Hello everyone i have made some research last day and start to thinking of upgrade the battery from 4500 mAh to 5000 mAh, they look quite similar on pictures , i don't find yet any detail in size. If it will be possible then I will lost wireless charging and reverse charging but will get approx.11% battery capacity+. I thinking that this battery in mix 4 is very law quality barely get 4 hours with dual sim, 60 hz and so on. Buy phone to just turn off ll it's features just to get battery life stable is not good. I am on xiaomi.eu 14...
Lost 40% in big sunny day just in 15 minutes and falling from less then 20 to 1 with the blink of an eye.
So is anyone have idea where can foumd more details about the size of battery let me know or maybe someone think bout it before.
I have other Xiaomi 12 T Pro, Poco f 2 pro, and other with global and non of the have similar issue with drain of battery like mix 4.
Actually the pics shows 11 T Pro with the 4860 mAh with wireless charging , but the option is also 12 T Pro with 5000 mAh without
Quick updated i find info that this phone was planned to be lunched with BM58 5000mAh ,120 W, no wireless. Instead was lunched with 4500 mAh wireless.
Do BM58 should be good to go ,questions is how this 500mAh extra will worki???
Hello, I already did the test of putting the 5000mah one. The phone simply does not turn on, I don't know if it is because it is not compatible or because it does not have a charge. If you put it to charge, the battery icon appears but no current passes since I measured it with a USB meter
You mean the BM 58?
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¿Te refieres al BM 58?
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Yes
Ok thanks for info,
How's your current battery capacity? I've been using my Mix 4 since September 2021 and if Accubattery and the debug log are to be believed, my battery deterioration has been brutal.
Accubattery: Estimated 2395 mAh
Debug log:
Statistics since last charge:
System starts: 0, currently on battery: true
Estimated battery capacity: 1962 mAh
Last learned battery capacity: 1978 mAh
Min learned battery capacity: 1978 mAh
Max learned battery capacity: 1982 mAh
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I not use the app anymore so don't know real capacity.
those types of applications have problems with dual cell batteries, they are only half as big. For example, the ampere app detects double the voltage and that is impossible because otherwise the motherboard would burn
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Hey guys, so the battery that came with my G1 (3.7v 1150mAh 4.25Whr) just started randomly shutting off at %50 power, %30 power, basically anytime it felt like going dead and this was after charging it all night. So my buddy grabbed me one from radio shack where he works that is rated at (3.7v 1050mAh 3.9Whr). Now if i am understanding the fact that the HIGHER the "mAh" the better that would mean that this battery is worse than the stock one?? Also one MORE question.. im using Cyanogen 5.0.8 ... WHEN should i wipe the battery stats ?? THANKS in advance for answering my 2 questions
< BuMp > ... anyone ? please? lol
i just bought a G1 with standard used battery, and its not lasting. as soon as i use 3g or wifi battery falls by 10% in 5mins.
i just ordered a new one off ebay 2400mah so by rights that should last day or 2 wwith moderate use? i hope lol
as i understand i think its when the battery is fully charged then wipe the battery status.
i tried both empty then wipe, full then wipe, and hasnt really made any difference.
using juicedefender and using setcpu as made alot of difference while phone is sleeping tho. which helps a lot
based off of what you have said, a 1050 mah battery would do you a lot better than a 1150 mah battery that is faulty. On another note, I just bought 2 1400 mAh batteries off of Amazon and they last me all day running Froyo using everything the phone has to offer. Also check to see if your current battery is swollen...
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based off of what you have said, a 1050 mah battery would do you a lot better than a 1150 mah battery that is faulty. On another note, I just bought 2 1400 mAh batteries off of Amazon and they last me all day running Froyo using everything the phone has to offer. Also check to see if your current battery is swollen...
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i threw the old one away... this new one seems to last the day...thanks for the response. Im gonna just wait till Christmas time and see what i phone i want to use my upgrade on...time 2 say goodbye G1 lol
2850mah from ebay, and slow charging it @ 350mah.
