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Is there a way to have the HR display stay on the face during a run or bike? If I'm on a hill I can't be messing with swiping so I just want to tap to turn it on then tap again for HR.
Some watch faces have the HR displayed all the time. Dont ask for the name of them because i cant remember but there are a few and maybe you should download the wear store app as it lists the watches insted of being unorganised like the play store
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Some watch faces have the HR displayed all the time. Dont ask for the name of them because i cant remember but there are a few and maybe you should download the wear store app as it lists the watches insted of being unorganised like the play store
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Thanks, I might give that a try. I went for a run yesterday and the HR was not very accurate when I was pounding on the road. On cool down it was fine. I'm assuming the jarring and arm movements were throwing it off. I really want it for biking and I'll try that later in the week. Once you start an activity it seems the HR will stay on along with your exercise stats but I'll find out more as the week progresses. One problem I see is it drained the watch battery from about 90% to 64% in an hour. If that's the case then I'll have to abandon the HR function on continuous basis, since a 4 hour ride would make the watch unusable, and simply track my activities with Strava. I'll play with it but it seems that this is more of a smart watch than fitness tracker. I actually bought it for fitness tracking and planned to return it if it didn't work as well as the about to be released Garmin Vivoactive HR band, but I since have fallen in love with the smart watch look and notifications features and will keep it no matter. Probably gonna cost me another $249 once the Garmin comes out but what the heck.
edit: I connected the Google Fit app and it's much better than the Moto Body. Battery drain not horrible during my gym workout today. Gave me HR readings every 5 while jumping rope and throughout the workout. I have to figure out how to stop the constant notifications once I reach my goal though. Still at 67% too after about 10 hours off charger.
So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
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So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
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I'll have a go answering your question
The Amazfit app has improved since last year, you can see data within the app e.g. step count, sleep quality (for what it's worth), heart rate etc... But that data is tied to the app since there is no web portal that you can access say on a PC.
The sync still remains with Strava only, I found that if you install the MiFit app from the Google Play Store you can sync the watch to that which can then export the data to Google Fit. Though I didn't really find the data in Google Fit to be all that great / useful for it to be worth my while having 3 different apps installed.
Another limitation I've found with the watch is that calorie count is not all day calories. It is some very odd "active" calorie count figure. That is to say, if you wear the watch and sit down all day doing nothing you will not see the calorie count figure increase as Fitbits or Garmin devices since Amazfit have not considered BMR in their calorie counting whatsoever.
If you start an activity or you walk all day your calorie count will increase. I guess you could treat the calorie figure as active calories...personally I was annoyed with it at first but realistically I don't count calorie intake, so why would I worry about calorie expenditure? I just use a watch face that doesn't show calories and forget about the usefulness of that metric.
My use case for the watch is primarily fitness based, always on screen and notifications. I'm happy with the always on screen and notifications. Fitness and general health leaves a lot to be desired though. In my experience the things I've noticed include:
* Sleep tracking is not great, it gets the times correct most nights, but I'm pretty much exclusively in light sleep mode. Maybe the watch is too sensitive or I trash around in my sleep, I don't know. I hardly look at this outside of seeing how many hours sleep I got.
* Calorie count not worth the hassle due to the above
* HR tracking is...well, I'm still not sure. Resting HR can have me a 50 bpm one minute, the next I'm at 90+ bpm while sitting at my desk. Other times it can go hours nailing a pretty good representation of HR as I'd expect. During exercise, don't expect weight training to be anywhere near accurate (this is true for most optical HR sensors), running workouts do have drops where I could be at 150 or 160bpm one second then <120bpm the next but the trend seems to be correct most times.
* GPS might not be as accurate as some other running watching, but does exactly what I want. I've not noticed any major drift or drop outs in GPS, just make sure to wait for the GPS lock before starting your activity.
With all that said it might sound like I dont like the watch. But I think even with these issues I'd buy it again. Mainly because it was cheap (compared to rival products), offers most day to day benefits i wanted (notifications, always on display, several days battery life), it also has GPS and exports to the exercise tool I use.
