Hi all!
Shown is an unfortunate issue I've had with the displays of two 1 IV's (US/512Gb models):
(just uploaded this as of posting so the higher res may still be encoding)
I use my phone frequently at night and the display is noticeably off/blown out/seemingly defective at lower brightnesses, especially in the evening. I've already been through the exchange process once for this problem and it took weeks, luckily I caught it in the return window. Now I'm deciding whether to try yet another exchange or just return the new one, because sadly this issue is a deal breaker for me.
Please let me know if you're experiencing the same issue so I can determine whether or not I want to gamble my time with another one of these, as I strongly suspect/fear this could be a widespread hardware defect that has gone relatively unnoticed. Either that, or I got two phones from a clearly bad batch.
Link to image shown in video if you'd like to see if yours has the issue.
You can see the problem best in scenes with very dark color gradients, mostly in the very black range. Most of the time it's not exactly easy to notice especially if you're not looking for it. The display looks flawless and brilliant at 90% and above, although interestingly "creative mode" also seems to degrade color quality. I had an Xperia 1 II before this and creative mode didn't have that perceived negative effect at all. In fact I had exactly 0 of these issues on my mark II.
60/120fps, HDR, etc all don't seem to change the issue, nor did a factory reset or the Xperia Companion app as suggested by Sony. I'm going to escalate me case with them tomorrow to see if I can get any more info. Found another thread about the issue/similar issues.
Sorry about the novel. I'm kinda sad about this whole thing because I otherwise absolutely love the phone.
Yup everybody has this issue. I'm convinced people who say they don't have it are just too blind to notice. I've not seen any video of a 1IV that shows a screen that doesn't have the issue. I always just keep my screen at 90% brightness and just the "Extra dim" quick toggle to make it less bright. If I'm in bed on my phone I use OLED Saver to make it even darker.
Well, I can't see that on mine.
Maybe not the best example, but this is a picture I took this summer, one is at max brightness and the other one is at some 60%. Tried with some other darker photos I have and no traces of that green tint.
Also, my phone switches to dark theme at night and with automatic brightness it certainly goes way below 90% and still everything looks black. Or at least not that obviously green.
...You realise that's not how a screenshot works, right?
Yeah, was just an example photo. But cannot reproduce that. Found topic on reddit, gonna try some HDR stuff but have to say that if that's what triggers it than will certainly never have the problem with it.
Just borrow a mate's phone and film your screen while you adjust the brightness above and below 90%. The difference is very obvious.
Then it should be obvious to my eyes also, like in his video. And that does not happening on the above photo. Anyway, gong back home tomorrow so will play with it a bit more.
No issues on my rooted device.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
kirbygonzalo said:
Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
sdk16420 said:
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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check softpedia also
I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
I open a thread 3 days ago and I asked if the Prime is worth buying. Most of the people said to wait until it gets updates and the issue are fixed. As far as I saw in the last 3 days, a lot of updates and improvements have done by Asus, but because this forums is rapidly updating its hard to follow all the reviews. So, what was fixed? What issues still there?
And, I shouldnt have any issues with fixing the device, if needed, here in Israel. I talk to representative of Asus here, and as long as I have international warranty I can fix it.
Thank you.
Nothing was really fixed... GPS got swept under the carpet (forces you to automatically use wifi location and then pretends its just the GPS), touch is now responsive. The auto image quality (brightness/contrast/dynamic color) has been taken out leaving you with a poor contrast and washed out look.
Before this update the auto image quality would adjust brightness, contrast and colors according to each mode (power saving, balanced and normal). When it was in power saving mode it would have poor contrast and washed out colors, when in balanced mode or normal it would give sharp images with vivid colors.
Since the update you only get what was previously in the low power mode... Poor contrast and washed out colors no matter which mode your in.
Most user have just received their primes and may not notice the difference but if you compare it to any other android device, even your phone you will notice the washed out and poor contrast of the screen.
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Before this update the auto image quality would adjust brightness, contrast and colors according to each mode (power saving, balanced and normal). When it was in power saving mode it would have poor contrast and washed out colors, when in balanced mode or normal it would give sharp images with vivid colors.
Since the update you only get what was previously in the low power mode... Poor contrast and washed out colors no matter which mode your in.
Most user have just received their primes and may not notice the difference but if you compare it to any other android device, even your phone you will notice the washed out and poor contrast of the screen.
