that I don't really have a choice.
That's a short warranty for such an expensive device.
Bummer, you would think the warranty should cover it
akkk44 said:
The repair station said that it was due to the bad display, and the cost to replace would be a half of a brand new 1 IV. I seems that I don't really have a choice.
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They don't replace it under warranty?! Did you mention the water incident?
2 years in Europe, 1 year in the US. Sony SBE is extremely hostile, to put it politely. My first Xperia 1 III was defective on arrival and SBE said my warranty was voided with no evidence. If you paid with a major credit card you should be protected against fraud. Contact them and they'll reverse the charge. It doesn't matter if it wasn't a direct purchase.
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Bummer, you would think the warranty should cover it
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They said I have only 1 year of warranty
LaceeWearsPrada said:
They don't replace it under warranty?! Did you mention the water incident?
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They said I have only 1 year of warranty, and the technician said he found no trace of water. He told me that it is just the screen "natually" stopworking.
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OK so my friend dropped her sgs 2 today. Now the screen won't work
It won't power on and can't access download and recovery modes. Would a USB jig help at all or is she a paperwieght?
Didn't think that it might be because the screen is dead?
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thteddieboii said:
OK so my friend dropped her sgs 2 today. Now the screen won't work
It won't power on and can't access download and recovery modes. Would a USB jig help at all or is she a paperwieght?
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if the screen is not working, it can be replaced.. jig would not help if the problem is with the screen..still the phone is under warranty?
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Thanks guys
Thinking it might be the screen cause it does warm up when it charges..
Guess its not the screen! Doesnt make any sounds whatsoever.. just heats up during charging thats it.. can i save this phone or is she dead? picking it up today or tommorow to see if i can fix it.
cheers for helping guys xD.
Same issue from a lend out phone at JB Hifi
Having the same issue only the phone is a spare lend out phone from JB Hifi while my SGS2 i9100T, which I purchased about a week ago brand new, is in for a screen assessment (bad blue tint) just so I can get a refund. I powered up the lend out phone no problems, worked for a while then stopped working, won't power up or anything. Download, recovery, usb jig, battery out 5 mins, battery charged seperately in charger, phone is dead.
Shame on you JB Hifi Canberra!
Shades of **** Smith's new *coughsReturneDcoughs* external hard drives
Wish I had a fix for you Unfortunately, given it's a loan phone, you're a bit limited so far as flashing something else goes (I wouldn't risk it, put it that way).
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Having the same issue only the phone is a spare lend out phone from JB Hifi while my SGS2 i9100T, which I purchased about a week ago brand new, is in for a screen assessment (bad blue tint) just so I can get a refund. I powered up the lend out phone no problems, worked for a while then stopped working, won't power up or anything. Download, recovery, usb jig, battery out 5 mins, battery charged seperately in charger, phone is dead.
Shame on you JB Hifi Canberra!
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It could be a problem with a faulty SD card - Remove it and try and switch on.
It could be a problem with the screen - If any of the key-lights come on, then that is likely the problem.
It could be a problem with a very flat battery - I had this problem with an old HTC. The solution was to remove the battery, plug in the phone to the charger (not USB to computer), leave it for a couple of minutes, plug in the battery and leave for a couple of hours. Finally try and power it on.
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Shades of **** Smith's new *coughsReturneDcoughs* external hard drives
Wish I had a fix for you Unfortunately, given it's a loan phone, you're a bit limited so far as flashing something else goes (I wouldn't risk it, put it that way).
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Turned out that the "loan phone" they gave me was a returned faulty phone from a previous customer. They gave it to me simply to shut me up!!! I came back the next morning and confronted them and they gave me a motorola defy loan phone????!!!!! I swear they will bend over backwards to avoid having to refund a phone. He asked another sales person why it was returned and was told that the phone was randomly powering down!!!!!! I asked them what happened regarding the previous customer and the store person said JB lost that claim and had to give in to the customers request(whatever that was). That gives me evidence that a refund at JB may exist?
Yeah ? That's disgraceful And Australian retailers honestly wonder why Australian consumers avoid buying from them at every possible opportunity. There's one more reason right there.
**** em. If a phone starts playing up badly within a week like that, the retailer should replace it no questions asked. At the end of the day they're going to be reimbursed by Samsung, them doing the right thing like that just saves you the grief of having to go thru hoops with Samsung.
And given they couldn't/wouldn't do that with you in the first instance, I'd demand a "decent" lend phone i.e a brand new SGS2 (which they should have given you in the first place). If they refuse to play ball, make a scene in front of other customers. Get management involved. Threaten them with consumer affairs, etc.
