What specs should I look for when looking for a 3rd party fast charger for the S23?
Just go for a Samsung brick/cable. The 25w ones are cheap and reliable.
If Samsung hadn't gotten so chintzy they still ship a complete phone set. Is that too much to ask for in a $1G flagship phone?
Samsung sucks now... more money, less perks.
Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
blackhawk said:
^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
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I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
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Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
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I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
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My 10 yo Dell laptop has that battery charge isolation feature. It's nice to have.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
I would make sure your charger has USB-PD with PPS. And that the PPS range it at least 12V at 5A. Most chargers limit the current in PPS mode at 3A. If the charger listing does not show the specs, try looking for "Samsung 45W", that seems to be the layman's term.
You may also need a 5A cable, a small chip in the cable telling the devices that it is capable of carrying up to 5A current.
Jaxom84 said:
The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
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Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
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Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
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And I ordered a Spigen PowerArc ArcStation Pro that just came by (I'm slowly replacing the old chargers for GaN ones), and it also is compatible with 45W charging.
For 25,49€, it fills the needs perfectly (smaller than the 1+9 brick, power efficient, more affordable).
I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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It's always a tight decision between Anker and Spigen, but recently I've been increasingly going for Spigen. The build quality is getting my favours, and they also have the "Designed for Samsung" label on an increasing number of products, which is guaranteeing that the quality is controlled and approved by our Korean friends. And as they're falling in the same price range for most of their products, if I'm buying stuff to pair with a Samsung device, then Spigen is my go to.
I've also been trying some Baseus products (docking station and USB cables), they're quite good in that segment of products too.
The handy size of the Anker done it for me
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I'm an idiot, I left my charger at work. Is there another compatible charger I can buy or do I have to drop $35 for the turbocharger from Motorola ( I know any mini USB charger will work but I don't wanna wait 5 hours.)
Yeah there's a good amount now, just look for Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 compatibility. I have the Tenergy one that was cheap and works great.
Tenergy - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OVD3FEU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_DHznvb0DA4SX4
Aukey - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QEX83LA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_IJznvb0BZTR1Z
Anker - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q88Q16K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_FKznvb0TDG6A1
Hope this helps!
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Tenergy - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OVD3FEU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_DHznvb0DA4SX4
Aukey - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QEX83LA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_IJznvb0BZTR1Z
Anker - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q88Q16K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_FKznvb0TDG6A1
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I'm gonna have to :good::good::good: this one because I agree, those are all great options. I like the look of the Aukey personally, almost looks like a matte finish around it! Really it all falls into reviews/looks/cost
They are all great alternatives and don't look to be quite so blockish as the motorola one is
I got this since I also wanted to get a car charger...$25 for the pair, multiple ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Essenti...&ie=UTF8&qid=1429579164&sr=1-2&keywords=onite
Haha, I would post a sign at work with a picture of the charter that reads "whoever took my charger is in for a big surprise in a week when their battery explodes from too much power". We know that's BS but it may scare the office thief into bringing it back
that's lame of people to take your charger. Where do you work if you don't mind me asking? Or the type of work you do?
Someone recently took my charger come to think of it. 4 port wall plug from monoprice. It's a great work horse.
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Yeah there's a good amount now, just look for Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 compatibility. I have the Tenergy one that was cheap and works great.
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Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
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Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
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Yupp same technology. Qualcomm lists them as compatible on their website so you know they've been truly certified.
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that's lame of people to take your charger. Where do you work if you don't mind me asking? Or the type of work you do?
Someone recently took my charger come to think of it. 4 port wall plug from monoprice. It's a great work horse.
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Yeah, it really sucks. They have tactical security (read: dudes with guns) where I work, so I am guessing the janitorial staff would think twice, lol.
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Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
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Ordered one off Amazon works great. Same charge speed as well.
I'm a firm believer in Anker products. I now buy only Anker chargers and cables. They have Smart IQ, which automatically adjusts amperage based on what the device can accept, so you will always get the max charge. They always get close to 5 stars on Amazon. Actually, they are the highest rated chargers you can get.