Mmmm. Slow charging gives you much more performance from your battery than a regular fast 1A charger.
I bought a yoobao battery that is rated at 2400 mah, works well with heavy wifi and gps usage all throughout the day. Lasts for 24 hours or more, but my g1 looks like a brick
Ok, here we go. I tested three batteries for X10 mini pro. Testing conditions were real-time/normal use (that´s all we are interested in, and not some crazy testing programs) which means several calls, some mp3 listening (half an hour max), some wi-fi usage and browsing. GPS and background data transmission were always on. all tests were done at the same location (i.e. phone didn´t have to look for cells) with good 3,5G coverage. 00:to 9:00 phone was idle.
Time Ericsson Jin Dian Jinpintong
00:00 100% 100% 100%
09:00 60% 60% 65%
12:00 55% 52% 54%
15:00 28% 20% 44%
18:00 17% 16% 22%
21:00 dead at 19:30 dead at 19:00 8% (dead at 21:30)
As you can see the behaviour of the batteries is the same in the first 12 hours (until 50% discharge), the differences show up later.
I have attached a jpg file with battery pictures so that they can be easily identified. BST-38 was marked as 970mAh, Jin Dian 1420mAh and JPT as 1800mAh.
Tomorrow I will test the winner (JPT) switching the phone to GPRS only (no 3G)
thanks
would please give us a link to the Jinpintong battery please
alhout said:
would please give us a link to the Jinpintong battery please
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It is somewhere on ebay. Make a search on BST-38, then start looking at the pictures and compare with the one I posted. It is usually sold as "business battery". By the way the 1800 mAh written on it is bull**** as well, because theoretically it should give us at least 50% time increase, and as a result we get barely 2-3 hours extra.
By the way, can someone who owns a DEJI battery repeat my test, so that we will haveit for comparison?
cannot find Jinpintong battery on ebay...tried ebay.com and even hong kong ebay...nothing...
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cannot find Jinpintong battery on ebay...tried ebay.com and even hong kong ebay...nothing...
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I bought it from this guy http://myworld.ebay.com/efoodlifecn/ he erroneously had them listed as 1650 mAh batteries, and currently doesn´t have any BST-38 compatible ones listed, but write him and ask about it. Since he sells a lot of batteries (the yellowish ones) from the same JPY (jinpintong) factory, he must be their dealer.
how many charge cycles have the batteries gone through before testing?
I have the Jin Dian battery and haven't noticed much if any improvement over the stock battery
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how many charge cycles have the batteries gone through before testing?
I have the Jin Dian battery and haven't noticed much if any improvement over the stock battery
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That is exactly what my test shows. Jin Dian gives no improvement at all, and Jinpintong gives a marginal improvement of 2 hours.
The quantity of cycles doesn´t matter, as Li-Ion batteries have no memory effect, but just for information, all of them went through at least 10 cycles, before the test.
Nice comparison, i wonder if i can use these for the X10 Mini
No, you can't.
I´ve ordered a DEJI battery from DinoDirect, the one that everyone is praising, and as soon as it arrives, will repeat the same test for it.
are this tests made by modifiyng build prop battery info?
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are this tests made by modifiyng build prop battery info?
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Modifying build.prop battery info makes no difference on physical battery capacity. But if you doubt it, I can test DEJI battery (when it arrives) both with and without modifying.
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Modifying build.prop battery info makes no difference on physical battery capacity. But if you doubt it, I can test DEJI battery (when it arrives) both with and without modifying.
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yes i do think so but maybe the system have some sort of overcharging protection and limits battery performance...
good testing
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yes i do think so but maybe the system have some sort of overcharging protection and limits battery performance...
good testing
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Overcharging protection is built into the battery itself.