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Turned out that the "loan phone" they gave me was a returned faulty phone from a previous customer. They gave it to me simply to shut me up!!! I came back the next morning and confronted them and they gave me a motorola defy loan phone????!!!!! I swear they will bend over backwards to avoid having to refund a phone. He asked another sales person why it was returned and was told that the phone was randomly powering down!!!!!! I asked them what happened regarding the previous customer and the store person said JB lost that claim and had to give in to the customers request(whatever that was). That gives me evidence that a refund at JB may exist?
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I have a similar issue
Hello, Im not sure if i am having the excact same issue, but this thread seemed similar to what im expereincing.
i bought a S2 6 days ago, reached into my pocket today to find my Display wont turn on.
did some standard stuff, power cycled.
removed the battery, soft and hard reset.
i got the screen to work for a second when i booted into download mode and it prompted to confirm this is what i wanted to do, but otherwsie the screen seems dead. when i power it on, nothing happenson the screen.
did i somehow like turn my brightness to 0? or like turn off the display?
i dunno i just upgraded from a Galaxy Spica, so im not super familiar with the handset yet.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
dpaterso said:
Hello, Im not sure if i am having the excact same issue, but this thread seemed similar to what im expereincing.
i bought a S2 6 days ago, reached into my pocket today to find my Display wont turn on.
did some standard stuff, power cycled.
removed the battery, soft and hard reset.
i got the screen to work for a second when i booted into download mode and it prompted to confirm this is what i wanted to do, but otherwsie the screen seems dead. when i power it on, nothing happenson the screen.
did i somehow like turn my brightness to 0? or like turn off the display?
i dunno i just upgraded from a Galaxy Spica, so im not super familiar with the handset yet.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
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if you can get into download mode, then flash stock fw using odin.. otherwise go to service center...
hope you have warranty..
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Working perfectly yesterday, dead this morning - I received it *exactly* 4 months ago. Put in on to charge last night and the green light was showing as normal this morning, but when I went to use it, well... Nothing. Tried all the usual: battery pull, other battery, connect to computer, get into recovery, jig, etc, etc..nothing apart from a stubbornly dead phone. After speaking to the retailer and to Samsung CS, I dropped it off at a service centre (thankfully there is a small one a mile up the road from where I live). It's on stock ICS but rooted and obviously I couldn't, erm let's say "tidy things up" so fingers crossed that it can be revived without them finding out
I am bit miffed right now to be honest (to put it nicely) as I have never had a phone die on me in the last 15 years. I did keep my S2 though so at least I have a phone to use in the meantime!
Hope my S3 won't do that to me.
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unlucky man, I wouldn't worry about the rooting issue, if its dead for you it will be dead for them as long as its not just the battery, they'll probably strip it for parts and bin the rest.
Hi all, overnight my phone is dead. Did with it during night. I can not start it, I can not do anything with it. It is only 4 and some day after purchase. What is going on?
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unlucky man, I wouldn't worry about the rooting issue, if its dead for you it will be dead for them as long as its not just the battery, they'll probably strip it for parts and bin the rest.
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Yeah, I'm *really* hoping it's properly dead... It's most definitely not the battery itself, at least that would have been easy to sort out!
I'm going to pitch in with a last resort tip that I have seen reported to work rarely, and is used also on hard drives.
Seal in plastic bag and in the freezer overnight, sounds ludicrous but always worth a try as a last ditch attempt for those without warranty!
Bought mine 2 weeks ago. Exactly 1 week later woke up stuck to the initial samsung galaxy sIII letters and nothing i'd do would make it past that. Had not rooted or done anything to the phone so i didn't even try anything, went to the store and got it replaced. It did reboot randomly a couple of time during that week.
In the store, they were the very definition of assholes about it, not peacefull at all and i was fully expecting it. They said they were doing me a favor by replacing it (i do know otherwise, according to the law they must replace it within 15-30 days of purchase, even if there's no reason), didn't want to replace the battery or the back cover. I agreed to stay with the back cover because acording to them "was scatched", although i swear to the best of my abilities i could not see anything but a very smooth surface on the back cover, so whatever. I did not agree to not having the battery replaced though. I asked the dude if he could prove my phone wasn't malfunctioning because of the battery and since he couldn't, he had no choice but to replace it after a few phone calls.