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I'm a firm believer in Anker products. I now buy only Anker chargers and cables. They have Smart IQ, which automatically adjusts amperage based on what the device can accept, so you will always get the max charge. They always get close to 5 stars on Amazon. Actually, they are the highest rated chargers you can get.
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The Anker portable batteries and chargers I have aren't Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified, and won't charge as quickly as the phone is capable. Search Amazon for certified chargers.
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The Anker portable batteries and chargers I have aren't Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified, and won't charge as quickly as the phone is capable. Search Amazon for certified chargers.
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If you want to use quick charger that's fine with me. My anker charger is pretty quick as is. I've heard that quick charging may eventually hurt battery life in the long run, so I choose not to use it. I don't need quick charge because I don't even use my phone a whole lot to begin with and rarely go below 60%. Plus, I have a charger handy wherever I am. (car/work/home/portable charger)
I have the Qualcomm one off of Amazon and I honestly believe that it charges quicker.
Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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...wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc.
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I prefer wireless charging for my N4 and N6.
I am using cheap QI-chargers on several places. The QI-pads can be used with almost any USB charger. Of course wireless charging is slow.
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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As long as it is Certified by qualcomm you should be fine.
Check this and if its mentioned there you can buy it:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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I recommend the aukey as well, I used it for my moto x 2nd gen and now my Nexus 6.
I got a Aukey one, and it's really great
In my experience and from others Anker makes good products might want to check into them. And a good charging cable is just as important.
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I have an Aukey and a Tronsmart. Both work well. Strangely enough, the quality of your USB cable also appears to play a legitimate role in whether Quick Charge2.0 is consistently recognized and used. In other words, high quality charger AND high quality cable is recommended!
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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Not at all... the phone is made to be compatible with QC. You can even use the QC charger with a phone that doesn't support it, what will happen is that the charger won't activate the QC and just charge at normal speed.
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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As long as it is Qualcomm 2.0 Certified it is supposed to work. Motorola's "turbo charge" is just a rebranded Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge.
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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Thanks for your reply then it must be the piece that I have used had some problem
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I use this one and it works perfectly for me. It has an LED that changes color depending on whether it is in normal charging or fast charging mode. Unfortunately, I don't think it is on your list.
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I am getting a kind of a weird experience this end. I use my Huawei quick charger of the mate 8, and it is only recognized by the Motorola Nexus 6 as a fast charger after I reboot the mobile then it starts charging at 9.15 V and 1.36 Amps. it does fast charge at this volt and amps at highs of 2240 mAps on Ampere application !!
I could not figure out another way to get the charger to recognize the Nexus 6 as a fast charging phone except by rebooting, and still working on it. in the meantime I have ordered a Choetech QC 3.0 and waiting for arrival. my question does this happen on your chargers or does it connect directly to 9V when connected to chargers like Aukey, Tronsmart, Anker etc. ??
Guys, is it normal that the phone get heated like an iron box when charging ? ( Well I noted that this happens only if my battery is below 50-60% ) Using Stock charger. Same happens (heating, but temperature is lower than before) even when I use One+ charger.
What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
I've never had a problem with any of my external batteries and any of my phones. I think if you stick with a decent brand, you'll be ok. Just don't use those crappy ones you get from gas stations or whatever.
What's really important is the usb C cable you gonna use, i've been using external batteries with my lg g5 without any issue so far because i keep using the og cable . Don't use any cheap usb C cable or it might kill your device.
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What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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But why you want to use external batteries? S8 has powerful battery in-build at this time so dont worry about that.
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I had purchased one of these a while ago for an older phone. You can just reuse the old ones- no need to buy a newer one.
Don't buy sketchy Type-Cs. If you are unsure, Anker is always reliable.
Does anybody already know any battery case that's already out?? Cheers
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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Thank your for the link, that will be handy for a few of my friends, I might have even read that a while back too(it looks familiar, but I can't recall). I understand the differences. I was trying to answer the OP's question at the time saying I wasn't sure what standard over USB-C the S8/S8+ was using.. so I didn't know which batteries would "fast charge" the S8/S8+ but they all should work to charge at some rate..