"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
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"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
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All questions to Sony Ericsson. Why do you think everyone complains about battery time?
hi i just recently bought this wonderful phone call x10 mini pro and i was wondering to buy a battery to extend the battery life and i happen to stumble upon this battery call gold BST-38 its 1930 mAH and it cost around £9.75.It's a japan quality product but can only find in a uk store weird product or ebay.Can anyone test and tell me is this good or bad.TY(sorry for not being able to post the link cause i'm new)
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hi i just recently bought this wonderful phone call x10 mini pro and i was wondering to buy a battery to extend the battery life and i happen to stumble upon this battery call gold BST-38 its 1930 mAH and it cost around £9.75.It's a japan quality product but can only find in a uk store weird product or ebay.Can anyone test and tell me is this good or bad.TY(sorry for not being able to post the link cause i'm new)
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Why don´t you buy it and test it for us? 9 quid is not a lot of money.
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"00:to 9:00 phone was idle." and have -40%?!
0:00 - 100%
9:00 - 60%
It is strange.
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In my case when my battery going down fast, it's due to an application.
Sometimes I regret my P1i with 5 days of autonomy with a 5 years stock battery...
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In my case when my battery going down fast, it's due to an application.
Sometimes I regret my P1i with 5 days of autonomy with a 5 years stock battery...
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I don´t think it´s an application. If I enter airplane mode (all applications still running) - I lose 5% for the time I lose 45% with transmission enabled. We have excellent 3,5G coverage, so no issue with signal loss or level.
It is just badly managed battery. When I was on win 6.5 it lasted MUCH longer. Btw. other Android phones suffer from the same - just check out the other forums - everyone complains about the same ****.
Looking to buy a high capacity battery for my x10 mini pro.
Maybe 1500-2500 mah?
I know there are alot of duds out there...
I'm looking at these right now:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-BST-38-B...otn=15&po=LCA&ps=63&clkid=7085760772320994471
http://www.dinodirect.com/sony-ericsson-s500-business-battery-1500mah-deji.html?cur=EUR
Any links/advice would be great!
All i'm going to say is, Non sony-ericsson battery may cause damage to your device, use it carefully and give us a feedback if it works, or don't.
I bough one for my old Nokia 8310 and it worked perfectly.
I bought the DEJI BST-38 from dinodirect, it comes in a very posh box but it doesnt last any longer than the stock battery.
Ok, well I bought two batteries online and I'm waiting for them to arrive in the coming days...
I don't have the details of each at hand but I hope to test them for you when I get them.
battery info
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Ok, well I bought two batteries online and I'm waiting for them to arrive in the coming days...
I don't have the details of each at hand but I hope to test them for you when I get them.
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I'd be interested in your results. I just got my x10 mini pro and have already noticed that the battery doesn't last long. Same as my old Nokia n95 and before that a SE p800... eventually both these phones got decent higher power batteries available... I'll wait till I get a few reports. Maybe someone could build a thicker back case and a bigger battery?
What we must know is : is it a lithium-ion or lithium-polymer battery
Because, Li-Ion last longer, but they get warm quickly
Li-Polymer are quite the same, but they stay cold.
Oh... The battery performance are quite the same between those two
the best phone ever. 6 days stand by time. i charge it once a week with gold bst-38 battery of 1920mah which i bought from ebay. also i upgraded it to froyo 2.2 from xda developers and now this beauty is flying.
best phone ever.
[quoted from a person who has used the gold bst battery on gsmarena]
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini-reviews-3125p13.php
purchasing a 2430mah version here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-2430MAH-BST-38-BATTERY-SONY-ERICSSON-C510-C901-/190548605976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c5d94fc18#ht_2218wt_1139
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royalbloodvi said:
the best phone ever. 6 days stand by time. i charge it once a week with gold bst-38 battery of 1920mah which i bought from ebay. also i upgraded it to froyo 2.2 from xda developers and now this beauty is flying.
best phone ever.