This was on a fnac store in Portugal, to whoever knows it. This is the same store that agreed to reimburse my money if i needed to return a laptop when i was buying it but lied to my face telling me they said nothing of the sort when i was actually returning it making me take credit in their stores instead for a value of about 1000 euros. I managed to get my money back through trading credits for money to friends who needed to buy stuff over 1 year but it says a lot about how much of a scumbag they can be.
The only reason i went to them is because they were the only store around on boat with the 30% discount campaign samsung did recently and i took the chance to get the phone 30% cheaper.
Nothing wrong with my new unit ever since.
Guys I owned a Galaxy SIII white GT-19300... had it for 3-4 months, bought it brand new. used really carefully, only had one or two falls that's it.
Finally it decided to crap all of a sudden like it had a silent heart attack, just a couple of hours ago. It wasn't charging or was in process of updating or anything. Just that I was sitting and having a sms conversation where in the middle it just won't budge at all. It just went completely pulseless.
These are the symptoms:
-No display
-Won't power up by any means
-No charging light
-No sign of booting up
What I tried:
-Hard reset
-Remove SIM and SD card, still no activity
-Swapped battery of working S3
What should be the next step?. Thankfully warranty period hasn't elapsed yet.
How should I approach now?. Will the warranty company replace the set or more likely create some unsolvable obstacles, like them assuming fall or label the phone rooted etc?
Thanks for your time
saadxe said:
Guys I owned a Galaxy SIII white GT-19300... had it for 3-4 months, bought it brand new. used really carefully, only had one or two falls that's it.
Finally it decided to crap all of a sudden like it had a silent heart attack, just a couple of hours ago. It wasn't charging or was in process of updating or anything. Just that I was sitting and having a sms conversation where in the middle it just won't budge at all. It just went completely pulseless.
These are the symptoms:
-No display
-Won't power up by any means
-No charging light
-No sign of booting up
What I tried:
-Hard reset
-Remove SIM and SD card, still no activity
-Swapped battery of working S3
What should be the next step?. Thankfully warranty period hasn't elapsed yet.
How should I approach now?. Will the warranty company replace the set or more likely create some unsolvable obstacles, like them assuming fall or label the phone rooted etc?
Thanks for your time
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Warrant may be void if its rooted or custom rom or modified status or rom counter above zero .
No way to reset those on a non booting phone .
Dropped damage incurred again who knows until they take the phone apart .
jje
JJEgan said:
Warrant may be void if its rooted or custom rom or modified status or rom counter above zero .
No way to reset those on a non booting phone .
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If the phone's truly hard-bricked, there's no way the service center would be able to discern that. Dead is dead.
Agreed, if the phone is truly dead no one in the sammy repair could able to detect that.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree, just because the power port has died, by no means means the memory/storage, or anything else for that matter really is down.. (not that it'll come up, just making a point)
it sounds like you really did everything right to troubleshoot it huh.. well let me just throw a few things out, you probably didnt, but hopefully did overlook..
the cord you're trying to charge it with, could it be not working/charging it?
have you tried another cord, or maybe even a USB cord? was it plugged in when it died? some low quality/defective cords can have some weird effects on phones, like less responsive digitizers, or even short out a phone
did you have any custom CPU settings? over/under clock/volt? had you played with you min/max CPU settings?
it doesn't turn on, did you determin this by seeing no display? seeing if there's any hapticfeedback, or even calling it from another phone and seeing if it rings on the callers side.
I know it seems silly but I'm just throwing out things from personal expirence ..
so now your phone really is dead, well having it under warrenty is great. having worked at an AT&T corporate retailer, I can tell you what happens on our side when you bring in a damaged phone.. well try it ourselves, well ask what happened, if you don't know well ask things like, 'did you drop it', 'or it was in contact with water'. (were actually required to ask, since these things aren't covered under warranty. which let me say, is so broken that we push the extended warranty on you, because it covers basically nothing.. we have a quota that says we need to sell X amount of a list of product/services each month.. but I digress).. anyway, once you tell us it just died out of nowhere we take your phone, put it in an envelope and ship it back to the manufacturer. in the mean time well offer you a loaner phone if you need one (just whatever we have on hand at the time, usually phones we get from trade-ins) (you keep your battery and sim) , and we put a 50 dollar hold on your card (yes on a creditcard, not your account) until your phone comes back in and we get our loaner phone. they'll send you a phone back to us, not yours, usually a refurbished version, then we call you and let you know your phones ready.