To try and make the fitness aspect a bit more appealing for me what I've started doing is running with a second hand vivofit 3 in my pocket reading HR from a strap and use the Amazfit for GPS. When I get home I've written a script to replace the Amazfit HR with the Garmin HR and upload that to Strava. Works well, allows me to keep Cadence, GPS info and get a more accurate HR reading. I could use this setup for weight training as well, but realistically I'll never be HR zone training during a weight workout so as long as the Amazfit can upload workout time to Strava I don't care about that data.
I open this post because I haven't been able to find any review or opinion about one of the functionalities that offers Stratos: Skiing.
Has anyone try it and can share his or her experiencie?
I am interested mainly if it is able to dismiss the skilifts automatically on Alpine ski.
I assume it can measure speed, hear rate, and the other normal variables that are shared with running.
Any experience?
As well I am interested to know if for long multi-day hiking trips the battery would resist with the GPS active? (like 12hours sport tracking?)
In general, it would be good to know the tracking difference between one sports mode or the others
Last weekend I just made a long hike and starting with full battery and with GPS on of course, it recorded all my 11 hours hike. At the end, the battery was at 12%
I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
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I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
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What about the readings on altitude? Looks pretty inaccurate in the reviews and it's a very important metric when hiking.
Does anyone else have any feedback on the "Skiing" mode please? I am also interested in this mode, and whether it automatically detects travel on the ski lift. Thanks.
Stratos skiing mode
Just used my stratos for a couple of days skiing and am pretty disappointed in the results. Firstly the altitude readings are pretty inaccurate, out by more than 10% in some cases. Amizfit support responded with the following "The altitude error is greatly affected by the environment.
Due to environmental factors, the error may reach tens of meters or even hundreds of meters." So even though this is a metric that is important to skiing dosn't look like it can be improved.
Secondly, yes it looks like the watch does stop recording during lift travel and start again during a downhill run. This is what I noticed when I looked at my tracks. There was the odd lift travel that may have been a bit downhill that got recorded as a lap but most of the laps were actual runs. I even looked at my watch at the end of a run/lap and noticed that it recorded the downhill distance and descent for that lap. When I started riding the lift these results cleared and the watch was ready for the next run/lap. So this is were the good news stops. Even though I was under the impression that the watch was recording all this great individual lap information when I tried to see my results in the evening on my phone app most of my metrics were all combined into totals. For example total laps, total downhill km, total descent and total time. The only metrics listed per lap/run is max speed which is good and the time each lap ended, which is useless becuase it includeds lift waiting and riding time.
It is sad as I believe the watch has been designed and is capable of gathering detailed information but the phone apps inability to present this information totally ruins a potentialy good product. At the moment I would not recommend this watch for skiing. Go back to using your phone and any of several free ski tracking apps.
Many thanks for the detailed feedback. I used the Skiing mode on my Pace a few months ago and found it almost useless because it didn't detect travel on the skl iift and treated it as part of the ski run, thus totally ruining the data it collected.
So it meant I had to take my glove off to manually start and stop the Pace (since it doesn't have buttons like the Stratos), which of course means digging under the sleeve of your ski jacket and fleece, and then adjusting the clothes back. Doing this at the start and stop of every run is a big hassle when you're with a group of people. It's not worth it.
I don't think I checked the altitude accuracy, so I can't comment on that. I also couldn't work out how to use the 'lap' function. It treated every run I did as the first lap, even if it was a repeat run on the same slope.
Amazfit still doesn't seem to have any instructions for this mode.
I bought a Stratos to replace my amazfit bip and playing soccer, my stratos show around 185 bpm. It's impossible such reading. My old bip never showed more than 150 bpm (using treadmill as activity).
Is this sensor so bad? Can be improved in future updates?
As test I compared it to my fitbit and garmin and al readings are quite the same in workout and rest/sleep.
If I have a sprint or Hiit training my heart rate can spike to 190bpm. So 185 is possible depending on your workout.
Make sure your watch has the latest firmware, reset its data (factory reset then do not restore old data when pairing again) and use continuous HR for at least 24h and it should works a little better. Unfortunately the PPG sensor used in both Pace and Stratos isn't the best one around...
Hi Vogal , I'm experiencing the same as you.