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FWIW I haven't noticed this at all.
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Since the update you only get what was previously in the low power mode... Poor contrast and washed out colors no matter which mode your in.
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That's not true in my device after update.
jzen said:
The auto image quality (brightness/contrast/dynamic color) has been taken out leaving you with a poor contrast and washed out look.
Before this update the auto image quality would adjust brightness, contrast and colors according to each mode (power saving, balanced and normal). When it was in power saving mode it would have poor contrast and washed out colors, when in balanced mode or normal it would give sharp images with vivid colors.
Since the update you only get what was previously in the low power mode... Poor contrast and washed out colors no matter which mode your in.
Most user have just received their primes and may not notice the difference but if you compare it to any other android device, even your phone you will notice the washed out and poor contrast of the screen.
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Is there a thread about it that discusses this? With pictures and other details? Since the screen contrast and colors are what reviews praised, now you're saying they are gone?
EDIT: Found the thread
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Is there a thread about it that discusses this? With pictures and other details? Since the screen contrast and colors are what reviews praised, now you're saying they are gone?
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The screen is awesome. I watched rise of the planet of the apes today and it is crystal clear
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For the most part, you will only see posts on here with people asking questions about things that are wrong or that they have a concerns about. This is not a representative sample of the general population by any means. Watch how fast a post that says "wow, my Prime is perfect" falls quickly off the first page - it's not a big discussion, there is not much to trouble shoot.
If you are at all concerned, then I would ask if you are able to return it if you don't like it? If so, then I would definitively go for it. The Prime is beautiful, its display is gorgeous. I was always confident Asus would fix the issues that have come up in the 2 short weeks since it's release (you can check my posts and see I've always said that), but lots are very very impatient. so much so they returned theirs to Asus to get fixed and are now sitting there with nothing while the rest of us sit here with updated Primes working just fine. I still think we'll go through some growing pains as Ice Cream Sandwich gets released and things get tweaked, but I expected that when I bought into the tablet.
No one can answer the question for you. I am not trying to say yes or no. You mentioned a warranty and I wondered about a return policy - thinking along those lines I think you are covered if you do get it and are not pleased or have any problems.
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For the most part, you will only see posts on here with people asking questions about things that are wrong or that they have a concerns about. This is not a representative sample of the general population by any means. Watch how fast a post that says "wow, my Prime is perfect" falls quickly off the first page - it's not a big discussion, there is not much to trouble shoot.
If you are at all concerned, then I would ask if you are able to return it if you don't like it? If so, then I would definitively go for it. The Prime is beautiful, its display is gorgeous. I was always confident Asus would fix the issues that have come up in the 2 short weeks since it's release (you can check my posts and see I've always said that), but lots are very very impatient. so much so they returned theirs to Asus to get fixed and are now sitting there with nothing while the rest of us sit here with updated Primes working just fine. I still think we'll go through some growing pains as Ice Cream Sandwich gets released and things get tweaked, but I expected that when I bought into the tablet.
No one can answer the question for you. I am not trying to say yes or no. You mentioned a warranty and I wondered about a return policy - thinking along those lines I think you are covered if you do get it and are not pleased or have any problems.
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I totally agree, thats the "problem" with 95% of the online posts: People only post something when they're having a problem!
I dont know how it is in other countries, but from Amazon Germany you get a 30-day return policy with no questions asked (legally its only 2 weeks). This is more than enough to determine if you are happy with the device!
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Is there a thread about it that discusses this? With pictures and other details? Since the screen contrast and colors are what reviews praised, now you're saying they are gone?
EDIT: Found the thread
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this is not true. Jzen is only partially correct. they did do away with the instant contrast and detail drop from before when switching to powersavings mode. BUT it is not now stuck in poor image quality mode. you can easily tell this by just looking icons. before the icons took a dramatic hit in loss of contrast or details. now it just looks like no matter what mode you in, you have a Normal looking screen. which is great. also saying that now cutting on super ips+ makes colors pop is not a fair comparison. before or after update super ips+ does this anyways because the increase in brightness is so dramatic.
if you want to read about the before update contrast drop in powersavings mode, go a few pages back and read the "Different Performance Modes of Prime/Tegra3" thread I created during first week or so of release. I was the first one to point out the difference.
but to clear up the rumour as others are not seeing the change also, It Is Not Stuck In Poor Quality Mode..lmfao. Jzen is funny.