NEVER have I ever seen or heard anything ever of checking for root. most of our reps don't even know what that is.. once we submit a replacement form, the new phone is on transit to our shop usually by the next day (meaning they send out the replacement before they get the one we sent).
my advice is once you're sure the phone is dead, take it in to your retailer, tell them it died out of nowhere while you were texting, and it won't turn back on. you don't need to go into anymore detail than that..
clearly I have a problem with rambling this morning haha so ill stop talking there. if you have anymore questions tho, ill be happy to answer. goodluck!
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree, just because the power port has died, by no means means the memory/storage, or anything else for that matter really is down.. (not that it'll come up, just making a point)
it sounds like you really did everything right to troubleshoot it huh.. well let me just throw a few things out, you probably didnt, but hopefully did overlook..
the cord you're trying to charge it with, could it be not working/charging it?
have you tried another cord, or maybe even a USB cord? was it plugged in when it died? some low quality/defective cords can have some weird effects on phones, like less responsive digitizers, or even short out a phone
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Didn't mention it. I underwent much thoroughly then what I typed.. Yup tried 3 different cables, couple of chargers, usb cable.
And no it really wasn't plugged in. I really was expecting a sms at that time, when it took too long, I took it out from the pocket and voila DEAD!
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did you have any custom CPU settings? over/under clock/volt? had you played with you min/max CPU settings?
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No didn't.. was too scared to try that!
soraxd said:
it doesn't turn on, did you determin this by seeing no display? seeing if there's any hapticfeedback, or even calling it from another phone and seeing if it rings on the callers side.
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Tried everything you mentioned and even more then that!
yup lifeless like a brick.
** By the way an incidental finding found before claiming warranty. While having the battery in the phone. It was still warm. Removed it. Became cooler, upon reinstall, it became warm again. What gives??!
It's more like a phone in coma!
soraxd said:
I know it seems silly but I'm just throwing out things from personal expirence ..
so now your phone really is dead, well having it under warrenty is great. having worked at an AT&T corporate retailer, I can tell you what happens on our side when you bring in a damaged phone.. well try it ourselves, well ask what happened, if you don't know well ask things like, 'did you drop it', 'or it was in contact with water'. (were actually required to ask, since these things aren't covered under warranty. which let me say, is so broken that we push the extended warranty on you, because it covers basically nothing.. we have a quota that says we need to sell X amount of a list of product/services each month.. but I digress).. anyway, once you tell us it just died out of nowhere we take your phone, put it in an envelope and ship it back to the manufacturer. in the mean time well offer you a loaner phone if you need one (just whatever we have on hand at the time, usually phones we get from trade-ins) (you keep your battery and sim) , and we put a 50 dollar hold on your card (yes on a creditcard, not your account) until your phone comes back in and we get our loaner phone. they'll send you a phone back to us, not yours, usually a refurbished version, then we call you and let you know your phones ready.
NEVER have I ever seen or heard anything ever of checking for root. most of our reps don't even know what that is.. once we submit a replacement form, the new phone is on transit to our shop usually by the next day (meaning they send out the replacement before they get the one we sent).
my advice is once you're sure the phone is dead, take it in to your retailer, tell them it died out of nowhere while you were texting, and it won't turn back on. you don't need to go into anymore detail than that..
clearly I have a problem with rambling this morning haha so ill stop talking there. if you have anymore questions tho, ill be happy to answer. goodluck!
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Thanks for the detailed reply man, really appreciated. Especially since I was already trying to read the minds of these warranty dealers!
So just a while ago I gave it in for warranty. I was adamant of it going dead while I was doing an sms (although true!).. just said no to whatever cause they tried to find (wasn't any, honest!). They were pressing me though for the graze it got (a month ago).. I said 90% of the phones are scratched, and how many do die? He went okay we'll see then, 'yeah you are right we buy that, most that gets damaged from a fall is a phone with shattered screen!"'. Next question, the tricky one!. Did you modify/update software?
I was like, I keep my phones as stock and was totally acting alien to terms like 'rooting' 'firmware' 'kernel' etc (not being honest, but i'm sure that's not the cause)
He was like okay hand it over, we'll do the rest!
Hopefully they don't ever get to revive the mobo or i'm screwed for real!
my phone just died after flashing morfic A10 kernel. i am running stock rooted rom and the best part my sgs 3 was bought 11/18/12 from target, cant go to download mode, cant go to recovery i even tried adb recovery and download mode hoping to turn on nada, charge for an hour no led flashing. my sgs3 totally dead. called target and they said just bring it and they will replace it with new one if the phone wont turn on. is that mean i will be okay even my phone is rooted?
UPDATE:
Thank God.. got my SIII fixed in warranty, now it's back to life!
