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Hi guys!
My first post ever here so please forgive the noobiness and the perhaps many q's..
A friend is in the US & can hopefully bring me this monster of a phone to Germany next week; I just called an AT&T shop though and the (very helpful I have to admit) rep said that they will not be selling them unlocked and cannot unlock them, expected I guess. Now a couple of q's:
- Will it first of all function in Europe?
- How difficult is it going to be to remove the sim lock so I can use my German o2 sim card in it?
- I suppose it will have loads of AT&T and Motorola software on it but how intrusive are they at the end of the day, can't you install LauncherPro for example?
I currently have an unrooted Nexus One & was just about to order the Nexus S but the Atrix is just too good to not buy.
Thanks for all help you guys provide through the forums!!
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
edgeicator said:
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
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Many thanks!
Vangelis13 said:
Many thanks!
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Please visit this thread i made yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11496757
i'm making a list of various unlocking sites , to see which ones can sell us the codes.
Any contributions are welcome
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
mrabcx said:
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
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From Wikipedia:
Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia
In Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia most of the providers use 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands. GSM-900 is most widely used. Fewer operators use DCS-1800 and GSM-1800. A dual-band 900/1800 phone is required to be compatible with almost all operators. At least the GSM-900 band must be supported in order to be compatible with many operators.
Hi all,
I was wondering if the Honor 5X was capable of having additional LTE bands enabled, specifically bands 3 and 8? According to GSM Arena, the non-US versions of this phone support that band. I've seen that some other phones, such as the old Nexus could have additional bands added.
I'm a newbie to phone hardware, so apologies if this is a dumb question.
I'd like to know the answer to this question too. I found this thread on the very same topic, but for the Nexus 5. It serves as a good place to gather relevant info, and learn about the problem.
What I've gathered so far is that a phone needs a couple pieces of hardware (Radio Frequency Front End components Filters and Power Amplifier Module) to enable a particular LTE band. We can find this information if we have a service manual. Do you know if we have one available for KIW-L24?
If the hardware is available, we may be able to enable it by editing an Android OS system file (not exactly sure yet).
If that doesn't work, we'll have to edit the qualcomm radio firmware, enable the bands, and flash it back to the device. I think we'll need to find some leaked software from qualcomm to do this (QRCT-TOOLS-NV Manager or something)
I have this same problem. but Flashing it with another region firmware say Indian version of honor 5x that has band 3 and 8 will it work? I learnt the American version has it but locked.
I support this question too. I would be very grateful with the one capable of answering it. If the hardware in different versions of the phone is exactly the same, then one should be able to, at least, enable all the bands supported by those different versions.
Did any of you have a solution for this?
I am also looking for having/unlocking additonal bands on the device.
Thank you!
ivissani said:
I support this question too. I would be very grateful with the one capable of answering it. If the hardware in different versions of the phone is exactly the same, then one should be able to, at least, enable all the bands supported by those different versions.
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cogbuagu said:
I have this same problem. but Flashing it with another region firmware say Indian version of honor 5x that has band 3 and 8 will it work? I learnt the American version has it but locked.
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JT-on said:
I'd like to know the answer to this question too. I found this thread on the very same topic, but for the Nexus 5. It serves as a good place to gather relevant info, and learn about the problem.
What I've gathered so far is that a phone needs a couple pieces of hardware (Radio Frequency Front End components Filters and Power Amplifier Module) to enable a particular LTE band. We can find this information if we have a service manual. Do you know if we have one available for KIW-L24?
If the hardware is available, we may be able to enable it by editing an Android OS system file (not exactly sure yet).
If that doesn't work, we'll have to edit the qualcomm radio firmware, enable the bands, and flash it back to the device. I think we'll need to find some leaked software from qualcomm to do this (QRCT-TOOLS-NV Manager or something)
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donpaisa said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if the Honor 5X was capable of having additional LTE bands enabled, specifically bands 3 and 8? According to GSM Arena, the non-US versions of this phone support that band. I've seen that some other phones, such as the old Nexus could have additional bands added.