I'm set with batteries.. I already have that RAV (since I have a Pixel, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, HP Elite X3, Lumia 950, Huawei p9 for work which all use USB-C), and a few Anker and Aukey in various sizes/capacities that support 5V/2.4A and QC2/3 for my Samsung and apple phones/tablets.
As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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I know I read the sd835 supported USB-PD, but I thought the Exynos didn't. Either way, every video I've seen makes it seem like we're only getting QC 2.0.
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
Using the GS8+'s cable with my older Anker Powercore+ 10050 (which supports QC2.0 output), the S8+ fast charges. Using Choetech and Anker USB-A to USB-C cables and a Tronsmart 5-port multi-usb charger w/QC2.0 support, the GS8+ also reports fast charging.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable that came with my pixel, and the USB-C port on my RAVPower 20100mAh (link in an earlier post), or my Pixel's wall adapter, the GS8+ reports "charging". So Samsung is NOT supporting USB-C Power Delivery like is found on the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc.
If you want, I can provide Amazon links to all items as a reference.
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell? (The Ravppwer battery I have supports QC3 and I have Anker QC2 and QC3 wall chargers, and of course the Tronsmart QC2 wall charger and Anker PowrCore+ that supports QC2)
The wall plug included with the GS8+ is the same as the one with my GS7. Based on listed outputs, it's QC2. From what I understand QC3 goes down to 3.2v which isn't listed as output voltage. if the GS8/8+ supported QC3, I would have hoped they included a charger that supported it.
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Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell?.
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Quick Charge 3.0 is really more about efficiency and battery health then charging faster. Since Samsung fast charge is really just a subset of Quick Charge 2.0 anyway, it is possible for the phone to support 3.0 even with the same charger in the box.
In the end the only way we'll really know for sure is if Samsung ever confirms it or someone on this forum uses and in-line voltage meter while charging the phone to see if the voltage changes in 200 mv increments that quick charge 3.0 supports
i wanted to order this Auky car charger.. is it any good?
by the way im using the exynos version if its make a different
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qualcomm-3-...=item1a149455a4:g:c9sAAOSwnNBXTxFV&rmvSB=true
Any information on the new wireless chargers? Seeing as it's $90 vs last years model with can be had for much less, is there that much of a difference?
Buy one of these, I had these on my S7 Edge and Note 7 and they all charged wirelessly "fast".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Coils-Qi-...3109ca2&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=332061311531
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Buy one of these, I had these on my S7 Edge and Note 7 and they all charged wirelessly "fast".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Coils-Qi-...3109ca2&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=332061311531
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Damn those are cheap. I may have to grab a few of them! Thanks
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Damn those are cheap. I may have to grab a few of them! Thanks
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I say buy one first try it out, then if you are happy then buy more. They are shipping from California so it should be quick.
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Buy one of these, I had these on my S7 Edge and Note 7 and they all charged wirelessly "fast".
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How can these be so cheap?? Are they safe?
With the Nexus 6P, the charging cables are USB C on both ends. Are the samsung cables the same way? Are these wireless chargers USB C or micro usb?
Here are a few recommended on reddit.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H76NIAS/
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B01KJL4XNY/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015351V9U/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1CKKDI
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How can these be so cheap?? Are they safe?
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I have 3... Great so far. One at work, one at home, one with my gf. I think they have to compete with the samsung chargers that are flooding eBay.
This is the one I use myself on the S7 Edge, it does fast charging and uses a USB-C cable:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1CKKDI/
Its best advantage of galaxy s6 , s7 and and galaxy edge model have a wireless charger .
I was looking for a Qi "Docking Station" and found the Samsung Qi charging stand "open box" deal on Amazon and could not pass it up at $25 shipped. Only had it 24 hours and seems pretty decent on an S6 Edge Plus. Uses a standard micro-USB not the USB-C.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BMDQ9U8
When I got it the seal on the factory box was opened, but the unit appeared brand new, came with everything else sealed and even had all the protective wrap on it.