I had a Bip for a year and a half. In the beginning HR was always 20 beats too low. If I wore in on the inside of my wrist, it was almost perfect.
I recieved my Stratos yesterday, it updated itself 3 times, even to the latest 2.3.8 that was released yesterday. I unpaired, rebooted, repaired, but didn't factory reset. HR is ALSO 20-30 beats to high. When standing still, measurement is perfect. But when moving, it's awful. On both watches.
Did you do a factory reset? Did it help?
My stratos HR works fine in spinning and elliptical machine. I compared it with another hr monitor with chest strap and both show very similar values. The problem is in outdoor activity like MTB. Here the stratos seems not realize about peaks of exercise and It always shows moderate values below 150 when the chest strap gives me values over 165. I tried tighting it more and different positions on my wrist but without any read improvement.
People, Pace/Stratos/Verge use a PPG sensor, it will never be accurate if you move your wrist/arm a lot, it is specially true when riding a bike... If HR accuracy is needed, use an external HR band.
The problem isnt the Stratos
Vogal said:
I bought a Stratos to replace my amazfit bip and playing soccer, my stratos show around 185 bpm. It's impossible such reading. My old bip never showed more than 150 bpm (using treadmill as activity).
Is this sensor so bad? Can be improved in future updates?
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The problem isnt the Stratos, its de Bip. I had one and never gave me the same value of the HR mesure of the running machine, also I tried with an Apple watch in other wirst and both, the running machine (also the eliptical) and the apple show me the same HR but the Bip was allways 30-40 beats lower
Hi,
I have a Stratos 3 and was expecting a better GPS Accuracy.
Have recently updated it to 4.2.2.1 and it improved but it still takes take some time to lock signal.
Also, after a few experiences, I have noticed that if you start the activity immediately after locking signal the first few minutes will be inaccurate and it is better to wait a few minutes.
Any experiences from anyone else?
What pair are you using?
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Hi,
I have a Stratos 3 and was expecting a better GPS Accuracy.
Have recently updated it to 4.2.2.1 and it improved but it still takes take some time to lock signal.
Also, after a few experiences, I have noticed that if you start the activity immediately after locking signal the first few minutes will be inaccurate and it is better to wait a few minutes.
Any experiences from anyone else?
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Same here - I had the first Stratos and finding GPS signal was quite a bit faster than on the new one. Hope they'll do something to improve it. Though, considering what have they done with the Amazfit app, I'm not very optimistic...
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I have tried GPS + GLONASS and GPS + Galileu so far.
Galileu was accurate after the first 5 minutes only.
i'm expecting the same with my Stratos 3: GPS+ Galileo if start activity immediatly after GPS Fix it needs some minutes more to be accruate (5 min) but after it's perfect (i'm cycling in forest)
I did not try GPS+GLONASS for the moment will do it next time to see if it's better for initial fix and if tracking accruacy is as good as GALILEO
Gps and heart sensor
Hi, I sold my gtr because gps didnt work, I thinking I a Stratos 3, What Is it The heart sensor accuracy?
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I have tried GPS + GLONASS and GPS + Galileu so far.
Galileu was accurate after the first 5 minutes only.
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Nobru_12345 said:
Hi, I sold my gtr because gps didnt work, I thinking I a Stratos 3, What Is it The heart sensor accuracy?
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the HR sensor is exactly the same so you know it!
Tks for reply... I think that we need to considering the sw factor as well....
Sad to hear that, I'm using a Pace and thought Stratos 3 as a improvement over GPS accuracy and Heart rate.
Pace is a mixed bag, sometimes it's very good but, even in open areas, sometimes the accuracy show my position on the other side of the street.
Often I experience inaccurate position on the first minutes also.
Let's hope for a software update to increase reliability.
Stratos 3 uses the new HR sensor used in both Verge and GTR/GTS, so it should behave the same. It's a bit bigger and should work better than the ones from Pace and the original Stratos, as it does if I compare my Verge with them. Just don't expect it to be perfect, as any other PPG (optical) sensor.
The same issue with Pace and Stratos (v1). You should always wait 2-5 minutes at the green Go screen before starting activity recording. Also, with Pace, I used to run with Airplane mode for better accuracy, but it looks like in current versions it makes no difference (better accuracy in both cases than early). That way you can avoid GPS inaccuracy. My Stratos 3 is on the way.