I'm a newbie to phone hardware, so apologies if this is a dumb question.
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legendnexus said:
Did any of you have a solution for this?
I am also looking for having/unlocking additonal bands on the device.
Thank you!
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As of my knowledge, Honor 5x doesn't have capability to support additional bands from the hardware perspective. Thats why each region has each build with different model number supporting their respective region bands.
vsriram92 said:
As of my knowledge, Honor 5x doesn't have capability to support additional bands from the hardware perspective. Thats why each region has each build with different model number supporting their respective region bands.
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Non sense , when you said that it's like saying huawei built each honor 5x with different hardware which is not true only the Kiw-AL10 is different, the LTE bands are just locked on each device.
I think you will need some huawei honor support to know at least which hardware antenna is present in your kiw_l24.
I guess with google you can not find the hardware layout of honor 5x or which component is installed.
There are two cases:
1/ hardware antenna for a specific band is present but not used (usecase: for certain country, Constructor is validating only the corresponding bands)
--> you can here flash a firmware from another country to be able to use these bands
2/hardware antenna for a specific band is not present
--> you can do nothing
You can try to flash firmware from other country (l22 formware which support band 3 and 8) but i guess it might brick your phone.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GNNe9/huawei-honor-5x-lte-dual-sim-kiw-l24
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AZMpV/huawei-honor-5x-td-lte-kiw-l22
The same issue
Any news about how to enable the frequencies in the model KIW-l24?
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
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The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
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This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Almighty1 said:
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Sent from my G8142
murtaza02 said:
Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
murtaza02 said:
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
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Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here.
I had a moto e4 plus but I'm ditching it as I've bought a redmi 5 plus 4 /64 (I believe) from eglobal.
The terrible thing is that I don't know which carrier it works on. I didn't do much research. I just read that it was really good for the money so I bought it impulsively.
It's all my fault, I know.
Can anyone be so kind as to tell me what carrier it'll work on? I tried to do it myself but all the different bands and networks and frequencies confused me.
I'm in the USA in Texas, if that helps any.
Thank you in advance.
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All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
Thunderdr said:
All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
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There is a suggestion why don't you borrow sim card from any of your friend and check either it will work or not.
Or you may go to service center and try different carriers.
Redmi 5 Plus supports almost all kind of popular carriers I am from Pakistan and have friends of almost all countries and they use use redmi 5 plus with carriers available at their country.
Regards
The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The global version should work on most popular carriers. I can't say for the US but for the PH, Smart and Globe (carrier duopoly) work perfectly fine and support voLTE
Hey guys when i go to Sony website and look up bootloader unlock instructions. it says the US variant is locked by verizon.
this is the version i have. Does that mean i cannot unlock bootloader? do i need to return my phone and the global version? The guides posted on here don't seem to mention the model number as if it matters.
Unlock Bootloader - Open Devices - Sony Developer World
developer.sony.com
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
ze7zez said:
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
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Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
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Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
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It's the same reason I returned US version and bought international version ct72 . So make sure about bands supports for 71 it has 66 which is TMobile and band 41 which i get some good speed depending on the location I'm in.
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
2015Ducatimulti said:
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
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Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
raven213 said:
Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
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my exact thoughts, 1600.00, no thanks, buy the CT72 and save some money, only thing is you don`t get the USA warranty when you buy the Non-US version, and some missing 5G band`s and the missing MMWave bands
As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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Flashing US ROM on ct72 will give you signal issues. So far i haven't found a way to get signal working on it.
That might make sense since the RF hardware is different between them and hence the software might not work as expected
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
Sakete said:
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
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Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
tonysunshine said:
Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
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Mine is still going fine on Att elite
David.k20z1 said:
Mine is still going fine on Att elite
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XQ-CT72 No go on Cricket. Data works fine but no calls.