[quoted from a person who has used the gold bst battery on gsmarena]
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini-reviews-3125p13.php
purchasing a 2430mah version here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-2430MAH-...ltDomain_3&hash=item2c5d94fc18#ht_2218wt_1139
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Hmmm last time I checked there was nothing on ebay for mini/pro battery!
Can u give all the statistics of the battery?
how could a battery of the same size provide almost three times the capacity of the stock one? maybe it's because it uses the new Li-bull**** technology
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Hmmm last time I checked there was nothing on ebay for mini/pro battery!
Can u give all the statistics of the battery?
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Sure, here it is:
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Utra-high capacity battery
Maximises time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No memory effect
Uses Li-poly technology
Capacity: 2430mAh
Its not your li-ion battery crap that overheats and causes the mini to reboot, its li-poly.
With reports of 1930mh lasting for 6 days with one charge, im guessing 2430mah could last 8 - 10 days =)
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Sure, here it is:
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Utra-high capacity battery
Maximises time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No memory effect
Uses Li-poly technology
Capacity: 2430mAh
Its not your li-ion battery crap that overheats and causes the mini to reboot, its li-poly.
With reports of 1930mh lasting for 6 days with one charge, im guessing 2430mah could last 8 - 10 days =)
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Sounds good! Please test it and let us now about the feedback as I really want a more powerful and long-lasting battery too =D
Hey please include a screenshot, not all of us have the same phone usage as you
XDA ♥
does it work for mini or just for mini pro?
I just googled a little about gold batteries from Japan. samsunggalaxysforums.com/archive/index.php/t-3856.html?
found a thread where samsung galaxy user tried gold battery and it lasted much more than stock. If i remember in a heavy usage user managed to get abou 3 hours with stock and more than 5 hours with gold battery. It seems that original batteries cost about 20 usd for piece.
I will try to buy one and test it because the one of my mini pro doesn't last more thant 4 hours with heavy use (3g umts 24/7 online, push for twitter, gmail, listening to music in streaming. or watching videos from the sd. and the battery in my phone is of 970 mAh Li-ion and it overheat fast .w.
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I will try to buy one and test it because the one of my mini pro doesn't last more thant 4 hours with heavy use (3g umts 24/7 online, push for twitter, gmail, listening to music in streaming. or watching videos from the sd. and the battery in my phone is of 970 mAh Li-ion and it overheat fast .w.
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Wow 4 hours thats bad!
Then again mine is probably that bad too...the heaviest I use it is having 3G/wifi on and chatting on facebook or whatsapp, perhaps whilst listening to music.
And yes, the battery drops at something like 1% every 3 minutes or so...its ridiculous!
Which is why I hardly ever use it heavily whilst im away from home - I'm scared it'll go flat while I'm out!
I'm seriously considering getting an Iphone as my next phone now, because android phones in general do not last a normal day under heavy use...whilst my friends with their Iphone 4s constantly have 3G on, with their large screen on nearly full brightness, constantly checking facebook and chatting over the internet...yet their batteries last the day quite easily....
if you will buy from ebay than look there cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200532787453&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3017wt_1251&clk_rvr_id=248408890642
Guy from samsung forum has battery from digi.tech seller and looks like that battery really works much better than OEM.
Just bought the 2430 mHa battery on eBay,. I hope to get it within a week.
I'll give you a feedback report as soon as I get the new battery. Bye
gmlai said:
Just bought the 2430 mHa battery on eBay,. I hope to get it within a week.
I'll give you a feedback report as soon as I get the new battery. Bye
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Did you got your battery already?
Hi guys! My Gold 2430 mHa battery arrived about a week ago. I needed some tests before I could give my opinion.
I expected more than a 100% improvement from this battery compared to the 950 mHa standard battery, the facts say that I can get only from 30 to 60% improvement. At the evening, whereas I had 10-20% of charge, now I still have 30-40%.
I think it's possible that the phone stop charging too soon, when it get to a given level of charge, so I ordered an external charger (I hope it will arrive soon) to make more tests.