2 brand new white ones for $43 from samsung.com
How much slower do the 'fast' wireless chargers charge it vs the stock usb c cable charger? Last time i tried it was on my S5 and its so much slower than charging with a cable that it just wasnt worth the minor reduction in hassle of not having to plug in the cable, but if it was charging almost as fast then it might be worth it.
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How much slower do the 'fast' wireless chargers charge it vs the stock usb c cable charger? Last time i tried it was on my S5 and its so much slower than charging with a cable that it just wasnt worth the minor reduction in hassle of not having to plug in the cable, but if it was charging almost as fast then it might be worth it.
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I'm not sure S5 was even capable of fast wireless charging
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I'm not sure S5 was even capable of fast wireless charging
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Probably wasnt. But I havent seen any data on how fast the fast wireless charging is vs fast cable charging. I suspect the wireless is still much slower but if not then I will probably look to pick up a good charger for it.
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Probably wasnt. But I havent seen any data on how fast the fast wireless charging is vs fast cable charging. I suspect the wireless is still much slower but if not then I will probably look to pick up a good charger for it.
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Its pretty fast I tested it with my S6 and Note 5 last year. I dont have the exact numbers but its much faster than regular wireless charging. I don't recall if it was as fast as plugging it in but it's pretty close.
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Its pretty fast I tested it with my S6 and Note 5 last year. I dont have the exact numbers but its much faster than regular wireless charging. I don't recall if it was as fast as plugging it in but it's pretty close.
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Ok I found something on the S7 Edge saying 9% to 100% took just over 2 hours on fast wireless and 90 mins with cable. Not too bad but cable still over 33% faster. I think they said the s8 had slightly faster wireless charging than the s7 but didnt say by how much or provide any data on it.
In this review of the new wireless charger it shows that its plug is rated for both 5V at 2A or 9V at 1.67A, so it should support 15 watt charging, for QC 3.0 speeds. Wish they weren't $90, I need two of them...
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In this review of the new wireless charger it shows that its plug is rated for both 5V at 2A or 9V at 1.67A, so it should support 15 watt charging, for QC 3.0 speeds.
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15w input but around 10w output.
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15w input but around 10w output.
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This is in one of the FCC test reports:
b) Output power from each primary coil is less than 10 watts in DC 5 V condition and 15 watts in DC 9 V condition.
- Output power from each primary coil : 15 watts.
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So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
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So we have the official 30W charger for £25 at Google store, which I believe most people will be going for.
The pixel 6 requires PD 3.0 with PPS for full 30W fast charging. Since chargers will no longer be available in future phones and to avoid buying chargers again in the future when charging speeds increase I thought it might be best to go for a higher charging capacity USB-C PD PSS charger.
Fortunately Spigen have a 45 Watts PD 3.0 PPS charger on amazon with charging cable included.
Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Spigen ArcStation Pro USB C 45W Charger GaN PD 3.0 Fast Wall Charger for Galaxy S21 Ultra Plus S20 Note 20 Z Fold Flip 4 3 iPad Macbook Air (Cable included/USB-C PD PPS Charging) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
This should save folks from buying a charger in the future when charging speeds get increased once again.
The good thing is that this one is currently having a 25% off promotion until the end of this month, so turns out cheaper than the official Google fast charger!
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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Stupid question sorry, but if a charger shows fast charging, I guess that means it's fully compatible?
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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No its not. It will charge at normal speeds only. For example if you use a oneplus dash charger it won't charge your pixel at 30W.
A handshake for fast charging is made between your phone software and the charger and therefore they both need to adhere to a contract between the two. This is where we need standards so that chargers become compatible across all manufacturers.
Samsung has already moved to PD PPS standards.
Google is trying to push all manufacturers to use PD 3.0 PPS standard so that all become compatible.