Are you on latest firmware? I had mine for a week and updated it the first day. GPS is very good and fixes fast (I returned the GTR because of the GPS being so bad). Maybe your issue could be location related? Like AGPS data related?
@Paxy
Weird. I'm a new Stratos 3 user.
I have no accuracy issue with the GPS (Glonass) and the fix is done in less than 30 sec. Unlike the GTR, I sent back whose GPS was a deep sh.t.
I made 8 cycle workout and it worked very well. I leave near Paris there is buildings (not too high) around me during my
sessions and the recorded track is very good.
hercule18 said:
@Paxy
Weird. I'm a new Stratos 3 user.
I have no accuracy issue with the GPS (Glonass) and the fix is done in less than 30 sec. Unlike the GTR, I sent back whose GPS was a deep sh.t.
I made 8 cycle workout and it worked very well. I leave near Paris there is buildings (not too high) around me during my
sessions and the recorded track is very good.
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Can you, please, post an example, I'm thinking on ditching the GTR and considering a Stratos 3(which should actually be 2, because the first one was called Pace)?
Thanks!
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Can you, please, post an example, I'm thinking on ditching the GTR and considering a Stratos 3(which should actually be 2, because the first one was called Pace)?
Thanks!
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Hi here is 2 run one with GTR and one with Stratos, there is NO comparison.
In orange, the trace recorded by both watch and under you'll find the covered distance which totally approximate on the GTR as most of the run was not receorded.
stratos3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/UExKHU5qT9w59WKc9
gtr https://photos.app.goo.gl/HXJLT7ddJEw9HLg56
My review: stratos 3 Vs GTR pictures explains everything
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Hi here is 2 run one with GTR and one with Stratos, there is NO comparison.
In orange, the trace recorded by both watch and under you'll find the covered distance which totally approximate on the GTR as most of the run was not receorded.
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Thanks for taking the time to post these.
Seems pretty accurate. Have you checked through google maps to see if the distance is accurate? Is this the route: https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/48.8...0x47e67b314410fbbb:0x21dd71e67173a3e0!1m0!3e1 ?
@winni21 That's how my GTR cuts corners as well. Stratos 3 seems very good.
Now I'm pretty sure the GTR has faulty hardware for GPS (frame used as shared antenna with bluetooth), since they both have the same gps chipset and will never get fixed through software update.
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Thanks for taking the time to post these.
Seems pretty accurate. Have you checked through google maps to see if the distance is accurate? Is this the route: https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/48.8...0x47e67b314410fbbb:0x21dd71e67173a3e0!1m0!3e1 ?
@winni21 That's how my GTR cuts corners as well. Stratos 3 seems very good.
Now I'm pretty sure the GTR has faulty hardware for GPS (frame used as shared antenna with bluetooth), since they both have the same gps chipset and will never get fixed through software update.
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Compared to Google Maps, the given distance by the Stratos is pretty accurate as I have 9.53km for stratos and 9.6 for GMAPS.
But on my road I have to go in a tunnel for few meters and the GPS signal is lost at this time. On this section the Stratos show a straight line and google map a nice curve. The curve is around 200m, so this part explain partially the 70m missing on the Stratos.
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Can you, please, post an example, I'm thinking on ditching the GTR and considering a Stratos 3(which should actually be 2, because the first one was called Pace)?
Thanks!
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You are wrong. There is the Pace and there is Stratos (in China called SportWatch 2). There is no Stratos2 and Pace is not Stratos1.
My Stratos3 just arrived. It has fast GPS fix, but haven't tested accuracy yet.
I will compare it's accuracy against Pace soon.
BTW. Huami declares only Pace, Stratos and Stratos3 as sport watches. GTR,GTS,Verge etc are just smart watches without GPS in the focus of development.
There is also Stratos+ on Amazfit official web. The problem with the naming comes from resellers giving different names like Startos 2S or Pace 2.
But indeed there are 3 generations of the Amazfit Sports watch (Pace, Stratos/Stratos+ and Startos 3)