I am not sure, but it seems that the new battery full charges faster than the old one.
A notice: the battery is a bit longer than the stock one. I had to slice a little of plastic with a knife (less than a millimetre) to let it fit into the phone.
Fellow Note 8 users, I recently got to replace my 1.5 yr old battery with a new bigger capacity one. 3500mah from Polarcell... Once I get a few charge cycles going with this one I'll post results!
I had 255 charge cycles on the old one and fg_asoc was 92, fullcapnom 2890.
Evidently as I'm a very curious person, I had to test the capacity of the old battery with a high tech hobby charger/discharger from Junsi, the 4010 DUO. As it stands out, fully charging the battery to 4.4V and then doing a deep discharge to 3V netted me 3273mAh. Be aware that this is a way deeper charge/discharge cycle than the phone would ever do. In order to prolong lifespan, Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec, it remains to be seen. I'll conduct more tests, and keep everybody posted.
Ask away any question the you may have and don't be bummed out it your Galaxy battery is reporting lower capacity from the start. It may not be the case.
Cheers,
Andrei.
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Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec,
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I've notice DJI doing the same thing with my Phantom 3 drone batteries whenever I use a hobby-grade charger connected directly to the terminals of the battery itself. I say this is a good design by Samsung if it is as you are suggesting.
Good thinking, I have a ph3 battery lying around wi5h no more than 50 cycles on it. I could measure that too!
You need to remember that your Phantom 3 batteries have a nominal 4.35V per cell as opposed to the usual 4.2, so you would need to factor this in to your hobby grade charger. I have a Hyperion EOS.... model. I've used this to "revive" several phone and laptop cells in the past (once the cell isn't internally damaged).
I don't think one needs to be concerned about fg_asoc or fg_fullcapnom once there isn't too much deep discharging of the cells.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Sometimes I undercharge my ph3 batteries by 0.05v to make them last longer. The 4010 duo is one hell of a charger and I love it!
Back to the note 8 battery, I'm getting spectacular battery life with the new bigger cell and the One UI update. Currently at 60% remaining with 24h of use and 3h of SOT. Stellar!
Cheers!
Just a question, did they reseal the back cover for waterproofing after?
There's no they, I did it myself. Bought some original Tesa double sided tape from ifixit.com and it worked great.
AccuBattery detects the X1M3 battery as 4380 mAh which contradicts official literature. However, that's not to say it's incorrect. Is it truly 4500 mAh? Not been able to find a teardown yet, unsurprisingly.
Consider Accubattery's measurement an estimate. I find it's history of SOT useful for spotting excessive battery usage as I know what it should be using per hour SOT as well as at rest
3C battery monitor reports the same. (Sony XQ-BC52)
This is a helpful start to your question: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-battery-capacity-and-rated-capacity
What is the difference between typical capacity and rated capacity in batteries?
Answer (1 of 4): Rated capacity is what the battery can store and deliver according to the manufacturer. Using any form of lead-acid battery and utilising its full rated capacity by daily cycling it 100%,will result in a speedy destruction thereof. In practice, it is recommended that lead-acid ba...
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This is a helpful start to your question: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-battery-capacity-and-rated-capacity
What is the difference between typical capacity and rated capacity in batteries?
Answer (1 of 4): Rated capacity is what the battery can store and deliver according to the manufacturer. Using any form of lead-acid battery and utilising its full rated capacity by daily cycling it 100%,will result in a speedy destruction thereof. In practice, it is recommended that lead-acid ba...
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This answers nothing. 3C battery monitor reads the data from the battery profile set by the manufacturer. So sony states that the xperia 1 III has an 4500mAh battery, but the profile reports 4380mAh. Thats quite a difference.
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This answers nothing. 3C battery monitor reads the data from the battery profile set by the manufacturer. So sony states that the xperia 1 III has an 4500mAh battery, but the profile reports 4380mAh. Thats quite a difference.
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Many manufacture do this, they round the figure, so sony is still correct.