Just had a motherboard replacement, no further details given.
Hence kind of proven!:
if the phone is truly dead no one in the sammy repair could able to detect that.
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Last night my phone was working fine, when I went to bed it was charging and still working. When I woke up this morning the screen was black, with no response. I tried to get into recovery and download mode with no luck. I tries these steps to get into download mode except for the usb jjg The phone is rooted and a rom has been flashed, but I did that a couple of weeks back. I have no idea how this could have happened. Also when I plug it in to charge there is no response from the phone. The screen stays black no matter what I do.
Also about a week ago, I dropped my phone outside, it was in torrential rain over night. The next day when I found it, it booted up no problem and has been working perfectly until today.
Does anyone have any ideas or solutions?
I'd really appreciate any help,
Dillon
I'd faced the same issue once. In this state, even if the phone is connected for charging, all that happens is the phone becomes warm. I tried everything and the final solution was to get it replaced. My phone was covered under warranty.
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I'd faced the same issue once. In this state, even if the phone is connected for charging, all that happens is the phone becomes warm. I tried everything and the final solution was to get it replaced. My phone was covered under warranty.
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Unfortunately mine is not, I guess I could get a replacement motherboard then, are they easy to replace yourself?
The only replacement motherboard you'll be getting is a 2nd hand one; Samsung don't sell new motherboards (unless you're paying one of their service centres to replace it).
Given it was exposed to water 'overnight' & given it sounds like you used it immediately after water exposure (as opposed to immediately shutting the phone down, removing the battery & leaving it in a bag of rice for a week undisturbed), there's a fair chance even a motherboard replacement won't help if other components are damaged.
Water + electronics = unhappy ending.
Might want to start looking for another phone.
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The only replacement motherboard you'll be getting is a 2nd hand one; Samsung don't sell new motherboards (unless you're paying one of their service centres to replace it).
Given it was exposed to water 'overnight' & given it sounds like you used it immediately after water exposure (as opposed to immediately shutting the phone down, removing the battery & leaving it in a bag of rice for a week undisturbed), there's a fair chance even a motherboard replacement won't help if other components are damaged.
Water + electronics = unhappy ending.
Might want to start looking for another phone.
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Yeah I did use it straight away, not the smartest move I must admit. I guess I will, just annoying having to buy a new phone. Thanks for the info, and thanks for reminding me about the bag of rice, in case something like this happens to me again.
I was using my phone fine, I grabbed the phone 5 minutes after last using it to find it unresponsive with a red led light.
It was really hot so I thought it may have overheated but no. I Can't turn it on, can't fast boot or boot into recovery. The red light is just constantly on with screen off.if I hold the power button or try a recovery boot the red light goes off then comes on again. I've tried plugging it into the charger with no change, I think it was at 70% when it went unresponsive.
I can't find anything about this issue hence why I'm posting here, I'm pretty sure it's dead but hoping for some miracle as I'm on holiday and can't easily repair or replace.
I haven't rooted, rebranded or anything.
Unplug phone. Hold power and volume up for 15-20 seconds. Should get to recovery or at least bootloader
If not, repeat with power for about 30 second. Could be stuck in a dfu mode.
So im back from my holiday, took the phone into store for warranty claim. They are saying water damage. What a load of crap. Not a lot i can do about the situation so now im out of pocket $600.
Huawei, never again!
garvani said:
So im back from my holiday, took the phone into store for warranty claim. They are saying water damage. What a load of crap. Not a lot i can do about the situation so now im out of pocket $600.
Huawei, never again!
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If that's not true, then you should escalate the problem to Huawei's higher ranks. Or hammer them on twitter and other social.
Same issue
I got a brand new mate20 pro about three days ago and yesterday it went off for no reason. The phones screen has been off since, the red LED has been constantly on and the phone doesn't respond to anything. This seems to be some sort of factory defect, it kinda reminds me of the ring of death that the Xbox had a few years back. Is it fixable or must the phone be replaced?
garvani said:
So im back from my holiday, took the phone into store for warranty claim. They are saying water damage. What a load of crap. Not a lot i can do about the situation so now im out of pocket $600.
Huawei, never again!
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Most of authorized services say that water caused a problem just to void your warranty and try to sell you the new main board. I hate this, a lot of Samsung, Sony and Nokia phones have finished like this because of idiots in authorized service. If the phone is water/splash proof, problem is in manufacturing process and needs to be accepted by RMA. You can not trigger moisture indicators in these phones in normal circumstances.