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For the most part, you will only see posts on here with people asking questions about things that are wrong or that they have a concerns about. This is not a representative sample of the general population by any means. Watch how fast a post that says "wow, my Prime is perfect" falls quickly off the first page - it's not a big discussion, there is not much to trouble shoot.
If you are at all concerned, then I would ask if you are able to return it if you don't like it? If so, then I would definitively go for it. The Prime is beautiful, its display is gorgeous. I was always confident Asus would fix the issues that have come up in the 2 short weeks since it's release (you can check my posts and see I've always said that), but lots are very very impatient. so much so they returned theirs to Asus to get fixed and are now sitting there with nothing while the rest of us sit here with updated Primes working just fine. I still think we'll go through some growing pains as Ice Cream Sandwich gets released and things get tweaked, but I expected that when I bought into the tablet.
No one can answer the question for you. I am not trying to say yes or no. You mentioned a warranty and I wondered about a return policy - thinking along those lines I think you are covered if you do get it and are not pleased or have any problems.
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I totally agree, thats the "problem" with 95% of the online posts: People only post something when they're having a problem!
I dont know how it is in other countries, but from Amazon Germany you get a 30-day return policy with no questions asked (legally its only 2 weeks). This is more than enough to determine if you are happy with the device!
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This is all so true and kinda sad really. people always trying to find the negatives in things. I can see if it was true or something but its not. he was only partially correct and then twisted the whole thing..lmfao. lien you said anything good about Prime gets pushed to the bottom, all people interested in is any so called flaws or defaults. this will change though. as more n more people are noticing this and calling others out on pessimistic views all the time. plus he has no concrete proof of the accusation of being stuck in permanent poor quality. As the people in numbers have spoken, Display still looks great. and whatever they did seems to have increased battery life even more. super ips+ mode only meant to be used outdoors to overpower the sunlight glare on screen. anyone using that mode indoors must be blind..lmfao even regular brightness is too bright. regular brightness is brighter than any other tablet or phone out. then super ips+ brightness just takes off and leaves any other display in the dust in brightness
While messing around with my phone, I noticed that in certain conditions, using the camera would result in the middle of the image being saturated and the periphery desaturated.
It was a subtle effect that I only observed because I was on my couch playing with my phone. Did anyone else notice this same effect? I tried it out with another smartphone (HTC Sensation) and it did a similar thing.
Looks like it is infrared spillover. Try covering the flash on the back and see if it produces the same photo. It is probably used to focus the camera.
Happens to me too. I able to reduce it by shooting the pictures by taping the screens and saturation levels at normal. Avoid shooting white photos right after shooting a heavily saturated photo.
I think that's an HTC thing. The HD2 had it pretty bad, but was lessened with a hotfix. My TouchPro has that too. Suprised to still see that on their latest devices.
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While messing around with my phone, I noticed that in certain conditions, using the camera would result in the middle of the image being saturated and the periphery desaturated.
It was a subtle effect that I only observed because I was on my couch playing with my phone. Did anyone else notice this same effect? I tried it out with another smartphone (HTC Sensation) and it did a similar thing.
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Hi, I never see this on my Radar? You said in certain condition, you can reproduce it. Would you mind to tell me how do you do it? Cheers
It's a software issue - HTC had the same troubles with the HTC HD2 and the HTC HD7 - both were remedied with a firmware update. On both phones it showed up as a pink blotch too.
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Hi, I never see this on my Radar? You said in certain condition, you can reproduce it. Would you mind to tell me how do you do it? Cheers
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Sorry for the late reply, I thought the thread had run its course and I usually don't check the forums.
Anyways, I really only notice it while looking at a white wall illuminated by strong incandescent lighting, though I haven't tried it in a variety of other settings yet. I noticed it by chance really, while I was sitting on the couch playing with the camera settings. In normal day to day settings I never notice it.
Judging by the other responses here, I suppose I'm not alone, but the effect really doesn't bother me much. Also as others have noted, it seems to be related to an HTC bug.
Even I experience the same problem on my Radar. I rebooted the phone a few times but the pink blotch still showed up. It's not showing up since last few days but comes once in a while. I hope HTC fixes this issue in the next update.
There are a few threads out there that have touched on this issue but none as far as I can see that deal with it directly.