Also note that the higher capacity charger you purchase the more future proof you are. For example even with a 45w charger you can't charge your pixel 6 more than 30w as that is what your phone software will allow. But at the same time it means you can use the same charger to fast charge one of your latest Samsung devices at full 45w potential via USB C PD PPS (and potentially future Pixels that allow even faster charging).
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
Also is anyone else finding there phone really hot when charging?
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So my phone showing rapid charging, is it compatible?
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Even if you plug your 18W charger into your phone it will say charging rapidly. It doesn't mean its charging at the full 30W capacity!
Any USB c charger will eventually charge your phone.
pemz82 said:
I have been looking at this one that looks to be compatible. It doesn't have the future proof of the 45w above as it is 30w - but it is relatively cheap.
Deal: UGREEN 30W USB C Charger Plug PD Type C Wall Charger Adapter Compatible with Macbook Pro 13'', Macbook Air, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro, iPad Air, Galaxy S21/Tab S6, Google Pixel 5 etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0819KTV96/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_DXS1Y2QFKMBJFC7DRF50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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That should do as it has the PD 3.0 standard with PPS. A word of note that you will see 30W chargers just with PD 3.0 but no PPS. These will charge slower than those with PPS but should still be more rapid than the previous gen 18W fast charger.
Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
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Ordered the Spigen charger thanks for the recommendation.
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Same, 2 for £58.48
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Same, 2 for £58.48
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Got mine before they removed the 25% discount
Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
I have had my eye on that spigen charger for a while now. I am actually a big fan of spigen. I have had every pixel and I have used a spigen case for each one.
I actually don't like using those high amp chargers. I only use them when i am in a pinch like i forgot to charge my phone and i gotta go. I use a chargie with a 1amp usb port on my power strip. And i only charge to 80 percent. Again if i am in a pinch or if i know i will be gone from a charger for more than 10 hours i will charge to 100 but that rarely happens. My pixel 4xl used to last all day plus and I had it for 2 years and when i traded it in the battery was still at 98 percent health.
I have a question though since we are talking about chargers. I have a lenovo chromebook that uses a 45w usb c charger. can i use that on my pixel 6? I have the base model 6 not the pro. Or will that damage it? I would assume that it would be ok but just want a second opinion.
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Just ordered the Spigen 25% discount £22 bargain thanks for heads up
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On to Amazon now!
If i ordered today i would be paying around £6 less for two!
This charger oozes quality. It is slightly smaller than the pixel 5 18w charger, comes with a higher quality braided cable, in all much better value than the Google 30w charger.
Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
If you're not testing your charger with a usb C meter of some sort, you're almost certainly not getting 30W.
These pixels appear to have an apple style restriction on chargers. Something many people are missing is that not all PPS chargers are created equally. Google specifies 21v whereas most of the pps chargers on the market top out at 11v.
I've tried 3 different 65W 11v PPS chargers and they all top out at 18-20W.
I then specifically bought a 21v capable charger and still it tops out at 18-20W.
I'm extremely disappointed Google decided to take this anti consumer approach. The chargers I have tried are by all means technologically superior to Google's charger in every way and yet this arbitrary restriction means I'm forced to buy Google's if I want 30W charging.
I can include links/photos/videos if anyone is curious.
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Indicates it's charging rapidly so hopefully getting full 30w
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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I can almost guarantee it's not. It says charging rapidly for anything above 7.5W.
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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The Spigen one which complies with the relevant standards?
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"Up to 45W(5.0V=3.0A, 9.0V=3.0A, 15.0V=3.0A, 20.0V=2.25A, 3.3V-11.0V=3.5A, 3.3V-16.0V=3.0A)"
^ Taken from the amazon page for the Spigen charger.
No support for 21V so no 30W fast charging. Even if it did support 21V, I doubt it would go over 18-20W, based on my findings.
Of course it's ridiculous because even with "only" 20V, the charger can push 2.25A which is more than enough for 30W charging. I don't understand the point of PPS if the voltage/current combinations are not dynamic. The implementation of PPS so far seems to make a mockery of the intended purpose of the standard.