The problem comes when you display a pure black screen in low light conditions. It shows that the AMOLED screen is actually grey / blotchy / cloudy instead of being pure black. Initially I thought mine had fingerprints or smudge marks on it, until I realised they were behind the screen. I guess I might have got a phone with a screen that was replaced, but the amount of people who have also reported a similar issue leads me to believe that it might be a manufacturing default? The blotches / clouds on the screen dont change, but exhibit a random formation as one would expect from a defect. It is also possible to see a very faint outline of light running along 3 edges of the screen.
Naturally this is a situation that doesnt reveal itself very often. But I as I use my phone a lot at night, especially reading ebooks or watching films, you start to notice it more and more where you have large expanses of empty black screen.
What I would like to know is how many people have got screens that exhibit this behaviour and how many of you have sent them in for service or had them replaced?
Is it a common issue and something that is to be expected from this type of screen?
You can test if yours has this problem using 'Screen Test' (its free) from the market place. It cycles through solid colours and patterns every time you touch the screen.
Just do it in bed with all the lights out P), give your eyes a few seconds to adjust and see what your screen looks like displaying pure black.
I'm very interested in everyone's experiences and any input or information you have.
Thanks everyone in advance!
ps: I came from a ZTE blade (OLED) which has a uniformly dark grey background when displaying pure black. I kinda expect this as it is a budget phone (albeit with a better than budget screen), but I didnt expect the SGS2 to be quite as bad.
Use "screen adjuster" from the market and set contrast to -60
i have never seen this black low light screen defect. but i am asking you people if any of you have noticed that ugly blurry shadows which are perfectly visible with low light, on white backgrounds especially. they look like marks above the actual display and make high quality images look like low resolution.. it is annoying as hell..
I have this. Noticed it one night when my phone was switched off and charging.
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I also have this, noticed the first evening i used the phone...you can notice this during the screen wake delay, or when in a call if you cover then uncover the proximity sensor...don't know if it's a defect but sure it bugs me, i know many won't notice it and will say they don't have this...i will add that if u look carefully to the screen dimmed at lowest brightness in a low light (buy not dark) environment, like early morning, you'll see some "interferences" behind the image, also the darker/yellower left half screen is still visible in these conditions
These things shouldn't be there in a 500€ phone
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Thanks for the feedback already.
@elmerendeiro: I have also noticed some 'interference' lines on my phone from time to time. I did a bit of research and it seems when your phone's brightness is set around 25 - 30% it picks up interference from either the wifi or 3g radio. Notch the brightness either above or below this level and you wont see it anymore.
I agree with you when you say we shouldn't be having these problems on such an expensive phone.
It bugs me too - if it wasnt for this i'd have to say it would be an amazing phone
Might give the Samsung service center a call and see if its something they're aware of and if they are replacing screens with this problem?
Some time ago I noticed that, in some very special situations, like under direct and strong artificial/sun light and a particular angle, I'm able to see a couple of small, very faint spots, kinda similar to those left by dried moisture (like a drop of water) underneath the screen. At first I though it was my bad for putting on a wet screen protector, but just the other day I had a look at the device of a friend of mine (no protector wahtsoever), and looking closely I found similar spots, just not two but a single and bigger one. This got me a bit puzzled, so I decided to take a look at a third device, this time a demo unit in a shop, and guess what? Also that one had a similar mark right in the middle of the screen.
Now, not that this bothers me much, since you can't actually see it unless you really try (I can't even catch it with a camera), but I'd love to know from you guys if this is a common "flaw" or I just happened to grab a "flawed" handful of devices...
Yup, I have these dark patches. You can see them sometimes if you look at a particular angle when the phone is booting up. I can't see them any other time though
I can see dark patches when the screen is dimmed, especially at night, I can't see it any other times, Nokia returned it to me because they couldn't see it. So they asked to send it in again, it took them ten days to just flash a ROM....I was pissed as it is.
When the Display is off I can sometimes see some "blacker" areas on the screen. According to Nokia These are splices where the glass is somehow glued to the display.
Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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I still would class it as a fault, it makes my eyes burn.
Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Yeah that's it, the good old light leak
Anyway the picture you took being overexposed gives the impression of a huge issue, so I guess they replaced the screen right after looking at that, even tho in normal darkness conditions it's definitely not so annoying. Good for you that you managed to get it replaced anyway
lol a 30 second exposure will bring out the worst of the display. I can understand they replaced it after showing that image that sort of tricks them because it will never be even close to that visible to the naked eye.
Completely normal for AMOLED displays.